I loved this series. I fell in love with Rick Leonardi's art. I loved the imagination on display. I loved Miguel O'Hara's backstory. Good stuff. Ravage 2099, not good. Punisher 2099 ok.
Same for me, I loved the first 10 issues of Spidey 2099. But I can see the guys’ point: as a first issue, not very satisfying. Peter David wanted Miguel to be the opposite of Peter Parker, and that made him unlikable in this first issue. He became more heroic later. My favorite issue is where Miguel’s mom turns out to be a huge fan of Spider-Man 2099; he tells her his secret identity, and she refused to believe it was true.
Love Rick Leonardi! His art was great on X-men fill in issues and the Daredevil issue where Wolverine is hunting Bushwacker. I always felt he was manga influenced!
It's interesting to look at Spider-man 2099 in comparison to Batman Beyond, which does the same thing, but a zillion times better. To Ed's point, Batman Beyond gives you a lot more of an investment in the story by having the elderly Bruce Wayne as a bridge to the original continuity.
Batman Beyond is just Spider-Man in the future. All the bad guys are just Spidey bad guys. Timm knew what he was doing, take Ditko Spider-Man and just run with it.
Man I loved this book when I was a kid! One of my favorite memories of reading comics is when I read this issue. Just looking at the first page still fills me with wonder. I remember reading this in the car waiting for my mom getting her hair done, and just not believing what I was seeing. Great video thanks for the memories!
Rick Leonardi was inked by Kent Williams in Uncanny Xmen 252 which is a real weird one I’d love to see under the microscope. A Leonardi Daredevil that I really liked was 277.
Rick Leonardi was one of the all time great Spider-man artists. I loved the way he drew Spidey’s eyes in Spider-man #17. His knee and shin anatomy was so good and his poses were so dynamic
The future conceit for this future PAD was establishing was tributing Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and Miguel's transformation is right out of Cronenberg's BrundleFly. Being aware of this, the issue was a much better read going in.
Looking at Spidey's feet on the cover reminds me of when I started Life Drawing Classes in '92. While looking at my art at the end of the first class, the teacher made me right away, "You're a comic book artist, aren't you?". Puzzled, I asked, "How can you tell?". He nodded at my gesture drawing, "Your feet!...Draw what you see!"
I forgot up until very recently just how big Marvel wanted the 2099 stuff to be. They were giving it a huge push across all media. I only remembered because recently I dug out all my trading cards from the 90s and ‘95 Flair Marvel Annual had a HEAVY 2099 presence, even in the bonus chase cards. You’d expect Wolverine or Hulk, but instead you’d get Punisher 2099. Maybe it’s my memory, but 2099 didn’t land as well as they hoped because Age of Apocalypse was around the same time and was much more interesting for people? I was young so I may not have the greatest memory. Either way, it seemed like a cool experiment that never got its true peak.
Watching some of the "making of" videos of Across The SpiderVerse, how Rick Leonardi along with Brian Stelfreeze and many other artists are brought in to teach animators how to draw and make the marks they make- all in the service of celebrating the original artists. Same w Mahfood and Sienkiewicz and Picelli, it would be really interesting to hear Kayfabe's take on the films, especially since Miles Morales is a recent Marvel addition and pretty separate from any of the Lee/ Kirby/ Ditko/ Image artist era that is generally focused on.
The Kayfabe effect is real! I ordered a copy of yesterday’s L.B. Cole book right after yesterday’s video dropped for $45 can on Amazon, I went back to buy it as a gift today but it’s now 87!
Loved this video. Answered many questions for me. You guys often speak of “one and done” comics and I’ve been wondering exactly what you mean. You described some things here, which was great, but can you guys do more coverage of one and done comics and comics that like you say “give a complete episode”? Thanks Cartoonist Kayfabe and keep killing it!!!
Wow cool to see this here. This was my first comic book. Story is a mess but I would spend hours coping those figures. I recall getting it at a CVS. I never went to comic shops back then so I do think that memory is correct but nostaligic might of set in. I still have it though and the issues that followed it. There wasn't much I rember from the stories but I loved those ink lines. The Punisher 2099 might be a good one to look into if your intrested in doing more videos on this 2099 line. Enjoy the videos!
I found one of the best channels on UA-cam. Thank you for the Moebius stuff guys. I have 2 suggestions for the future. I think you would enjoy talking about Lone Sloane -Salammbo (Our man Druillet) and Henriette Valium - The Palace of Champions. It’s all gone a bit French sorry.
I remember being so excited to read this when it came out, but gave up after issue one due to the lack of Spider-Man in the book. I only kept it for the metallic red cover.
This takes me back. From the 2099 titles, I think Doom was the only one I got into. I did get a few of several of the others but didn't really like them too much.
I loved all of Marvel's alt world books - 2099, MC2, New Universe, WhatIf, Exiles, Mutant X....I think Marvel's best works are where they give their writers free reign and these books are wild. Everything else they make feels tame to me.
I bought into one of those #1 issue bundles too, wound up with Spidey, X-Men, Doom and Punisher, and against all odds and my current taste in comics, somehow the Punisher one ended up holding up the best. Just drops you right into the action, Punisher beats the shit out of a dude with a spiked baton in the first few pages, he fries a dude inside a holding cell with a microwave gun, that one was it. Jimmy got it right, it's such a simple concept to bring these characters to a dystopian future, you dont need the corporate raider neuromancer bullshit frontloaded in issue one, just give us a cool future Spider Man, give us the action to hook us in, and build the world in upcoming issues.
I remember having this comic as a kid but it came packaged in the action figure of spider man 2099 from Toy Biz. The comic had a white border instead of the red chrome. That white border version of the comic is the one that’s burned in my memory and the red border one looks weird to me lol. Shoulda kept that action figure cause a sealed one is going for 300-400 bucks right now.
I'd love to see you all hop in to ALL the 2099 series. I feel like they were such a cool concept, and the gimmick covers actually looked great. But ultimately non of the titles really delivered on the premise. I feel like that's mostly due to almost universally unlikable characters. I still feel compelled by these titles though.
I loved this series. I fell in love with Rick Leonardi's art. I loved the imagination on display. I loved Miguel O'Hara's backstory. Good stuff. Ravage 2099, not good. Punisher 2099 ok.
I loved Punisher 2099 as a kid. It was so over the top. It was kind of an intro to edgier comics for me. It probably doesn't hold up :).
Same for me, I loved the first 10 issues of Spidey 2099. But I can see the guys’ point: as a first issue, not very satisfying. Peter David wanted Miguel to be the opposite of Peter Parker, and that made him unlikable in this first issue. He became more heroic later. My favorite issue is where Miguel’s mom turns out to be a huge fan of Spider-Man 2099; he tells her his secret identity, and she refused to believe it was true.
The first two years of Marvel 2099 are really great. Can you do a video of Ghost Rider 2099? Bachalo was killing it.
I picked up Hulk Grand Design and Trigger Warnings #1 and #2 and loved them! Thanks for the awesome videos and comics, guys. Keep up the great work!
Love Rick Leonardi! His art was great on X-men fill in issues and the Daredevil issue where Wolverine is hunting Bushwacker. I always felt he was manga influenced!
Never thought I’d catch a “They Call Her One Eye” reference in a Spider-Man 2099 review. I love this channel.
It's interesting to look at Spider-man 2099 in comparison to Batman Beyond, which does the same thing, but a zillion times better. To Ed's point, Batman Beyond gives you a lot more of an investment in the story by having the elderly Bruce Wayne as a bridge to the original continuity.
They went that route in the Spider Girl series. I believe Peter was crippled or something.
Batman Beyond is just Spider-Man in the future. All the bad guys are just Spidey bad guys. Timm knew what he was doing, take Ditko Spider-Man and just run with it.
I first came across Rick Leonardi’s work in The Amazing Spider-Man.They introduced The Rose in the issues he did.I think it was in 1984.
Bachalo’s ghost rider 2099. Really liked it
Man I loved this book when I was a kid! One of my favorite memories of reading comics is when I read this issue. Just looking at the first page still fills me with wonder. I remember reading this in the car waiting for my mom getting her hair done, and just not believing what I was seeing. Great video thanks for the memories!
This run slapped!! Had me buying well into the 20 something issue
Rick Leonardi was inked by Kent Williams in Uncanny Xmen 252 which is a real weird one I’d love to see under the microscope. A Leonardi Daredevil that I really liked was 277.
20:48 hahaha, wasn't expecting this. EXCELSIOR!
I think Uncanny X-Men 231 is Leonardi's best comic. Its a Colossus story, and its amazing. 235 and 237 are also great X-Men issues by him.
Rick Leonardi was one of the all time great Spider-man artists. I loved the way he drew Spidey’s eyes in Spider-man #17. His knee and shin anatomy was so good and his poses were so dynamic
Erik Larsen still draws Leonardi feet, which I love.
The future conceit for this future PAD was establishing was tributing Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and Miguel's transformation is right out of Cronenberg's BrundleFly. Being aware of this, the issue was a much better read going in.
Looking at Spidey's feet on the cover reminds me of when I started Life Drawing Classes in '92. While looking at my art at the end of the first class, the teacher made me right away, "You're a comic book artist, aren't you?". Puzzled, I asked, "How can you tell?". He nodded at my gesture drawing, "Your feet!...Draw what you see!"
Dude
Hitting that Yoga with Adriene!
Even your external references land!
I forgot up until very recently just how big Marvel wanted the 2099 stuff to be. They were giving it a huge push across all media. I only remembered because recently I dug out all my trading cards from the 90s and ‘95 Flair Marvel Annual had a HEAVY 2099 presence, even in the bonus chase cards. You’d expect Wolverine or Hulk, but instead you’d get Punisher 2099.
Maybe it’s my memory, but 2099 didn’t land as well as they hoped because Age of Apocalypse was around the same time and was much more interesting for people? I was young so I may not have the greatest memory. Either way, it seemed like a cool experiment that never got its true peak.
Watching some of the "making of" videos of Across The SpiderVerse, how Rick Leonardi along with Brian Stelfreeze and many other artists are brought in to teach animators how to draw and make the marks they make- all in the service of celebrating the original artists. Same w Mahfood and Sienkiewicz and Picelli, it would be really interesting to hear Kayfabe's take on the films, especially since Miles Morales is a recent Marvel addition and pretty separate from any of the Lee/ Kirby/ Ditko/ Image artist era that is generally focused on.
"Shit!" "Fuck!" --"Shit Fuck!!"
Perhaps Mr. Rugg is harnessing the elevator scene from 1989's "Blind Fury."
The Kayfabe effect is real! I ordered a copy of yesterday’s L.B. Cole book right after yesterday’s video dropped for $45 can on Amazon, I went back to buy it as a gift today but it’s now 87!
Please do Doom, Xmen, and Ghost Rider 2099. I loved the first year or so of those books.
Loved this video. Answered many questions for me.
You guys often speak of “one and done” comics and I’ve been wondering exactly what you mean. You described some things here, which was great, but can you guys do more coverage of one and done comics and comics that like you say “give a complete episode”? Thanks Cartoonist Kayfabe and keep killing it!!!
oh snap! This was my fav when it came out. It was so different in style to other things I was seeing at the time.
Leonardi was the launch artist for Fantastic Four 2099 too, toward the end of the line.
Wow cool to see this here. This was my first comic book. Story is a mess but I would spend hours coping those figures. I recall getting it at a CVS. I never went to comic shops back then so I do think that memory is correct but nostaligic might of set in. I still have it though and the issues that followed it. There wasn't much I rember from the stories but I loved those ink lines. The Punisher 2099 might be a good one to look into if your intrested in doing more videos on this 2099 line. Enjoy the videos!
I used to have a ton of these and Teen Titans. Sold my comics like a dope, but have started buying again thanks to you guys!
Absolutely nailed on Peter David!
Colan drew big, with lots of planes around the figure.
I found one of the best channels on UA-cam. Thank you for the Moebius stuff guys. I have 2 suggestions for the future. I think you would enjoy talking about Lone Sloane -Salammbo (Our man Druillet) and Henriette Valium - The Palace of Champions. It’s all gone a bit French sorry.
Weird coincidence -- I was reading about Henriette Valium and The Palace of Champions last evening. - JR
Spider-Man 2099 was the only title I picked up from that line. It really stood well on its own and I enjoyed it.
I got this comic from a friend because his mom wouldn’t let him watch police academy and mine did
I'm a HUUUUUGE Leonardi fan, and this run on this title was great! Really engaging stuff. Tons of Spidey coming up
I remember being so excited to read this when it came out, but gave up after issue one due to the lack of Spider-Man in the book. I only kept it for the metallic red cover.
This takes me back. From the 2099 titles, I think Doom was the only one I got into. I did get a few of several of the others but didn't really like them too much.
I loved all of Marvel's alt world books - 2099, MC2, New Universe, WhatIf, Exiles, Mutant X....I think Marvel's best works are where they give their writers free reign and these books are wild. Everything else they make feels tame to me.
Rick Leonardi on the first run of Cloak & Dagger is excellent. Highly recommend checking it out.
I bought into one of those #1 issue bundles too, wound up with Spidey, X-Men, Doom and Punisher, and against all odds and my current taste in comics, somehow the Punisher one ended up holding up the best. Just drops you right into the action, Punisher beats the shit out of a dude with a spiked baton in the first few pages, he fries a dude inside a holding cell with a microwave gun, that one was it.
Jimmy got it right, it's such a simple concept to bring these characters to a dystopian future, you dont need the corporate raider neuromancer bullshit frontloaded in issue one, just give us a cool future Spider Man, give us the action to hook us in, and build the world in upcoming issues.
Loved Doom 2099!! Never even bought this or Hulk 2099.
I remember having this comic as a kid but it came packaged in the action figure of spider man 2099 from Toy Biz. The comic had a white border instead of the red chrome. That white border version of the comic is the one that’s burned in my memory and the red border one looks weird to me lol. Shoulda kept that action figure cause a sealed one is going for 300-400 bucks right now.
Can you guys do a video on DOOM 2099? Still one of my favorites to read
That comic is great!
Yeah, I stayed on this for about 7 or 8 issues then left it. Still dig that art though.
Yooo I totally sent away for that Charleston Chew Sam Keith Wolvie issue
You guys talked a bit about the ins and outs of a first issue. I'd love to hear you guys talk at length about the makings of a great first issue.
I'd love to see you all hop in to ALL the 2099 series. I feel like they were such a cool concept, and the gimmick covers actually looked great. But ultimately non of the titles really delivered on the premise. I feel like that's mostly due to almost universally unlikable characters. I still feel compelled by these titles though.
I didn't get past #1 on this one, but I think I got into Punisher 2099 for a while. For some reason??
Speaking of Thriller, what the hell happened to Dondi? Did he join a fanatical Christina Lindberg cult or something?
Some of the faces remind me of JRJR
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Painkiller Jane!
I have this. Great issue.
Spider-Man 2099 decompressed storytelling with a gimmicky cover: as crappy thirty years ago as it is today.