100% yes. Especially considering how much less premium one is going to pay for the new Avalon Hybrid. I own an 14es300h since new, so far I have 61000 miles on the car. Absolutely zero problems. I got the hybrid for many reasons. Better economy in bad traffic, no transmission hunting, Low brake wear, passing power, quietness and the 35 MPG average hand calculated.
Just bought a 2021 Avalon Limited Hybrid and getting 45-46 MPG. Love this car. We bought now because Toyota has announced that 2022 will be the last for the Avalon line. Too bad, we bought a new Avalon in 2000 and drove it for 21 years with NO problems of any kind. Love Toyota.
100k is like a walk in the park for a toyota! Comment when you get to 300k this cars are made to last at least that is the hope the new Camrys are also very nice specially if you are considering a hybrid.
I drive an 09 Avalon Limited with 91,000 miles. It's a great car! Historically the difference in price between a Prius and comparable Corolla meant the payback for the hybrid system took 8 to 10 years to break even. If the price difference for the 2019 Avalon hybrid over the V6 version is only $1,000 then I could recoup the cost in 2 years. Since I keep my Toyota's for 8 to 10 years, the hybrid could be a real long-term value. I'll have to drive both versions to see how different they feel. I think Toyota will be selling a lot of Avalon Hybrids with the new 2019 model.
First, if someone's main concern is sports car dynamics then they aren't looking at a Avalon or ES. Next, for me when I'm stuck in gridlock or I'm being shuffled traffic light to traffic light I do have mpg on my mind just because that's where my brain ticks over to monitoring. Last, look at Avalons and ESes two or three years old and I bet the price gap between hybrid and non-hybrid is even smaller. These are great commuter vehicles. A three year old ES300h and Lotus are greater than a new M5.
I did it with a 2013 Avalon Hybrid. The cost for the touring vs touring hybrid was $1500. With gas prices in California back over $4 I,m feeling pretty good.
Motoman always great videos! Camry xse Hybrid? I Just took a 250 mile trip in a rented 18 camry se 4 cylinder, great car for the money, great mpg! Even better 4 doors are dead DEEP discounts! Keep em coming
I own a 13 Avalon Hybrid, flawless so far, but only 40k miles, so I'll probably skip this generation Hybrid. Here in California gas is again approaching $4 a gallon, so my question is why would anyone buy the ICE version?
Cuz the same gas in texas goes for 2.50 a gallon. =/ Well gas in nevada is around 3.20 now... used to be much cheaper *more then a dollar cheaper. I'm guess the population boom in southern nevada area is making them selling more cali gas to nevada.
I own a 13 Avalon with 85k+ trouble free miles. Will definitely get either this or the Lexus ES hybrid (better stereo.) not too worried about the payback, just enjoy buying gas maybe once every other week with a 40 mile one way commute.
I was worried you replaced Kumo! Cute pupper! Given the personality and use of the Avalon, yes, I would absolutely get the hybrid. Usable around town, and good for highway cruising, in a comfortable package that has this good of an mpg makes perfect sense, when in the market for a sensible vehicle. Seeing as we don't have huge American highways with 6-8 lanes here in Quebec, what I may lose in passing power or stability is not a concern. People rarely drive over 65mph here.
I’m actually seriously considering the Avalon Hybrid XSE. I drive a lot for work and currently drive a Grand Cherokee. I need something big to carry around my product bags and even though this is is no SUV it is a big sedan and would more than double my mpg. Great videos on the Avalon, thank you!
If I upgraded to a new 2019 Limited today, yes I would get the Hybrid. I have a 2013 Limited V6. I think the Hybrid version was only $1500 back then so still not bad. When my car was new and had those horrible Bridgestone stock tire (18" and only good for MPG). I did a 60 mile trip driving some highway with 45 to 55 MPH rural roads. I was in Normal mode and did drive ECO style. ECO style is gliding stops and turtle starts. Avg MPG for the trip was 37.3. My car gets best MPG in that 45 to 60 MPH. Once over 60 the wind resistance takes it toll. Daily non-highway driving I got 26.5 AVG. Now even with only 31,000 miles of wear. My MPG is down. This is also due to having safer and smoother riding All-Weather tires. I have lost almost 1.5 MPG. I am also not as conservative of a driver now. Great cars and Toyota reliability and 95% the same car (Limited) as a Lexus ES350 for $6,000 less.
$1000 diff for Hybrid. For me, yes. I only drive 8000mi/yr @ $3.50 gal., my break-even is 25 months. (no residual value of $1000 at sale). After that, I'm saving $500/yr in gas cost. So if I keep car my usual 7 years, I save $2500 with Hybrid.
I realize I’m very late to the game as far as commenting but I’d give a definite yes to hybrids in general. The price difference between a hybrid and gas only is minimal. Someone such as myself who commutes in a lot of stop and go traffic (also having a 45 mile one way commute) it doesn’t make sense NOT to buy a hybrid. My two favorite hybrids right now are the Avalon Limited (for the drivers side dimming mirror) and the Honda Insight. I realize they are two different as far as size and price but viewed separately for what they are each car is a good value. (Just my opinion) For the number of Civics I see on the road I honestly don’t understand why Honda doesn’t sell more Insights. The Avalon isn’t a big seller, however Toyota is known for their reliability as far as hybrids go and again I’m surprised we don’t see more Camry hybrids on the road as well... Excellent video by the way, very informative! Thank you.
I'm not certain that I'd select the hybrid over the V6 for this car but one thing that I'm sure of is that when cars become completely electric full sized cars will become popular again as manufacturers won't be saddled by restrictions. Wheelbases can return to 128" and cars can become taller with higher step in heights as the were pre widetrack in the early 1950s. That's the proportioning that large sedans need to be properly comfortable. That's why Roll-Royces sedans, Bentley's Mulsanne and the Mercedes S Class sedans are still the most comfortable luxury sedans in the world and the more low slung 7 Series, XJ (a personal favorite) and the LS are more like large midsizers but still desirable. Electrification will bring so much flexibility and choice that it could reshape which manufactures are most successful. Consider how reliable an Italian car could be if they didn't have to build a combustion engine, transmission or anything more complicated than an appliance motor for it. Suddenly they'd have a chance and American manufacturers might get a second chance at a golden era too. I'm old AF so I know that I won't see a large number fully realized but I have a fully solar powered home and sell my excess to the utility company. I grow most of my own food and most of my landscaping trees produce fruit including some of my hedges. Living electric needn't be a restriction. It gives more options if ICE engines are still an option on the market as well for those that want them. I'd really like a full electric vehicle that I could plug in daily and hope one day to see the inside of a gas station only to buy Gatorade or a coffee in the morning. Life made easier.
Yes i would definitely consider the Avalon Hybrid, and THANK YOU for answering why they went with a Nickel battery vs Lithium - i was wondering why for so long. I would cross shop this with the Accord Hybrid but i gotta see a review on that one!
Nice car, especially compared to what's out there for the price. Not sure if it's what I'm going with next. I love performance but am willing to step down a bit and go mpg's with two kids entering college. However, fully loaded I'm going to be spending $37k or so or roughly $700mo to buy a new one vs something like a Tesla 3 Series where I may spend $200mo more but with nearly zero maintenance or fuel costs.
No hybrid for me. I like some sportiness in the cars I drive. Now, if hp was similar to the 3.5 ltr and Toyota replaced that CVT with a conventional tranny, I'd be open to considering a hybrid.
I have a 2007 Toyota Avalon XLS 130,000 miles Recently I have two major problems The remote or FOB not working (after spending $1,537 to replace the receiver) that what the Toyota dealer told me by replacing it it will be fixed! Still not working and want 18 more labor hours at $190 to find out what is going on!!! The rack and pinion need to be replaced $1000 for parts 3.5 hours for labor at $190 per hour Alignment @ $160 Power steering flush @ $160 Grand total is $2,075 for the rack and pinion! WTF!
100% yes. Especially considering how much less premium one is going to pay for the new Avalon Hybrid. I own an 14es300h since new, so far I have 61000 miles on the car. Absolutely zero problems. I got the hybrid for many reasons. Better economy in bad traffic, no transmission hunting, Low brake wear, passing power, quietness and the 35 MPG average hand calculated.
Well done.
Just bought a 2021 Avalon Limited Hybrid and getting 45-46 MPG. Love this car. We bought now because Toyota has announced that 2022 will be the last for the Avalon line. Too bad, we bought a new Avalon in 2000 and drove it for 21 years with NO problems of any kind. Love Toyota.
Absolute YES. My 2007 Lexus LX470 just hit trouble free 100k miles. Thank you toyota.
Don't forget to change the timing belt. Enjoy the next 100,000 miles ;)
Right Lane Hog I just did at 95k. Timing belt water pump.
@@khhoaiii
My lx470 2006
440,000 km
With out any trouble 😍
100k is like a walk in the park for a toyota! Comment when you get to 300k this cars are made to last at least that is the hope the new Camrys are also very nice specially if you are considering a hybrid.
The hybrids mpg is simply outstanding. Stick with the smallest wheels possible to get the full benefit of the hybrid system.
I drive an 09 Avalon Limited with 91,000 miles. It's a great car! Historically the difference in price between a Prius and comparable Corolla meant the payback for the hybrid system took 8 to 10 years to break even. If the price difference for the 2019 Avalon hybrid over the V6 version is only $1,000 then I could recoup the cost in 2 years. Since I keep my Toyota's for 8 to 10 years, the hybrid could be a real long-term value. I'll have to drive both versions to see how different they feel. I think Toyota will be selling a lot of Avalon Hybrids with the new 2019 model.
Thank you for your wit and for sharing Charlie.🐶
though i'd rather pet Julia.....
First, if someone's main concern is sports car dynamics then they aren't looking at a Avalon or ES. Next, for me when I'm stuck in gridlock or I'm being shuffled traffic light to traffic light I do have mpg on my mind just because that's where my brain ticks over to monitoring. Last, look at Avalons and ESes two or three years old and I bet the price gap between hybrid and non-hybrid is even smaller. These are great commuter vehicles. A three year old ES300h and Lotus are greater than a new M5.
I did it with a 2013 Avalon Hybrid. The cost for the touring vs touring hybrid was $1500. With gas prices in California back over $4 I,m feeling pretty good.
Yesterday Diesel in Sweden hit record 16,16 Skr / Liter (1.8 $ / Liter) So Toyota Avalon Hybrid is welcome here.
Motoman always great videos! Camry xse Hybrid? I Just took a 250 mile trip in a rented 18 camry se 4 cylinder, great car for the money, great mpg! Even better 4 doors are dead DEEP discounts! Keep em coming
That new 4 cylinder Camry gets great mpg.
I own a 13 Avalon Hybrid, flawless so far, but only 40k miles, so I'll probably skip this generation Hybrid. Here in California gas is again approaching $4 a gallon,
so my question is why would anyone buy the ICE version?
Cuz the same gas in texas goes for 2.50 a gallon. =/ Well gas in nevada is around 3.20 now... used to be much cheaper *more then a dollar cheaper. I'm guess the population boom in southern nevada area is making them selling more cali gas to nevada.
I own a 13 Avalon with 85k+ trouble free miles. Will definitely get either this or the Lexus ES hybrid (better stereo.) not too worried about the payback, just enjoy buying gas maybe once every other week with a 40 mile one way commute.
Did you ever have a problem with the nickel hydride battery needing to be replaced? If you did how much did that cost?
Yesterday Diesel in Sweden hit record 16,16 Skr / Liter (1.8 $ / Liter) So Toyota Avalon Hybrid is welcome here.
tom eng, Diesel is doomed but I do wish they made hybrids with manual transmissions.
I was worried you replaced Kumo! Cute pupper! Given the personality and use of the Avalon, yes, I would absolutely get the hybrid. Usable around town, and good for highway cruising, in a comfortable package that has this good of an mpg makes perfect sense, when in the market for a sensible vehicle. Seeing as we don't have huge American highways with 6-8 lanes here in Quebec, what I may lose in passing power or stability is not a concern. People rarely drive over 65mph here.
Let's be clear . . . Kumo runs the show around here . . . HE'S the one that does the replacing:)
I’m actually seriously considering the Avalon Hybrid XSE. I drive a lot for work and currently drive a Grand Cherokee. I need something big to carry around my product bags and even though this is is no SUV it is a big sedan and would more than double my mpg. Great videos on the Avalon, thank you!
If I upgraded to a new 2019 Limited today, yes I would get the Hybrid.
I have a 2013 Limited V6. I think the Hybrid version was only $1500 back then so still not bad.
When my car was new and had those horrible Bridgestone stock tire (18" and only good for MPG). I did a 60 mile trip driving some highway with 45 to 55 MPH rural roads. I was in Normal mode and did drive ECO style. ECO style is gliding stops and turtle starts. Avg MPG for the trip was 37.3. My car gets best MPG in that 45 to 60 MPH. Once over 60 the wind resistance takes it toll.
Daily non-highway driving I got 26.5 AVG. Now even with only 31,000 miles of wear. My MPG is down. This is also due to having safer and smoother riding All-Weather tires. I have lost almost 1.5 MPG. I am also not as conservative of a driver now.
Great cars and Toyota reliability and 95% the same car (Limited) as a Lexus ES350 for $6,000 less.
$1000 diff for Hybrid. For me, yes. I only drive 8000mi/yr @ $3.50 gal., my break-even is 25 months. (no residual value of $1000 at sale). After that, I'm saving $500/yr in gas cost. So if I keep car my usual 7 years, I save $2500 with Hybrid.
I realize I’m very late to the game as far as commenting but I’d give a definite yes to hybrids in general. The price difference between a hybrid and gas only is minimal. Someone such as myself who commutes in a lot of stop and go traffic (also having a 45 mile one way commute) it doesn’t make sense NOT to buy a hybrid. My two favorite hybrids right now are the Avalon Limited (for the drivers side dimming mirror) and the Honda Insight. I realize they are two different as far as size and price but viewed separately for what they are each car is a good value. (Just my opinion) For the number of Civics I see on the road I honestly don’t understand why Honda doesn’t sell more Insights. The Avalon isn’t a big seller, however Toyota is known for their reliability as far as hybrids go and again I’m surprised we don’t see more Camry hybrids on the road as well... Excellent video by the way, very informative! Thank you.
I'd avoid using DELTA when a normal word like difference would suffice. Using delta so often is distracting and sounds weird.
I'm not certain that I'd select the hybrid over the V6 for this car but one thing that I'm sure of is that when cars become completely electric full sized cars will become popular again as manufacturers won't be saddled by restrictions. Wheelbases can return to 128" and cars can become taller with higher step in heights as the were pre widetrack in the early 1950s. That's the proportioning that large sedans need to be properly comfortable. That's why Roll-Royces sedans, Bentley's Mulsanne and the Mercedes S Class sedans are still the most comfortable luxury sedans in the world and the more low slung 7 Series, XJ (a personal favorite) and the LS are more like large midsizers but still desirable. Electrification will bring so much flexibility and choice that it could reshape which manufactures are most successful. Consider how reliable an Italian car could be if they didn't have to build a combustion engine, transmission or anything more complicated than an appliance motor for it. Suddenly they'd have a chance and American manufacturers might get a second chance at a golden era too. I'm old AF so I know that I won't see a large number fully realized but I have a fully solar powered home and sell my excess to the utility company. I grow most of my own food and most of my landscaping trees produce fruit including some of my hedges. Living electric needn't be a restriction. It gives more options if ICE engines are still an option on the market as well for those that want them. I'd really like a full electric vehicle that I could plug in daily and hope one day to see the inside of a gas station only to buy Gatorade or a coffee in the morning. Life made easier.
Bruce Solomon - never happen...total electric cars CANNOT be supported. Hydrogen hybrids will be the future.
Yes i would definitely consider the Avalon Hybrid, and THANK YOU for answering why they went with a Nickel battery vs Lithium - i was wondering why for so long. I would cross shop this with the Accord Hybrid but i gotta see a review on that one!
Jesus Ramirez - Nickel does not catch fire like lithium.
The nickel battery also performs better in cold weather.
Nice car, especially compared to what's out there for the price. Not sure if it's what I'm going with next. I love performance but am willing to step down a bit and go mpg's with two kids entering college. However, fully loaded I'm going to be spending $37k or so or roughly $700mo to buy a new one vs something like a Tesla 3 Series where I may spend $200mo more but with nearly zero maintenance or fuel costs.
Hybrid is awesome and quite. Plus better mpg for uber drivers
the front appear to be broken or is it missing some parts
Guys what do you think of the Japan Domestic Market Toyota Axio hybrid? It boasts a fuel economy of 33 km per litre!
Yes 100%
Yes on hybrid version.
No hybrid for me. I like some sportiness in the cars I drive. Now, if hp was similar to the 3.5 ltr and Toyota replaced that CVT with a conventional tranny, I'd be open to considering a hybrid.
give charlie cookies please
Yes!
Yes
New Avalon hybrid or new ES hybrid?
Styling I guess. Which one do you like?
I wonder what the comparable trim/package purchase price comes out to be?
i was about to ask ...where is kumo?
I have a 2007 Toyota Avalon XLS
130,000 miles
Recently I have two major problems
The remote or FOB not working (after spending $1,537 to replace the receiver) that what the Toyota dealer told me by replacing it it will be fixed! Still not working and want 18 more labor hours at $190 to find out what is going on!!!
The rack and pinion need to be replaced $1000 for parts
3.5 hours for labor at $190 per hour
Alignment @ $160
Power steering flush @ $160
Grand total is $2,075 for the rack and pinion!
WTF!
Hybrid for sure...why wouldn’t you. If you must have performance, get BMW or Merc
I'm just waiting for hydrogen fuel cells.Then I'll make the switch to electric.
Last year the heated seats light indicator went out on the driver side
Year before that the headline started to separate.
Beautiful car, but how could anyone get excited about a hybrid? Go full EV! Tesla!
Tesla isn't exactly the car you want, if long term keeping and trouble free is on your mind.
Hybrid.
UPS truck!
Yep more problems as the car gets older
I am going to lease all future vehicles from now on