They're absolutely not all correct, and UA-cam has taken away any real method to add a correction on screen or fix it. They should read: Head: 1.03 in (2.61 cm), length 3.17 (8.05cm). Everything else is correct.
"Sorry, but that's bright as shit..." And THAT is exactly why I tune in for every video you post. Well, that and you know your stuff. Thanks for consistently making me laugh, bro.
The reptile overlords told me to like, comment and share. Done. Very good review, subbed. Nice coincidence is, I did lose my edc light at work, and I was in for a new one. This one sold me. Good job, overlords.
MORE BABIES BEING ADORABLE PLEASE When my budget is more flexible, I'm picking up a Zebralight headlamp. It's the only compact AA headlamp with sub 1 lumen (and enough throw to read house numbers) that I know of. Most headlamps are too floddy for my liking.
Not really Interested in flashlights but I appreciate a comprehensive and entertaining review when I see one. Great work bro! (You are the one and only exception to my "never call someone bro" rule..)
Very nice comprehensive review sir. Liked and subbed; love the sarcastic humor as well. I’ve been attached to Olight for a while and need a change - this looks amazing. Presuming you still get this comment after so many years…. How did it hold up and would you still recommend it? [Edit] Was this essentially replaced by the SC5W?
Mini-AdvancedKnifeBro has great flashlight etiquette, give my 2 year old a flashlight and it's straight into dad's eyes. Another great video, I've watched them all, keep them coming, although your making me buy flashlights again.
Temps are very helpful. I might pick this one up. Your advice on the sc600w MK3 HI encouraged me to buy my favorite EDC. If this is even half as good as the other I'm getting one for my wife too!
Nice review as always. Can't wait till the 18650 lights get the new UI. Returned an olight h2r because it was so heavy and didn't care for the mode spacing and live contacts. Bought a zebralight h600fc instead and it is waaay better imo. Zebralight just does it right. So light for an 18650. So many modes. Awesome warm cri tint. If I was in the market I would buy this AA lite too.
Wow great video! I have the SC52w L2 AA light. Its definitely my favorite light and I love the lower lumen outputs for 95% of my tasks while camping. The high CRI makes nature look great at night. Very natural. The only thing I don't like about this light, and many others now it seems, is how easy it is to lock out the light. I turn it off accidentally with a strong grip all the time, or try and turn it on and have to tighten the head because it lost contact. I use it so often that at least a quarter turn lockout would make more sense. But overall the SC5c mk II looks like it would be an upgrade to the light I have while being relatively similar.
Just got this light today and I can tell this is going to be my new favorite! I have the sc600w mkIII so I knew I would like this one. My only complaint is the pocket clip. I wish it was a bit more deep carry, wasn't screwed on and mine is way to stiff, I can barely get it in my pocket... UI is great.
Now i'm torn between this one and H53c (285lm headtorch model, same led). Which tint you find nicer - ZL Sc5c mkII or Lumintop IYP 365 (nichia)? In the movie both seems similar ...
One can't have too many flashlights. Or knives. Or therapists. I own the SC5 W DP, which is probably nearly identical to this SC5c MKII, but after watching your review I find myself wanting the SC5c MKII. And another therapist.
Great review, tempting to pick one up, but between my olight i3s on my keyring and the TLR-3 on my edc Glock I'm usually covered with my flashlight needs. I still want one of these!
I find the Mi7 a great pocket light as it's super bright.The only problem is the on switch is easy to accidentally activate so you must use the lock out.I use my Mi7 mainly for indoor use while I use bigger lights with more mode options for outdoor use.
Top notch EDC light, it's a shame they jacked the pocket clip up. That is kind of a big deal if you plan to carry it every day. Thanks for the review Knife Bro!
A similar style has been used on the sc52, sc5, sc62 and sc63 line in the past. Although the old ones were polished steel finish (no black coating/paint), and a larger hole cut out around the part that flexes near the screw attachment point. The larger ones (sc600 form factor) have always used the other push on clips that sit deeper in the pocket. I hope they'll keep using the same clips on those.
Started letting my nephew handle some of my smallest pocket knives (under close supervision) when he was 4. Now he's six and his grandmother has given him his own standard size swiss army knife. Is my family odd? I grew up the same way, had a 410 break action shotgun at 11. Rarely shot it though because My dad was stingy with the ammo. Pellet/BB guns all day long however. Ahh country life. Now I live in a city in California and it kinda sucks =D
It would be great if you did more AA/14500 lights. I want to see the new EDC brass triple from ASF. Also, you may want to check out the Jetbeam SF-AA01. 700lm 14500 rear clicky light with surprising throw from an XP-L HI & smooth reflector. I have one and love it. It's a perfect size for EDC and has a super simple UI but no moonlight sadly.
I got the headlamp version of this and the same defect happened, it was a faint flicker, and medium didn't turn on. I sent it back and am waiting for the new one to come in. I hope Zebralight isn't experiencing quality issues. They also don't seem very friendly RE: customer service. Maybe that's a no-frills feature of how they operate. For instance, I emailed them asking if the H600 had a pocket clip, or if I could buy a pocket clip. Their response was one word, "no". I do appreciate concise communication, but it seems a little gruff. Again, maybe a feature of their culture (not all customer service needs to be Nordstrom-like). Anyways, hope Zebralight isn't going through a quality-control-growing-pains phase.
Oh... I left out the part where I didn't hear back from them for weeks... when I was waiting for a replacement... I asked multiple times... for just an update. I finally had to get sort of snippy- and then it was shipped out a few days later.
I have this light but could not stand the clip. So I purchased the clip for the h52 AA headlamp and swapped it. Fits perfect and looks exactly like a mini sc600.
+TheShoelaceBandit I saw that soon after I bought it. No buyers remorse for me... I like the warmer tint and wanted a higher CRI. Plus the extra lumens ain't that worth it. I'll wait till they upgrade the 18650 line with the new UI.
Awesome review! Coincidentally just ordered this and the H53C a day ago direct from Zebralight (mainly because of the AA battery format and high CRI values) but now I'm worried about getting units with the same flicker issues as yours. How did your customer service experience go with this specific light?
+Edgar Ilaga most people didn't experience the flicker. I want to say it was on the .08 lumen mode... or maybe the .28 lumen mode. Just check it close in a dark room. If it doesn't flicker you're good. Customer service was slow- mine was about a month turn around... they said they received my return and didn't say anything after that... I messaged them 2 or 3 times over a month with no response until finally I sent a sort of stern message- asking why they stopped communicating. They responded finally- saying they were sorry- and sent it a few days later. I paid return shipping
Manker T01 500+ lumens witg also a single AA, but unlike the zebralight, the T01 has 14500 support gives an output of 1000 lumens 👍it was released first before the ZL..
What if I fall asleep and then wake up and realize I'm 4 videos deep so I have to go back and rewatch the video again? If I'm understanding this correctly I could technically program all the modes to the same level and have a single mode light... almost.
Watching a video twice all the way through is always acceptable. I did not try programming it that way... but Yes, in theory you could. I did program levels and sub levels the same a few times, and it was like I wasn't changing modes.
I feel like I would enjoy everything but that clip. I also would like it as an angle head. Do they make a comparable angle head that can use the 14500's?
Look at the Headlamp page from them. www.zebralight.com/Headlamp_c_7.html They do have last gen (H52) 14500 headlamps with clips, but they're not much brighter than the current gen eneloop only lights with clips. The H53 series
Nice light. Don't have much else to add, but I don't want to negatively affect your engagement. So, how about those nats? Will dusty baker manage to get the entire bullpen on the DL before the month is over?
Zebralight's site specifically recommends using Eneloops. Has anyone tried the Amazon Basics version of Eneloop? Internet folklore claims the Basics are rebranded Eneloops.
Too be honest I do think it would matter much.. Maybe slightly different runtimes only. It most definitely not hurt it. If you can save some dough- do it.
You should check out the Manker T01, 500lm on AA and 900lm on 14500. I really love the look of the Manker and have been waiting for a better price on it since it's around $50.
Thats a nice one... although it don't have the good moonlights and this guy tested less than 500 lumens on an eneloop. Not bad though. The Zebralight is kind of expensive. budgetlightforum.com/node/42713
My go to AA is the Manker E11. 400lm AA / 800lm 14500 cell. $30. Only 4 power modes and the lowest is ~20lm so no moonlight is the main downside. Ultra deep carry clip and slim efficient form factor are big pluses. My daily carry lights need to be reasonably cheap as they seem to jump out of my pockets in a way that knives don't. BTW: Anyone know a good source for high quality 14500's that don't cost a fortune? I sure don't.
Thanks for the reply AKB. That's a bit cheaper than what I've seen around. Drives me a little crazy that they are more expensive than 18650's. Guess it's the whole economy of scale thing.
+kleinbottled79 I buy 90% of my batteries there. He even had handy descriptions on each page about the characteristics about every battery. Very very helpful, and always legit cells.
I'm with E11, it's my EDC and I love the thing. Anodization on it sucks, tho. Placed an order for Astrolux S42 this weekend, not sure if it has the stuff to replace the E11. Not many people like it, GUI and efficiency issues as it has.
The new UI allows you to program any of it's 12 possible brightness modes to whatever click you want. I assigned the Highest brightness possible to M1.
Been looking at this one a few times now, that interface has me tempted every time I looked at it but I'm trying to refrain from ordering until an 18650 one with it comes along. Preferably in the sc63 form factor but sc600 will do if I have to. As for the batteries used by Zebralight, their product page does state it over here: www.zebralight.com/SC5c-Mk-II-AA-Flashlight-Neutral-White-High-CRI_p_192.html "Light output are ANSI out the front (OTF) values. Runtimes tested (and parasitic drain estimated) using Panasonic Eneloop Pro AA batteries. Remaining battery power, about 10-20%, after step-down are not counted towards the runtimes." And your story about the long replacement shipping time makes me happy about that one time I had an issue with one I bought through nkon.nl they were quick with a return shipping label to put on a box and had the replacement within a week. It was some strange malfunction with the high mode freaking out after a while of being on and other weird intermittent issues with brightness levels in general when stepping through the modes with press and hold. When this makes it to the 18650 models with a PID though, I somehow think people will go even more crazy about the user interface description if you add how to adjust the max temperature the PID will allow. I think it was having it in H1 before turning it off, turning it on in H1 and going through the modes from on by pressing + holding the button 5 or 6 times and then releasing it on low, medium or high. Low to lower it by 1 degree, medium to reset it to default and high to raise it by 1 degree. Pretty sure the maximum deviation from factory it allows is 5 degrees celsius.
Yeah... their customer service leaves a bit to be desired (Zebralights). Good to know about them using the pros. That means that some of the runtimes, that are already better than Zebralights would be even better.
Was watching the video again, that stood out at 1:20 this isn't the polished stainless steel clip I'm used to on the older sc52, sc62 and sc63 models. These new ones are black, not sure how I feel about that the initial look is fine but my experience with black clips on torches/knives is that usually over time you'll wear off the coating/paint/whatever and its sometimes just better to start with a piece of polished or satin finish steel. The shape is different too with a large amount being removed material in the middle near the attachment point for older ones where it flexes, instead it now has 3 holes that get smaller towards the head. Different fasteners as well based on the scale I'd say probably a T6 or T7 if the attachment base is still equally wide, the old ones used philips head screws. The sc600 clips will normally be like the deeper carry ones you referred to, those have been unchanged in my experience so far with the sc600w mk2, s600w mk3, sc600w hi intensity mk3, sc600Fd mk3 plus. I hope they won't change those and I'm not sure if I like the change in the smaller models. I wonder what they'll put on a sc62/sc63 form factor with the new UI eventually, using a T6 or T7 fastener screw is an improvement though in my opinion since they hold up a bit better than a regular philips. Btw something I'm really curious about, does the new SC5c have any improvement in being able to judge battery state of charge? I've owned (and still got some) of the AA/14500 based models and they are all terrible at judging the state of charge. Fresh from the charger 4 flashes, little bit of use 3 flashes, way more than half left and you get 2 or 1 flash already. I know its difficult to judge the state of charge of NiMH based on open cell or low load voltage which you can get away with on lithium ion batteries, but it has always really annoyed me the days I had limited pocket space and used my sc52w or the h52Fw that's in my backpack.
Thats a nice one too. Although it looks like the performance on an eneloop has been tested to be less than what I tested... and it doesn't have proper moonlight levels. Not a bad light though. budgetlightforum.com/node/42713
+chaot45 sometimes it takes several days for all resolutions of the video to clear up. I've found sometimes switching to a different resolution clears those artifacts up. Try 720p
Yeah... the file I uploaded doesn't look like that. It looks pretty bad on all of the UA-cam versions for me. These videos have a lot of black areas in them, and compression looks worst there. Next time I do a flashlight review I'll render it in a h264 version thats smaller and upload that. I normally upload in prores... which is about 8 GB for a video this long.
I've had it for months- and made part of the video but never finished it. The way those time lapse videos rekt my camera, and all the writing down numbers and math and shit- I just don't like doing them anymore. The internet likes long flashlight videos where people set their camera to auto- and don't test them I guess. My 15 hours spent on each video gets the same amount of views a person who spends 15 minutes makes. I might finish this video this year... but in all honestly- the IV is like the III except with that SC5 new UI. It's great and if you've watched my mk III video and the SC5 Mk II video- it's like a combination of those two. My favorite EDC. End of review.
I love your videos but I have a recommendation. Have you thought about separating the programming/light test from your reviews, like nick shabaz does his tear down of knives in different videos from the knife reviews? I really appreciate your opinion on things and humor but 16+ minutes for a flashlight review is a bit much. If I ended up buying one of these lights I'd love to have a video of you breaking down the settings and the lumen values you get but don't really need to see it in a review.
I have sort of thought about this. Let me play the Devils advocate though- many of nick Shabazz's and many other reviewers knife reviews continue into the 15-25 minute territory on just a single knife. A knife. Flashlights are inherently more complex- and just by function my testing takes those past a short review. Many table top reviews make flashlight reviews much longer than my videos, and they include no testing. My knife reviews and flashlight reviews are generally shorter and more comprehensive and take longer to produce than nearly all other internet reviewers. Which is why I use many camera set-ups, humor, jokes, and more to try and keep them moving along fast. I know it's a long video- but your request is probably the only I have gotten in a year and a half. I have thought about it... and I see my analytical show most people only watch 3-5 minutes in, on average. So it's a valid criticism. But youtube also rewards for longer videos... which is why you have knife guys reading catalogs for half an hour for the camera. So the answer is No, I am not going to do that now. But the good news is, I only have one flashlight review coming up in the middle of next month... and I'm not planning on any more for a while. So hopefully that helps! Honestly, you can get all you need to know by reading the manufacturers product page... and if you don't like doing that- there are dudes who unbox flashlights for about 5 minutes- you might get what you need from that. ua-cam.com/video/fxq1lcjMRlI/v-deo.html
Thanks for taking the time to make such a detailed response. I can definitely see your reasoning though. I'm really into flash lights and knives, like every other IPA drinking knife bro so I'm going to continue watching your videos and supporting your channel regardless of the time length of your posts. I was just giving some feedback and didn't know if it had occurred to you/come up before.
No problem! Believe me though... I have thought about just making shorter reviews for a while- mostly because of what my analytics tell me. I've actually improved my videos over the years because of viewer requests. The beamshots got better because of comparisons, the runtimes got better because of the lux meter, I've tried to sound more enthusiastic... etc. Believe it or not, I have had people on several occasions say they prefer my longer reviews- I'm not sure why- but they do. And another thing I kind of hate about UA-cam... is how people milk a single product. They can make 3 10-15 minute videos off a single whatever... and I don't like that. Those videos are often padded and cover the same ground... and I prefer to make one slightly longer, but better review. I know this is more than you wanted to hear about this... but it's something I often think about, when wondering why I don't have a larger audience.
A lot of people like that one. It has only 3 modes 5 lumens/90 lumens/ 330 lumens (700 on 14500). But I have not been interested in it because of the large mode spacing and lack of a sub lumen mode. It can accept 14500 though, so it can be brighter than the Zebralight. If you're not concerned by low end mode spacing or low modes, then this is a fine choice.
i guess i was wondering if they update the firmware mid production or only when they bring out new models but it looks like you are right.. i guess ill just wait for the next 18650 refresh. i got the H53Fc a while ago and cant get over how good it is.. also, your videos are fantastic - keep up the good work!!
+ignus16 thanks man! I follow the zebralight thread over on CPf fairly regularly- and I haven't heard a rumbling that any 18650s have it. Also there's a Zebralight google docs spreadsheet... it shows upcoming lights. Just google zebralight spreadsheet and you can probably find it.
I watched this whole video to help pump your stats. And because I have no friends...well...except for Larry. But I only keep Larry around because I have no real friends.
You have to go into G6 or G7. So click 6 times from off to go to G6... Then turn on your light in the mode you want to reassign. Double click 6 times... then you get to programming. then you go up in brightness by double clicks, down in brightness with triple clicks. Then press once to save the programming for that level. Hope that helps!
But it has strobe which is available for idiots, I will let him keep this, I'll buy another one which has strobe, but one that is available for everyone not only idiots.
Are you sure that the dimensions are correct? (14:21)
They're absolutely not all correct, and UA-cam has taken away any real method to add a correction on screen or fix it. They should read: Head: 1.03 in (2.61 cm), length 3.17 (8.05cm). Everything else is correct.
Yeah, I was thinking that 8 cm head would not fit into most pockets well at all. I enjoyed the review very much.
Best light review I have ever watched. I wish you would review everything, your great at it.
"Sorry, but that's bright as shit..."
And THAT is exactly why I tune in for every video you post. Well, that and you know your stuff. Thanks for consistently making me laugh, bro.
That was a LOL moment.,....
+Tyson R I mean.... as long as you realize it's a AA. Thanks man!
The reptile overlords told me to like, comment and share. Done. Very good review, subbed.
Nice coincidence is, I did lose my edc light at work, and I was in for a new one. This one sold me. Good job, overlords.
MORE BABIES BEING ADORABLE PLEASE
When my budget is more flexible, I'm picking up a Zebralight headlamp. It's the only compact AA headlamp with sub 1 lumen (and enough throw to read house numbers) that I know of. Most headlamps are too floddy for my liking.
Not really Interested in flashlights but I appreciate a comprehensive and entertaining review when I see one. Great work bro! (You are the one and only exception to my "never call someone bro" rule..)
Very nice comprehensive review sir. Liked and subbed; love the sarcastic humor as well. I’ve been attached to Olight for a while and need a change - this looks amazing. Presuming you still get this comment after so many years…. How did it hold up and would you still recommend it?
[Edit] Was this essentially replaced by the SC5W?
Mini-AdvancedKnifeBro has great flashlight etiquette, give my 2 year old a flashlight and it's straight into dad's eyes. Another great video, I've watched them all, keep them coming, although your making me buy flashlights again.
I sort of showed her how to hold it... although she likes looking directly into it for some reason. Must be an inherited trait!
Advanced Knife Bro ahhh now we know.... agreed...future teenage hand model!
Temps are very helpful. I might pick this one up. Your advice on the sc600w MK3 HI encouraged me to buy my favorite EDC. If this is even half as good as the other I'm getting one for my wife too!
+killroy riley yeah it's a great light... this one is just as good- provided you don't need the >500 lumens the 600 has
great flashlight, very bright and great UI indeed
it'll probably replace my fenix ld09...
thanks for the review! :)
Yeah it's a nice little light for sure!
Nice review as always. Can't wait till the 18650 lights get the new UI. Returned an olight h2r because it was so heavy and didn't care for the mode spacing and live contacts. Bought a zebralight h600fc instead and it is waaay better imo. Zebralight just does it right. So light for an 18650. So many modes. Awesome warm cri tint. If I was in the market I would buy this AA lite too.
Zebralights low mode spacing isn't my favorite. Only Armytek and Zebralight get it.
shamitoson agreed...I returned am O light Nova also because it didn't have a beacon mode like ZL...Save the SOS mode for the throwers
Zebralight is my best flashlight company 4 many reasons
Wow great video! I have the SC52w L2 AA light. Its definitely my favorite light and I love the lower lumen outputs for 95% of my tasks while camping. The high CRI makes nature look great at night. Very natural. The only thing I don't like about this light, and many others now it seems, is how easy it is to lock out the light. I turn it off accidentally with a strong grip all the time, or try and turn it on and have to tighten the head because it lost contact. I use it so often that at least a quarter turn lockout would make more sense. But overall the SC5c mk II looks like it would be an upgrade to the light I have while being relatively similar.
Great review!! And thanks for reminding me to grab a beer, made it even more enjoyable!
+Old Ben always trying to help!
I still await Zebralight to make a flashlight that I can program with claps. Yes, that Clapper Lamp commercial ruined me for life. Fuck I'm old.
Bluetooth is the new generations clap.
Wait...
@@AdvancedKnifeBro ~ I resemble(d) that statement.
Wait-wait....
Just got this light today and I can tell this is going to be my new favorite! I have the sc600w mkIII so I knew I would like this one. My only complaint is the pocket clip. I wish it was a bit more deep carry, wasn't screwed on and mine is way to stiff, I can barely get it in my pocket... UI is great.
See the new Zebralights just were announced for preorder? They have a 2300 lumen one with the new UI... I'm thinking of upgrading.
Advanced Knife Bro yes!!! That's amazing. I think I might wait for your review first though...
Yeah, i was waiting for this one. Thx Bro ;)
+evol took me a bit longer because of their super slow response on getting me a replacement unit.
Now i'm torn between this one and H53c (285lm headtorch model, same led). Which tint you find nicer - ZL Sc5c mkII or Lumintop IYP 365 (nichia)? In the movie both seems similar ...
One can't have too many flashlights. Or knives. Or therapists. I own the SC5 W DP, which is probably nearly identical to this SC5c MKII, but after watching your review I find myself wanting the SC5c MKII. And another therapist.
Great review, tempting to pick one up, but between my olight i3s on my keyring and the TLR-3 on my edc Glock I'm usually covered with my flashlight needs. I still want one of these!
At least you don't have a problem like me!
I find the Mi7 a great pocket light as it's super bright.The only problem is the on switch is easy to accidentally activate so you must use the lock out.I use my Mi7 mainly for indoor use while I use bigger lights with more mode options for outdoor use.
+Emidio R yeah this is an indoor light for me too. Most of my use is within a few feet in front of me.
Reverse polarity protection is like condoms for flashlights, so that must mean the SC5 is hittin' that sh*t raw-dogg! Cool review Brofessor
+Lefty Hook you don't need it! Thanks dude!
Top notch EDC light, it's a shame they jacked the pocket clip up. That is kind of a big deal if you plan to carry it every day. Thanks for the review Knife Bro!
+lowwkey91 I don't mind it much actually. But I thought I'd show some pictures because some people are particular about the clip!
A similar style has been used on the sc52, sc5, sc62 and sc63 line in the past. Although the old ones were polished steel finish (no black coating/paint), and a larger hole cut out around the part that flexes near the screw attachment point.
The larger ones (sc600 form factor) have always used the other push on clips that sit deeper in the pocket. I hope they'll keep using the same clips on those.
Give the Klarus Mi7 a try. I know, it only goes down to 5 lumens, but I think it's an excellent AA light.
Yeah that's a popular one. 700 lumens on a 14500 light that's pocketable is pretty fricking bright.
Your kid is too cute! I see your grooming them to like flashlights already. What's next, knives?!
Started letting my nephew handle some of my smallest pocket knives (under close supervision) when he was 4. Now he's six and his grandmother has given him his own standard size swiss army knife. Is my family odd? I grew up the same way, had a 410 break action shotgun at 11. Rarely shot it though because My dad was stingy with the ammo. Pellet/BB guns all day long however. Ahh country life. Now I live in a city in California and it kinda sucks =D
+The Extremely Mediocre Gamer when she gets old enough!
It would be great if you did more AA/14500 lights. I want to see the new EDC brass triple from ASF. Also, you may want to check out the Jetbeam SF-AA01. 700lm 14500 rear clicky light with surprising throw from an XP-L HI & smooth reflector. I have one and love it. It's a perfect size for EDC and has a super simple UI but no moonlight sadly.
That new ASF light looks like a sweet compact EDC. I'll keep that in mine when scouting more reviews.
I got the headlamp version of this and the same defect happened, it was a faint flicker, and medium didn't turn on. I sent it back and am waiting for the new one to come in. I hope Zebralight isn't experiencing quality issues. They also don't seem very friendly RE: customer service. Maybe that's a no-frills feature of how they operate. For instance, I emailed them asking if the H600 had a pocket clip, or if I could buy a pocket clip. Their response was one word, "no". I do appreciate concise communication, but it seems a little gruff. Again, maybe a feature of their culture (not all customer service needs to be Nordstrom-like).
Anyways, hope Zebralight isn't going through a quality-control-growing-pains phase.
Oh... I left out the part where I didn't hear back from them for weeks... when I was waiting for a replacement... I asked multiple times... for just an update. I finally had to get sort of snippy- and then it was shipped out a few days later.
I have this light but could not stand the clip. So I purchased the clip for the h52 AA headlamp and swapped it. Fits perfect and looks exactly like a mini sc600.
+nate z thanks! Maybe I should get one!
very good lights zebralights love them
This flashlight is smarter than some people I've met.
Amen.
I scored a mib h51 for $50 on eBay....from another idahodian!! Zebralights look plain Jane but, it seems they are well liked among their users.
Oh yeah... Zebralights are the bomb.
Teach'em young.. That's great... Hell never be scared of the dark.
No she won't!
advanced light baby!
Shining it at her face!
Zebralight SC52 is my EDC...size and output is almost unbeatable.
+Damen0530 yeah and you gotta love the new UI stuff
I agree, tried the olight s1r and it's a good light but I love the SC52w UI and the switch.
Nifty little light. I might have to pick one up.
+Elvay it's a good one.
Sorry to be the one to give you buyers remorse. The New SC5w Mk II has the new UI and will output 550 lumens
+TheShoelaceBandit I saw that soon after I bought it. No buyers remorse for me... I like the warmer tint and wanted a higher CRI. Plus the extra lumens ain't that worth it. I'll wait till they upgrade the 18650 line with the new UI.
Advanced Knife Bro by the way, your review are among the best on UA-cam. thanks for all the time you put into them.
+TheShoelaceBandit thanks man! Glad you like them.
Awesome review! Coincidentally just ordered this and the H53C a day ago direct from Zebralight (mainly because of the AA battery format and high CRI values) but now I'm worried about getting units with the same flicker issues as yours. How did your customer service experience go with this specific light?
+Edgar Ilaga most people didn't experience the flicker. I want to say it was on the .08 lumen mode... or maybe the .28 lumen mode. Just check it close in a dark room. If it doesn't flicker you're good. Customer service was slow- mine was about a month turn around... they said they received my return and didn't say anything after that... I messaged them 2 or 3 times over a month with no response until finally I sent a sort of stern message- asking why they stopped communicating. They responded finally- saying they were sorry- and sent it a few days later. I paid return shipping
+Edgar Ilaga if you ever can... go through a reputable dealer... places like Illumn.com have much better customer service
yes! do all the zebra lights please.
I ain't made of money!
The subliminals are a bit intense at times... please modulate accordingly
'Grab a beer' ::pauses video and grabs a beer::
+Derek of Gont the right thing to do!
Legendary
Olight i5r I think 180 lumens,and about 2 hours,it's a proprietary even and won't run that long on a regular
My sample has a bit of greenish in the corona. Maybe due to the green AR on the glass. The hotspot has a nice neutral tint.
Mine is pretty nice. I should have just said "golden" for the tint, because its more golden than orange.
Sweet light! On the list...
+Cole Constantinoff noice!
Manker T01 500+ lumens witg also a single AA, but unlike the zebralight, the T01 has 14500 support gives an output of 1000 lumens 👍it was released first before the ZL..
You should take a look at Manker E11. It will become your new favorite light. :)
nice light:) cool review :) and cute kid:)
She's my little cutie! Thanks man!
What if I fall asleep and then wake up and realize I'm 4 videos deep so I have to go back and rewatch the video again? If I'm understanding this correctly I could technically program all the modes to the same level and have a single mode light... almost.
Watching a video twice all the way through is always acceptable. I did not try programming it that way... but Yes, in theory you could. I did program levels and sub levels the same a few times, and it was like I wasn't changing modes.
I prefer the screw attached clip.
+IrishDevil78 then it's perfect!
God damn you now I have to get one... Does it work with 14500s? I mustve been asleep if you mentioned it
Nope... AA (eneloop) only. Thanks man!
Hi,
i will question for the beam distance ?
Example the Manker T01 ii has a beam distance by a AA battery to 200 m.
Thanks.
@ 7:02 I think your ZL had a O O O light...so what your saying is wait for the MK
lll ??? Still, an impressive light!
I'd wait for the next 18650, when it gets this firmware.
I like the light, but disappointed no 3.7 rechargeable 14500, but it's cool.
Was it just me, or when turning it on in low mode, does this light blink briefly at a higher output?
Is it me or does any action (double or triple clicking) cause it to briefly flash in the brightest mode?
+Evan van den Berg it does... which is why I programmed one of the other groups to try and avoid that. It's just part of zebraligjts UI.
I feel like I would enjoy everything but that clip. I also would like it as an angle head. Do they make a comparable angle head that can use the 14500's?
Look at the Headlamp page from them. www.zebralight.com/Headlamp_c_7.html They do have last gen (H52) 14500 headlamps with clips, but they're not much brighter than the current gen eneloop only lights with clips. The H53 series
Nice light. Don't have much else to add, but I don't want to negatively affect your engagement. So, how about those nats? Will dusty baker manage to get the entire bullpen on the DL before the month is over?
+Fitz Mouse thanks for the engagement!
Zebralight's site specifically recommends using Eneloops. Has anyone tried the Amazon Basics version of Eneloop? Internet folklore claims the Basics are rebranded Eneloops.
Too be honest I do think it would matter much.. Maybe slightly different runtimes only. It most definitely not hurt it. If you can save some dough- do it.
Advanced Knife Bro thanks 👍
You should check out the Manker T01, 500lm on AA and 900lm on 14500. I really love the look of the Manker and have been waiting for a better price on it since it's around $50.
Thats a nice one... although it don't have the good moonlights and this guy tested less than 500 lumens on an eneloop. Not bad though. The Zebralight is kind of expensive.
budgetlightforum.com/node/42713
Nice
My go to AA is the Manker E11. 400lm AA / 800lm 14500 cell. $30. Only 4 power modes and the lowest is ~20lm so no moonlight is the main downside. Ultra deep carry clip and slim efficient form factor are big pluses. My daily carry lights need to be reasonably cheap as they seem to jump out of my pockets in a way that knives don't. BTW: Anyone know a good source for high quality 14500's that don't cost a fortune? I sure don't.
+kleinbottled79 i buy 14500 from Mtn electronics. I mean they're around $5 a cell... but that's what you pay for decent ones.
Thanks for the reply AKB. That's a bit cheaper than what I've seen around. Drives me a little crazy that they are more expensive than 18650's. Guess it's the whole economy of scale thing.
+kleinbottled79 I buy 90% of my batteries there. He even had handy descriptions on each page about the characteristics about every battery. Very very helpful, and always legit cells.
I'm with E11, it's my EDC and I love the thing. Anodization on it sucks, tho. Placed an order for Astrolux S42 this weekend, not sure if it has the stuff to replace the E11. Not many people like it, GUI and efficiency issues as it has.
how did you manage to activate the high mode , not for one click ?? but for 2 click.s ??
The new UI allows you to program any of it's 12 possible brightness modes to whatever click you want. I assigned the Highest brightness possible to M1.
Been looking at this one a few times now, that interface has me tempted every time I looked at it but I'm trying to refrain from ordering until an 18650 one with it comes along. Preferably in the sc63 form factor but sc600 will do if I have to.
As for the batteries used by Zebralight, their product page does state it over here: www.zebralight.com/SC5c-Mk-II-AA-Flashlight-Neutral-White-High-CRI_p_192.html
"Light output are ANSI out the front (OTF) values. Runtimes tested (and parasitic drain estimated) using Panasonic Eneloop Pro AA batteries. Remaining battery power, about 10-20%, after step-down are not counted towards the runtimes."
And your story about the long replacement shipping time makes me happy about that one time I had an issue with one I bought through nkon.nl they were quick with a return shipping label to put on a box and had the replacement within a week. It was some strange malfunction with the high mode freaking out after a while of being on and other weird intermittent issues with brightness levels in general when stepping through the modes with press and hold.
When this makes it to the 18650 models with a PID though, I somehow think people will go even more crazy about the user interface description if you add how to adjust the max temperature the PID will allow. I think it was having it in H1 before turning it off, turning it on in H1 and going through the modes from on by pressing + holding the button 5 or 6 times and then releasing it on low, medium or high. Low to lower it by 1 degree, medium to reset it to default and high to raise it by 1 degree. Pretty sure the maximum deviation from factory it allows is 5 degrees celsius.
Yeah... their customer service leaves a bit to be desired (Zebralights). Good to know about them using the pros. That means that some of the runtimes, that are already better than Zebralights would be even better.
Was watching the video again, that stood out at 1:20 this isn't the polished stainless steel clip I'm used to on the older sc52, sc62 and sc63 models. These new ones are black, not sure how I feel about that the initial look is fine but my experience with black clips on torches/knives is that usually over time you'll wear off the coating/paint/whatever and its sometimes just better to start with a piece of polished or satin finish steel.
The shape is different too with a large amount being removed material in the middle near the attachment point for older ones where it flexes, instead it now has 3 holes that get smaller towards the head. Different fasteners as well based on the scale I'd say probably a T6 or T7 if the attachment base is still equally wide, the old ones used philips head screws.
The sc600 clips will normally be like the deeper carry ones you referred to, those have been unchanged in my experience so far with the sc600w mk2, s600w mk3, sc600w hi intensity mk3, sc600Fd mk3 plus. I hope they won't change those and I'm not sure if I like the change in the smaller models. I wonder what they'll put on a sc62/sc63 form factor with the new UI eventually, using a T6 or T7 fastener screw is an improvement though in my opinion since they hold up a bit better than a regular philips.
Btw something I'm really curious about, does the new SC5c have any improvement in being able to judge battery state of charge? I've owned (and still got some) of the AA/14500 based models and they are all terrible at judging the state of charge. Fresh from the charger 4 flashes, little bit of use 3 flashes, way more than half left and you get 2 or 1 flash already. I know its difficult to judge the state of charge of NiMH based on open cell or low load voltage which you can get away with on lithium ion batteries, but it has always really annoyed me the days I had limited pocket space and used my sc52w or the h52Fw that's in my backpack.
Manker T01 ii is 500 lumens using AA battery. Cheaper than ZL.
Thats a nice one too. Although it looks like the performance on an eneloop has been tested to be less than what I tested... and it doesn't have proper moonlight levels. Not a bad light though.
budgetlightforum.com/node/42713
Advanced Knife Bro I have a EDC Thrunite Archer 1A V3, would the 14500 batteries make it a little brighter than the eneloop I have in it now?
For your Thrunite yes. 14500s will make it brighter. They will damage this Zebralight though.
Advanced Knife Bro Thanks for the reply 👍🏻 good video, as always
Is it just me or is the bitrate of this Video very low?
But anyway good review as always!
+chaot45 sometimes it takes several days for all resolutions of the video to clear up. I've found sometimes switching to a different resolution clears those artifacts up. Try 720p
it looks like there's a film on the lens ?? it looks blurry
Yeah... the file I uploaded doesn't look like that. It looks pretty bad on all of the UA-cam versions for me. These videos have a lot of black areas in them, and compression looks worst there. Next time I do a flashlight review I'll render it in a h264 version thats smaller and upload that. I normally upload in prores... which is about 8 GB for a video this long.
6:35 programming modes. (mainly for when I come back here in a years time wondering how that was done)
Far too complicated for me. how hard can it be to make rotary selectors?
Check out the Sunwayman V11R. I used to have this as my EDC but lost it. This has lower moonlights and a neutral tint, so I've stuck with it.
Bro when are you going to get the new SC600 MK IV Plus and make a hella lit video ?
I've had it for months- and made part of the video but never finished it. The way those time lapse videos rekt my camera, and all the writing down numbers and math and shit- I just don't like doing them anymore. The internet likes long flashlight videos where people set their camera to auto- and don't test them I guess. My 15 hours spent on each video gets the same amount of views a person who spends 15 minutes makes. I might finish this video this year... but in all honestly- the IV is like the III except with that SC5 new UI. It's great and if you've watched my mk III video and the SC5 Mk II video- it's like a combination of those two. My favorite EDC. End of review.
Advanced Knife Bro 'woah! This thing is brighter than the previous model. Check out my video of the previous model !' End of review
I love your videos but I have a recommendation. Have you thought about separating the programming/light test from your reviews, like nick shabaz does his tear down of knives in different videos from the knife reviews? I really appreciate your opinion on things and humor but 16+ minutes for a flashlight review is a bit much. If I ended up buying one of these lights I'd love to have a video of you breaking down the settings and the lumen values you get but don't really need to see it in a review.
I have sort of thought about this. Let me play the Devils advocate though- many of nick Shabazz's and many other reviewers knife reviews continue into the 15-25 minute territory on just a single knife. A knife. Flashlights are inherently more complex- and just by function my testing takes those past a short review. Many table top reviews make flashlight reviews much longer than my videos, and they include no testing. My knife reviews and flashlight reviews are generally shorter and more comprehensive and take longer to produce than nearly all other internet reviewers. Which is why I use many camera set-ups, humor, jokes, and more to try and keep them moving along fast.
I know it's a long video- but your request is probably the only I have gotten in a year and a half. I have thought about it... and I see my analytical show most people only watch 3-5 minutes in, on average. So it's a valid criticism. But youtube also rewards for longer videos... which is why you have knife guys reading catalogs for half an hour for the camera. So the answer is No, I am not going to do that now. But the good news is, I only have one flashlight review coming up in the middle of next month... and I'm not planning on any more for a while. So hopefully that helps! Honestly, you can get all you need to know by reading the manufacturers product page... and if you don't like doing that- there are dudes who unbox flashlights for about 5 minutes- you might get what you need from that.
ua-cam.com/video/fxq1lcjMRlI/v-deo.html
Thanks for taking the time to make such a detailed response. I can definitely see your reasoning though. I'm really into flash lights and knives, like every other IPA drinking knife bro so I'm going to continue watching your videos and supporting your channel regardless of the time length of your posts. I was just giving some feedback and didn't know if it had occurred to you/come up before.
No problem! Believe me though... I have thought about just making shorter reviews for a while- mostly because of what my analytics tell me. I've actually improved my videos over the years because of viewer requests. The beamshots got better because of comparisons, the runtimes got better because of the lux meter, I've tried to sound more enthusiastic... etc. Believe it or not, I have had people on several occasions say they prefer my longer reviews- I'm not sure why- but they do.
And another thing I kind of hate about UA-cam... is how people milk a single product. They can make 3 10-15 minute videos off a single whatever... and I don't like that. Those videos are often padded and cover the same ground... and I prefer to make one slightly longer, but better review. I know this is more than you wanted to hear about this... but it's something I often think about, when wondering why I don't have a larger audience.
How would rate the Klarus Mi7 in camparison?
A lot of people like that one. It has only 3 modes 5 lumens/90 lumens/ 330 lumens (700 on 14500). But I have not been interested in it because of the large mode spacing and lack of a sub lumen mode. It can accept 14500 though, so it can be brighter than the Zebralight. If you're not concerned by low end mode spacing or low modes, then this is a fine choice.
I think you would get much higher runtimes if you used the Eneloop Pros; probably will be close to Zebralight's ratings.
Yep.
AKB if your every in Oklahoma, stop by and have a Beer
Will do!
So basically it's easier to program a Terminator than a Zebralight?
Maybe!
are you sure none of the 18650 lights use this new UI configuration?
+ignus16 yes I'm sure. They've not released any new 18650 lights this year. Unless it's hidden in firmware somewhere
i guess i was wondering if they update the firmware mid production or only when they bring out new models but it looks like you are right.. i guess ill just wait for the next 18650 refresh. i got the H53Fc a while ago and cant get over how good it is..
also, your videos are fantastic - keep up the good work!!
+ignus16 thanks man! I follow the zebralight thread over on CPf fairly regularly- and I haven't heard a rumbling that any 18650s have it. Also there's a Zebralight google docs spreadsheet... it shows upcoming lights. Just google zebralight spreadsheet and you can probably find it.
Is that a brown (beige) 03 CRV?
Si!
But Is it full tang?
+ropes channel full tang and fully assisted!
I watched this whole video to help pump your stats. And because I have no friends...well...except for Larry. But I only keep Larry around because I have no real friends.
Larry sounds like a decent dude. Does he drink your beer?
Have your neighbors ever asked why you always run around your yard at night with flashlights like a crazy person?
+Arnold Lalchan Not yet! We don't talk to the neighbors much.
It's amazing how in the last few years how the flashlight industry has exploded, thanks to the led
+Otis Cobblepot it's like the knife industry and it's "super steels"
Advanced Knife Bro Overrated super steels. When they figure out adamantium then i'm all in.
How to set the click switching?
I don't know what the click switching is?
sorry for my bad English, i just wanna know how to change the lumen setting of short and long press
You have to go into G6 or G7. So click 6 times from off to go to G6... Then turn on your light in the mode you want to reassign. Double click 6 times... then you get to programming. then you go up in brightness by double clicks, down in brightness with triple clicks. Then press once to save the programming for that level. Hope that helps!
Oh i did it, big thanks.
Man... You lost me at all the mods... I like boring looking knives, and 3 mods is all I need in a flashlight. I`m simple like that. Great vid though.
Well it basically is three modes. Quick press to turbo. Long press to low. Double press to medium. One press to off.
5.7 inches long, 3 inch head!?! That's what she said.
DAMMIT: 3.8 in (9.65cm). Everything else should be erect.
Their next model will have a Siri-style interface where you just tell the flashlight how you want it to behave in complete sentences using Morse Code.
Algorithm.
But it has strobe which is available for idiots, I will let him keep this, I'll buy another one which has strobe, but one that is available for everyone not only idiots.