My issue with Raquel is why does she keep running to Ally about her past relationship problems with James? It’s not appropriate. You broke up with him (for good reason), what he does now is his business
My husbands ex wife did this all the time. I had to ask her to stop and that’s when I found out how she was talking about me to my husband. We both had to talk with her to stop. She’s still in love with him.
She was definitely trying to sabotage James' new relationship. She didn't want to see him move on even tho she had, even when they were together. James has looked good from all this.
I get where Katie is coming from. Why scheana telling her business to her Ex. Like ok be his friend but keep what I tell u under wraps. Then pushing a friend to hook up with her ex within the same group. Scheana needs to chill..
I'm sorry I don't see the hype in James music and Tom introduced him to his friend he says one of sickest DJ out there not ... Especially when he said gogoggogogo I said I can't I mean they're really turned up !!!!.🤣🤣🤣😅🗣️ CALIFORNIA ♥️😎
@@kathiesullivan2543 Very well said. Scheana extremely nasty. I couldn't believe all the questions she had for Schwartz during that podcast. She exploited him and Katie's divorce to get numbers for her podcast. Shady AF!!
Katie sat by or participated in making fun of Scheana for the way she dressed, who she dated, laughed when she tried a singing career, and tore her down over and over. Now Katie is demanding respect from Schena? Schena should not be medaling in her business. She is wrong for that, but Katie has been wrong for being a mean girl to her for years. Neither are right, maybe if everyone was a little nicer to each other they wouldn’t find themselves in these situations.
Well, Sheena sometimes gets into people's business. Even her husband tried to check her tonight, "Honey!" She likes drama for her podcast... but yeah, Katie has been mean to her. I suspect Scheana is pissed Katie and Ariana are close.
I mean pretty sure sheana continues to get paid for being a shit stirrer so can't totally blame her on that front. But otherwise totally agree with everything in the comment above.
Good points... I never thought Scheana was innocent myself. She's a meddler and tends to talk too much (yet I still really like her). That gets back to people. Katie can definitely be rude but she's real. Scheana has made some rude comments about Katie lately and wonders why Katie's mean.
Also la la being a total hypocrite saying she wouldn’t every do something hypothetical but she actually slept with James while they were both in relationships is just ridiculous
I can understand why Katie is worried about people taking sides and then siding with Schwartz… but that is her own doing. She’s never been nice, friendly or understanding. She’s been ruthless to most of the group. He may be a bit of an idiot but he’s not mean like her. Of course people would pick him!
Katie changed from tequila Katie and it's not do what u do to me, it's do unto others, Sheana was Katie's bridesmaid, so it was forgiven, and don't bring it up now, that's not how u evolve and grow , I'm with Katie on this one, Sheana should stay out of it,imo
@@smittsgirl2 If Scheana is still holding a grudge, she def shouldn’t pretend to be Katie’s friend. Katie was a B***H! Only outdone by Stassi, and thank goodness she’s gone. Katie is dead weight here. She can go.
Katie isnt but they made a deal not to hookup with people within their friend group which is totally understandable bc that would be like a slap in the face. Granted Schwartz is the one who should mostly be at fault but after Raquel was at the dinner with Katie and Lala and knows how she felt and with Scheana trying to make something happen between them and chalking it up to Tom has to move on and acting like him hooking up with Raquel is the same as him hooking up with a stranger is bs. And using 1 drunken conversation with Katie as a justification is total bs. I mean what if Katie tried to hook Shay up with one of Scheana's friend after their divorce. So although Tom is mainly at fault, Katie also has every right to be pissed at Scheana and Raquel also for their meddling and using her divorce to give themselves screen time.
@@michaeldefeo1439 I can’t stand Scheana. I agree with everything you stated. Katie and Tom are in a good place and Scheana would be SO PISSED if the tables were turned. She is not a likable person. I’m hoping we don’t see much of her and Brock this season.
@@oceancat0450 i agree plus something everyone seems to overlook is this, Scheana is friends with James also, so why would she claim to only did what she did bc Katie was "okay with it and encouraged it" but she never checked with James? I think that says it all. Plus all guilty parties are all just gonna use that one drunken conversation with Katie as justification for everything when in reality any person with common sense would have told their friend what they were saying the night before while drunk and would have followed up with them about it the next day to make sure they spoke to them about it with a level head. But not Scheana she hears one drunken conversation from Katie and runs with it.
Leigh, I like your spin on just about everything! Exactly how I feel about the Pump “kids!” I use “kids” bc seems none of them ever matured past 19 years old. Making childish decisions in mature adult situations. Bad form @Toms.
Both Tom's treated Katie like crap, and Katie didn't act any worse than anyone else on that show. Swartz act of being so sweet and innocent is getting old, he is just as much of a problem as Katie.
Raquel is lucky to escape. James is a cheater and will always be a cheater. Raquel is gorgeous. She didn't deserve that. Now she's reacting to James' new gf by being loose. Move on girl. He was not worth your time. Date anyone else besides this toxic friend group. James needs to be with lala.
Raquel is no better. Since James, she's been on a couple of dates with Peter, made out with Oliver (who's still legally married) and has hooked up with BOTH Toms.
Scheana and Katie are friends but not friends . Katie was and is horrible to Scheana . Katie wants to control the narrative yet this is Karma for Katie.
The rest of the girls treated Sheena the same way, it wasn't only Katie, it's just that she's the only one left on the show. Sheena was a people pleaser, now she has Brook, and acts like him
@yvonnepingleton5063 I like Sheena. What she did was too mean girl and butting in for me tonight. I'd expect it from Katie or Stacci, but I expect Sheena to be nicer.
@@JAZZnMOTION Katie and Swartz, couple or not, I couldn't imagine if Katie did the same thing to Sheena if the situation arises. Sheena and Swartz were never even close as friends, so it's blatantly clear that Sheena is trying to hurt Katie. So that makes Sheena a shit, it's not a wonder that Katie blew her top. It was warranted in that situation, and I'm not saying that Katie doesn't act terrible in situations, but Sheena deserved a lashing for this
@@JAZZnMOTION Sheena totally knew Katie wasn't fine w having her dating life exposed or Katie would have done it. Even Brock checked her, "Honey!" That's called fishing for content and airtime. Thirsty AF.
Exactly. Do we think for a second that Katie wouldn’t bring a new love to group settings because of respect for Tom? No way! I think what she said as she was leaving that they were “trying to tear us apart”…no that has already been done. The papers have been signed. She loves seeing Tom weekly in their shared custody of the dogs. She loves that Schwartz still called her Bubba. She wants her cake and to eat it too. Schwartz deserves to be able to move on too. There is no such thing as a good divorce. At some point it will be kind of ugly. And I think Schwartz is so much of a marshmallow and avoider of drama that she hasn’t felt it yet. He also took a very passive stance when she was yelling at him when she was confronting him. He even flinched a number of times like an abused pet or child takes when they feel like they are about to get struck. Katie is mean, and an even meaner drunk. I think he is scared of her.
I get where Scheana is coming from saying that for a long time, she was made to feel unwelcome and most the time by Katie. Fair play, it’s her time to now have the shoe on the other foot and I get why she doesn’t feel too bad - having been treated like crap by most those girls for years
Schenna choose to kiss the rings at the time, so now that she wants to hurt them back it makes her look childish and petty, because they have all gotten older and moved on. It's a little too late, and it makes her look bad.
@@yvonnepingleton5063 it does for sure Also sidenote. Shes dated a married man so even worse than Raquel. & she should understand that ppl grow/ chg. for that reason alone I knew that Ariana and Katie's friendship was going to piss her off fr the first time they mentioned sandwich shop
I think Katie just hates the idea that she can’t control Tom anymore. If Tom gets any new girlfriend it will be in her face because Tom and Tom are the main friends in the group. There will come a time when his future girl won’t love having Katie glare at them the whole time in group settings and Katey won’t be invited to group activities anymore.
Katie is far too controlling. Her and Schwartz are divorced, she no longer gets to dictate to him. He chose to go on Scheana's podcast and to mention his divorce. No one forced him to and he has every right to make those choices. Like wise who he chooses to hook up with or otherwise get involved with, it is no longer any of Katie's business.
12yrs together still deserves some sort of respect. Tom is a man child and thinks b/c he plays all coy that he’ll get away with anything. Scheana medaling in a divorce is none of her business. It’s not her job to find him a mate. Especially setting him up with their coworker Raquel. This is all conveniently opportunistic of Scheana at their expense.
@@lucy.loo84 Maybe but he should no longer have to live his life according to what Katie wants. Respect is a two way street and she should respect the fact that he is now free to do as he wants. Just as she is free to do what she wants without having to factor in Tom's feelings or wishes.
I think the problem stems from the fact that Katie and Tom privately had a grown up conversation where they both agreed to try to be friends post divorce and to be respectful of each other enough not to mess around within their close circle of friends. If they had that conversation and Schwartz told her no, that she can’t control him and he can do whatever he wants that would’ve set Katie up to really understand that he’s going to do what he’s going to do without regard for her. But the fact is that he agreed with her about wanting to remain friends and not mess around within the friend group. So of course Katie then has expectations that Schwartz is going to act a certain way. It’s another classic move of Schwartz trying to be a people pleaser to avoid conflict when really he is creating conflict because of his inability to stand up for himself and say what he means.
So clearly Scheana has been holding a grudge all this time. In the beginning yes they weren't great to her cause she was new, that wasn't ok. But since then how people have treated her has been a direct result from her own behavior
Ugh! James is so awkward! He wants to throw everything in Raquel’s face & break her. It’s sickening! He is an abuser, in every sense of the word! Remember he “bumped” her nose? Even there! Told that(and many other) lies! He also seems quite coked out! Anyone else noticing these things about that shallow, arrogant, Nepo-Baby, loser? As you might be able to tell, I can’t stand him! 😂😂😂 My heart breaks for Raquel. She is doubting her self worth, more than ever! We know she already had serious, self esteem issues……. Now she is definitely suffering from a deep depression! Poor girl…. 💔💔💔 Also- what is going on with Ariana? I love her so much! This season she seems to be faking it- BIG TIME!!! Her smiles seems almost robotic. Worried about her, too! Love my VPR & Bravo!
I hoped for years he wouldn't be asked back. He was so thirsty to get in their friends group and used Kristen to do it. Now I'm finally used to him. Was bummed Rachel isn't in school for working w kids as she planned. This money and show will run its course.
Katie was SO mean to both Scheana and Raquel and made them feel like outcasts so I have no sympathy for her. She tries to act like she’s for women empowerment but she does not practice what she preaches.
Let’s be honest. Katie isn’t dipping into the friend pool because who would have her?! Her personality is disastrously narcissistic and needy/insecure all at once. Plus who’s really left? 😂😂😂
All the women on that show have acted out constantly, so singling out Katie is reaching. Swartz isn't worth the trouble that he causes, he's a man child that needs a babysitter. He gets away with his crap because he acts stupid and clueless
Ugh Katie reminds me of a giant adult baby. Like still yelling at and standing near your ex husband?? It’s pathetic. And I’d usually be like “let’s see where she’s coming from”, but with Katie, enoughs enough.
Lololol at Raquel telling her to keep an eye open. She obviously has her eyes opened to sleeping with almost every guy on the show in the bar/restaurant lolol 😂
Raquel is doing what I wish I did when I left my narcissist and I should’ve listen to his ex wife telling me he ran her over. She’s not creepy she’s not obsessed and I promise after this girl she won’t care about his life anymore. It’s so fresh and she knows the girl is in for trouble
If not for criticizing her ex, what purpose does Raquel serve on this season? Raquel admitted that she stayed with Kennedy because she didn't want to disappoint.... Like who? You're supposed to make YOU, happy, Miss Thang If it wasn't for the last 2 years with her boyfriend, what was her purpose on the show? So now, Raquel is tasked with creating drama by spreading her experience with Kennedy, in order to make herself RELEVANT. SAD.
Lines don’t have to be drawn; They all were friends before they got married/ divorced. Raquel needs to stop talking to James’ friends, wtf go hang with your own friends 😂 Tom is an excellent performer 👍🏾👍🏾
Katie explicitly says that she knows people are going to choose Schwartz's side over hers--and the fact that that doesn't make her question her own behavior--is SUPER scary.
Katie never should have pressured Tom to marry her. He lost the marriage license (twice!) However, the guy barely ever stood up for her. Lazy and neglectful.
@@blumaroo feeling like that is a good sign youre in a competitive and comparative situation, been there before its best to leave but they both seemed competitive
The was Tom was wincing when Katie was yelling at him, was really verbally abusive. They can’t be friend. They need to move on from each other. Katie has always been verbally abusive.
I can't believe that I'm feeling bad for Katie but I do. She has actively bullied many of the members of the cast including Tom and then cried and played the victim when they fat shamed her or said that she should mind her own business. Scheana, James, the Toms and Lala would be fools to fully trust her after her campaigns to take them down. Most of them only tolerated her antics for Tom's sake. Kristen, Stassi and Brittany are gone and she doesn't really have any close ties.
Katie said she was seeing other people and she didn't care what Tom does! The dear friend Lala sits there and says she was doing Raquels boyfriend and that's ok! Lala has been doing everyone's person and Katie thinks that's ok but not for her ex husband to find a person he enjoys, friend or not. Bye Katie cry baby!
Katie divorced Tom and keeps trying to control him, who he dates and who he is friend with. I can’t believe how explosive and demanding she still is with Tom .She is going to keep doing it until Tom puts a stop on her. Raquel needs to move on too but at least she admitted she still has feelings for Kennedy. Sometimes for your own good you need to leave the person you love because is toxic for your life but the problem is when the other person moves on but you not
I still can’t get over the fact that Schwartz chose Sandoval over Katie…. Then Sandoval starts a new band putting Schwartz in more debt and a divorce. Stupid choice Schwartz. STUPID!!! “Was it worth it?” I agree with Ariana!!! WHY does Schwartz always get off scotch free and he’s always seen as the sweet laid-back, stupid guy?? I’m so over it! Over him
Very well said. All of it. Schwartz's routine of ..... I don't know....I guess....I'm innocent....what do you want me to say... I'm over Schwartz. Getting annoying AF. Most of all, I hated the way he never defended Katie when Sandoval went on the attack on her. Dude, that's your wife!
This is all so true. He's a 6 stellum in Libra w NO fire or earth to give him some oomph! Judge Judy is a 5 stellum in Libra, but I suspect an Aries Ascedant and possibly Moon because she's not sitting on no fences.
Definitely Tom Sandoval!!! I understand that you need to have confidence in yourself, but dude takes that self-confidence to a whole nother level.💯👁️🗨️♾️
That band is just... a joke and complete waste of money. He neglected the business for months and wasted Tom's money too. So much for "I bring money into your household"...
I like Raquel and I know she will get over James but…girl…please talking to your ex girlfriend about your ex I get it you try to warn her but enough already!
You realize the Producers make Racquel talk to Ally. Right? And how anyone can say the slightest thing negative towards/about Racquel? James Kennedy is an absolute TRASH piece of classic, masculine (wannabe) toxicity! Ugh! He is the most narcissistic, indulgent, NEPO baby- his godfather was George Michael- shallow person on the planet! And the way he treats women- and other men, quite frankly- is abhorrent! Racquel seems to be the type to truly worry about other people….. almost to the point of being an empath. Plus- Producers are DEFINITELY making this happen. 😂😂😂 (I wasn’t trying to come for you, in this comment, btw. I was coming for James Kennedy. He’s so narcissistic he probably looks for every comment with his name in it, on Bravo things! 😂😂😂 Just kidding about the last part. But only love & light towards you! Sorry if it came off otherwise. Wanted to express that, after looking at what I’d typed. 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼)
Katie made a whole career being a bully and maliciously meddling in the lives and relationships of Sheana, Lala, and whoever looked in her direction, so its a bit hypocritical for her to tell someone else to stay out of her business. She is a walking contradiction
Raquel becoming less likable with each episode. I like James new gf more. It doesn’t help that she is Scheana’s minion. Scheana will always have that thirsty mistress mentality. She hasn’t grown as all and really wouldn’t be missed if she was off the show.
I read somewhere about how peak fame can emotionally stunt someone (i.e. Britney Spears) so it toooooootally makes sense for a lof of these kids on VR to essentially be stalled at season 1. It makes me wonder once the show stops, do they then progress?
She does getting all in Tom and Katie's business. I always found her likable but thirsty. I am happy but surprised she found someone who really likes her. Thirst usually repels men.
I haven’t watched VPR in years. Without the “main OGs” but nothings been keeping my attention so I randomly turned the new season on. It’s not BAD. It’s not amazing either, but it’s entertaining. I was CRINGING at LaLa on the double date with Katie. She had 0 game. I’m in her age and situation though. I’d probably be awkward too, but I would NOT be as awkward as she was. 😂 I really like Raquel this season. It’s her time to shine, I suppose and she’s doing well. Katie seems really cool this season too. Glad this season does not suck (so far) like last season did. CRINGE.
My biggest issue with Katie as well as Lala is that they have a complex of thinking and believing they are always in the right! I mean they've been rude, out right horrible to each and every person in the group at some point but still expect to be treated well and in a friendly manner, I mean!?! Where's all the growth Lala keeps talking about in her sit down interviews 🙂
I wish Sandoval could really understand how bad his vocals suck without thinking people are just " haters".... The people who love him are failing him by not telling him the truth.
It appears Schenna is Tom friend not Katie friend… Katie and Schenna could be friends but Schenna low key resents Katie because of the past conflict between them.
Sandoval I heard you finally got signed!! I am so excited. You have a great talent. I wasn't sure at first but you paid your dues and are a bright star ready to break the sky! Congrats and best of luck to you!🩷🔥
Raquel will look back on this one day and cringe like hell, because let’s be honest, NOTHING is attractive about James Kennedy at all, like zero! He’s a manchild inside and out!
I agree Katie has been a bully trying to run the whole group for years on this show.. And Schenana she was the single one out the group they definitely isolated her and made her feel like the odd man out in any setting it was always drama with her about something and she really never did anything..
She’s never getting JAMES BACK. EVEN IF SHE SLEEPS WITH THE WHOLE CAST AND EVERYONE AT THE RESTAURANT. BYEEEEEE RACHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!! BYE!! PUT AN EASY PASS ON IT….DORINDA WORDS. 😂😂😂😂
@@lillyrose3545 EXACTLY! Why has that been swept under the rug so much?!? I looked up the police report and read the transcript of the conversation. Those two should have been prosecuted. Period! That was HORRIBLE!!!
It’s so weird that Rachel wants to talk to Ali all the time about how James cheated on her, while cheating with Tom. It’s bizarre.
My issue with Raquel is why does she keep running to Ally about her past relationship problems with James? It’s not appropriate. You broke up with him (for good reason), what he does now is his business
My husbands ex wife did this all the time. I had to ask her to stop and that’s when I found out how she was talking about me to my husband. We both had to talk with her to stop. She’s still in love with him.
Because the producers 100% set her up to it. It's what the show is about
She was trying to create a distraction.
So, Raquel was messing around with Sanavol on the DL when she spoke to Ally! Such an actress!
She was definitely trying to sabotage James' new relationship. She didn't want to see him move on even tho she had, even when they were together. James has looked good from all this.
Raquel clearly walked into this season like F*CK my reputation, gimme all the clout 🤣
Seriously that new gf looks like his Mom statement had me 💀 Her standing up to both Lala and Katie like girl....
She's is definitely not walking off the season the same. She sure did F*CK up her reputation. Pretty sure her "clout" is gone too.
@@johnene seriously!! Little did I know at the time I posted this comment 🤣🤣🤣
Little did you know how right you were 😂.
@@christinajackson6309 💯🤣
I get where Katie is coming from. Why scheana telling her business to her Ex. Like ok be his friend but keep what I tell u under wraps. Then pushing a friend to hook up with her ex within the same group. Scheana needs to chill..
They all hooked up to the group. Not a new thing.
Just because Swartz acts stupid and clueless doesn't make him innocent in some of the problems that arise with him and the others.
I don't think he's very deep
Right?!
He must be infuriating to be in an adult relationship with.
Well cheating would be a big problem.
Absolutely. nobody made him do or say anything.
Scheana has forever been the thirstiest, but Raquel has taken that crown this season.
Yes!!
bad take. raquel is for once being herself. why shame that? but i guess pot meet kettle
I can’t believe how nasty Raquel has become. She knows exactly what she’s doing.
I'm sorry I don't see the hype in James music and Tom introduced him to his friend he says one of sickest DJ out there not ... Especially when he said gogoggogogo I said I can't I mean they're really turned up !!!!.🤣🤣🤣😅🗣️ CALIFORNIA ♥️😎
@@kathiesullivan2543 Very well said. Scheana extremely nasty. I couldn't believe all the questions she had for Schwartz during that podcast.
She exploited him and Katie's divorce to get numbers for her podcast. Shady AF!!
James comment about Raquel not giving OS. Ally RUN.
I've always had a soft spot for him, but I think he's ruined for me forever now. That was AWFUL.
@@julsmcgee9346 same, like wth that was such an awful comment, didn't expect that from him
Katie sat by or participated in making fun of Scheana for the way she dressed, who she dated, laughed when she tried a singing career, and tore her down over and over. Now Katie is demanding respect from Schena? Schena should not be medaling in her business. She is wrong for that, but Katie has been wrong for being a mean girl to her for years. Neither are right, maybe if everyone was a little nicer to each other they wouldn’t find themselves in these situations.
Well, Sheena sometimes gets into people's business. Even her husband tried to check her tonight, "Honey!" She likes drama for her podcast... but yeah, Katie has been mean to her. I suspect Scheana is pissed Katie and Ariana are close.
I mean pretty sure sheana continues to get paid for being a shit stirrer so can't totally blame her on that front. But otherwise totally agree with everything in the comment above.
Katie needs to sit down cuz she’s not cute
Good points... I never thought Scheana was innocent myself. She's a meddler and tends to talk too much (yet I still really like her). That gets back to people.
Katie can definitely be rude but she's real. Scheana has made some rude comments about Katie lately and wonders why Katie's mean.
@@FlowerChild-Tiktok They are not married 12 years. only 2 or 3 years.
Also la la being a total hypocrite saying she wouldn’t every do something hypothetical but she actually slept with James while they were both in relationships is just ridiculous
I can understand why Katie is worried about people taking sides and then siding with Schwartz… but that is her own doing. She’s never been nice, friendly or understanding. She’s been ruthless to most of the group. He may be a bit of an idiot but he’s not mean like her. Of course people would pick him!
Katie changed from tequila Katie and it's not do what u do to me, it's do unto others, Sheana was Katie's bridesmaid, so it was forgiven, and don't bring it up now, that's not how u evolve and grow , I'm with Katie on this one, Sheana should stay out of it,imo
Nah.
That's not at the core of the issue here.
@@smittsgirl2 If Scheana is still holding a grudge, she def shouldn’t pretend to be Katie’s friend. Katie was a B***H! Only outdone by Stassi, and thank goodness she’s gone. Katie is dead weight here. She can go.
I'd def pick Swartz. Katie's been a bully almost every season.
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Sandoval thinking he's bon jovi or some shit like that lol..😂😂😂😂
Dude Raquel needs to stop. You broke up with him. Also Katie needs to stop controlling Tom… you divorced him lol
Katie isnt but they made a deal not to hookup with people within their friend group which is totally understandable bc that would be like a slap in the face. Granted Schwartz is the one who should mostly be at fault but after Raquel was at the dinner with Katie and Lala and knows how she felt and with Scheana trying to make something happen between them and chalking it up to Tom has to move on and acting like him hooking up with Raquel is the same as him hooking up with a stranger is bs. And using 1 drunken conversation with Katie as a justification is total bs. I mean what if Katie tried to hook Shay up with one of Scheana's friend after their divorce. So although Tom is mainly at fault, Katie also has every right to be pissed at Scheana and Raquel also for their meddling and using her divorce to give themselves screen time.
Well said
@@michaeldefeo1439
I can’t stand Scheana. I agree with everything you stated.
Katie and Tom are in a good place and Scheana would be SO PISSED if the tables were turned. She is not a likable person.
I’m hoping we don’t see much of her and Brock this season.
@@oceancat0450 i agree plus something everyone seems to overlook is this, Scheana is friends with James also, so why would she claim to only did what she did bc Katie was "okay with it and encouraged it" but she never checked with James? I think that says it all. Plus all guilty parties are all just gonna use that one drunken conversation with Katie as justification for everything when in reality any person with common sense would have told their friend what they were saying the night before while drunk and would have followed up with them about it the next day to make sure they spoke to them about it with a level head. But not Scheana she hears one drunken conversation from Katie and runs with it.
Leigh, I like your spin on just about everything! Exactly how I feel about the Pump “kids!” I use “kids” bc seems none of them ever matured past 19 years old. Making childish decisions in mature adult situations. Bad form @Toms.
Both Tom's treated Katie like crap, and Katie didn't act any worse than anyone else on that show. Swartz act of being so sweet and innocent is getting old, he is just as much of a problem as Katie.
He needs to stop talking with his hands over his mouth.
She's treated them both equally crappy. She can't control Tom never could so don't try now!
Raquel is lucky to escape. James is a cheater and will always be a cheater. Raquel is gorgeous. She didn't deserve that. Now she's reacting to James' new gf by being loose. Move on girl. He was not worth your time. Date anyone else besides this toxic friend group. James needs to be with lala.
Being loose? ….
“She didn’t deserve that” didn’t age well as of today now did it …. 😆
Raquel is no better. Since James, she's been on a couple of dates with Peter, made out with Oliver (who's still legally married) and has hooked up with BOTH Toms.
Gotta admire Sandoval for doing his thing , he has carried “lazy” Schwartz all these yrs so good to see him treat himself
I saw someone calling Schwartz the weaker Tom😭
On twitter
Agreed! Good for him
Hilarious 😆 😅🤣🤣
Katie only cares about having more people on her side of the lines being drawn 😏
It’s like stassi is still on katies shoulder… no growth. And the double standards are ridiculous! She gets what she puts herself through!
Scheana and Katie are friends but not friends . Katie was and is horrible to Scheana . Katie wants to control the narrative yet this is Karma for Katie.
The rest of the girls treated Sheena the same way, it wasn't only Katie, it's just that she's the only one left on the show. Sheena was a people pleaser, now she has Brook, and acts like him
@yvonnepingleton5063 I like Sheena. What she did was too mean girl and butting in for me tonight. I'd expect it from Katie or Stacci, but I expect Sheena to be nicer.
AND let’s add Schena ASKED her and she said it’s fine so wtf
@@JAZZnMOTION Katie and Swartz, couple or not, I couldn't imagine if Katie did the same thing to Sheena if the situation arises. Sheena and Swartz were never even close as friends, so it's blatantly clear that Sheena is trying to hurt Katie. So that makes Sheena a shit, it's not a wonder that Katie blew her top. It was warranted in that situation, and I'm not saying that Katie doesn't act terrible in situations, but Sheena deserved a lashing for this
@@JAZZnMOTION Sheena totally knew Katie wasn't fine w having her dating life exposed or Katie would have done it. Even Brock checked her, "Honey!" That's called fishing for content and airtime. Thirsty AF.
The reason there she’s not dipping into the friend group is because there’s no one to go after ….
Exactly. Do we think for a second that Katie wouldn’t bring a new love to group settings because of respect for Tom? No way!
I think what she said as she was leaving that they were “trying to tear us apart”…no that has already been done. The papers have been signed. She loves seeing Tom weekly in their shared custody of the dogs. She loves that Schwartz still called her Bubba. She wants her cake and to eat it too. Schwartz deserves to be able to move on too.
There is no such thing as a good divorce. At some point it will be kind of ugly. And I think Schwartz is so much of a marshmallow and avoider of drama that she hasn’t felt it yet. He also took a very passive stance when she was yelling at him when she was confronting him. He even flinched a number of times like an abused pet or child takes when they feel like they are about to get struck. Katie is mean, and an even meaner drunk. I think he is scared of her.
Katie wanted something from Tom he NEVER gave and that’s what annoys me he’s NEVER been an alpha protector type so it’s crazy she expected that
Don’t have to be alpha to stick up for your partner
Katie demanded too much, but did nothing for Tom.
I get where Scheana is coming from saying that for a long time, she was made to feel unwelcome and most the time by Katie. Fair play, it’s her time to now have the shoe on the other foot and I get why she doesn’t feel too bad - having been treated like crap by most those girls for years
She should've stopped being fake friends with Katie a long time ago is she felt that way..she's not justified in telling Katie business to her ex
Exactly!
She harbors deep grudges and current jealousy towards Katie. .
Schenna choose to kiss the rings at the time, so now that she wants to hurt them back it makes her look childish and petty, because they have all gotten older and moved on. It's a little too late, and it makes her look bad.
@@yvonnepingleton5063 it does for sure
Also sidenote. Shes dated a married man so even worse than Raquel. & she should understand that ppl grow/ chg. for that reason alone
I knew that Ariana and Katie's friendship was going to piss her off fr the first time they mentioned sandwich shop
I think Katie just hates the idea that she can’t control Tom anymore. If Tom gets any new girlfriend it will be in her face because Tom and Tom are the main friends in the group. There will come a time when his future girl won’t love having Katie glare at them the whole time in group settings and Katey won’t be invited to group activities anymore.
💯
thisssssssssss and I hope it happens
Katie barely has anyone to film with now that she's divorced and Stacci and Kristin have been axed.
Yes this is it, she was yelling at him and he was literally shrinking before her eyes.
Yep I’m glad they got divorced cause all Katie dies is complain about something and she still is making Tom feel like the bad guy
His new girlfriend is not weak. U can tell she’s a tough cookie who’s just playing alonv
Why is everyone mad at Raquel but Katie and Lala have been mean girls every season!
Exactly. Raquel is the purest of the bunch. Lala is a washed up, object that gets passed around and Katie is a miserable witch.
Katie is far too controlling. Her and Schwartz are divorced, she no longer gets to dictate to him. He chose to go on Scheana's podcast and to mention his divorce. No one forced him to and he has every right to make those choices. Like wise who he chooses to hook up with or otherwise get involved with, it is no longer any of Katie's business.
12yrs together still deserves some sort of respect. Tom is a man child and thinks b/c he plays all coy that he’ll get away with anything. Scheana medaling in a divorce is none of her business. It’s not her job to find him a mate. Especially setting him up with their coworker Raquel. This is all conveniently opportunistic of Scheana at their expense.
@@lucy.loo84 Maybe but he should no longer have to live his life according to what Katie wants. Respect is a two way street and she should respect the fact that he is now free to do as he wants. Just as she is free to do what she wants without having to factor in Tom's feelings or wishes.
@@lucy.loo84 Nobody can medal in others relationship, if they are in good term. Katie is very controlling.
I think the problem stems from the fact that Katie and Tom privately had a grown up conversation where they both agreed to try to be friends post divorce and to be respectful of each other enough not to mess around within their close circle of friends. If they had that conversation and Schwartz told her no, that she can’t control him and he can do whatever he wants that would’ve set Katie up to really understand that he’s going to do what he’s going to do without regard for her. But the fact is that he agreed with her about wanting to remain friends and not mess around within the friend group. So of course Katie then has expectations that Schwartz is going to act a certain way. It’s another classic move of Schwartz trying to be a people pleaser to avoid conflict when really he is creating conflict because of his inability to stand up for himself and say what he means.
I just can't feel any sympathy for Katie. I wish I could but I can't.
It’s like stassi is still on her shoulder… no growth. And the double standards are ridiculous! She gets what she puts herself through!
So clearly Scheana has been holding a grudge all this time. In the beginning yes they weren't great to her cause she was new, that wasn't ok. But since then how people have treated her has been a direct result from her own behavior
Lmfao James's crowed of 5 pair of hands in the air 🤣🤣🤣
Lol!!!!!
Katie is a bullying, period. Her getting divorced doesn’t change that
Ugh! James is so awkward! He wants to throw everything in Raquel’s face & break her. It’s sickening! He is an abuser, in every sense of the word! Remember he “bumped” her nose? Even there! Told that(and many other) lies! He also seems quite coked out! Anyone else noticing these things about that shallow, arrogant, Nepo-Baby, loser? As you might be able to tell, I can’t stand him! 😂😂😂 My heart breaks for Raquel. She is doubting her self worth, more than ever! We know she already had serious, self esteem issues……. Now she is definitely suffering from a deep depression! Poor girl…. 💔💔💔 Also- what is going on with Ariana? I love her so much! This season she seems to be faking it- BIG TIME!!! Her smiles seems almost robotic. Worried about her, too! Love my VPR & Bravo!
I wish Raquel would completely ignore James.
I hoped for years he wouldn't be asked back. He was so thirsty to get in their friends group and used Kristen to do it. Now I'm finally used to him. Was bummed Rachel isn't in school for working w kids as she planned. This money and show will run its course.
I cannot for the life of me understand why she's still in love with him he's awful!! And drinking again!!!!
Tiffany does your heart still break for Rachel?
@@mohen2960 That's funny!!! My heart doesn't. Fake AF. We need the real cast back and not these fake friends.
Katie was SO mean to both Scheana and Raquel and made them feel like outcasts so I have no sympathy for her. She tries to act like she’s for women empowerment but she does not practice what she preaches.
I’m so surprised to hear James degrade Raquel that way.
Let’s be honest. Katie isn’t dipping into the friend pool because who would have her?! Her personality is disastrously narcissistic and needy/insecure all at once.
Plus who’s really left? 😂😂😂
All the women on that show have acted out constantly, so singling out Katie is reaching. Swartz isn't worth the trouble that he causes, he's a man child that needs a babysitter. He gets away with his crap because he acts stupid and clueless
Yes!
Peter! 🫣😅
@@mizzymel4957 she already dated Peter back in the day before Schwartz..
@@mikeyteladoo5230 OMG 🤦🏼♀️ I don’t remember that little tidbit. No wonder he hasn’t pounced. Oh wait…she’s too old for him!
Ugh Katie reminds me of a giant adult baby. Like still yelling at and standing near your ex husband?? It’s pathetic. And I’d usually be like “let’s see where she’s coming from”, but with Katie, enoughs enough.
scheana is so shady and Raquel play innocent but she’s shady also
How is it ok to get with a friend of your soon to be ex wife
Raquel is making stupid moves. Scheana was a good friend to Katie and Katie was nothing but a B***H to Scheana.
Lololol at Raquel telling her to keep an eye open. She obviously has her eyes opened to sleeping with almost every guy on the show in the bar/restaurant lolol 😂
Katie and James Kennedy are perfect for each other.
Raquel is doing what I wish I did when I left my narcissist and I should’ve listen to his ex wife telling me he ran her over. She’s not creepy she’s not obsessed and I promise after this girl she won’t care about his life anymore. It’s so fresh and she knows the girl is in for trouble
If a woman ever takes time out of her being to talk to u, not her ex it’s a warning. She is happy to be done but stay awaayyyy
Is that girl even 21??? She looks and acts much, much younger. Raquel acted like a half-wit too, but she’s not stupid. James def has a type!
@@mizzymel4957 She looks like she's 18.
If not for criticizing her ex, what purpose does Raquel serve on this season?
Raquel admitted that she stayed with Kennedy because she didn't want to disappoint.... Like who?
You're supposed to make YOU, happy, Miss Thang
If it wasn't for the last 2 years with her boyfriend, what was her purpose on the show?
So now, Raquel is tasked with creating drama by spreading her experience with Kennedy, in order to make herself RELEVANT.
SAD.
The new girlfriend Allie is 27
Lines don’t have to be drawn; They all were friends before they got married/ divorced.
Raquel needs to stop talking to James’ friends, wtf go hang with your own friends 😂
Tom is an excellent performer 👍🏾👍🏾
Katie explicitly says that she knows people are going to choose Schwartz's side over hers--and the fact that that doesn't make her question her own behavior--is SUPER scary.
Katie never should have pressured Tom to marry her. He lost the marriage license (twice!) However, the guy barely ever stood up for her. Lazy and neglectful.
I took it to mean that she knows Tom always gets the good cut and never is to blame for anything.
@@blumaroo the lack of self awareness doesn't make it any less terrifying 😅
@@blumaroo feeling like that is a good sign youre in a competitive and comparative situation, been there before its best to leave but they both seemed competitive
He's like fire and she's like the water that puts out his flame:(
Katie has always been a mean girl! Always and even though I can't get w Tom's behavior, unfortunately he's more pleasant to be around
Katie and Lala are friends for a reason. They can do whatever they want but no one else can or they are a bad person.
I can’t believe she is telling her be keep her eyes wide open. She is having an affair. What a hypocrite.
It's so bizarre watching scenes like this. Like zero conscious
The was Tom was wincing when Katie was yelling at him, was really verbally abusive. They can’t be friend. They need to move on from each other. Katie has always been verbally abusive.
I can't believe that I'm feeling bad for Katie but I do. She has actively bullied many of the members of the cast including Tom and then cried and played the victim when they fat shamed her or said that she should mind her own business. Scheana, James, the Toms and Lala would be fools to fully trust her after her campaigns to take them down. Most of them only tolerated her antics for Tom's sake. Kristen, Stassi and Brittany are gone and she doesn't really have any close ties.
Raquel and sheana are def not girls girls
Who wants to be girls girls with bullies😂
@@theempresss AMEN!
Katie is petty, mean, and controlling..
Katie said she was seeing other people and she didn't care what Tom does! The dear friend Lala sits there and says she was doing Raquels boyfriend and that's ok! Lala has been doing everyone's person and Katie thinks that's ok but not for her ex husband to find a person he enjoys, friend or not. Bye Katie cry baby!
Katie divorced Tom and keeps trying to control him, who he dates and who he is friend with. I can’t believe how explosive and demanding she still is with Tom .She is going to keep doing it until Tom puts a stop on her. Raquel needs to move on too but at least she admitted she still has feelings for Kennedy. Sometimes for your own good you need to leave the person you love because is toxic for your life but the problem is when the other person moves on but you not
Raquel: I’m looking out for you
Raquel’s motives: if I’m miserable. Then he should feel worse
I still can’t get over the fact that Schwartz chose Sandoval over Katie…. Then Sandoval starts a new band putting Schwartz in more debt and a divorce.
Stupid choice Schwartz. STUPID!!!
“Was it worth it?”
I agree with Ariana!!! WHY does Schwartz always get off scotch free and he’s always seen as the sweet laid-back, stupid guy?? I’m so over it! Over him
Very well said. All of it.
Schwartz's routine of ..... I don't know....I guess....I'm innocent....what do you want me to say... I'm over Schwartz. Getting annoying AF.
Most of all, I hated the way he never defended Katie when Sandoval went on the attack on her. Dude, that's your wife!
This is all so true. He's a 6 stellum in Libra w NO fire or earth to give him some oomph! Judge Judy is a 5 stellum in Libra, but I suspect an Aries Ascedant and possibly Moon because she's not sitting on no fences.
James just called his new girlfriend “bubba” and I’m gagging. 🤮
Tom sound great singing in his band nice 👍
James and Jax are really the same person. lol
James is aquarius,and jax has his moon sign is aquarius,they share a lot of simularities, go figure lol,
that's why they didn't get along lol
I'm so curious WHEN have they been a package deal ? People have openly not gotten along with katie and schwartz would continue to hang with them
Katie wishing bad things on others...not who I want to watch. James is two faced.
Idk who’s more narcissistic. Schenea needing to be a victim and making other’s issues hers or just all of Tom Sandoval
Definitely Tom Sandoval!!! I understand that you need to have confidence in yourself, but dude takes that self-confidence to a whole nother level.💯👁️🗨️♾️
@@jenniferkerger3561 THIS!! He is annoying AF!! And WTH is up with the grease-ball, pimp look? Somebody LIED to you brother!
Sandoval
@@jenniferkerger3561 He's beyond confidence. He's a d bag!
That band is just... a joke and complete waste of money. He neglected the business for months and wasted Tom's money too. So much for "I bring money into your household"...
I like Raquel and I know she will get over James but…girl…please talking to your ex girlfriend about your ex I get it you try to warn her but enough already!
You realize the Producers make Racquel talk to Ally. Right? And how anyone can say the slightest thing negative towards/about Racquel? James Kennedy is an absolute TRASH piece of classic, masculine (wannabe) toxicity! Ugh! He is the most narcissistic, indulgent, NEPO baby- his godfather was George Michael- shallow person on the planet! And the way he treats women- and other men, quite frankly- is abhorrent! Racquel seems to be the type to truly worry about other people….. almost to the point of being an empath. Plus- Producers are DEFINITELY making this happen. 😂😂😂 (I wasn’t trying to come for you, in this comment, btw. I was coming for James Kennedy. He’s so narcissistic he probably looks for every comment with his name in it, on Bravo things! 😂😂😂 Just kidding about the last part. But only love & light towards you! Sorry if it came off otherwise. Wanted to express that, after looking at what I’d typed. 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼)
I feel like James shouldn’t be drinking. Sad to see him go back on his sobriety.
Katie made a whole career being a bully and maliciously meddling in the lives and relationships of Sheana, Lala, and whoever looked in her direction, so its a bit hypocritical for her to tell someone else to stay out of her business. She is a walking contradiction
Katie is such a hypocrite.
Did James just “bubba” Ally?! 🤮
Wait did James call his girlfriend bubba ???? 😂😂😂
katie said she got married at 24 on the last ep??? so that just puts into perspective how young these guys were especially tom
Dipping into the friend group?
With who?
Peter? 🙄😁😁😄😄😄😄😁😁😉
I mean yeah Katie, your ex’s workplace isn’t where you should be DUUUUUUUH 🤦🏻♀️
Raquel becoming less likable with each episode. I like James new gf more. It doesn’t help that she is Scheana’s minion. Scheana will always have that thirsty mistress mentality. She hasn’t grown as all and really wouldn’t be missed if she was off the show.
I read somewhere about how peak fame can emotionally stunt someone (i.e. Britney Spears) so it toooooootally makes sense for a lof of these kids on VR to essentially be stalled at season 1. It makes me wonder once the show stops, do they then progress?
She does getting all in Tom and Katie's business. I always found her likable but thirsty. I am happy but surprised she found someone who really likes her. Thirst usually repels men.
Rachel talking to Allie about James was so cringe 😬
I haven’t watched VPR in years. Without the “main OGs” but nothings been keeping my attention so I randomly turned the new season on.
It’s not BAD. It’s not amazing either, but it’s entertaining.
I was CRINGING at LaLa on the double date with Katie. She had 0 game. I’m in her age and situation though. I’d probably be awkward too, but I would NOT be as awkward as she was. 😂
I really like Raquel this season. It’s her time to shine, I suppose and she’s doing well.
Katie seems really cool this season too.
Glad this season does not suck (so far) like last season did.
CRINGE.
OMG…Ariana in the back acting like a fan girl 😅
Sandoval looks like Lester Diamond on steroids. Seriously. WTH!?!
Not James calling his new girlfriend bubba!
Lol I thought I was trippin when I heard that
My biggest issue with Katie as well as Lala is that they have a complex of thinking and believing they are always in the right! I mean they've been rude, out right horrible to each and every person in the group at some point but still expect to be treated well and in a friendly manner, I mean!?! Where's all the growth Lala keeps talking about in her sit down interviews 🙂
Whats the name of the song Tom is performing?
I wish Sandoval could really understand how bad his vocals suck without thinking people are just " haters".... The people who love him are failing him by not telling him the truth.
Katie still trying to manipulate Tom
Lisa vanderpump is far too lenient with these "co stars" 🙄
It appears Schenna is Tom friend not Katie friend… Katie and Schenna could be friends but Schenna low key resents Katie because of the past conflict between them.
Sandoval I heard you finally got signed!! I am so excited. You have a great talent. I wasn't sure at first but you paid your dues and are a bright star ready to break the sky! Congrats and best of luck to you!🩷🔥
Comment aged like milk 🥛
Interesting my comment about Scheana/Katie got deleted. Wondering who runs Bravos account now 🤔
If you think for a second that these people don’t sleep around in relationships or marriages then your wrong!!
They’re so coked out. Can’t wait for celebrity rehab with the whole cast
You got that right Katie, time for you to go! Bye Karen!
@KatieMalone don’t sell your self short, they too can choose you as well.
Ally isbeautiful. I like her look, simple and natural
Katie's behaviour has always been off
Raquel..you dodged a bullet. Leave him alone and Ally. Katie..was hoping you would not return.
I am so happy everyone getting their karma for been so nasty to Kristen
James. Foot in mouth. Again.
Can't believe he said that. Lol
did lala cheat on randal then ?
Racquel is a sucker for self-punishment
Katie finally getting her karma and I'm here for it. 😄
I’m getting the popcorn lol it’s a long time coming
James is totally displaying guilt when talking about his mess up she’s not wise being with him
Raquel will look back on this one day and cringe like hell, because let’s be honest, NOTHING is attractive about James Kennedy at all, like zero! He’s a manchild inside and out!
Katie is a bully I don’t feel bad for her.
Exactly
I agree Katie has been a bully trying to run the whole group for years on this show.. And Schenana she was the single one out the group they definitely isolated her and made her feel like the odd man out in any setting it was always drama with her about something and she really never did anything..
She’s never getting JAMES BACK. EVEN IF SHE SLEEPS WITH THE WHOLE CAST AND EVERYONE AT THE RESTAURANT. BYEEEEEE RACHAEL!!!!!!!!!!!!! BYE!! PUT AN EASY PASS ON IT….DORINDA WORDS. 😂😂😂😂
It's moments like this where I wish Stassi and Kristen were still on the show.. they would NOT let Scheana treat Katie like this.
Come on. Katie can stick up for herself. She is a grown woman.
Screw them. Katie should’ve
been fired right along with them. Katie is a bully
It’s really too bad that they called the police on a black cast mate for funsies and got themselves fired. They are evil. But yeah, too bad.
@@samione4397 YOU AIN’T LYING!!!
@@lillyrose3545 EXACTLY! Why has that been swept under the rug so much?!? I looked up the police report and read the transcript of the conversation. Those two should have been prosecuted. Period! That was HORRIBLE!!!
I always wondered if the Meegan character from Key and Peele wasn't based off of Katie 😅
Next Schenna and Swartz mess around,i could see anything,now😅
Katie is just so negative all the time . I am so happy Tom is out .
She is literally always complaining about everything.