I double up the lowkick sometimes if it isn't checked. Works great. But never doubling roundhouse kicks to the body. Edit: also let the first one be checked and once the foot is planted on the ground after the check time your second lowkick! Learned that from Jeff Chan
I actually land it often in sparring even against higher level fighters. Works great against people who counter the left kick with a double block and a cross(dutch kickboxers). Throw a quick first kick and then that second lands to the liver when they are extended firing the cross.
I think his point is that there are more effective moves if the double round kick doesn't work for you and that it doesn't work for most people. It sounds like it works for you sometimes so this video probably isn't for you.
Yeah in sparring I'll double the double roundhouse kick. I don't really try to hide my kicks behind punches much either, I just keep throwing them again and again. Having said that my hands are weak and my kicks are strong and I really like kicking. I do really like those alternative combos anyway.
I train in a Muay Thai gym now and we double kick all the time, in Sanda was always at different levels, that's because getting your leg catched and thrown is very common in Sanda. btw love the combo into the backfist, gonna have to drill this, thanks Coach.
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This is an example of thinking outside the box. Everyone trains double round kicks on pads and I'm wondering why. Do you think it's the most effective technique to be training or it's more just for the cardio aspect?
I think it's a bit like the speed bag. Not really practical, but super cool! Looks cool, sounds cool and it shows you're a bad ass, when you can do it fast and loud!
I use the double round kick when my dude is checking kicks. The first to let them check and the second is meant to land when he puts his foot back down from the previous check. The first is only meant to do damage when my guy is checking with his shin straight on instead of angled, so it would turn into a calf kick followed by a solid leg kick.
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1000 percent agree with your take here...for me it's cardio effective, but I never want it in my pad work .... I've used it in sparring to slow down advancing punchers who don't catch kicks much... basically to make them think I may do it again, which can open up other options
Yayyy agree. Always thought it was good cardio in practice but not practical. Can't ever get balanced and have power to a sufficient degree with the second kick.
Great train of thought Gabriel. You gotta listen to the expert. That’s you btw. I always wonder why people need to do a round kick and follow through 360 degrees. Why can’t people stop at the point of contact bring the leg back and throw another round house same side and then another. I can do it on both legs with power, can stop in the air bring the leg back and go again. To make it clear I mean without a bag or a pad man. Shadow boxing. I’m also doing them 4 minute rounds with 30 sec intervals, typically 6 rounds, about 1100 strikes. Punches, elbows, knees, kicks, or slips, pullbacks Cheers Gabriel
Double roundhouse kicks, I, and the guys I spar at my muay thai gym, what usually happens is that the first roundhouse is checked, and when they bring their leg down, the second roundhouse will land. Its important to disguise it though, by doing diff combos and variations like throwing left hook/jab to roundhouse, reset, then roundhouse > roundhouse. But the double roundhouse is def very effective when, after having your first kick checked, you bring your shin slamming down into your opponents thigh for a leg kick just when hes bringing his leg down after checking, before his stance becomes stable; it hurts them much more in that case, and has a good chance to knock them off balance, and ready for follow up attacks, if you land a hard roundhouse to their leg in that situation after they get done checking your first kick. That's how double roundhouses are primarily used in my gym, by almost all members. That, and some guys will throw high then low, one to the leg one to the head, with the head roundhouse being more a karate style snap roundhouse for the speed bonus. Ive actually been dropped on my ass from eating a roundhouse to the side of my head from sparring my coach with that combo, roundhouse to the leg which I blocked, then I thought it was over and advanced forward to box him up, and thats when the high snap roundhouse came and floored me. Its quite effective and I wish I could do that. But my legs are not flexible enough sadly; so I only rarely throw high roundhouses; it takes a bit of prep for me(as in, I have to make sure Im in a position safe enough to where I can bend my upper body backwards, while rotating my whole body enough to spin 360 degrees(so my stance is reset if it misses, and if it lands it has max power), and also so I dont eat a counter); and even then if it lands they usually have already advanced in on me a bit, so it lands on their ribcage, which is good, or on their guard, which is bad scenario for me. This is the reason why, for my kicking, i rely on leg kicks and body kicks(aiming for the lower torso, the liver, that area of the body, right above the shorts and under the ribs) while using them in combos with my punches, which I aim at their head and face usually, and sometimes their body if I can position myself for an especially strong hook or uppercut, Ill punch their body. But generally speaking, roundhouses and knee strikes are much more effective body strikes than any punch you throw. It hits with much more power, and the striking surface is far harder than your gloved fist, even if you wearing shinguards like in sparring, a roundhouse still hits far harder than a punch. And headkicks are far more easily blocked than any other kind of strike, even jabs, so to land you need either lightning speed or to accurately predict your opponents actions, or to confuse them enough by misdirection and feints in order to land it cleanly. Like in that recent karate Olympic fight where the black guy knocked out the japanese guy and "lost" via disqualification for "hitting too hard"(its karate lol....that is why people have a low opinion of karate, that and the lack of face punches and therefore any training about guarding your face like in muay thai and boxing and other more legit martial arts). He landed that snap roundhouse due to faking out the other guy, who actually ducked right into eating that roundhouse on his jawline.
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I believe doubling down is more for percision, balance and speed. If you can land two strong consecutive roundkicks, than it's easier to land just one kick in a fight.
Interesting take but I semi-disagree with it not being practical. As a southpaw fighter, in an open stance, my double left roundhouse kick has served me plenty especially for people who try to counter with a punch after cross blocking my first kick, I just quickly reload and slightly adjust my standing foot, get off center, and fire another roundhouse and it stops them in their tracks. But I do understand that it is not used often but it is a great technique. Regarding some other's complaints about "the second kick not having power or one gets off-balance", that is a practitioner issue, not a technique issue. My coaches always told be, if you can't throw a single kick and return to balance, your technique is wrong.
To be fair if you are in an open stance the left round house is going to be more effective anyway, so it makes more sense to double it up than in it does on a closed stance. Im orthodox but I practice the left southpaw round house because its just a lot more practical.
I pulled off a double head kick in a muay Thai bout one time. My opponent was against the ropes. He blocked both but it led me getting him into the clinch I dropped him with knees to the body and apparently fractured his ribs. One of my favorite wins. 👍
i don't see much practicality in a fight unless you re finishing off an opponent who is already hugging his liver and whose guard can be crushed but i think it is a great tool to standardize and improve ones roundhouse kick and help developing hip control and dexterity
Double kicks and speed kicks with pad work build technique, speed, and, like you said, cardio. But you have to do it right. Practice everything, with fundamental balance and stance. Doubling anything in sparring works when they don’t defend it. If the first one lands, and they still didn’t fix their problem, the second one will probably land. This is more of a dynamic thing that depends on the opponent and the situation in the moment. I feel like this video is response to my comment on warrior collective Instagram.
If you don't set it down between kicks it can be a pretty good way to get over someone's guard. In other words it's way more useful for TKD style kicks. Usually that looks something like leg to head or body to head.
I think double round kick is more balance training than an actual fighting combo. Many not so good practitioners cannot even do it because they are unbalanced and it is a good drill for them. I have seen good amateur fighters doing double and even triple round kicks in fight. So you don't need to be Buakaw for using it, but for most fighters it is not a good combo.
I like double kicks, like going to the leg then the body. But double round kicking isn't even something I think to do in sparring. I'd think it is just balance and cardio so maybe it's less effective for a skilled pro
Thanks for the video, I'm curious about what you think of those double round kicks where you don't plant your foot but say kick to the leg or body first then up to the head? I know it's more karate style, but was wondering what you thought.
Im not Varga, but Ive trained muay thai for many years now, and Ive actually gotten dropped from the very combination you described(a low roundhouse kick, followed immediately by a karate style snap roundhouse kick to the side of my head) while sparring with my coach, an active pro fighter. He also liked to use misdirection; doing the motions for a body or leg kick, then suddenly changing direction mid kick to throw a snap roundhouse to the head. Hes gotten me with that several times before too, though never dropped like with the double roundhouse I described. Its effective but not as powerful as a full on roundhouse or a roundhouse you dont expect. And my constant high guard, lowered only to block or parry incoming strikes to my body and immediately returning to high guard position, has protected me passively as long as Ive trained, since I began developing my style early on(a more squared up high guard style, with many dutch kickboxing elements and strategies used, such as the importance of boxing in my style; esp since we cant throw elbows at each other in sparring even in muay thai, and its bad taste to throw knees at your sparring partners face; same with throwing front kicks at their face, very easy to completely shatter their nose that way, and if you do they likely wont ever come back to the gym in addition to being hurt and having a grudge against you).
If you've disturbed your opponents balance with the first kick why not double up and score some more points! See thai fighters do this a lot (well not a lot, but it's cool when they do 😂) Samkor is best example I can think of
I think your being very fussy on this one gab lol,it’s for cardio and actually in karate they try to do like 10-20 kicks to build your balance be able to throw multiple kicks at low medium high level !!!,yes might not work or be realistic in a actual fight like Muay Thai guys doubling up kicks,but just to get used to a pattern,at the end of the day could say this about every technique,what’s point throwing jab cross hook then ?,as very rare idiot going to stand there and eat all 3 them,or spinning kicks axe kicks not every thing lands,
@@nicksalvatore5717 said he done it for cardio,then wanted he’s coaches not to do stuff woudnt work in real fight situation,I get that as I hate them silly boxing combinations of 20 punches unrealistic,but like I say everything you do doesn’t always land,I’ve done karate and Muay Thai always do multiple kicks
I double up the lowkick sometimes if it isn't checked. Works great. But never doubling roundhouse kicks to the body.
Edit: also let the first one be checked and once the foot is planted on the ground after the check time your second lowkick! Learned that from Jeff Chan
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The double kick works well against Dutch hand counters.
You always make sensible options..and i think that is what makes Gabriel Varga so good..
Liam Harrison does double roundkicks and pulls it off in some of his fights.
But he's liam harrison lol
He hits the double leg kick, he showcased it against rodlek multiple times
Liam Harrison also does triple kicks, he has perfected this skill
I actually land it often in sparring even against higher level fighters. Works great against people who counter the left kick with a double block and a cross(dutch kickboxers). Throw a quick first kick and then that second lands to the liver when they are extended firing the cross.
I think his point is that there are more effective moves if the double round kick doesn't work for you and that it doesn't work for most people. It sounds like it works for you sometimes so this video probably isn't for you.
Yeah in sparring I'll double the double roundhouse kick. I don't really try to hide my kicks behind punches much either, I just keep throwing them again and again. Having said that my hands are weak and my kicks are strong and I really like kicking. I do really like those alternative combos anyway.
I train in a Muay Thai gym now and we double kick all the time, in Sanda was always at different levels, that's because getting your leg catched and thrown is very common in Sanda.
btw love the combo into the backfist, gonna have to drill this, thanks Coach.
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This is an example of thinking outside the box. Everyone trains double round kicks on pads and I'm wondering why.
Do you think it's the most effective technique to be training or it's more just for the cardio aspect?
I think it's a bit like the speed bag. Not really practical, but super cool! Looks cool, sounds cool and it shows you're a bad ass, when you can do it fast and loud!
I use the double round kick when my dude is checking kicks. The first to let them check and the second is meant to land when he puts his foot back down from the previous check.
The first is only meant to do damage when my guy is checking with his shin straight on instead of angled, so it would turn into a calf kick followed by a solid leg kick.
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Can you make a video on leg workouts like yours.
1000 percent agree with your take here...for me it's cardio effective, but I never want it in my pad work .... I've used it in sparring to slow down advancing punchers who don't catch kicks much... basically to make them think I may do it again, which can open up other options
haven't even watched it yet still know its a banger
Thanks for the tips Gabriel , ill be sure to implement this in bag work and sparring this week.
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Inside left kick, to left highkick
Love the new setup
Yayyy agree. Always thought it was good cardio in practice but not practical. Can't ever get balanced and have power to a sufficient degree with the second kick.
I must add.... it sounds and looks cool too 😎
I dont even fight how is this man's channel so engrossing lmao.
I use double round kicks occasionally in sparring, it’s very useful honestly. But I don’t think it would work for me in a fight unless the stars align
I think it would be fairly effective in a street fight
@@pinip_f_werty1382 it’s not possible if the brawler match forward aggressively
@@__LSP That's why you establish a good jab or teep. Make them hesitant to rush forward, then crush them.
Or engage in a clinch
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I like what you said about creating your own patterns for pad work that work for you and not just listening to the pad holder. Osu!🙏🙇♂️🥋
TKD has gone exponential with the "double" roundhouse kick.
Great train of thought Gabriel. You gotta listen to the expert. That’s you btw. I always wonder why people need to do a round kick and follow through 360 degrees. Why can’t people stop at the point of contact bring the leg back and throw another round house same side and then another. I can do it on both legs with power, can stop in the air bring the leg back and go again. To make it clear I mean without a bag or a pad man. Shadow boxing. I’m also doing them 4 minute rounds with 30 sec intervals, typically 6 rounds, about 1100 strikes. Punches, elbows, knees, kicks, or slips, pullbacks Cheers Gabriel
Double roundhouse kicks, I, and the guys I spar at my muay thai gym, what usually happens is that the first roundhouse is checked, and when they bring their leg down, the second roundhouse will land. Its important to disguise it though, by doing diff combos and variations like throwing left hook/jab to roundhouse, reset, then roundhouse > roundhouse. But the double roundhouse is def very effective when, after having your first kick checked, you bring your shin slamming down into your opponents thigh for a leg kick just when hes bringing his leg down after checking, before his stance becomes stable; it hurts them much more in that case, and has a good chance to knock them off balance, and ready for follow up attacks, if you land a hard roundhouse to their leg in that situation after they get done checking your first kick. That's how double roundhouses are primarily used in my gym, by almost all members. That, and some guys will throw high then low, one to the leg one to the head, with the head roundhouse being more a karate style snap roundhouse for the speed bonus. Ive actually been dropped on my ass from eating a roundhouse to the side of my head from sparring my coach with that combo, roundhouse to the leg which I blocked, then I thought it was over and advanced forward to box him up, and thats when the high snap roundhouse came and floored me. Its quite effective and I wish I could do that. But my legs are not flexible enough sadly; so I only rarely throw high roundhouses; it takes a bit of prep for me(as in, I have to make sure Im in a position safe enough to where I can bend my upper body backwards, while rotating my whole body enough to spin 360 degrees(so my stance is reset if it misses, and if it lands it has max power), and also so I dont eat a counter); and even then if it lands they usually have already advanced in on me a bit, so it lands on their ribcage, which is good, or on their guard, which is bad scenario for me. This is the reason why, for my kicking, i rely on leg kicks and body kicks(aiming for the lower torso, the liver, that area of the body, right above the shorts and under the ribs) while using them in combos with my punches, which I aim at their head and face usually, and sometimes their body if I can position myself for an especially strong hook or uppercut, Ill punch their body.
But generally speaking, roundhouses and knee strikes are much more effective body strikes than any punch you throw. It hits with much more power, and the striking surface is far harder than your gloved fist, even if you wearing shinguards like in sparring, a roundhouse still hits far harder than a punch. And headkicks are far more easily blocked than any other kind of strike, even jabs, so to land you need either lightning speed or to accurately predict your opponents actions, or to confuse them enough by misdirection and feints in order to land it cleanly. Like in that recent karate Olympic fight where the black guy knocked out the japanese guy and "lost" via disqualification for "hitting too hard"(its karate lol....that is why people have a low opinion of karate, that and the lack of face punches and therefore any training about guarding your face like in muay thai and boxing and other more legit martial arts). He landed that snap roundhouse due to faking out the other guy, who actually ducked right into eating that roundhouse on his jawline.
Yes if they let you do something keep doing it
In terms of bag work, going hook, rear roundhouse, then cross, switch kick ad infinitum is one that I like for technique & cardio
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Each round with tactics?
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Love it very insightful
I believe doubling down is more for percision, balance and speed. If you can land two strong consecutive roundkicks, than it's easier to land just one kick in a fight.
Interesting take but I semi-disagree with it not being practical. As a southpaw fighter, in an open stance, my double left roundhouse kick has served me plenty especially for people who try to counter with a punch after cross blocking my first kick, I just quickly reload and slightly adjust my standing foot, get off center, and fire another roundhouse and it stops them in their tracks. But I do understand that it is not used often but it is a great technique. Regarding some other's complaints about "the second kick not having power or one gets off-balance", that is a practitioner issue, not a technique issue. My coaches always told be, if you can't throw a single kick and return to balance, your technique is wrong.
To be fair if you are in an open stance the left round house is going to be more effective anyway, so it makes more sense to double it up than in it does on a closed stance.
Im orthodox but I practice the left southpaw round house because its just a lot more practical.
I pulled off a double head kick in a muay Thai bout one time. My opponent was against the ropes. He blocked both but it led me getting him into the clinch I dropped him with knees to the body and apparently fractured his ribs. One of my favorite wins. 👍
10 right, 10 left, 10 fast right, 10 fast left.
i don't see much practicality in a fight unless you re finishing off an opponent who is already hugging his liver and whose guard can be crushed but i think it is a great tool to standardize and improve ones roundhouse kick and help developing hip control and dexterity
Inside leg, body kick. Body kick, head kick. With good timing and/or speed, good techniques to employ.
Double kicks and speed kicks with pad work build technique, speed, and, like you said, cardio. But you have to do it right. Practice everything, with fundamental balance and stance.
Doubling anything in sparring works when they don’t defend it. If the first one lands, and they still didn’t fix their problem, the second one will probably land. This is more of a dynamic thing that depends on the opponent and the situation in the moment.
I feel like this video is response to my comment on warrior collective Instagram.
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I always thought doubles triples quadrupled etc
Were just for conditioning.
Sure gets my heart rate up up up ..
I look at it like this, if you are not getting hurt by training something, give it at least a month to see if it can work for you before you decide
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Awesome coach...kick punch kick good combos to practice n which can b apply in sparring n fight.....
Interesting.
1:32 Samkor did that alot of times..it was effective.
If you don't set it down between kicks it can be a pretty good way to get over someone's guard. In other words it's way more useful for TKD style kicks. Usually that looks something like leg to head or body to head.
I like to double low than middle in my sparring works most of the time
I just did it in my fights in multiple occasions k1 first wka
Can you give us a Roundhouse kick workout on the bag???.......or maybe the third episode of j.Claude Van Damme Kicking workout????
Do you have a full time coach Gabriel? Or do you just rely upon pad holders?
I am the first liked! Thanks man! Great work!👍☺
I think double round kick is more balance training than an actual fighting combo. Many not so good practitioners cannot even do it because they are unbalanced and it is a good drill for them. I have seen good amateur fighters doing double and even triple round kicks in fight. So you don't need to be Buakaw for using it, but for most fighters it is not a good combo.
I like double kicks, like going to the leg then the body. But double round kicking isn't even something I think to do in sparring. I'd think it is just balance and cardio so maybe it's less effective for a skilled pro
Can it be use in self-defense in street,!?
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Thanks for the video, I'm curious about what you think of those double round kicks where you don't plant your foot but say kick to the leg or body first then up to the head? I know it's more karate style, but was wondering what you thought.
Im not Varga, but Ive trained muay thai for many years now, and Ive actually gotten dropped from the very combination you described(a low roundhouse kick, followed immediately by a karate style snap roundhouse kick to the side of my head) while sparring with my coach, an active pro fighter. He also liked to use misdirection; doing the motions for a body or leg kick, then suddenly changing direction mid kick to throw a snap roundhouse to the head. Hes gotten me with that several times before too, though never dropped like with the double roundhouse I described. Its effective but not as powerful as a full on roundhouse or a roundhouse you dont expect. And my constant high guard, lowered only to block or parry incoming strikes to my body and immediately returning to high guard position, has protected me passively as long as Ive trained, since I began developing my style early on(a more squared up high guard style, with many dutch kickboxing elements and strategies used, such as the importance of boxing in my style; esp since we cant throw elbows at each other in sparring even in muay thai, and its bad taste to throw knees at your sparring partners face; same with throwing front kicks at their face, very easy to completely shatter their nose that way, and if you do they likely wont ever come back to the gym in addition to being hurt and having a grudge against you).
@@chucknorris202 thanks man! Glad to hear it, i love that kick so it's nice to know it's also useful 🤣
If you've disturbed your opponents balance with the first kick why not double up and score some more points! See thai fighters do this a lot (well not a lot, but it's cool when they do 😂) Samkor is best example I can think of
ive doubled my kicks during my amatuer fights, not a pro thing at all. Not sure what where he's going with his but. ... It's just a different pattern.
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I think your being very fussy on this one gab lol,it’s for cardio and actually in karate they try to do like 10-20 kicks to build your balance be able to throw multiple kicks at low medium high level !!!,yes might not work or be realistic in a actual fight like Muay Thai guys doubling up kicks,but just to get used to a pattern,at the end of the day could say this about every technique,what’s point throwing jab cross hook then ?,as very rare idiot going to stand there and eat all 3 them,or spinning kicks axe kicks not every thing lands,
He mentioned this in the video he likes training with it for that reason
@@nicksalvatore5717 said he done it for cardio,then wanted he’s coaches not to do stuff woudnt work in real fight situation,I get that as I hate them silly boxing combinations of 20 punches unrealistic,but like I say everything you do doesn’t always land,I’ve done karate and Muay Thai always do multiple kicks