You don't even need to send out your ecu to get flashed, that's old school. The best method of flashing is doing it yourself. FT-ECU offers the best options for flashing with a laptop. They have the standard flashing kit and the Activetune kit.
@@MT-THNDR207do you remember what the video title is? I went through his channel and I can’t find it, not sure if he took it down or if I’m just missing it. I have an R7 and am looking to get an exhaust/intake for it.
@@MT-THNDR207 it wasn’t, but the video that was recommended after it was. The title is “fz07 ecu tuning flash engine tuning” in case you needed it for anything. Thanks for helping me find it, I appreciate it
Great video, very useful information. As a long time drag racer familiar with reading plugs and jetting carbs I just want to clarify one thing. When reading plugs the porcelain tells us two things, overall engine condition and if we are running the proper heat range. Dark porcelain indicates that the plug is too cold and not retaining enough heat to clean itself. Too hot a plug will have a very white and possibly blistered porcelain. For air fuel ratio we need to concentrate on the shell. Spark plug manufacturer's and the aftermarket sell lighted magnifers just for looking down into the shell to see the color. The color down inside the shell indicates what is actually happening in the combustion chamber and is not affected by how well the porcelain is transferring heat to the cylinder head. Thanks again for sharing all your mods. I'm doing pretty much the same stuff to my 2022.
Thanks for the great comment and adding to the reading plugs portion. It’s a lost art and am still learning everyday myself but it can be a very useful tool of telling what’s really going on in your engine. Really appreciate it! Peace ✌️
A 100% stock bike, exhaust and all, can benefit from a proper tune. No, I don't mean a canned map, I mean a proper tune by a professional on a dyno using a fuel controller that you can actually tune with. Increased performance, better fuel economy, and seamless drivability can be expected. Fuel injectors shut off on deceleration. When the engine gets to a certain rpm nearing idle, they come on again and BANG! Easily tuned out if the tuner knows what he's doing. Are you wondering if your bike is running lean? Yes, it is. Now you know.
Great advice. If you remember I am the guy with the XSR. Finally got my power commander bout a week ago. Ordered it at the end of March. Hopefully have it on this week. Have the Brogue exhaust and DNA air filter. The good people at Brogue also sent there costom map. Thanks for your video on installing the power commander. Stay safe!!
Dude, you are awesome! Such a well made and informative video. I'm fairly new to motorcycles and this has been super helpful. I just picked up a 2022 MT07 and I want to take best care of it. Maybe you could do a video on the break-in period of a motorcycle.
Thanks for the kind words Matt! I try to make better and better content each video. You will love this bike! I hear you man. That’s a great idea too. I can try and get a video together. I check back in the comments when it’s posted
A much more accurate way to test it would be to use a wide band o2 sensor (which is what they use on a dyno to tune them), since the air/fuel ratio changes throughout the rev range and at different loads. It will always be leaner at light load and lower rpm. At higher load and higher rpm it will run richer. So how you ride will determine what the plus look like Plugs only tell part of the story since ignition timing also affects how they look. And were they new plugs installed for the 100kms? If not then the test is a waste of time as well. Most people misunderstand how fuel injection works, and think that adding something that increases airflow means the bike will run more lean than what it did beforehand. With a few exceptions this is false. The ecu has a sensor that monitors how much air goes in and adds the appropriate amount of fuel. The mapping has load points past where you will hit in everyday use. 1 reason for this is the change in air density as air cools. If this wasn't the case then it your bike ran a little bit lean in summer, then if you live somewhere that gets snow and rode it in winter then it would be dangerously lean. The same applies to cars. This is why you can add an exhaust and it doesn't actually change the AFR much at all (the only change is from using a different load cell for that throttle position and rev range). In a lot of cases, when you do actually exceed the mapping load points the ecu will actually cut power (some will retard the ignition and go stupidly rich in the last cells before you exceed them to reduce the power).
This is true but not entirely, its true that motorcycles do have o2 sensors dedicated for monitoring the afr all the time. BUT, this is not all the time, the o2 works generally in closed loop with the fueling table so little corrections can be applied. Problems really comes when full throttle situations, in most of bikes when you are 100% throttle the fuel injection goes straight to the fuel table that is mapped in the ecu. So in these situations you do will be runing lean.
Holy SHIT there was some serious knowledge in this video!! I fancy myself a pretty knowledgeable dude, but the scoring on the side of the piston was news to me. This was some seriously good content.
Thanks for the kind comment Ryan! I try to Jam Pack my videos with good information and tell people what they need to know so it’s nice that it’s appreciated. Hope you are doing well! Peace ✌️
I have a 2015 MT-07, with Dynojet Power Commander V + Dynojet Quickshift, K&N Double Air Filter, No Restricters, ECU Repro, and of course Power Commander Programmed. I can tell you the bike performance it's from another world! You can't compared with oem config!
Maybe no issues but your bike is probably down on power compared to stock.. i did the same on my xsr, next week it is getting its flashtune to richen it up
I noticed on my stock r7 that there are tons of pops and crackles on decels. Of course it is incredibly muffled and very subtle, but you can definitely hear it, especially after downshifting. The bike runs lean from factory.
I’m new to the motorcycle world so I might be wrong but i don’t see the purpose of tuning after installing an aftermarket exhaust. I see that the MT-07 has an 02 sensor. The ECM gets the input from the 02 sensor and makes fuel adjustments depending on the reading. Well at least that’s how it works on fuel injected cars.
My MT07 was running a bit lean (at light load) after mounting a full exhaust and DNA air filter. ECU remap and dyno solved that and gave a decent increase in HP (nothing crazy), but a more smooth powerband and power delivery.
As long as you use the O2 sensor of course you will be stock bike lean, you are running stock fueling. I just ran a bike on my dyno and was surprised it was quite close on air fuel.
If you use the DNA airfilter & open airbox lid the standard ECU will compensate. Mine is running a little bit rich but I run with the baffle in the exhaust (I have neighbours). I will be getting it remapped but not until next year but it runs fine with the airbox & exhaust as is.
I am not sure how but my dealer is able to tune the fuel mixture for MT07 without even ECU flash/piggyback....however, the value is quite limited but it is doable... So far I can tell is bike from 2015-2017 and 2018-2020 is able to tune it. Not sure whether the latest version is doable but I guess it should be able to tune it.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel As far as I know Yamaha will distribute some software for dealers to slightly "calibrates" fuel injection. I currently using stock exhaust but have deleted catalyze and a slip-on. In that software, they are able to tune the fuel injector interdependently with values 1 to 5... If not mistaken 1 is being the leanest and 5 is the richest... My current setting is 4.
I think people don’t understand if you change the exhaust and air filter change the plugs as well to better plugs aftermarket air filter/ exhaust stock plugs doesn’t sound like performance
Thanks for the vid! Bought an MT07 a month and am researching exhaust systems for it and was trying to decide if I'm going to leave the fuel system alone, PCV, or send the ECU in.
Steve, I appreciate the comment! I would recommend the same because the yoshi system is also free flowing. I’m not sure what the website says and would have to contact yoshi to know for sure what they recommend but I personally play it safe.
It’s still something you want to consider with any full system exhaust. I haven’t done research on that exhaust on wether or not it comes engineered to run without a tune. I would check yoshis website or reach out to a rep
Hi B-rad. Awesome video as always, super informative. Does the piggyback system come with a base tune on it or does one have to have knowledge on tuning? Also do you know of any options to make the Mt-07 a bit louder without having to go down the tuning route. Thanks for your content.
Thanks for the kind words!! Been working hard to deliver better content. So the unit does come pre tuned for the stock exhaust. Gives it a touch more fuel. To install one of the dynojet tunes you will need to install their software which you would gain access to once you purchase the unit. There is an instructional video on their website how to download and use the software. It’s very easy but to go in and adjust the tune is advanced and recommend a phone call to dynojet if you want to go crazy. The tunes they provide are pretty good as is. Sending your ECU in to get flashed would be the easiest for someone who doesn’t plan on making changes themselves. It is also cheaper. Do you have an aftermarket exhaust? If not, there really isn’t a way to make it louder stock. I wouldn’t recommend making changes to your stock system if that’s what your running. I wish the mt07 had a slip on option for its exhaust. It’s not designed for that but would be a middle ground for riders to be able to get better sound without dropping hundreds of dollars and scratching their heads. Unfortunately that’s not the case. A full system of exhaust is the only way to make it louder.Remember as discussed in this video though. The carbon Akrapovic is designed to be run without a tune verified by both revzilla and Akrapovic themselves. It’s up to the user if they want to tune. I personally like to be on the safe side which is why I went with a tuning system.
Hey mate, awesome videos. I,m kinda in between getting ECU flash or power commander 5 or even power vision. My question is how big is the difference between stock and you power commander? For example I can pull easy wheelies with clutch on 3rd gear but impossible at 4th gear. But I have seen that some ppl with mt07 get it up on 4th gear quite easy. Now that you own Power commander, would you still go for that if you had to buy it again ? Cheers mate
I would get a flash now believe it or not. Dynojet just updated to powercommander 6 and they have no tunes available. Could be a while before they get on that so I highly recommend getting your ECU flashed instead. Thanks for the kind words as well. Really really appreciate it! Hope this helps
@@BradTheBuilderChannel that looks good! In my opinion it is too loud, I narrowed my search between SC project S1 or this Akrapovic Carbon for an XSR 700. thanks for the feedback on the tune.
@@eduardoportillo0096 The sc project is probably the top of the top you can get beside the Akra titanium system. Compare decibel stats on both and no problem
I have the 2022 MT an took it today to get the ECU flash an they said they couldn't do it as the mapping hasn't come out for it yet? I was shattered they reckon I have to wait afue weeks extra.
Been watching all your mod videos. Good stuff dude. Saving up for mine has got me itching for more content. Some video ideas I personally would like to see is proper washing techniques and routine maintenance like oil changes or other more complicated maintenance. Regardless, its lookin better and better as the months go by.
Thanks for the boost! I really appreciate your comment. I understand where your coming from too. I had to wait almost 6 months just to get mine even when I had the money. Awesome thanks for telling me what you would like to see! I can certainly make that happen
@@nefariousnz Thanks for the comment! I appreciate you. Question for ya. What would you like to see related to the mt07? What kinds of videos? Pov, maintenance, storytelling type stuff, how tos, interview style? let me know if you can. It’s spring here and riding season is right around the corner
@@BradTheBuilderChannel more maintenance vids would be great I see there's one for an oil change vid already I'll need to check out. Any more 'diy' mods that can be done from home, the power commander video was the best Ive seen, showing every step when changing parts
I'm wondering how older versions of the bike (like pre 2018) would perform with aftermarket exhausts, where mapping setup probably wasn't as lean to begin with to meet some new emission standards.
The ECU configuration would have come slightly different from factory and is hard to know without owning a pre 2018 machine. However the akrapovic full carbon aftermarket exhaust system featured in the video is claimed by both Akrapovic themselves and revzilla a third party seller that the exhaust system can be run with no tune. The exhaust is the same for all model years of the fz/mt 07.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel While it can run without tune the difference is noticable between the "flashed" or tuned ecu and the standard ecu. Stock from factory is what the bike is tuned for. If you change anything than you should do a new tune to the ecu. Its simple from a mechanical stand point. Stop looking for short cuts to a powerful bike and just go buy a 1000cc bike.
The question is can i use the power commander in line the a HealTech or ICS Quickshifter.... would that mess things up? what are your opinions on this.... would i have to do a flash tune fuel setup or a flash tune quick shifter for it to work correctly, because like you i really DONT wanna have to mess with my ECu. Thanks
I don’t have a quick shifter but I know dynojet who makes the powercommander makes a quick shifter that hooks into the powercommander. This would be an option to avoid messing with the ECU. I’m not familiar with the brands you mentioned so unfortunately I can’t answer your question.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel one more quick thing… would it make a difference on the 22 model they look the same but don’t know if it will make a difference
Hi there! Awesome video, subscribed! I was hesitating for months between the CB650R and the MT-07, but it looks like I finally decided to go with the MT-07, because I will be mainly use it in the city, and the torque comes in very handy, I still like the looks better of the CB650R though. Aftermarket headlight options are anyway available, so I don't care that much about it. My question is, do I really need to change my factory suspension, is it really that trash? I am not going to go on track, and I don't think I will find myself on the twisties too much either, but everyone is shouting how trash the suspension is. I don't want to do tons of mods, because I am certain this will not be my last bike. Would you buy an exhaust with tune for what I will be doing, or would you instead do rear and front suspension upgrades like YSS rear shock absorber, and YSS fork upgrade kit? I obviously would love to have more sound, but not too loud or ear piercing, but if I don't enjoy riding on the bike because the suspension is unbearable for city use, then it makes no sense to do anything before suspension upgrade. Your reply is much appreciated, have a nice day dude!
I agree everyone rages about how bad it is. In reality the mt07 would be a flop of a bike if it was that bad. The fz/mt 07 is one of the most popular naked bikes out there. For price point, it’s near unbeatable. I don’t have an issue with my suspension with the daily riding I do. Sure if your going into turns at high speeds and using it for track days then absolutely I would upgrade the suspension but it’s not necessary for daily riding. I have never had a dangerous moment with it either “caused by suspension”. People I think caught onto a trend and feel like they have to do it for it to be rideable and that’s not the case at all. An exhaust in the city would be nice so people can hear and see you. To me an exhaust is essential to safety. People are ruthless out there. Hope this helps and stay safe!
@@BradTheBuilderChannel By the way, have you ridden the 3rd gen MT-09? For 1500 plus, you get more electronics (IMU, Lift control traction control, drive modes, up & down quickshifter. etc.), better suspension, better sound from stock, less snappy throttle response (based on reviews, driving modes can change the characteristics of the bike a lot. Mode 3 and 4 is very throttle friendly.), better brakes, better frame, looks like a better package. If I would go with the MT-07, I would probably get the Akrapovic option from factory, which sets the price already to MT-09 territory. Additionally, I like the stock sound of the MT-09, so I would not have to change anything on that bike, it is just perfect as it is. Would I be able to have the same fun as the MT-07 for my type of use? I feel like I would be able to keep the MT-09 for longer, and if I decide to go for a longer trip, the better suspension might come in handy. Thanks for your thoughts in advance. :)
@@frozenrage6664 I have also asked myself this question and I would go with the MT09. I have also heard great things about it. The 09 sounds great and would pack a punch compared to the mt. The Mts low end grunt/torque I doubt would be matched by the 09 however. Regardless the 09 is also a fantastic option and a great price. I would go for it!
took my R7 for an ECU flash on the dyno and there is a noticeable improvement in performance - don't be lazy, get your bike flashed after a full exhaust
Hi b-rad, great vid as always! I wonder if you could do a short video on how to get a usb from either the keypoint or headlight or maby the battery? I have a sp connect but would like a usb port on my 22 '07. Keep those vid's comming mate. Greetings from Holland
Yeah I’ll look into it. I have a few video request right now and I will try and prioritize them. Thanks for the compliments too I really appreciate it!
Is this compatible with a quickshifter? I have a quickshifter that plugs into the engine. I was thinking plug in the power commander to the bike. Then the quickshifter to the power commander and the the power commander with the bike plugs. In terms the quickshifter is in between the two
Hey B-Rad, my 2018 XSR700 has been very rich for a while. It runs good, no bogging that I can tell, but rich. By rich I mean 70-80 miles max out of a tank of gas. ~27-32MPG even when I baby it. Smells really bad too.. Full exhaust, active tune o2 sensor, new map sensor, and tuned/flashed by a very reputable shop that does most FZ07 ECU flashes/tunes nationwide. Plugs look great, Hord Power air intake. I love my bike and have done a million mods to it so don’t want to trade it out. Do you have any ideas of what it could be?
That’s a tough one. Your plugs might look good at lower rpm’s when checked. Only way to get a true reading is plug chopping at different rpm’s. It might show rich at higher rpm’s. Did it start randomly? Or like right after a specific mod or tune? If I was in your boat I would question the tune despite it being from a reputable place. The active tune could be counter balancing something too. Can you run the bike without the active tune hooked up and run straight off the ECU. If so unplug it and see how she does
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Thanks for the reply, It’s hard saying time wise I basically had the tune and exhaust on it right away maybe after ~200 miles. I know someone with the same bike, exhaust and tune from the same shop with no issues. Getting 140 miles + out of a tank and running it hard. That’s why I’m thinking something’s gotta be screwy somewhere else. We actually installed the active tune as a hopeful solution or at least aid to improve the MPG. Was a pain too because it requires a new larger bung in the exhaust. So I can’t swap back to stock o2 either to test. I’m not worried about the MPG itself but a drop this low there’s gotta be something wrong.
@@scottomotive yeah this is just wild. I’ve never hear of such a thing. I’m starting to think maybe your injectors are getting stuck open or your fuel pump is pumping too much fuel to the injectors causing them to over deliver. I wish I could be more helpful but I’m not sure on this one
According to Akra they don’t get involved in tunes unless the manufacturer requires it. Could be a third part tune made for the Akra I’m not sure. I wish it was more cut and dry but it’s just not
So i just got a 2022 mt 07 and am deciding between an akro or m4 exhaust. Ik ill need to get it tuned but could i just take it to a shop and get it tuned there or do i gotta get an ecu flash and do it myself. Sorry if its a dumb question but im new to this tuning spec stuff
Some shops might have the connections to help you with it. Where I currently live my dealer didn’t know of any specific places that tune. You have nothing to lose by asking your local shops. See what they say. I’m sure someone around you will know where you can bring it and get it tuned.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel sounds good thank you for the response. Also will u ever make a video on installing an ecu flash urself for those who do want to work on their own bike?
@@dreinin I’m very curious on the difference between the Powercommander and an ECU flash so there is a possibility of a video on that but it won’t be for a little bit. I want to see how noticeable it is
Hey Brad, my 19' came with an m4 exhaust and not positive if the ecu was flashed. I noticed the fan comes on at 201° and i have no backfiring w/ downshifts or decel. But a sometimes faint smell of unburnt fuel when the engine is warming up and idling 🤔 any ideas? Thanks in advance
What’s up Matt! That fan stock I believe kicks in around 210 degrees so if yours is kicking in early at 201 then your ECU might be tuned. I know that’s a common adjustment people make when tuning their ECU’s. Okay so it sounds like it’s running like it should. That unburnt fuel smell is perfectly normal especially on startup because the ECU auto chokes the engine to start. With a free flowing exhaust such as the M4, there is no catalytic converter so unburnt combustion gasses will ultimately exit the exhaust because there is nothing to catch it or filter it out. If you start to notice lots of carbon build up that’s more wet than dry and has a greasyness to it inside the exhaust pipe then you might have an issue with burning oil. This is very unlikely. But as far as the smell, I wouldn’t worry about it.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel awesome man! the explanation on the fuel makes sense and I'm going to stop worrying about it! Yes i believe it is flashed, it runs smoothly. And no popping- i still may get the power commander 5 in the future but for now, atleast the engine is safe 👍
Using a K&N air filter should be able to be adjusted for by the stock ECU. The oil filter is not particularly relevant, but likely a waste of money compared to the OEM filter. Don't get the ECU mods for the air filter unless you are going to get the ECU mods anyway. If you are on a slow journey of mods that affect air/fuel, then get the PC that can be adjusted as you go. Otherwise, save your money and take a Moto training class.
Hi I just swapped out my standard exhaust system for a full system on my v2. Can I tune my air to fuel ratio without having to flash or piggyback my ecu?
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Alright I see. Do you recommend I flash the ecu or get a piggyback like you did? Is there any risk to flashing the ecu and can I go back to standard settings if I so choose to?
@@imranbmn unfortunately there is always risk involved but both are pretty standard options with lots of good results. If I was to do it all over again, I would like to try flashing my ECU to see if there is a big difference myself. If you flash your ECU, it is hard to reflash to stock settings unless the company flashing it knows the exact stock settings to go back to. I like the option of the piggy back system because I can unplug it in a matter of 30 minutes where I would have to resend in my ECU to return it to stock. Most companies that flash ECUs warranty their work so I wouldn’t worry so much about it getting wrecked.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Apparently there's lots more that can be done when you flash your ecu. I've yet to do it so I'm running around asking questions about it. Because in Malaysia I was quoted about 400 usd to flash the ecu whilst doing a piggyback is about 600 usd because I'd have to buy the piggyback and then send it in for a dyno tune.
What's the difference between a power commander and an ECU flash? Im assuming the power commander doesn't improve bike performance like an ECU does? What exactly IS a power commander? I'm sort of new to this so sorry if it's a stupid question.
The power commander is a unit that plugs into the existing wiring harness and alters the ECU when riding. When the unit is unhooked from the bike it returns to the stock ECU. An ECU flash is where you take your ECU off the bike or bring it in to have it flashed. Flashing allows you to change more settings on the ECU over the power commander. Both methods are altering how much fuel is delivered to the cylinders via the exhaust sensor.
Finally got myself to purchase an exhaust, but now I'm debating between which tuning route I want to go. Would you recommend the updated Power Commander 6 or the Power Vision 3? Other than intake and a quickshifter down the road, is there really a pro or con to either choice?
I have no experience with the power vision 3 so I’m out of my element there but I would absolutely use the updated powercommander 6. Flash tuning is also an option
@@sethlabarbera8515 flash tunes allow you to tap into more settings. You ship out your ECU and then they ship it back with the tune. Powercommander allows you to take it off and return to stock. ECU flash does not. Returning to stock is nice to be able to problem solve in the case of an issue. Powercommander can be updated and adjusted anytime and you can put the tune on right away. Not wait while shipping it out. Powercommander is more money. ECU flash is $200 cheaper and pretty much once it’s flashed your good to go for the life of the bike. Updates to the ECU flash require you to take it off the bike again and send it back in. In all honesty both options have their ups and downs. I would be interested to try the flash tune versus the powercommander to see if the difference is noticeable
I did both 🤦🏻♂️. First I went pc 5 and the ots tune was ok. But everyone in the mt07 community will roast you to death telling you a flash is way way better ect. So I got talked into sending mine to 2wdw. So now I have a pc5 sitting around for no reason….
They do not make slip on units for this machine. The stock exhaust is all one piece. The answer according to revzilla and Akrapovic would be no you do not need to tune but if you want better performance and less of a chance of running your engine lean, get it tuned.
Hey Brad, I picked up a 2022 MT-07 a few days ago and have an Akro system on the way. I've heard complaints about the Power Commander 6 so I was going to grab a PC5, but on a couple of sites (like Revzilla) it says it's incompatible and direct me to the PC6. Do you think the fuel tables changed between the 2020-21 and 22 models? It doesn't hurt that it's $125 bucks cheaper.
This is nearly an identical Moto. Mostly just cosmetically different. And if you are asking specifically about a Power Commander, yes, it is likely the same, but be sure to check before purchase.
Stock mapping is ALWAYS to lean - it helps to bring fuel consumption down and meet emissions. That is how politicans are killing our engines :-( I would tune even a bike with stock exhaust ;-P Especially that Yamaha's throttle mapping is usually trash out of the box and you can fix it while your at it...
You don't even need to send out your ecu to get flashed, that's old school. The best method of flashing is doing it yourself. FT-ECU offers the best options for flashing with a laptop. They have the standard flashing kit and the Activetune kit.
Could you make a video on it ?
@London Biker I don't need to since Jakethegardensnake already has.
@@MT-THNDR207do you remember what the video title is? I went through his channel and I can’t find it, not sure if he took it down or if I’m just missing it. I have an R7 and am looking to get an exhaust/intake for it.
@samvarney2319 If I remember correctly, it's in his Two Brothers exhaust install vid. Lmk if that's it.
@@MT-THNDR207 it wasn’t, but the video that was recommended after it was. The title is “fz07 ecu tuning flash engine tuning” in case you needed it for anything. Thanks for helping me find it, I appreciate it
Great video, very useful information. As a long time drag racer familiar with reading plugs and jetting carbs I just want to clarify one thing. When reading plugs the porcelain tells us two things, overall engine condition and if we are running the proper heat range. Dark porcelain indicates that the plug is too cold and not retaining enough heat to clean itself. Too hot a plug will have a very white and possibly blistered porcelain. For air fuel ratio we need to concentrate on the shell. Spark plug manufacturer's and the aftermarket sell lighted magnifers just for looking down into the shell to see the color. The color down inside the shell indicates what is actually happening in the combustion chamber and is not affected by how well the porcelain is transferring heat to the cylinder head. Thanks again for sharing all your mods. I'm doing pretty much the same stuff to my 2022.
Thanks for the great comment and adding to the reading plugs portion. It’s a lost art and am still learning everyday myself but it can be a very useful tool of telling what’s really going on in your engine. Really appreciate it! Peace ✌️
A 100% stock bike, exhaust and all, can benefit from a proper tune. No, I don't mean a canned map, I mean a proper tune by a professional on a dyno using a fuel controller that you can actually tune with. Increased performance, better fuel economy, and seamless drivability can be expected.
Fuel injectors shut off on deceleration. When the engine gets to a certain rpm nearing idle, they come on again and BANG! Easily tuned out if the tuner knows what he's doing.
Are you wondering if your bike is running lean? Yes, it is. Now you know.
Getting ready to do a cat back on my rc390! With a Cat back no tune is necessary correct? Not a full just removing pre muffler and Acropovic shorty.
Great advice. If you remember I am the guy with the XSR. Finally got my power commander bout a week ago. Ordered it at the end of March. Hopefully have it on this week. Have the Brogue exhaust and DNA air filter. The good people at Brogue also sent there costom map. Thanks for your video on installing the power commander. Stay safe!!
Thanks for the comment Robbie! I do remember yes and your welcome. Peace ✌️
Dude, you are awesome! Such a well made and informative video. I'm fairly new to motorcycles and this has been super helpful. I just picked up a 2022 MT07 and I want to take best care of it. Maybe you could do a video on the break-in period of a motorcycle.
Thanks for the kind words Matt! I try to make better and better content each video. You will love this bike! I hear you man. That’s a great idea too. I can try and get a video together. I check back in the comments when it’s posted
I also just picked up an mt07 I'm in Australia and I'm looking at putting your exhaust on my bike so thanks for the how to install video so helpful
A much more accurate way to test it would be to use a wide band o2 sensor (which is what they use on a dyno to tune them), since the air/fuel ratio changes throughout the rev range and at different loads. It will always be leaner at light load and lower rpm. At higher load and higher rpm it will run richer. So how you ride will determine what the plus look like Plugs only tell part of the story since ignition timing also affects how they look.
And were they new plugs installed for the 100kms? If not then the test is a waste of time as well.
Most people misunderstand how fuel injection works, and think that adding something that increases airflow means the bike will run more lean than what it did beforehand. With a few exceptions this is false. The ecu has a sensor that monitors how much air goes in and adds the appropriate amount of fuel. The mapping has load points past where you will hit in everyday use. 1 reason for this is the change in air density as air cools. If this wasn't the case then it your bike ran a little bit lean in summer, then if you live somewhere that gets snow and rode it in winter then it would be dangerously lean. The same applies to cars. This is why you can add an exhaust and it doesn't actually change the AFR much at all (the only change is from using a different load cell for that throttle position and rev range). In a lot of cases, when you do actually exceed the mapping load points the ecu will actually cut power (some will retard the ignition and go stupidly rich in the last cells before you exceed them to reduce the power).
Thanks for the comment with such valuable information. I completed what I could with the tools I have. Peace ✌️
This is true but not entirely, its true that motorcycles do have o2 sensors dedicated for monitoring the afr all the time. BUT, this is not all the time, the o2 works generally in closed loop with the fueling table so little corrections can be applied. Problems really comes when full throttle situations, in most of bikes when you are 100% throttle the fuel injection goes straight to the fuel table that is mapped in the ecu. So in these situations you do will be runing lean.
Holy SHIT there was some serious knowledge in this video!! I fancy myself a pretty knowledgeable dude, but the scoring on the side of the piston was news to me. This was some seriously good content.
Thanks for the kind comment Ryan! I try to Jam Pack my videos with good information and tell people what they need to know so it’s nice that it’s appreciated. Hope you are doing well! Peace ✌️
I love the Pit Bull stands, so professional and boss, just gorgeous as a set
Couldn’t agree more! They are top notch when it comes to quality too
So glad you’re dropping this video!!!
David thanks for being the first to tune in and supporting the channel!
I'm confused, are you saying you installed brand new spark plugs, then rode the bike for 100 miles and that's how they looked?
I have a 2015 MT-07, with Dynojet Power Commander V + Dynojet Quickshift, K&N Double Air Filter, No Restricters, ECU Repro, and of course Power Commander Programmed. I can tell you the bike performance it's from another world! You can't compared with oem config!
Thanks. This is a really helpful video as I’m having issues with my bike after fitting an exhaust and open air filter.
Currently run my 33k mile XSR900 with the intake mod, full exhaust, no tune, OEM replaced spark plugs, and no issues whatsoever. Just like new.
Maybe no issues but your bike is probably down on power compared to stock.. i did the same on my xsr, next week it is getting its flashtune to richen it up
I noticed on my stock r7 that there are tons of pops and crackles on decels. Of course it is incredibly muffled and very subtle, but you can definitely hear it, especially after downshifting. The bike runs lean from factory.
I’m new to the motorcycle world so I might be wrong but i don’t see the purpose of tuning after installing an aftermarket exhaust. I see that the MT-07 has an 02 sensor. The ECM gets the input from the 02 sensor and makes fuel adjustments depending on the reading. Well at least that’s how it works on fuel injected cars.
My MT07 was running a bit lean (at light load) after mounting a full exhaust and DNA air filter. ECU remap and dyno solved that and gave a decent increase in HP (nothing crazy), but a more smooth powerband and power delivery.
Thank you for sharing! Much appreciated
You win my heart. Education that anyone can absorb. Very good information. Keep it up you have a permanent subscriber right here baby! LETS GOOOO
Thank you very much!!
As long as you use the O2 sensor of course you will be stock bike lean, you are running stock fueling. I just ran a bike on my dyno and was surprised it was quite close on air fuel.
That’s great to know thanks for the comment
If you use the DNA airfilter & open airbox lid the standard ECU will compensate. Mine is running a little bit rich but I run with the baffle in the exhaust (I have neighbours). I will be getting it remapped but not until next year but it runs fine with the airbox & exhaust as is.
Thanks for commenting and contributing! Peace ✌️
I am not sure how but my dealer is able to tune the fuel mixture for MT07 without even ECU flash/piggyback....however, the value is quite limited but it is doable... So far I can tell is bike from 2015-2017 and 2018-2020 is able to tune it. Not sure whether the latest version is doable but I guess it should be able to tune it.
This is very interesting. I’m really curious to what it is that they are doing then. Comment back if you ever find out specifically
@@BradTheBuilderChannel As far as I know Yamaha will distribute some software for dealers to slightly "calibrates" fuel injection. I currently using stock exhaust but have deleted catalyze and a slip-on. In that software, they are able to tune the fuel injector interdependently with values 1 to 5... If not mistaken 1 is being the leanest and 5 is the richest... My current setting is 4.
@@shyan5886 thanks for the good info! I’m gonna check with my dealer and see what they can do too. I appreciate the comment
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Just get it from my friend.. It actually adjust the CO2 level. Engine run rich = high co2, lean = lower co2..
amazing tip. too bad those tuning parts like DynoJet are super illegal in my country.
Great video! This is exactly what i was looking for.
Great video, can you make a video of how to change the spark plugs?
Yeah I could certainly do that. I’ll starting getting something together for everyone.
I think people don’t understand if you change the exhaust and air filter change the plugs as well to better plugs aftermarket air filter/ exhaust stock plugs doesn’t sound like performance
Thanks for the vid! Bought an MT07 a month and am researching exhaust systems for it and was trying to decide if I'm going to leave the fuel system alone, PCV, or send the ECU in.
Thanks Chris for commenting and supporting the channel! Much appreciated
Do you think you would get the same result and recommandation with a Yoshi full system exhaust? Great video btw!
Steve, I appreciate the comment! I would recommend the same because the yoshi system is also free flowing. I’m not sure what the website says and would have to contact yoshi to know for sure what they recommend but I personally play it safe.
So when getting a new exhaust do I have to tune and flash the ecu
What about the Yoshi R 77 and K&N air filter? Which is my current set up-- been pondering this.
It’s still something you want to consider with any full system exhaust. I haven’t done research on that exhaust on wether or not it comes engineered to run without a tune. I would check yoshis website or reach out to a rep
@@BradTheBuilderChannel THX
Hi B-rad. Awesome video as always, super informative. Does the piggyback system come with a base tune on it or does one have to have knowledge on tuning? Also do you know of any options to make the Mt-07 a bit louder without having to go down the tuning route. Thanks for your content.
Thanks for the kind words!! Been working hard to deliver better content. So the unit does come pre tuned for the stock exhaust. Gives it a touch more fuel. To install one of the dynojet tunes you will need to install their software which you would gain access to once you purchase the unit. There is an instructional video on their website how to download and use the software. It’s very easy but to go in and adjust the tune is advanced and recommend a phone call to dynojet if you want to go crazy. The tunes they provide are pretty good as is. Sending your ECU in to get flashed would be the easiest for someone who doesn’t plan on making changes themselves. It is also cheaper.
Do you have an aftermarket exhaust? If not, there really isn’t a way to make it louder stock. I wouldn’t recommend making changes to your stock system if that’s what your running. I wish the mt07 had a slip on option for its exhaust. It’s not designed for that but would be a middle ground for riders to be able to get better sound without dropping hundreds of dollars and scratching their heads. Unfortunately that’s not the case. A full system of exhaust is the only way to make it louder.Remember as discussed in this video though. The carbon Akrapovic is designed to be run without a tune verified by both revzilla and Akrapovic themselves. It’s up to the user if they want to tune. I personally like to be on the safe side which is why I went with a tuning system.
Great video where can i find a power commander 5 ?any links? I have an mt07 2021
I will post all product links in my description this afternoon
Links have been updated
Hey mate, awesome videos. I,m kinda in between getting ECU flash or power commander 5 or even power vision. My question is how big is the difference between stock and you power commander? For example I can pull easy wheelies with clutch on 3rd gear but impossible at 4th gear. But I have seen that some ppl with mt07 get it up on 4th gear quite easy. Now that you own Power commander, would you still go for that if you had to buy it again ? Cheers mate
I would get a flash now believe it or not. Dynojet just updated to powercommander 6 and they have no tunes available. Could be a while before they get on that so I highly recommend getting your ECU flashed instead. Thanks for the kind words as well. Really really appreciate it! Hope this helps
Hey there great video, what made you choose the Akrapovic carbon exhaust?
I like the look of the loop bending in the back. Otherwise I would have got the yoshi.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel that looks good! In my opinion it is too loud, I narrowed my search between SC project S1 or this Akrapovic Carbon for an XSR 700. thanks for the feedback on the tune.
@@eduardoportillo0096 The sc project is probably the top of the top you can get beside the Akra titanium system. Compare decibel stats on both and no problem
I have the 2022 MT an took it today to get the ECU flash an they said they couldn't do it as the mapping hasn't come out for it yet? I was shattered they reckon I have to wait afue weeks extra.
I feel your pain! Seems like everything has been taking longer these days.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel They do change afue settings for now though an it surprised me how much better it runs definitely more aggressive 😄
@@Mark-zq7xk got to love it!! Peace ✌️
Been watching all your mod videos. Good stuff dude. Saving up for mine has got me itching for more content. Some video ideas I personally would like to see is proper washing techniques and routine maintenance like oil changes or other more complicated maintenance. Regardless, its lookin better and better as the months go by.
Thanks for the boost! I really appreciate your comment. I understand where your coming from too. I had to wait almost 6 months just to get mine even when I had the money.
Awesome thanks for telling me what you would like to see! I can certainly make that happen
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Im in the same boat and would also like to see these video suggestions! you make the best mt07 content!
@@nefariousnz Thanks for the comment! I appreciate you. Question for ya. What would you like to see related to the mt07? What kinds of videos? Pov, maintenance, storytelling type stuff, how tos, interview style? let me know if you can. It’s spring here and riding season is right around the corner
@@BradTheBuilderChannel more maintenance vids would be great I see there's one for an oil change vid already I'll need to check out. Any more 'diy' mods that can be done from home, the power commander video was the best Ive seen, showing every step when changing parts
Pov riding vids and story times would also be welcome, maybe a weekly series to follow
Love your videos! Keep at it man :)
Thanks Caleb. Its very much appreciated. It’s all for you guys!
great video. to the point and great information. thanks
I'm wondering how older versions of the bike (like pre 2018) would perform with aftermarket exhausts, where mapping setup probably wasn't as lean to begin with to meet some new emission standards.
The ECU configuration would have come slightly different from factory and is hard to know without owning a pre 2018 machine. However the akrapovic full carbon aftermarket exhaust system featured in the video is claimed by both Akrapovic themselves and revzilla a third party seller that the exhaust system can be run with no tune. The exhaust is the same for all model years of the fz/mt 07.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel While it can run without tune the difference is noticable between the "flashed" or tuned ecu and the standard ecu. Stock from factory is what the bike is tuned for. If you change anything than you should do a new tune to the ecu. Its simple from a mechanical stand point. Stop looking for short cuts to a powerful bike and just go buy a 1000cc bike.
@@ColinSawyer-q1xnah, the 700 is fine
The question is can i use the power commander in line the a HealTech or ICS Quickshifter.... would that mess things up? what are your opinions on this.... would i have to do a flash tune fuel setup or a flash tune quick shifter for it to work correctly, because like you i really DONT wanna have to mess with my ECu. Thanks
I don’t have a quick shifter but I know dynojet who makes the powercommander makes a quick shifter that hooks into the powercommander. This would be an option to avoid messing with the ECU. I’m not familiar with the brands you mentioned so unfortunately I can’t answer your question.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel ok thank you for the quick response I will have to look into that quick shifter
@@BradTheBuilderChannel one more quick thing… would it make a difference on the 22 model they look the same but don’t know if it will make a difference
@@thatguyquestionable I’m 99% sure it’s the same yes
@@BradTheBuilderChannel ok thank you sir
Hi there! Awesome video, subscribed! I was hesitating for months between the CB650R and the MT-07, but it looks like I finally decided to go with the MT-07, because I will be mainly use it in the city, and the torque comes in very handy, I still like the looks better of the CB650R though. Aftermarket headlight options are anyway available, so I don't care that much about it. My question is, do I really need to change my factory suspension, is it really that trash? I am not going to go on track, and I don't think I will find myself on the twisties too much either, but everyone is shouting how trash the suspension is. I don't want to do tons of mods, because I am certain this will not be my last bike. Would you buy an exhaust with tune for what I will be doing, or would you instead do rear and front suspension upgrades like YSS rear shock absorber, and YSS fork upgrade kit? I obviously would love to have more sound, but not too loud or ear piercing, but if I don't enjoy riding on the bike because the suspension is unbearable for city use, then it makes no sense to do anything before suspension upgrade. Your reply is much appreciated, have a nice day dude!
I agree everyone rages about how bad it is. In reality the mt07 would be a flop of a bike if it was that bad. The fz/mt 07 is one of the most popular naked bikes out there. For price point, it’s near unbeatable. I don’t have an issue with my suspension with the daily riding I do. Sure if your going into turns at high speeds and using it for track days then absolutely I would upgrade the suspension but it’s not necessary for daily riding. I have never had a dangerous moment with it either “caused by suspension”. People I think caught onto a trend and feel like they have to do it for it to be rideable and that’s not the case at all. An exhaust in the city would be nice so people can hear and see you. To me an exhaust is essential to safety. People are ruthless out there. Hope this helps and stay safe!
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Thanks for the reply dude, I am relieved. :) Much appreciated!
@@BradTheBuilderChannel By the way, have you ridden the 3rd gen MT-09? For 1500 plus, you get more electronics (IMU, Lift control traction control, drive modes, up & down quickshifter. etc.), better suspension, better sound from stock, less snappy throttle response (based on reviews, driving modes can change the characteristics of the bike a lot. Mode 3 and 4 is very throttle friendly.), better brakes, better frame, looks like a better package. If I would go with the MT-07, I would probably get the Akrapovic option from factory, which sets the price already to MT-09 territory. Additionally, I like the stock sound of the MT-09, so I would not have to change anything on that bike, it is just perfect as it is. Would I be able to have the same fun as the MT-07 for my type of use? I feel like I would be able to keep the MT-09 for longer, and if I decide to go for a longer trip, the better suspension might come in handy. Thanks for your thoughts in advance. :)
@@frozenrage6664 I have also asked myself this question and I would go with the MT09. I have also heard great things about it. The 09 sounds great and would pack a punch compared to the mt. The Mts low end grunt/torque I doubt would be matched by the 09 however. Regardless the 09 is also a fantastic option and a great price. I would go for it!
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Awesome, much appreciated!
What bracket did you use to mount the rear brake reservoir after removing the passenger pegs?
I thought power commanders were only for throttle feel I didn’t know they got chips
took my R7 for an ECU flash on the dyno and there is a noticeable improvement in performance - don't be lazy, get your bike flashed after a full exhaust
Did you use the power vision 3?
@@chanceschawo4617 no, all fuelings were optimised by the professional at the dyno
Hi b-rad, great vid as always!
I wonder if you could do a short video on how to get a usb from either the keypoint or headlight or maby the battery?
I have a sp connect but would like a usb port on my 22 '07.
Keep those vid's comming mate.
Greetings from Holland
Yeah I’ll look into it. I have a few video request right now and I will try and prioritize them. Thanks for the compliments too I really appreciate it!
I contacted Akrapovic and he told me that with this exhaust there is no need to do the control unit
Is this compatible with a quickshifter? I have a quickshifter that plugs into the engine. I was thinking plug in the power commander to the bike. Then the quickshifter to the power commander and the the power commander with the bike plugs. In terms the quickshifter is in between the two
When you are uploading the new map, does the bike have to be turned off?
Hey B-Rad, my 2018 XSR700 has been very rich for a while. It runs good, no bogging that I can tell, but rich. By rich I mean 70-80 miles max out of a tank of gas. ~27-32MPG even when I baby it. Smells really bad too.. Full exhaust, active tune o2 sensor, new map sensor, and tuned/flashed by a very reputable shop that does most FZ07 ECU flashes/tunes nationwide. Plugs look great, Hord Power air intake. I love my bike and have done a million mods to it so don’t want to trade it out. Do you have any ideas of what it could be?
That’s a tough one. Your plugs might look good at lower rpm’s when checked. Only way to get a true reading is plug chopping at different rpm’s. It might show rich at higher rpm’s. Did it start randomly? Or like right after a specific mod or tune?
If I was in your boat I would question the tune despite it being from a reputable place. The active tune could be counter balancing something too. Can you run the bike without the active tune hooked up and run straight off the ECU. If so unplug it and see how she does
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Thanks for the reply,
It’s hard saying time wise I basically had the tune and exhaust on it right away maybe after ~200 miles. I know someone with the same bike, exhaust and tune from the same shop with no issues. Getting 140 miles + out of a tank and running it hard. That’s why I’m thinking something’s gotta be screwy somewhere else.
We actually installed the active tune as a hopeful solution or at least aid to improve the MPG. Was a pain too because it requires a new larger bung in the exhaust. So I can’t swap back to stock o2 either to test.
I’m not worried about the MPG itself but a drop this low there’s gotta be something wrong.
@@scottomotive yeah this is just wild. I’ve never hear of such a thing. I’m starting to think maybe your injectors are getting stuck open or your fuel pump is pumping too much fuel to the injectors causing them to over deliver. I wish I could be more helpful but I’m not sure on this one
I have a full akrapovic exhaust and a power commander 6. What tune did you use as I want to copy it.
But in the KTM world Akra has an ECU map that gets installed by dealers
According to Akra they don’t get involved in tunes unless the manufacturer requires it. Could be a third part tune made for the Akra I’m not sure. I wish it was more cut and dry but it’s just not
Hi, im from the Philippines... I recently own a 2022 mt07. I would like to know how much is the power commander? I can't find any in town.
It’s about $450 USD now. If you can’t find one, an ECU flash might be cheaper and still a good option for you
@@BradTheBuilderChannel thanks for the advice... I'd rather buy a PC, but since it's not available here. I'll just have my bike reflash.
So i just got a 2022 mt 07 and am deciding between an akro or m4 exhaust. Ik ill need to get it tuned but could i just take it to a shop and get it tuned there or do i gotta get an ecu flash and do it myself. Sorry if its a dumb question but im new to this tuning spec stuff
Some shops might have the connections to help you with it. Where I currently live my dealer didn’t know of any specific places that tune. You have nothing to lose by asking your local shops. See what they say. I’m sure someone around you will know where you can bring it and get it tuned.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel sounds good thank you for the response. Also will u ever make a video on installing an ecu flash urself for those who do want to work on their own bike?
@@dreinin I’m very curious on the difference between the Powercommander and an ECU flash so there is a possibility of a video on that but it won’t be for a little bit. I want to see how noticeable it is
Very Lean or too much timing advance..
Hey Brad, my 19' came with an m4 exhaust and not positive if the ecu was flashed. I noticed the fan comes on at 201° and i have no backfiring w/ downshifts or decel. But a sometimes faint smell of unburnt fuel when the engine is warming up and idling 🤔 any ideas? Thanks in advance
What’s up Matt! That fan stock I believe kicks in around 210 degrees so if yours is kicking in early at 201 then your ECU might be tuned. I know that’s a common adjustment people make when tuning their ECU’s. Okay so it sounds like it’s running like it should. That unburnt fuel smell is perfectly normal especially on startup because the ECU auto chokes the engine to start. With a free flowing exhaust such as the M4, there is no catalytic converter so unburnt combustion gasses will ultimately exit the exhaust because there is nothing to catch it or filter it out. If you start to notice lots of carbon build up that’s more wet than dry and has a greasyness to it inside the exhaust pipe then you might have an issue with burning oil. This is very unlikely. But as far as the smell, I wouldn’t worry about it.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel awesome man! the explanation on the fuel makes sense and I'm going to stop worrying about it! Yes i believe it is flashed, it runs smoothly. And no popping-
i still may get the power commander 5 in the future but for now, atleast the engine is safe 👍
I just got an K&N filter combo with the oil filter is it better for me to get an ECU flash or a power commander?
Using a K&N air filter should be able to be adjusted for by the stock ECU. The oil filter is not particularly relevant, but likely a waste of money compared to the OEM filter.
Don't get the ECU mods for the air filter unless you are going to get the ECU mods anyway.
If you are on a slow journey of mods that affect air/fuel, then get the PC that can be adjusted as you go. Otherwise, save your money and take a Moto training class.
Hi I just swapped out my standard exhaust system for a full system on my v2. Can I tune my air to fuel ratio without having to flash or piggyback my ecu?
Unfortunately no because the air to fuel is completely computer controlled based off your O2 sensor and ECU communicating with one another
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Alright I see. Do you recommend I flash the ecu or get a piggyback like you did? Is there any risk to flashing the ecu and can I go back to standard settings if I so choose to?
@@imranbmn unfortunately there is always risk involved but both are pretty standard options with lots of good results. If I was to do it all over again, I would like to try flashing my ECU to see if there is a big difference myself. If you flash your ECU, it is hard to reflash to stock settings unless the company flashing it knows the exact stock settings to go back to. I like the option of the piggy back system because I can unplug it in a matter of 30 minutes where I would have to resend in my ECU to return it to stock. Most companies that flash ECUs warranty their work so I wouldn’t worry so much about it getting wrecked.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Apparently there's lots more that can be done when you flash your ecu. I've yet to do it so I'm running around asking questions about it. Because in Malaysia I was quoted about 400 usd to flash the ecu whilst doing a piggyback is about 600 usd because I'd have to buy the piggyback and then send it in for a dyno tune.
What's the difference between a power commander and an ECU flash? Im assuming the power commander doesn't improve bike performance like an ECU does? What exactly IS a power commander? I'm sort of new to this so sorry if it's a stupid question.
The power commander is a unit that plugs into the existing wiring harness and alters the ECU when riding. When the unit is unhooked from the bike it returns to the stock ECU. An ECU flash is where you take your ECU off the bike or bring it in to have it flashed. Flashing allows you to change more settings on the ECU over the power commander. Both methods are altering how much fuel is delivered to the cylinders via the exhaust sensor.
@@BradTheBuilderChannelcan a flashed ECU be put back to stock ?
Finally got myself to purchase an exhaust, but now I'm debating between which tuning route I want to go. Would you recommend the updated Power Commander 6 or the Power Vision 3? Other than intake and a quickshifter down the road, is there really a pro or con to either choice?
I have no experience with the power vision 3 so I’m out of my element there but I would absolutely use the updated powercommander 6. Flash tuning is also an option
Thanks for the reply. My buddy recommended Vcyclenut tune, something like that would be a flash no? Any idea how that compares to a power commander?
@@sethlabarbera8515 flash tunes allow you to tap into more settings. You ship out your ECU and then they ship it back with the tune. Powercommander allows you to take it off and return to stock. ECU flash does not. Returning to stock is nice to be able to problem solve in the case of an issue. Powercommander can be updated and adjusted anytime and you can put the tune on right away. Not wait while shipping it out. Powercommander is more money. ECU flash is $200 cheaper and pretty much once it’s flashed your good to go for the life of the bike. Updates to the ECU flash require you to take it off the bike again and send it back in. In all honesty both options have their ups and downs. I would be interested to try the flash tune versus the powercommander to see if the difference is noticeable
What did you end up doing?
Does the power commander v eliminate deceleration backfiring?
Update: I'm looking into the power commander 6 for my incoming KN filter with BW exhaust. Any videos on how to tune it at home? :|
Unfortunately I don’t have any tuning videos. I’ve always used the one off their website and on UA-cam. Reaching out to them is also a good option
@@BradTheBuilderChannel thank you for the insight.
I did both 🤦🏻♂️. First I went pc 5 and the ots tune was ok. But everyone in the mt07 community will roast you to death telling you a flash is way way better ect. So I got talked into sending mine to 2wdw. So now I have a pc5 sitting around for no reason….
If you have an aftermarket air filter and a SLIP-ON exhaust instead of a FULL exhaust,would you still have tune the bike?
They do not make slip on units for this machine. The stock exhaust is all one piece. The answer according to revzilla and Akrapovic would be no you do not need to tune but if you want better performance and less of a chance of running your engine lean, get it tuned.
@@BradTheBuilderChannel Thank you for taking the time out of your day to answer my question, You have a new subscriber ride safe brother.
Hey Brad, I picked up a 2022 MT-07 a few days ago and have an Akro system on the way. I've heard complaints about the Power Commander 6 so I was going to grab a PC5, but on a couple of sites (like Revzilla) it says it's incompatible and direct me to the PC6. Do you think the fuel tables changed between the 2020-21 and 22 models? It doesn't hurt that it's $125 bucks cheaper.
I used this video as white noise to go to sleep
The bikes computer will self adjust, no need for a tune, those plugs looked just fine.
Think this will work for a 2022 xsr700
This is nearly an identical Moto. Mostly just cosmetically different.
And if you are asking specifically about a Power Commander, yes, it is likely the same, but be sure to check before purchase.
My brand new 2023 mt07 with 2 miles backfires when i decelerate with a stock exhaust 😢. What is the stands you're using on your bike?
That's normal for every bike
@@knifetoucher not happening on my dhcati hypermotard 950
@@kellyd1910 you should get that checked out
Great video
Stock mapping is ALWAYS to lean - it helps to bring fuel consumption down and meet emissions. That is how politicans are killing our engines :-(
I would tune even a bike with stock exhaust ;-P
Especially that Yamaha's throttle mapping is usually trash out of the box and you can fix it while your at it...
haha , i told you , right again
How about to install AFR meter. No need poll plugs. 🥸