this is a great breakdown for all 6 jumps! i have all of my singles (except axel) and currently fixing my flutz which is very frustrating and challenging 😅lately i have been holding the outside edge longer and better which is good. is it possible for you guys to make a video on how to fix a flutz?
@@koorb4891 i learnt my first single (salchow) some time in 2021, then i got my toe loop and loop as well in the same year. my jump progression was a bit slow because my former coach mainly focused on edges, turns and footwork. i would getting really tired from doing edges and footowork that i couldn't do my jumps properly. i switched coaches in late 2022 and got my flip and lutz then. so i guess u could say it took me about 2 years to get all of my singles.
I'm loving the videos from this channel! I've been binge watching your videos. It would also be helpful to include slow-mo replays of the exercises/jumps/skills you show. Even though you explain everything well, I'm a visual learner and some of the replays are too fast for my eyes 🙈
thank you for this!! I just learned my first jump (Waltz jump). Is it normal at this stage to still have difficulty identifying the different jumps? Axel is distinctive but despite watching many videos, I am still a bit unsure of the others. Would at least now be able to tell between edge and toe pick jumps.
Completely normal! After a while it becomes really easy to spot as you become more familiar with the take offs and entries. Hope this lesson helps you a little bit!
It all looks easy and lovely, until I'm the one on the ice, the sole idea of jumping is scary. I'm gonna start with the salchow and loop jump and see from there.
Not sure what Coach is getting at here, but the first jump you will learn is the bunny hop. Don't skip that, or any of the seemingly minor hops/jumps. Learn that and practice 50 hops per skating session until you can do it aggressively and without fear. Next is toe tap hops. Get really good at those easy hops. The first actual jump (as opposed to hop) to learn is the waltz-jump. Triple kill that and really work on it and get good. It's easy enough to do, but to get really good and comfortable with it will take some time. Do 100 waltz-jumps per skating session. After you're good, learn how to waltz-jump more aggressively, get the swinging leg working, get the arms folding during rotation, land with a full clean half-turn rather than a sloppy quarter turn, get something started on the landing pose. If you will put in that prep on those easy jumps you will be way ahead of the game moving on. Toe-loop and half-flip are very easy. You shouldn't take too long to get those. if you are taking too long it's because you have a lousy coach, look elsewhere, and elsewhere, and elsewhere. Salchow is the most challenging beginner jump. Save that one for last. Of course, Axel is always last, that's not a beginner jump. Coach advising you to start with a salchow is perplexing. We can see by your comment that you're a non-jumper, and coach knows that Waltz-jump is always the first jump to learn, so for her to suggest to start with a salchow is an example of the poor quality of ice skate coaching that is prevalent. The only way I can interpret her advice as being on the level is if she doesn't consider a waltz-jump to be a jump....except she knows it is. For coach to advise a non-jumper to start with a salchow is, at best, misinformation no matter how you slice it. Maybe Coach hired some non-skater (like her mother or something) to respond to comments.
@@TheLarryBrown Oh yeah I forgot to mention I can do nice walz jumps. I'm talking about what comes beyond that but I'm now working on defeating the fear rotating on the blind side while doing the backwards inside turn in preparation for a future salchow.
@@SaccoBelmonteWell unless Coach knew that somehow my comments are still relevant. This past session I had a coach take me to the wall and step through the salchow and it was highly helpful to understanding the sequence of moves. Working through the sequence on the wall, I found I was way clumsy, hesitating and turning my feet the wrong way. This was the first time anyone had worked through it on the wall with me and I realized I would never be able to do it on the free ice with just some coach demonstrating the jump to me a time or two. Get your coach to walk you through it on the wall!
I don't really understand what you wrote about "on the blind side," but if you're a beginner jumper, forget about salchow and instead work on the toe-loop and half-flip. Assuming you haven't yet mastered those two, that's the place to start. One other point: Most of these jumps, including the salchow, the actual jump is the same as, or at least very similar to, a waltz-jump. You take off from the left toe pick while it is facing forward. That's true even if they call it an "edge" jump. It may help you to think of it that way and thus avoid making it more complicated than it is. Coach Julia makes a big point about "leading with the heel," and an unwanted "waltz-jump with a fancy entrance," or "a cheated toe-loop." Some other coaches don't make those points. I know a knowledgeable UA-cam coach that doesn't make those points, and even under repeated questioning says he doesn't teach that and has had no problems with his students getting dinged by judges, and he thinks that "leading with the heel" idea is something unique to America. Assuming Coach Julia is right (and she almost always will be), the difference between an unwanted "waltz-jump with a fancy entrance" and a proper toe-loop is very small. Even if you buy into her advice (and you always should), it may be helpful to think of it and execute it as a waltz-jump to get started, and once you've got it going then work on refining the "leading with the heel" part. The point I'm making is these jumps are really waltz-jumps at the critical moment. Another point that I want to stress that I see a lot of people misunderstand, is that you take off from the left toe-pick while it's facing forward...just like a waltz-jump. Yes, that's true even for the salchow. If you need proof, just play the video at 0.25x and you will see that the left blade leaves the ice with the toe-pick facing forward, and only the toe-pick is touching the ice, meaning that's where the jump happens.
So technicallt a salchow jump is a forward jump too, right? Because you kinda have a half turn before jumping. Also do you have to put down the right foot edge when doing the slachow? Our trainer shows us the salchow with the foot not touching the eyes but staying up...
Thanks for taking back to when me son use to skate. He reached novice level skating pairs. Then his partner went to college. He tried dance before he went to college. If he started adult skating would he have to take all the Adult tests?
I have been trying the lutz from Bach cross over, keep right over left leg, tap with my right, then I can't control and need up doing a half Lutz. I will try to do it with power pull like you. It seems that I will have less thing to think about. 😂 Thanks again
you should do a video like you did for the loop but with salchows! i just finally figured out the traditional entry for my loop but the two-footed entry for salchows is still a little odd to me (i kinda hate them in general tbh lol)
Great tutorial! ❤🙏🏻 Does any other entry exist for lutz jump? I have no problems to jump a flip, but somehow I cannot get over the fear to jump a lutz 😔
Very nitpicky. Pronunciation changes depending on the language you speak. For example, French people pronounce Paris as “Pa-REE,” whereas Americans in English say “PAIR-iss.” Same goes for pronunciation of these terms that are based on names. 🤷🏼♀️ It’s really not that important.
@@mistym0rning Not nitpicky. Paris was "loaned" into the English language befor the French started saying Pa-REE. Some place names are not even the same in, say, English and the language of the country where the place is. Livorno - Leghorn. But names of living people and of people from modern times (Salchow is dead, but he died in 1949, not 1149), you actually try to pronounce it properly. One of your recent presidents made a point of pronouncing Iraq and Iran as "I ran" and "I rack", and it was the general view in Europe that he did it out of spite.
Shoutout to the cameraperson! Great content and great filming angles too.
Much appreciated! Thank you ☺️
i'm not a skater but i do classical ballet so likee lowkey gonna slay when i try these for the first time i go ice skating in 6 years . obviously
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Great video. Kind of morphed from a "how to recognize them" to "how to do them," but I like that.
Glad you enjoyed it!❤️❤️
this is a great breakdown for all 6 jumps! i have all of my singles (except axel) and currently fixing my flutz which is very frustrating and challenging 😅lately i have been holding the outside edge longer and better which is good. is it possible for you guys to make a video on how to fix a flutz?
Wow, how long did it take to get basically all of your singles?
@@koorb4891 i learnt my first single (salchow) some time in 2021, then i got my toe loop and loop as well in the same year. my jump progression was a bit slow because my former coach mainly focused on edges, turns and footwork. i would getting really tired from doing edges and footowork that i couldn't do my jumps properly. i switched coaches in late 2022 and got my flip and lutz then. so i guess u could say it took me about 2 years to get all of my singles.
@@zozo0001 dang, pretty cool
Great to hear and we definitely need to do a video on that 👍❤️
Footwork
5:45 - Axel Jump
7:50 - Toe Loop Jump
9:16 - Flip Jump
I'm loving the videos from this channel! I've been binge watching your videos.
It would also be helpful to include slow-mo replays of the exercises/jumps/skills you show. Even though you explain everything well, I'm a visual learner and some of the replays are too fast for my eyes 🙈
Great suggestion!❤️❤️❤️
FYI: You can set UA-cam to show you the video in slo-mo. 0.25x
@@TheLarryBrown tried that still kinda too fast for me
I dont even know how to skate, so why am i waching this..... but for real i think this is my new hobby. Keep making great tutorials:)
Welcome aboard! 😉❤️❤️❤️
6:10 brought back memories we used to do that in the open gate and have to hang out up there for a few seconds
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I just love this channel. Like there's such a chill vibe and I'm here for it. Thanks for the video!!
Glad you enjoy it! ❤️❤️❤️
Dialing in the nutrition helps CRUSH those jumps as well! Great video!
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thank you for this!!
I just learned my first jump (Waltz jump).
Is it normal at this stage to still have difficulty identifying the different jumps?
Axel is distinctive but despite watching many videos, I am still a bit unsure of the others. Would at least now be able to tell between edge and toe pick jumps.
Completely normal! After a while it becomes really easy to spot as you become more familiar with the take offs and entries. Hope this lesson helps you a little bit!
It all looks easy and lovely, until I'm the one on the ice, the sole idea of jumping is scary. I'm gonna start with the salchow and loop jump and see from there.
Definitely start with the salchow and loop ❤️❤️ let us know how you go with the others
Not sure what Coach is getting at here, but the first jump you will learn is the bunny hop. Don't skip that, or any of the seemingly minor hops/jumps. Learn that and practice 50 hops per skating session until you can do it aggressively and without fear. Next is toe tap hops. Get really good at those easy hops. The first actual jump (as opposed to hop) to learn is the waltz-jump. Triple kill that and really work on it and get good. It's easy enough to do, but to get really good and comfortable with it will take some time. Do 100 waltz-jumps per skating session. After you're good, learn how to waltz-jump more aggressively, get the swinging leg working, get the arms folding during rotation, land with a full clean half-turn rather than a sloppy quarter turn, get something started on the landing pose. If you will put in that prep on those easy jumps you will be way ahead of the game moving on. Toe-loop and half-flip are very easy. You shouldn't take too long to get those. if you are taking too long it's because you have a lousy coach, look elsewhere, and elsewhere, and elsewhere. Salchow is the most challenging beginner jump. Save that one for last. Of course, Axel is always last, that's not a beginner jump.
Coach advising you to start with a salchow is perplexing. We can see by your comment that you're a non-jumper, and coach knows that Waltz-jump is always the first jump to learn, so for her to suggest to start with a salchow is an example of the poor quality of ice skate coaching that is prevalent. The only way I can interpret her advice as being on the level is if she doesn't consider a waltz-jump to be a jump....except she knows it is. For coach to advise a non-jumper to start with a salchow is, at best, misinformation no matter how you slice it. Maybe Coach hired some non-skater (like her mother or something) to respond to comments.
@@TheLarryBrown Oh yeah I forgot to mention I can do nice walz jumps. I'm talking about what comes beyond that but I'm now working on defeating the fear rotating on the blind side while doing the backwards inside turn in preparation for a future salchow.
@@SaccoBelmonteWell unless Coach knew that somehow my comments are still relevant. This past session I had a coach take me to the wall and step through the salchow and it was highly helpful to understanding the sequence of moves. Working through the sequence on the wall, I found I was way clumsy, hesitating and turning my feet the wrong way. This was the first time anyone had worked through it on the wall with me and I realized I would never be able to do it on the free ice with just some coach demonstrating the jump to me a time or two. Get your coach to walk you through it on the wall!
I don't really understand what you wrote about "on the blind side," but if you're a beginner jumper, forget about salchow and instead work on the toe-loop and half-flip. Assuming you haven't yet mastered those two, that's the place to start. One other point: Most of these jumps, including the salchow, the actual jump is the same as, or at least very similar to, a waltz-jump. You take off from the left toe pick while it is facing forward. That's true even if they call it an "edge" jump. It may help you to think of it that way and thus avoid making it more complicated than it is. Coach Julia makes a big point about "leading with the heel," and an unwanted "waltz-jump with a fancy entrance," or "a cheated toe-loop." Some other coaches don't make those points. I know a knowledgeable UA-cam coach that doesn't make those points, and even under repeated questioning says he doesn't teach that and has had no problems with his students getting dinged by judges, and he thinks that "leading with the heel" idea is something unique to America. Assuming Coach Julia is right (and she almost always will be), the difference between an unwanted "waltz-jump with a fancy entrance" and a proper toe-loop is very small. Even if you buy into her advice (and you always should), it may be helpful to think of it and execute it as a waltz-jump to get started, and once you've got it going then work on refining the "leading with the heel" part. The point I'm making is these jumps are really waltz-jumps at the critical moment. Another point that I want to stress that I see a lot of people misunderstand, is that you take off from the left toe-pick while it's facing forward...just like a waltz-jump. Yes, that's true even for the salchow. If you need proof, just play the video at 0.25x and you will see that the left blade leaves the ice with the toe-pick facing forward, and only the toe-pick is touching the ice, meaning that's where the jump happens.
So technicallt a salchow jump is a forward jump too, right? Because you kinda have a half turn before jumping.
Also do you have to put down the right foot edge when doing the slachow? Our trainer shows us the salchow with the foot not touching the eyes but staying up...
You can use your free leg either slightly touching the ice or not touching the ice. It’s honestly what works best for you ❤️❤️
Thanks for taking back to when me son use to skate. He reached novice level skating pairs. Then his partner went to college. He tried dance before he went to college. If he started adult skating would he have to take all the Adult tests?
Thank you for sharing with us ❤️ I’m not exactly sure and would check with a coach at your rink. They should definitely get back into skating 👍❤️
I have been trying the lutz from Bach cross over, keep right over left leg, tap with my right, then I can't control and need up doing a half Lutz. I will try to do it with power pull like you. It seems that I will have less thing to think about. 😂
Thanks again
Thanks for sharing and hopefully it helps ❤️
you should do a video like you did for the loop but with salchows! i just finally figured out the traditional entry for my loop but the two-footed entry for salchows is still a little odd to me (i kinda hate them in general tbh lol)
Great idea 👍❤️ will add it to the list
Great tutorial! ❤🙏🏻 Does any other entry exist for lutz jump? I have no problems to jump a flip, but somehow I cannot get over the fear to jump a lutz 😔
Thank you ❤️ try Woking on lutz off the ice and build confidence 👍
Epic!
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'Scuse me, but Salchow is pronounced sal-cohv (not sal-cow)
and Lutz is pronounced Lootz (not Lahtz).
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Every American Olympic announcer (and skater) has always pronounced it "sal-cow."
@@TheLarryBrown That says more about Americans than about anything else.
Very nitpicky. Pronunciation changes depending on the language you speak. For example, French people pronounce Paris as “Pa-REE,” whereas Americans in English say “PAIR-iss.” Same goes for pronunciation of these terms that are based on names. 🤷🏼♀️ It’s really not that important.
@@mistym0rning Not nitpicky. Paris was "loaned" into the English language befor the French started saying Pa-REE. Some place names are not even the same in, say, English and the language of the country where the place is. Livorno - Leghorn.
But names of living people and of people from modern times (Salchow is dead, but he died in 1949, not 1149), you actually try to pronounce it properly. One of your recent presidents made a point of pronouncing Iraq and Iran as "I ran" and "I rack", and it was the general view in Europe that he did it out of spite.