Mom Had No Idea Her Son Is Actually The Killer
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This is 17-year-old Gavon Ramsay brought in for interrogation after he was apprehended in the case of 98 Year old Margaret Douglas.
Before the interrogation could properly commence, Gavon wastes no time to begin his facade of innocence. What the detectives were unaware of at the time was that they were sitting in front of a monster with morbid fantasies.
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Imagine managing to live until youre 98 and still clearheaded and then murdered by some punk kid. How sad.
thats exactly what happened to me in my last life. I was about to reach level 100
yea i wonder if she owned a gun & coulda protected herself ,i’m guessing she didn’t
@@beautifuldisaster139It may be one of the reasons she lived to be h98. Peaceful and without unreasonable fear of the unknown. Guns are not always the answer. Even gun owners can be killed by animals like this kid
@@beautifuldisaster139protected herself how? He was standing over her when she woke up. A gun wouldn't have helped her.
@@beautifuldisaster139 My grandma is 89, and as clearheaded as she is, there's no way she could manipulate a gun well enough to get accurate shots off. People really underestimate how difficult it is to shoot straight, especially under duress!
Honestly shooting a gun would probably break my grandma's wrists or make her fall at the very least. People this old are delicate
These detectives stopped a serial killer at #1.
100 💯
Great comment, this needs all the likes.
Glad he was caught.
Yeah, because the idiot was dumb enough to document his crime.
Exactly
Sexually assaulting a 98 year old woman is the most vile thing I’ve heard in a while.
anyone let alone a 98 yr old.
Proves women are NEVER safe
DISGUSTING… how does anyone even get turned on??? WTF 🤢
@@dan-fr9dn of course anyone getting assaulted is terrible but a 98 year old woman is just….ugh. Doing terrible things to children or the elderly is just a whole other level of evil.
Its getting pathetic that people can't say rape, by not saying the word you're taking away the impact of it.
Exactly!
Yeah, that's pretty much the point of it, the word isn't meant to make the rapists shiver in their boots for what they did, the victims are the ones that get triggered and relive their worst moments when hearing that word or mentions of it
@@single_use_planet_ but so what? Calling it any other things with the intent of it being the thing probably triggers the same reaction.
@@single_use_planet_ lol, no
Yeah, I feel like you should call it what it is. It’s one of the most heinous crimes men (it almost always is) commit. Like not saying the word won’t take away the repulsiveness of the crime…it sort of just undermines it imo
The fact that he sexually assaulted her makes it even worse.
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sexually assaulting an old woman s so evil
Old dead @@sam-fc9ky
Gross
Thanks captain obvious
Imagine surviving a world war, the great depression, several recessions and global pandemics only to be killed by a little 17 year old punk kid. 🤦♂️
@@ritzacra5693ok if you want to be pedantic go ahead. And she survived two world wars
@@ritzacra5693there have been other pandemics/epidemics bro 😭😭
I don’t think the word punk really captures what this guy is.
@@deconto8463nah, Covid was the only one.....vaccines and history are liberal conspiracy theories
@@ritzacra5693 She survived multiple pandemic's rubella, polio measles.... etc just to name a few
He can NOT be rehabilitated. His violent crimes will just escalate.
I wouldn't go that far..... I was similar to him when I was younger. But I'm nothing like that now. I'm 45.
@@gimmethepinkelephant3685 Violent thought...thoughts about killing I get it, but actually killing and sexually assaulting is crazy.
How do you escalate from that wtf sick
The thing is the brain is a super computer. It is constantly back processing info. It will toss random shit out there for us to evaluate. It is up to us to keep that in check. The sad thing is someone like this was too embarrassed to share it and get help processing. So instead he marinates in it thinking he is a bad person all the while letting this shit take root.Too bad he didn't just put it into a novel like Stephen Kimg or something. Sad.
It is what it is , cannot change..........
Margaret was an amazing woman. Imagine living to almost 100 and still taking care of yourself and not relying on any kids, grandkids, or great grandkids. That in itself is an inspiration and I rather look at this remarkable woman that way instead of the way she left this world.
You people out there with these kind of answers make me sick. I don’t think you even care if she was murdered. Oh you’re so happy that she lived great 98 years. That’s not the point the point is she could’ve been eight years old, this is murder doesn’t that just make you sick. But your attitude makes me sick.
@@JamesRaftery-kp6my look here. We have a holier-than-thou saint. If you don't know the meaning of "an memoriam" then you're a very, very, depressing person and people like you are the reason that makes the world a little worse.
@@JamesRaftery-kp6myno, you want her to glorify a murderer instead? She is choosing to remember this victim by the remarkable and long life she lived before some mentally ill kid took her life. You should be ok with this because the outcome is done and cannot be changed. Its your attitude coming here and being ugly to a stranger that should be checked. Yes she was murdered. But this person you are berating is choosing to remember her for her long life, not by her brutal exit. This is a coping strategy. Please be kind.
so true ❤
She never had kids.
If someone sexually assaulted my grandma there’s no way they’re making it to prison. Absolutely disgusting
That’s not being tough, that’s being honest, and expressing his anger, It’s often a figure of speech. Imagine what that dear ladies family are going through, knowing what their loved one had been through. It would be etched in your mind for ever.
And not just assault her, but did it after she was dead. This kid is evil
@WendyHannan-pt7ez The lady's family? I mean, obviously, they don't care as much as my guy Quade. If it was his granny, that guy would have never made it to prison. Since this murderer made it to prison, we can assume the family barely cared at all. I bet if Quade was on a hijacked flight during 9/11, those towers would still be standing. He's a real man.
I'm sure prison will bless him
@slowprodigy you sound like you side with the perp.
"I don't wanna live at home anymore."
Heyyyy no problem there bud.
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Wanna move out? As you wish, bucko!
For real, grasp severity much? Lol
Yep. I was going to post the same thing. He'll be living some place else alright. Jail. Where every waking hour hell be told what to do and worried who is going to make him a bitch. Even in his sleep he'll be on alert. This is what you worked toward. Stop crying. No one feels sorry for you. Punk.
Imagine finding out that your 17 yr old cell mate did those things to a 98 yr old , helpless woman.
Imagine what he must feel like being someone's prison b!tch. You know the guards made sure that people knew why he was there
He's fucked 😂😂
The convicts will get t him.
@@williamlitzinger1989 no hes not. if it was a kid he would be fucked
@flyingcat3170 yes he will. A grandma is just as bad. People will think about their grandma and will do something that sounds like ape to this kid until they unalive him
He's pretty good at playing their emotions, for a 17 y/o. It's all an act. The crocodile tears and saying what he thinks he's supposed to be feeling, but can't do it accurately because he doesn't actually feel those emotions. He's very calculating and callous. Had he not been caught this time, he undoubtedly would've kept honing his skills and practicing. Terrifying. I mean, he looks and sounds like a normal, if not troubled, teenager and he's playing the part well. It's hard to look at him and reconcile that with the horrific things he did to thai poor woman. Diabolical. This is one instance where I would plead for the death penalty. He even said an eye for an eye. He doesn't deserve to be on earth anymore. This is not fixable, he is not rehabilitatable. Pure evil.
"calculating" drops a glove and videotaped everything he had done on his phone, brother are you ret#rd*d?
💯 percent agreed!!!
You said it best! 👏
Antisocial Personality Disorder is in fact incurable as you say.
@@generegan2899 He is more than antisocial.
So he says he's morally opposed to a 40-year-old hitting on a 17-year-old, but murders and violates a 96-year-old. Okay, no.
He is ageist, just like the students who beat up their teacher for not allowing phones in class. He thinks him and all other minors can do no wrong, social media tells them that being young makes them pure and superior. It's disgusting and dangerous.
@@spring7643You do realize stuff like this has been going on for centuries right? This isn’t new. Stop blaming everything on social media. Y’all act like this stuff never happened before social media. And no social media didn’t make them act like they can do no wrong. The laws and certain rules are why they act superior and think they can do no wrong. The laws give them multiple warnings and they get chance after chance after chance. They get slaps on the wrist.
Of course he is. Chronic victimhood is the trend of the 2020s
@niicolee06 have you seen SM lately? How many tik tok trends involve a **crime**?
Society Needs to STOP coddling 16,17 year Olds like they're little innocent babies that Don't know right from wrong. Yes, there may be Ongoing cognitive development, But there Should be a basic morality present at this age,.. society is Incongruent, I think,.. I mean at 16 one can drive a dangerous car, Could hurt people in it's improper operation, Trusted with That at 16, But you can't buy cigarettes, at 17 I believe you can join the military and be given a machine gun and sent somewhere to kill people, But you can't legally drink alcohol, buy cigs And have physical relations? This psychotic punk preaches about a "40 yr. old guy trying to " Get" with a 17 yr. old" as if THAT is the highest state of Depravity, But the little , Precious, "Good kid" as Ms. Piggy states ( if this "POS" is a "Good kid", then there is NO such thing as a "Bad kid") has No sense of guilt for his Heinous acts. He may be upset, Only because little, precious, innocent by Age little 17 yr. old is paradoxically Old enough to know his "goose is cooked".
Upset because he ruined HIS life, not because he took HER life.
Upset realising he got caught too soon and not after multiple victims - the status he probably was looking to achieve
That’s usually how it goes from what I’ve seen. “Your not sorry you did it, your sorry you got caught” always comes to mind in these situations.
How does someone get that evil that young?
Psychopath
did we watch the same video ? he is upset that he is a f up. That he ruins everone elses life. His family, the victims. He is clearly mentally ill. But still sane in moments to realise how much of a f up he is.
I'm not saying he is good for that. But i am saying that i feel sorry for him as well as all the victims in this. Maybe if the world had more focus on kids and their mental state and upcoming, this could have been prevented completely.
I have a 94 year old friend. If someone did this to her, theyre not going to prison, I am.
Theyre going straight to hell.
Damn straight!
He starts crying and getting angry when confronted with his actions is truly narc behavior
Or he didnt do it, and they got to blame someone
@@RunningGrass-we7tmyou sound pretty fucking stupid lol. There’s literal video evidence
@@RunningGrass-we7tm shut up lmao.
A narc is a snitch, as in a narcotics officer. What you said makes no sense.
@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561
Its short for Narcissistic/Narcissist( Now Days).
But I get your point, but I'm old. Lol hahaha 🤣
Mom says, "she has stranger danger issues" and yet, her son living in her home was the DANGER.
The irony
Why does all bad shìt happen in ohio
@SkinWitchNYC // Unfortunately, it's everywhere, but we do see a lot of videos that happened in Ohio.
@SkinWitchNYC maybe it's that portal to hell in ohio.probably unleashing demons in people....neva know.
Shows she wasn't watching her thug demented son
You NEVER see the reaction of mom realizing her son is a killer. I hate clickbait titles like this crap.
That's what I was thinking too. 🤔😒
Sounds like a reading comprehension issue.
Yeah the thumbnail is incredibly clickbaity
THANK YOU
ty for the time save
His mom wasn't even comforting him during his breakdown. Thats pretty telling.
Yes I found that interesting. His delay at answering the questions, his evasiveness … his tears… I don’t know why she didn’t look at him and ask him what was going on and each out to pat his arm or something.
She's probably seen that act a 100 times.
I think she's in shock and possibly realizing all the times he has lied
Autistic people generally do not like to be touched.
U can tell by the way she kept looking at him she knew something was up
Please place the sponsor before the case starts, it's so unserious and jarring when it's in the middle of an investigation and the tone shifts.
Yes please. I thought the same thing. Had to skip cause I just couldn’t put up with it after such an intro
SHUT UP!!
As a former ward of the California youth authority, this guy should not be paroled. I don't think there is any treatment that can fix him. Releasing him would be a huge mistake.
he got LWOP life without parole
They got rid of CYA now. Only 16/17 year olds could be charged as adults. Anyone under 16 is charged as a juvenile which means they could only remain in custody until they're 25. Every 6 months they have hearings to determine if they get 6 months waived determined by their participation in programs and behavior... Kids can commit insane crimes and still get released by 25yrs of age.
He IS sociopathic of which there really isn’t a cure.
@@victorandrade7940Yikes…
They released the kid that shot up the high school here in my little town in Tennessee and killed the principal. He has been in trouble many times and has completely lost his mind.
He's the kind of person who should never get out of prison.
No, he should be under the prison
He should be 6 feet under
I agree with the "6 feet under" comments. Do to him what he did to her. Sad.
He should be free
And be assaulted repeatedly in prison.
I don't understand how any human being could see this and still be against the death penalty.
Well because I don't think any government should have that power to take life. Plus innocent people have been wrongly convicted, many which were on death row and exonerated thanks to DNA. Think of all the innocent people killed, wrongly. Now we know he's guilty, but plenty others which people THINK they know are guilty, and are not.
@@chaoticprogressi completely agree, with that being said, i think if there is enough evidence (video proof, dna, etc.) than there should be a death penalty.
If you admit to a crime and all the evidence points towards it and said a crime is taking another person‘s life, I believe somebody’s life should be taken for it. If there is even the slightest chance that the court system could be wrong, then they get life in prison.
Seems simple enough
The second she asked “have you been in her house?” He said “no” then she asked “so we won’t find your dna in her house?” The second he said “ you shouldn’t” I yelled guilty!!
Not necessarily . A person can be paranoid that someone is planting evidence .
If he did this at 17 imagine what this psychopath is going to do when he gets out in his 40's.
never ever should be free or breath again
@@myopinion6092he said it himself an eye for an eye.
Typical.... That's what they do
@@_long.live.ryanne_4836 you want an old lady to do that to him?
He may not get out, its just a possibility due to the bill that passed. But always a chance he wont be approved
Imagine living to be 98 and still living independently, watching the entire 1900’s happen and everything that went with it…only to be murdered by a punk like this. Like is not fair.
I said exactly the same comment, it's insane
I can’t imagine it!
I don't know if everyone realizes just how frail people in their 90's are....this crime is unspeakable it's so disgusting.
and defile her battered body after brutally murdering her. it’s really unimaginable. that poor sweet lady. the horror she went thru likely trying to fight & being overpowered, nobody to save her 😔 god, her last moments were torture physically & mentally.
she hoped to make it to 100 just to be murdered she had 2 years two years untill she made it to her goal and he murdered her tearing up currently
The kid from my little town here in Tennessee that shot up the high school and killed the principal got released. He’s been in trouble multiple times since his release and has completely lost his mind. Type in Kenny Bartley and you can see how many times he’s been in and out of jail since his release :
I firmly believe two things:
1: Kenny purposely shot and killer someone, got a new trial and was released with fine served after serving only 9 years. When he got out he started dating his counselor!!! That all started when he was released in 2014. In 2016 he was arrested for assaulting his parents. He has been in and out of jail multiple times since his release. Why? Because he MURDERED someone and got away with serving 45 years. So now he thinks he can get away with his deplorable acts of violence and get a slap on the wrist.
2: PRISON DOES NOT REHABILITATE!!!
Absolutely evil. He needs to never be let out of prison..EVER. Sick twisted bastard. RIP to the sweet woman who lost her life 😢🙏🏼😞
Demonic Possession is real
This guy should never be let out of prison.... he is a sick, psychopath. Disgusting what he did to that lady. May she rest in Peace. 😢
Old girl probably had it coming to her. I suppose the cheek clapping was doing too much but to each their own.
He's murdered someone but he's told to stop cussing?
What psyche meds was this kid on?
Likely a least 1 pharma
@@sallyyexley9627 That’s unfair. His mother was telling him to not “disrespect” the solemnity of this meeting or the people he was talking to: she used that term. She has no clue at that point that he was involved in the crime against this lady. She just assumes the police are rounding up local bad boys like him and excluding them.
The sickest, biggest and weakest cowards are those who hurt children and elderly people! Unforgivable
Amen. They prey on the weak & vulnerable.
As Well as Innocent Animals
@@lisapecaskie9089 Thank you ! ❤❤❤
@@lisapecaskie9089 I came here to comment the same , innocent critters. 🐕 🐈 etc.
@@lisapecaskie9089I was just about to add this! Thank you.
She was probably a practice run for future victims. He cowardly chose a 98 yr old woman because he would be able to easily overpower her.
this level of depravity is beyond disturbing and disgusting. I hope his new home is under the jail, not in it. RIP poor Margaret, my deepest condolences to her family, friends, and loved ones.
The horror of suddenly realizing YOUR child did all the horrible things you’ve been talking about.
So long as they don't cuss, its disrespectful.
Ugh ikr?! She must’ve been so completely devastated.. I could only imagine ugh 😩
@@nicholasagnew2792That's not a fair comment. The mothervdid not "create" the monster her child became and she did not know what he did. Her comment about his cursing showed that she raised him right. He is just a psychopath.
@@nicholasagnew2792She’s that worried about cussing, imagine how she felt when she found out the truth
I misses the part where the mother heard what her son did and when hid mother was devastated,
I hate that these people are always so upset about how they ruined their lives but have no thought about their victims lives.
Not just their victims, the victims' family and friends. The family and friends have to live with it for the rest of their lives. ☹️
classic psychopath
Shouldn’t surprise you. Had he been capable of feeling for the victim and her family, he wouldn’t have murdered her.
That’s psychopathy for you. Zero remorse, just frustration at their own failures of getting caught.
That’s the first thing I took from that. He’s mad about ruining his life apposed to the fact he took a life and ruined a family.
God bless the deceased lady, and I hope they don't ever let this guy out of prison. He ruined 2 family lives, and now they'll have to live with his actions.
Wow! The revelations when he started to confess. On top of her choking her, ripping her underwear, let’s not even talk about the sexual assault 😮in the house for several hours. Is he even human?
Poor Margaret.
The terror she would have felt at 98 years old in her final moments. Horrible.
Indescribable terror. She knew she couldn't fight him off.🥺
Could you imagine waking up on your couch and noticing someone videoing you.....this is so disturbing. I hope she rests in peace..
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I'm sorry. He's sorry. You're sorry. They're sorry. EVERYBODY'S SORRY. But no one seems to ever be ashamed.
Apparently there isn't any shame in this world anymore. Sad but true.
You need a moral compass to feel shame. So many are born without nowadays.
Parents are here to teach and guide their children to be upstanding citizens. Babies are a blank slate shaped by the parents, the children learn by watching and imitating what they see and hear from their parents.
@@kayfurlano1462 this kid was a bad seed. his mom was a decent person.
Pee Wee Herman: "I'm NOT sorry!"
“I have Stranger Danger issues.” Mom, it’s not the strangers you have to worry about…
This is exactly why I think middle aged women should always do the interrogation. There’s something about a calm maternal demeanor that could get anybody talking.
This makes me sick. My grandmother was 82 when her 38 year old neighbor, whom she knew and trusted, raped her in her own home. This event set her into such a spin she developed Alzheimer's. He was up for 25-life. Because my grandmother could not testify against him there was a plea deal. He served 10 years. I stayed with her 24/7 for two weeks. She would talk to me about what happened at night while she was laying in bed. I sat with her and wrote every word she said, every single night. I was one of a few family members that gave victim impact statements at his sentencing. I spoke about all of the details she had shared with me on all of the nights...her fears, her panic, her shame, & her disbelief. I pointed out how his family members who gave their impact statements on his behalf were lies. Stuff they literally made up. I gave facts based on his own words to my grandmother that night. I actually got an ovation from people that were in that courtroom. My grandmother died 2 years later.
10years, that is sad and bad. Really hope that Karma serves better justice.
That’s awful. So sorry. Grandmas are the best ❤
It was awful she went through that but I’m glad you were there to provide support for her. I hope she is at peace now.
It makes me sick how lenient the sentences are for rapists.
I’m really very sorry to hear this,poor little thing ❤❤
Wow. That is heartbreaking. I'm so sorry you - and her - went through this. My mouth is left hanging open at the words you have written and at how cruel the world can seem at times. I'm so glad she had you to hold onto and that his family heard how he affected her, even if it couldn't be from her direct testimony. You did her proud. ❤
He’s not “upset” until he knows he’s been caught. And he’s worried about the fact he’s “ruined my life”. No care about the life he took.
Exactly.
right i caught that too "im 17 and i've ruined my life"...that poor lady way 98 and he took hers!!!
That’s exactly what I thought
Psycho traits guyssss
So true, he’s ruined his life, that’s all he cares about. selfish sick piece of work he is.
Imagine being killed by someone who wasnt even born when you were 80, thats sad
He filmed himself doing all of that to her? 👿 and then he had the nerve to cry and be dramatic in the interrogation room? Disgusting. Hope the inmates get him good
he's mad at himself because he got caught. crocodile tears
Exactly God knows what he did before he got caught!
I thought he was Clay Jenson!
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Exactly
YES !!
Thank You for giving Margaret her voice and dignity back.
People often dehumanize the victims.
well said
lol videos like this always sensationalise the killers, and includes all the gory details as if the victims' deaths are more worthwhile to talk about than their lives.
This particular video is fine; not nearly the worst I've seen. But let's be real... "True crime" is our guilty pleasure. It's doesn't bring any dignity to anyone except maybe the detectives.
@@NorthernRealmJackal I disagree. This video took Margaret's beginning life, her family of origin, her husband, and into the present. That was PRECISELY what this video needed. I never care about _true crime_ interviews except to get a understanding of the psychopath; imagining how to avoid being victim myself (etc) but no kind of guilty pleasure here. It makes me extensively happy to hear detectives or videos humanize the person who was callously murdered. Margaret wasn't _just another person_ but EVERY person who seeks to be counted as being an actual person, not _just_ some random victim who had no kind of consciousness.
Oh yeah
@@NorthernRealmJackal
Yeah that’s why we watch.
I’m not clicking to hear about a woman who plays bridge and enjoys a small sandwich from time to time.
This doesn't make no damn sense. I don't even try to wrap my head around such disgusting things anymore. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that I will never understand horrible humans like this. I am not built like that. It isn't in my DNA to have any understanding of these horrific, disgusting acts of pure evil. This hits a different type of pure evil, though. He is a 17 yr old kid, and he has sexually assaulted and murdered a 98 yr old beautiful human being. It doesn't get any worse than a kid doing this to a elderly woman. It makes my stomach hurt so badly. Then, the mother had to realize that what she had seen going on at this ladies home was her son's handy work. Like how life shattering and just soul snatching would that realization be. She was horrified at what happened to that poor elderly neighbor, and now she finds it all was done by her baby. That has to be one of the worst feelings in the world. Ugh, how sad. Wow, just wow. Definitely was a potential serial killer. Sending prayers to this ladies family ❤ 🙏.
He deserve 98 years in prison
It’s so annoying when the say “I’ve ruined my life.” Welp yah you ended that 98 year old women’s life in a horrible way, ruined the towns peace of mind, and devastated her family.
he has ruined his life though. why is it annoying to be self aware?
@@Tomsm8I think this person is mad because they never say anything about ruining their victims life completely
@piercemccauley7079 I mean, at 98 there isn't really much life left to ruin.
@@Tomsm8he ruined a lot of people’s life
@@piercemccauley7079 I get that, it's just that people often say things for likes and don't think about what they're saying.
A 98 year old woman who was still independent and didn’t rely on others and surviving plenty of very difficult and catastrophic events in the world… just to have her life taken by a 17 year old…
that’s incredibly sad, hope the victims family and friends can recover mentally
Prayers from Sweden 🙏
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Agreed
Agreed
I completely agree. To live to be two years shy of 100 and to have this happened to her. I know it may sound bad but the way he took her life is horrific but the things he did to her after, Thank goodness she didn't have to endure it. The entire situation is extremely scary and heartbreaking.
I'm actually raging out this, I'm absolutely speechless.
I feel terrible for this mom, and for the victim and her family. How horrible. I hope he never gets out.
You feel bad for mom? Let's not forget she raised him and obviously ignored things about him that made her "feel" bad. I hope mom wallows in pain for the rest of her life. I'll bet that boy got whatever he wanted until that day......
@@SaanMigwell you can’t blame his mom for his wrong doings yall get on my nerves with that
@@mariejenkins-stephens6176 can’t control what teenagers that don’t want to listen
@@SaanMigwellHorrible comment about the mother! You don't know how she raised him! Sometimes kids just don't turn out right. He has a sickness. She's not responsible for that.
@@midgie1166 Cry Smore. She is responsible for that, she raised him. duh.
He should never be let out of prison he would kill again such a sick crime
Given his journal entries, I believe that a future serial killer has been stopped at one.
Except he will eligible for parole in a little over 20 or 30yrs... He may have to serve the full time for the additional, charges... but those were only 10yrs each. He may get out in 32 or so years. 🤷🏻♀️. 😑😑
@@feliciagaffney1998 According to the new law I believe it would be him serving 25-35 years on his original sentence (life in prison) + the additional charges adding up to a total 55-65 years.
@@arynbwr ok. That makes sense. I don't know what I was thinking. I was focused on a licencing exam I had this morning. Lol
But, I think he's already been in jail for 2 or 3yrs now, so 52 or so years. I guess that would make him fairly old at that point and institutionalized. So, maybe he'd just rather stay there.
It's rare to witness the testimony of one such as him. Wondering if he has been or is being examined by mental specialists to document what can be learned about him and others like him. So very sad and sorry that Ms. Douglas went through what he did to her. She had earned and deserved nothing but the very best in her life. Tragic.
He'll be on the street in no time! Just wait he'll get paroled!
To think that he'll be eligible for parole while still fairly young is crazy. I hope they never let him out.
I do believe he got "life without." Did the sentence change? (I skip around sometimes)
@nancydaley9646 Yes, the law changed. Juveniles sentenced to life without parole can now get parole after serving 30 years (or something close. I can't recall the exact years).
@@nancydaley9646 A law changed in his state, now anyone sentenced to life under 18 yrs old, can be eligible for parole in 25 to 35 years. I still hope the parole board says no.
@@stinka4079 Oh, I didn't know. I guess it makes sense for most people under 18, but this guy! I can't imagine him acting well in prison for 25-35 years. Plus inmates might not like killers of sweet little elderly ladies.
@@blueb4829 Thanks for filling me in.
Poor Margret! If someone can even harm a defenseless, elderly person they are pure evil! Let alone rape and murder a poor 98 year old woman! What a monster! My grandma lived to be 95 and if anyone had ever laid a finger on her it would have been over for them! Forget jail! 😡🤬
The general public needs to be notified when he gets out on parole. He is a monster that will do harm again…
My grandfather died in 2018 he was 103 years old. He was in the navy and was there when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. I could've imagine losing him in a horrendous way like this.
Our elderly need to be protected and respected.
Omg. I hope he’s left you with great memories.! I’ve always wished I could sit down and talk to someone who witnessed Pearl Harbor.! The movie is one of my favs! May he continue to rest peacefully.
Amen my friend. I feel the same way.
@user-tk4pc6zf2t with all respect for their grandfather's death, war shouldn't be romanticised. You should also sit down with the survivors of hiroshima and nagasaki, the few ones left. No soldier or government should be praised for killing. How many people do u think US and Japanese soldiers raped and brutally killed like the old lady from the video?
I married a retired navy man who experienced Pearl Harbor. We briefly skimmed over the past in leiu of celebrating our lives together in the wonderful present. Love is the answer and solution to death and violence.
Your grandfather was definitely a huge part of the greatest generation. I’m glad you got to spend all those years with him. We will never forget our warriors.
I don’t think it’s worth the money to keep him in prison. Put him 6ft under.
He said he believes in “an eye for an eye”
death penalty actually costs more money than life in prison
Which is absolutely mad and shouldn't be this way@@aplacecalledhometattooing7364
death penalty is far.. far more expensive than life in prison
@@aplacecalledhometattooing7364 Only because the process is fraught with legal challenges. Horse and cattle thieves used to face death, and that was when we were a strictly moral and religious people.
He's at Grafton correctional institution in Northern Ohio. First parole date is 2043. He has 21 to life he won't get out
For a woman who lived 98 years to go out like that.... disgusting
Aside from the fact he is a necrophiliac murderer, its also very cringe how he hid all the crime photos in an app file called "DARK" with password "MURDER"
I'm curious how they got the password. Was it simply good detective work guessing on a hunch? Seems like it would be a long and maybe impossible process to subpoena records from the necessary internet providers, websites, phone carriers, etc. Obviously he didn't volunteer it. I wish they hadn't glossed over that. I've seen very similar scenarios with phones on other crime videos. Seems like you could make an entire Forensic Files episode on that part of the case alone.
@@D-Fens_1632 I'd say they might of subpoena the app for the password. They also could've just hacked the app. Not sure on the guessing, but "Murder" is a very weak password. It doesn't have any numeric or symbol characteristics to go along with the letters. That's an easier password to hack. For example, a password like "MuRdeR187!" would be more difficult to hack. Those are my guesses anyways.
Right! The password was so obvious.
@@D-Fens_1632
I'm sure PD/forensics has digital crackers
@@D-Fens_1632the average 4chan user could “hack” 99% of your accounts with access to your phone/computer. it’s not difficult
He can never be given parole... He's a monster
he can be given parole its the justice system
He now has the right to parole, which is correct. I don't want to see any 17 year old locked up for life, irrespective of how horrifying their crimes are. Hopefully he'll educate himself and learn productive skills. He has time to mature and fully understand the nature of his crimes and their effects on others. He has time to completely change himself which mostly happens naturally as we age. I wish him well for the future as it's a long road after committing such evil acts.
@@Gurovski 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Gurovski i feel kinda the same bit i see all.sides. i struggle with peados cos i truly feel that cant be fixed. But if i can offer grace to him that seems a bit hypocritical of me. Ah its so hard..such a sick crime but i believe in deliverance n demonic attachment so i believe he could be healed.
with good behavior, can be out of prison in 2 days
How sick do you have to be to sexually assault an elderly women 98yrs old! Like yo that’s beyond gross 🤦🏾♂️
Demonic Possession is real
This guy is a, coward, he is scared of facing justice, yet he still had the nerve to go out and do this to a defenceless woman.
Much respect to the interrogation professional. She saved many more innocents from certain death.
The interrogation was completely useless and pointless. They had all the evidence anyways.
@@anthonycameronnajera8471perhaps, but closing the case with a confession, seals the deal
Nah this wasn't much of an interrogation . This was more like therapy for this killer kid.Nothing in this interrogation stated much of an investigation , they already had the answers .
That isn't how it works. They were trying to get as much out of him as they could so that he wouldn't be able to plea insanity. They gained a lot from this interview. @anthonycameronnajera8471
They had him dead to rights but it is amazing how they're able to pretend to care about him while going through the necessary formalities of having him explain his mindset and the details of the actual crimes (he may confess to other crimes as well). These things go on for hours, eventually I'd have to at least excuse myself and go to the bathroom and scream a stream of obscenities about what I'd like to do.
He said he ruined his life... didn't say he ruined the victim's life. He clearly only has remorse for himself and getting caught. The fact the law changed and he will be eligible for parole in a few short years is incredibly disturbing.
I mean, he's a psychopath. Of course he only cares about himself. I'm not sure why everyone in the comments is going 'he has no remorse! oh no why doesn't he have empathy' on this video when it's obvious the guy has psychopathic tendencies and they don't go hand in hand with remorse. If he cared about the victim he wouldn't have done it in the first place.
You can thank the democrats for that.... research it.
The law designed like that coz they know the bad guy will go out and repeat the crimes, then they got caught and pay more fine, the cycles continue or else the lawyers and judge won't have big houses or expensive cars
@@tomhanxs No it's because laws are created by men to protect MEN, not women and children. It's that simple.
@@CapricornSunAndMoonwell that’s a retarded take
Knowing there are individuals in this world who are capable of this...... is disturbing on a level that is hard to describe. That poor woman. Excited to see her 100th birthday. And for her life to end like that. 😢😢😢😢
I am grateful to people like those who post videos like these so that i can hear the details and tactics to protect my loved ones from.
This actually is one of the more disturbing interrogations I've seen
imagine being on the verge of tears hearing about this horrifying story and then Junes Journey pops up
Smh. 🤦♀️
Real murder! Brought to you by...a game about murder!
@@caseycatLMAOO
@@caseycat he really should’ve read the audience on this one 😂 NordVPN would’ve even been better
THIS
The irony of the mom saying she has 'stranger danger issues' when the call is coming from inside the house
I agree. The mom knows her kid is fucked in the head and her body language told me she knew more than she was letting on.
His moms hot
@@Tygawoodz6that’s all you got out this video? Like come on bro. Why are men like this. That’s ALLLL you Take away from this video
I feel bad for the mom.
@@paytonedlund4526 Its an obvsvation. Its only this man, its a singreal thing it take away.
i love how you’ve paid tribute to the victims life, and showing the viewers about her life. Many youtubers don’t do that and just focus on the criminal. Really made me smile, thank you for being considerate that the victim is important too.
How do you reconcile your son doing this as a mother?! This is so disgusting.
You NEVER stop being there for your child regardless of what they’ve done it’s called being a loving parent. If my son killed someone it won’t make me love him any less. I’d be disappointed I wouldn’t try to excuse what he did but I wouldn’t treat him any different or stop loving him. That’s stupid
@@fall-inpeace2523you’ve already failed if your son kills a innocent person. How you love a murderer is beyond me. Maybe you’ll be next thanks to your loving nature which may be mistaken as weakness
@@RomvnlyPlayswow, that’s a scary attitude you have.
@@laurawrld2097 You never think it will happen to you. Until it does.
@fall-inpeace2523 he raped and had sex with her CORPSE. It was not an I accidentally murdered her when I robbed her. It IS a chose to kill and have violent sex and HE WANTED TO HAVE MORE VIOLENT SEX WITH HER CORPSE....NECROPHILIA!! How does a mother deal with THAT!!
My grandma died about theee years ago. She lived to 104. She was clearheaded up until about 100, when she started getting dementia. She moved in with us because of the memory issues that started, let me tell you, she was so angry she couldn't live on her own anymore but we were delighted to have her. All the times I found her "snoozing" on the couch was just so sweet. I've watched far too many interrogation videos and true crime stuff, I honestly thought I was becoming numb it it all because it takes a lot to shock me. But I started crying at the idea of this incredible woman dozing off and waking up to this piece of shit monster then everything that followed is horrifying. The fear and the lack of strength she had against him
Is just beyond heartbreaking. There are no words to describe. I also feel horrible for his mom, she really seems like a good mom. He was born this way. All
I hope and pray for now is that that dear woman is in peace, that her memory lives on in her family for everything but this horrific thing, and that this kid gets karma every single day for the rest of his life.
I was 18 minutes in when I read your comment. I don't think I'll watch the rest. Old people have a special place in my heart.
Babies aren’t evil, dude. Humans grow into who they are. There are multiple factors that could potentially create someone like this, from head injuries to SA to bed wetting, etc. it’s still a mystery, but believing a baby is born evil is just….a horrible thing to believe. Unless you’re religious, then it’s just normal I guess.
No one is 'born evil'. There's always demonstrable events/trauma/physiology that contribute to this type of callous depravity.
It's no excuse for people like this kid acting on their impulses, but to suggest a baby is born evil is just wrong.
who cares
@@hollies5841actually, it is generally accepted among the psychological community that psychopaths are born the way they are, but sociopaths are made from life experiences and trauma.
He's living proof that monsters are real
Like a scooby-doo episode.
And they usually don’t look like monsters I tell that all the time. To my mom. So gullible I worry
@jackie5522 I say the same thing. People have this image of how evil people look. But as you said monsters didn't look like monsters
He is only a child...... have some empathy
@KaooshFanForever he is autism
Very sad... this kid has issues.
However, how the hell are none of the parents instantly like "we want a lawyer." SMH
Right.??!
why so he can maybe get out of it and be at your house,big girl?
He should never be paroled . What he did to that dear old lady is unfathomable God bless her soul 😢
He will be a victim in prison because he is young and attractive and double so because he killed and Ra**d an elderly women. SAs don’t do well in prison.
Imagine trying to come to terms with your son being a sadistic psychopath for a normal mother who had no idea before he is accused of such a heinous crime. That poor woman.
Oh pla-leeze. You think he hasn't shown violence, or sexual deviation that she knows about in the past? Get real. She's culpable, if only morally. Evil woman.
I feel so sad for his mother! 😢xx
@@beckymesterhazi4624 same! I just want to tell her that it's not her fault. :(
I feel sad for his dad.
@@maxxdroidI mean yeah but he wasn’t there- why would u feel bad for the dad and not the mom having to be told by the literal police with her murderous son sitting next to her.
The fact the mum didn’t click when the detective talked about Margaret. She just nonchalantly kept playing with her hair. The lady detective was amazing.
I think you’re partially right. I can see little discretions in her body language that suggest otherwise around 13:30; when her legs switch sides, making her foot face away from her son which shows she unconsciously felt uncomfortable and was more interested in what the detectives were saying. Maybe this was because she had a feeling her son wasn’t telling the truth. Other than that though, I don’t think she fully knew what he had actually done. The detective was really good!!
Mom was probably experiencing tunnel vision blanking her shock thought
The woman detective did a fabulous job.
As a mom, you never want to think that your own child could do something like that... this kid has had some issues. Why wasn't he put on medication or in counseling. I can't imagine being a mother and finding out that it was your son who did these horrible things to a 98 year old may she rest in peace....
Dark people. So many kids have hyper se-ual thoughts, art & music that are dark, it is a part of growing up, but when it is horrible, that is time for serious parents concerns.
Was looking for something to wind down and relax with after work as I do a lot of crime interrogations. But I got the worst call Monday night,that any dad should receive that our daughter had been graped and the man had been arrested. This one hit me right in the feels.
my god almighty....i cant tell you how sorry i am... I know thist sounds really trite, but I think it applis..whenever somone dies i say the same things...Its going to b ok...her lif wwie will go on and it will be filled with periods of happiness and struggle... I shar in that struggle....Ill keep u in my prayers
The fact that the mom was so scared after it happened that she was leaving lights on but it was her son the whole time…. Tragic
Did you notice the cold chill she got and slight Glance at her son and rubbed her arms for comfort she had chills she was terrified of her son didn't even protest to leaving the room knowing he might confess
@@brooklynnevans7478
Of course she didn’t protest whether son calmly followed her advice to come clear and do so alone.
Parents know that their kids sometimes need space.
It's encouraging to watch competent professionals do an effective interrogation. She flushed out every lie without ridiculous "rambo" tactics. They stopped a stone cold murderer.
The woman investigator was brilliant, but the guy was a hindrance
@@dshe8637 Just how I felt! It seemed as if he were competing with the woman to be 'primary' investigator. I wish he hadn't intruded himself.
This "interrogation" was worse than a celebrity interview by Howard Stern.
The male cop wasn't great. He asked leading questions. He was talking to a psychopath about the "relief of taking a weight off," and the "healing " like he's just some messed up juvenile delinquent.
They didn't stop him, he murdered that poor woman ..they/she did not stop him. The interrogation got the information and that is not to be over looked.
Uhhh, im 35 now. I was in rehab when I was 16 and like 37 times since then with a minor misdemeanor that had nothing to do with anything.
I hated my life, but I never killed anybody or ever even thought about it!!
So, trust me. Whether you're "done with it" or not and don't want to live at home anymore, you don't have to worry about living somewhere else now!! But, guaranteed you're wishing you were able to live back at home, now and realized just how blessed you were and that it was actually the best place in the world to live!!!
Awww 😢gosh she was gorgeous 1:31
I hope her remaining family can at least take a little tiny bit of solace that she got to live and experience so much in her 98 years. May she rest in heaven
That poor woman made it to 98 years only to be murdered. I'm really having a hard time dealing with the callousness and depravity is simply wandering around in society plotting random murders.
That is sad! Do you mean "IN" simply wandering around?
And sexually assaulted wtf
@twobrokeguyz1214 omg, I'm quite sure it was just human error. The people who liked the comment understood, AND I'm quite sure you did too.
Exactly. These videos on UA-cam make me suspicious of everything
But you can die every day by anything. It doesn't matter how in the end so man up for christ sake.
I can’t see this crime being well respected in prison
You people don't understand Prisons, he will be safe for the rest of his life, trust me.
@@FrankieTalki .... I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about.
He's a spoiled well-to-do kid who raped and killed an elderly woman.
Not only is he an easy mark for extortion anyway, the inmates now have a "moral" justification to extort and abuse him on top of the plain fact he's a weak child with money.😊
@@FrankieTalki guards can mess with you
@@FrankieTalki and you do?
@@FrankieTalki so child molestors and elderly molestors are protected and revered in jail? What backasswards State you live in?
Thank you for this episode. It would be interesting, and helpful to hear Gavon’s mothers express her feelings about this.
I can never be a good detective man. I can be easily emotionally manipulated and end up getting shot or stabbed i stg. I am not going to lie but his crocodile tears had me emotional for a sec and then i had to remind myself about what he has done and then it's a mental battle of whether to believe anything he says or not.
It's when you know that this line of work would NOT be good for you. Kudos to these detectives !
RIP Margaret 🌹
Detective: you hear of that murder?
Mom: oh yah that was so horrible!
Det.: would you know anything about that Gavon? 👀 👀 👀
Bro frrrr
@@saraibarragan6773str8 sus frfr no cap on gawd
I wonder what his mom's reaction was after finding out what he did
@@thegreenfairyqueen7884right. I thought they were going to show that.
@@thegreenfairyqueen7884thank you so much bcs I’m really only watching to see her reaction. If it’s not here, I’m out. Saved me from wasting my time.
It irritates me so much seeing murderers crying and sobbing and breaking down because their life is over. If only they cared about other peoples lives like they do their own smh.
Playing the victim.
It’s usually either an act, or they’re literally that narcissistic. They don’t see other ppls point of view only their own. To them their life is the most important and it’s all they think about and all they can see. It’s fucking irritating because those ppl never learn to feel empathy or shame or sorrow for what they did cuz to them no one else matters. And that will never change.
This man not only killed this 98 year old but had sex with her corpse!!! Would you call Ted Buddy a Narcissist?? What is up with everyone being called a Narcissist???
This kid is a psychopath (possibly sociopath but his mom makes me think otherwise) and a necrophiliac. He was on his way to becoming a serial killer and probably one of the worst we have ever had.
Why would
It irritate you unless theres something you are repressing within yourself? These comments are pathetic
That 17 yo murderer could have been you. I wonder if your tears would irritate others.
"I'm not gay....prison will change that
My heart goes out to the boys mother. You know she felt like she had been hit in the gut with shock when the truth came out. My condolences to the lady's family.
A dangerous man indeed. To be able to do that to a 98 year old lady is truly sickening. He needs to be locked up forever. Cretin. 😢
Check his brain for abnormalities, some wires have to be crossed. Do you think he has done it before just not got caught.???
Not just dangerous… clearly deranged … mentally ill…‘psychopathic
@@junebarnett7350 it’s not his first rodeo this creep been creepin
I just think he’s a deeply deeply mentally ill person with no hope of recovery. He should be locked up forever. That poor sweet old lady. I hope she has some measure of peace
@junebarnett7350 he’s very aware & competent, he had felonies & misdemeanors already before this, planned to rob & kill unsuspecting gay men and play the “im a minor” card to ruin their reputations after the fact. he committed robbery & car jackings, planned a robbery murder, & rape, choosing one of the most vulnerable in our society. 1st degree murder, sexual assault of her corpse, a 17yo capable of these crimes is irredeemable esp being in his right mind through it all, his right mind is different than the average individual as he’s clearly emotionally unresponsive, cunning, manipulative, cold & callous. checking his brain won’t make a difference, he’s diagnosed w anti social personality disorder, it’s something diagnosed in a completely different way than any brain abnormalities would be.
The "mom vibe" is powerful. Some people feel their entire soul exposed when subject to it. Brilliant interrogation.
Lol 😆
Yass
This was such a horrific story to watch and uncover.. good thing I have June’s Journey to keep me distracted from all the terrors of the world. Thanks Villains!!!!
Great video; thank you for uploading and sharing it with us. I also appreciate your voiceover - I'm particularly glad this young man is off the streets.
It’s a proven fact you can’t fix psychopaths
Link?
Agree. They can only be managed.
@@TYLERbOONE1080look it up
Lol there's no one specific link, it's called research. Do some and confirm it.@@TYLERbOONE1080
You can only help them if they have symptoms really young and get very intensive therapy
The dude wore gloves but took them off and left them at the crime scene???? Thank god most killers are idiots
This is a nightmare. I cant believe how absolutely powerless you can be as a parent of a psychopath. I work with my young kiddo everyday to understand empathy and feelings. Parents can only do so much.
*Every day. Two words.
@@AdelineCowgirl I was hoping my editor would drop by.
Idk how the investigator could sit in the room with him, let alone say he “seems like a really nice kid” without projectile vomiting.
He’s an oxygen thief who needs to be put in solitary for the rest of his miserable life.
Poor Margaret. To have lived so long only to have some troglodyte rob her of her life… atrocious doesn’t even begin to describe how horrific this crime is.
They say he's a nice kid to keep him talking.