Fair question as I do not know nor did I have it on hand to test the rate of decay. I figure if you reach out to Hanhart direclty they can give you some specs. Best, D
@@HobbyOfHours the specs say it’s C1, which doesn’t impress, but I don’t know how thickly it’s applied. The watch is awesome but the lume question is holding me back.
@@C.C._TJ_Jason Intrigued...can you give me an example of one of your other watches that "lasts" through the night? Other than Luminox/tubes, I dont' know of one but yet I have never personally tested one through the night. Thank you!
@@HobbyOfHours you bet. I do have a Marathon Navigator and you’re right you can’t beat that in the middle of the night. I also have an IWC tribute to Mk 11 that has strong “old radium” markers and hands that glow through the night. And the surprise hit is my San Martin quartz homage to the RAF Mk 11: it has very strong C3 lume and it is legible all night. I have yet to have a C1 watch last half as long as C3. BGW9 seems to do OK as long as the application is heavy. I know a lot of people focus on lume for diving watches, but for flying I found it really important as well, especially when operating on and off of carriers.
@@C.C._TJ_Jason I almost bought the MK18 tribute to MK11 but wanted a bracelet and wasn't sure I'd like the aged lume. Here's my buyers guide, lmk what you think and how you like the lume on your tribute. Thanks! D ua-cam.com/video/NYzgvOcSr38/v-deo.html
One more great watch from Hanhart and TGV. Serious bit of Kit for a field watch. The blue dial is my cup of tea! And that tech used for the steel - next level amazing stuff for the price. Killer strap monster for a field watch for sure. That Red Lion on stealth strap is amazing! Great content as usual.
A shame it has this link to the adenoidal smugness that is TUG. There's almost no "design" to this watch, nothing original about the design elements or their combination. The steel is interesting but they could have made anything out of that. Instead, they made this...
@@SampleTracks2224 the circular dial field watch segment is nearly impossible to redesign...so to suggest anything in the field watch space can be "original" is a farce. But to take inspiration and put into production something slightly different without stepping out of the genre is something good for the market - options. As for the smugness comment...ignorance personified.
I like the black dial. And really like the limited edition Hanhart that you have. Also, the Preventor9 S and Austrian Air Force are super duper. All the best, TT.
Most welcome! That's a good question for sure. Reach out to HH to ask and then let me know if you would. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you. Best, D
This one was more of a "coming attractions" episode since I haven't got it on wrist yet. I can say, generally, Hanhart bracelets are gorgeous. The clasp is double button with microadjustments. TGV's video is of course the key video to view since he codesigned it with Hanhart. You'll get a better sense of it there I reckon. Here is the link. Cheers, D ua-cam.com/video/v3iAPFqWpkQ/v-deo.html
This got released at the right time, I've been looking for a daily watch to wear to accompany my 417 ES Moby Dick I have. Will have to wait and see when it will become available locally. Thanks for the video, cheers !
So glad to hear you enjoyed the video and you're enjoying Hanhart watches. Are you going to get the blue one? That'd be a nice compliment to your 417. Cheers, D
@@HobbyOfHours I'll have to see which one becomes available at my local AD. I do prefer the black one but the blue one also looks quite nice. Decisions, decisions !
Great video my friend and thanks for the shout out. The Stealth black looks great on the Hanhart x TGV collab watch. Also great to see anothrt winner of @ndcstraps. Best regards. Jacko
Hi D, congratulations on getting this out so promptly! I think it's great: the design is beautifully balanced, the finish tough and versatile and the movement is regulated (Seiko take note). The icing on the cake is the decent water resistance. Depending on the spacing of the spring bars, this could be a candidate for a selection of Natos... Like you, I like the 417, but I would buy the 1954 Panda version. In England we can buy from Hanhart online, but we have an excellent distributor (Chronomaster) here in the UK. Have a good weekend folks... 🍻🍻🍻
@@HobbyOfHours It's impossible to say really: there are tax differences between Germany and the UK, but the quoted prices are very similar so far. I don't know what you'd need to pay to bring it into the country though.
That system doesn't look clean or great though. Nodus is licensing the NodeX to anyone interested, I'm sure they can work something out if Hanhart is interested. Sinn is also coming up with their own version, which also looks to have a cleaner mechanism than what is on the Preventor 9.
@@paulbugoni2846 I saw one on Click Spring Reviews and the only issues Barry mentioned is that it seems a bit thick at 9 mm and that the extension does not look seamless. I think these are very minor issues, considering the functionality you get. I'd take this over the cheap-looking old clasp any day. It's a pain getting the right fit when you get out and it's hot... nobody brings a spring bar tool with them everywhere they go. Plus, this kinda reminds me of what Omega used on the RMLE (which I have) and it's actually a great clasp.
@@porschephile2k3 Yes, you´re right. May be they are working on an improved clasp for the new Preventor and it´s not yet completed. That NodeX looks great - nice. May be the guys from Hanhart are listening. 🙂
It's great to see you back in the studio D! It's finally nice to see a 3 hand sub-40mm Flieger release from Hanhart! This will kill that 38mm Hamilton Murph itch! Now, if Hanhart placed it's unique historical Preventor9 dial on this 39mm case, it will have no challengers. So much to ask too soon 😂. Any news on a 39mm Moby Dick from Felix?
An amazing idea! I will have to ask Felix about a white dial version of this beauty. To be fair, as you've assessed, launching THIS release with the white dial as a third option would have been legendary! Cheers, D
This is quite a sleeper watch, but it's made solely for a crowd that wants this kind of uninspired design. It's just a much better Murph at the end of the day, and you can get valid watches of that kind from many many brands.
Thank you for the feedback. I find it a classic design and with the Hanhart cathedral hands they're putting their spin on it. I too caught Murph vibes when I first saw it. Cheers, D
@HobbyOfHours TGV claims to have had a part in this design as well. With such a simple design it's hard to believe they missed the drilled lugs on a watch he calls a "strap monster" He may be anti-drilled lugs as they seem to be missing on most of the watches he says he has influenced.
@@rodg2335 Yes indeed, he co-designed this one. Something I did not know when I released my video. I often wonder why drilled lugs aren't a part of most pilot/field designs, speaking generally. I could guess that the hardness of this treated steel could be the matter or a general challenge in executing drilled lugs. Or it could have been a purely aesthetic choice. It's cleaner and leans more towards dress functionality whereas the drilled lugs would lend it more towards rugged, purpose. My two cents! Best, D
How long does the lume last, can you read it at 5AM? Thanks!
Fair question as I do not know nor did I have it on hand to test the rate of decay. I figure if you reach out to Hanhart direclty they can give you some specs. Best, D
@@HobbyOfHours the specs say it’s C1, which doesn’t impress, but I don’t know how thickly it’s applied. The watch is awesome but the lume question is holding me back.
@@C.C._TJ_Jason Intrigued...can you give me an example of one of your other watches that "lasts" through the night? Other than Luminox/tubes, I dont' know of one but yet I have never personally tested one through the night. Thank you!
@@HobbyOfHours you bet. I do have a Marathon Navigator and you’re right you can’t beat that in the middle of the night. I also have an IWC tribute to Mk 11 that has strong “old radium” markers and hands that glow through the night. And the surprise hit is my San Martin quartz homage to the RAF Mk 11: it has very strong C3 lume and it is legible all night. I have yet to have a C1 watch last half as long as C3. BGW9 seems to do OK as long as the application is heavy. I know a lot of people focus on lume for diving watches, but for flying I found it really important as well, especially when operating on and off of carriers.
@@C.C._TJ_Jason I almost bought the MK18 tribute to MK11 but wanted a bracelet and wasn't sure I'd like the aged lume. Here's my buyers guide, lmk what you think and how you like the lume on your tribute. Thanks! D ua-cam.com/video/NYzgvOcSr38/v-deo.html
One more great watch from Hanhart and TGV. Serious bit of Kit for a field watch. The blue dial is my cup of tea! And that tech used for the steel - next level amazing stuff for the price. Killer strap monster for a field watch for sure. That Red Lion on stealth strap is amazing! Great content as usual.
Well spoken friend and thank you. Had no idea TGV designed it until I watched his video last night on my couch. LOL. Great stuff. Cheers, D
A shame it has this link to the adenoidal smugness that is TUG. There's almost no "design" to this watch, nothing original about the design elements or their combination. The steel is interesting but they could have made anything out of that. Instead, they made this...
@@SampleTracks2224 the circular dial field watch segment is nearly impossible to redesign...so to suggest anything in the field watch space can be "original" is a farce. But to take inspiration and put into production something slightly different without stepping out of the genre is something good for the market - options. As for the smugness comment...ignorance personified.
@@SampleTracks2224 Disagree friend. Everyone is out there doing their thing. My content isn't for everyone either. Each to his fate I say. Cheers, D
I like the black dial. And really like the limited edition Hanhart that you have. Also, the Preventor9 S and Austrian Air Force are super duper. All the best, TT.
Thanks brother, great to hear from you. Yep, Hanhart is watchbox darling around these parts.
Thank you for your review! I wander, what is the grade of the movement? Is Hanhart still goes with Elabore?
Most welcome! That's a good question for sure. Reach out to HH to ask and then let me know if you would. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you. Best, D
any info on the tapering of the bracelet or the type of buckle? I also like the black on black strap
This one was more of a "coming attractions" episode since I haven't got it on wrist yet. I can say, generally, Hanhart bracelets are gorgeous. The clasp is double button with microadjustments. TGV's video is of course the key video to view since he codesigned it with Hanhart. You'll get a better sense of it there I reckon. Here is the link. Cheers, D ua-cam.com/video/v3iAPFqWpkQ/v-deo.html
This got released at the right time, I've been looking for a daily watch to wear to accompany my 417 ES Moby Dick I have. Will have to wait and see when it will become available locally. Thanks for the video, cheers !
So glad to hear you enjoyed the video and you're enjoying Hanhart watches. Are you going to get the blue one? That'd be a nice compliment to your 417. Cheers, D
@@HobbyOfHours I'll have to see which one becomes available at my local AD. I do prefer the black one but the blue one also looks quite nice. Decisions, decisions !
@@lonerboy013 Well put. I'm guessing the blue is going to look spectacular in person.
Now if Hanhart can only incorporate a tool-less micro adjustment clasp (maybe work with Nodus or Sinn?), this watch would be totally awesome!
That would be a great upgrade! Cheers, D
I like the watch I got from AMZWATCH. That rubber strap combo looks really cool! Been wearing it since last year and love every minute of it.
Is that the fake watch site? Not my cuppa. Let me know, D
Great video my friend and thanks for the shout out. The Stealth black looks great on the Hanhart x TGV collab watch. Also great to see anothrt winner of @ndcstraps. Best regards. Jacko
So grateful for your partnership Jacko!! Does look amazing on the Hanhart. My Omega Seamaster is jealous and wants it back. Cheers, D
Hi D, congratulations on getting this out so promptly! I think it's great: the design is beautifully balanced, the finish tough and versatile and the movement is regulated (Seiko take note). The icing on the cake is the decent water resistance.
Depending on the spacing of the spring bars, this could be a candidate for a selection of Natos...
Like you, I like the 417, but I would buy the 1954 Panda version.
In England we can buy from Hanhart online, but we have an excellent distributor (Chronomaster) here in the UK.
Have a good weekend folks... 🍻🍻🍻
Thanks! 20mm this one so you are all set. Have you seen a price differential between going direct vs. Chronomaster? Just curious. Cheers, D
@@HobbyOfHours It's impossible to say really: there are tax differences between Germany and the UK, but the quoted prices are very similar so far. I don't know what you'd need to pay to bring it into the country though.
@@robertlock6041 Thank you!
@@HobbyOfHours 👍🍻
Great watch from a very cool brand. But why not the clasp from the Preventor 9 with the on the fly adjustment system?
Just checked my 417 bracelet and it does not have a quick adjustment clasp. Would be a great addition tho! Cheers, D
That system doesn't look clean or great though. Nodus is licensing the NodeX to anyone interested, I'm sure they can work something out if Hanhart is interested.
Sinn is also coming up with their own version, which also looks to have a cleaner mechanism than what is on the Preventor 9.
@@porschephile2k3 Sinn clasp has some issues saw a review on YT.
@@paulbugoni2846 I saw one on Click Spring Reviews and the only issues Barry mentioned is that it seems a bit thick at 9 mm and that the extension does not look seamless. I think these are very minor issues, considering the functionality you get. I'd take this over the cheap-looking old clasp any day. It's a pain getting the right fit when you get out and it's hot... nobody brings a spring bar tool with them everywhere they go.
Plus, this kinda reminds me of what Omega used on the RMLE (which I have) and it's actually a great clasp.
@@porschephile2k3 Yes, you´re right. May be they are working on an improved clasp for the new Preventor and it´s not yet completed. That NodeX looks great - nice. May be the guys from Hanhart are listening. 🙂
Beautiful piece, clean, no date, and I am a sucker for a nice bund. If I had a gripe it would be it's a $800 watch selling for $1100.
Hello! An interesting observation. The hardened steel is a leg up on the comps, I reckon that may be part of it. Cheers, D
Still cheaper than a Sinn 556 though, and the 556 does not have any surface hardening.
@@porschephile2k3 Also well put. Love me some Sinn watches, but Hanhart is Hanheart for me.
Or maybe it’s a $1100 watch you want to be $800.
@@uncles2000 Yeah, but that specially treated metal ratches it up a notch! Happy Friday, D
hanhart are on a roll some amazing new releases. these 2 are fantastic field watches with amazing specifications for the money
That's well put. Can't hardly wait to get my hands on their diver!! Best, D
@HobbyOfHours trust me its a stunner 👍👍👍
@@markbowman7240 Word!
It's great to see you back in the studio D!
It's finally nice to see a 3 hand sub-40mm Flieger release from Hanhart!
This will kill that 38mm Hamilton Murph itch!
Now, if Hanhart placed it's unique historical Preventor9 dial on this 39mm case, it will have no challengers. So much to ask too soon 😂.
Any news on a 39mm Moby Dick from Felix?
An amazing idea! I will have to ask Felix about a white dial version of this beauty. To be fair, as you've assessed, launching THIS release with the white dial as a third option would have been legendary! Cheers, D
Good to know the case is hardened up to 1200 HV.
Never thought of it before tbh. Would love to know how they test that!
Looks good 👍🏻, , but 38hr power reserve is a bit disappointing
Hello! Agreed, in this day and age Sellita needs to bolster their barrels. Best, D
It would've been better if they used the SW300 with 56 hrs of power reserve.
@@porschephile2k3 56 would have been a much better figure for a modern piece.
@@HobbyOfHours for sure! I believe Christopher Ward might be switching to the SW300 for watches they typically use SW200s for.
@@porschephile2k3 Hadn't heard that but it's a good move!
Like the ‘tegmented’ steel case, and dial, don’t like the cathedral hands, overall looks pretty similar to a Montblanc 1858. But yeah, thumbs up
That's a fair comparison, hadn't seen the MB. Thank you for sharing with me! Cheers, D
This watch needs SW300....
That does seem to be the word on the street. Need to research that movement. Must be height of the movement or cost of it I figure. Cheers, D
Cost maybe...
@@Sumerdini Probably I figure.
Yep, SW300 would set it apart for sure. Especially if they could keep the price at, say, 1100 or 1200 euros tops.
@@kresimirpleic Roger that!
This is quite a sleeper watch, but it's made solely for a crowd that wants this kind of uninspired design. It's just a much better Murph at the end of the day, and you can get valid watches of that kind from many many brands.
Thank you for the feedback. I find it a classic design and with the Hanhart cathedral hands they're putting their spin on it. I too caught Murph vibes when I first saw it. Cheers, D
how ironic mcqueen acting in "the war lover", wearing his private 417 piloting a us-bomber over germany.
Yes indeed. With the 417 coming in 1956//57 and wasn't officially issued to armed forces even.
Lume is C1. There's always something
Lights up like a torch as I've seen.
Identical to my Hamilton Khaki
Certainly close, but most field watches with arabics can say the same. Vertex even. Cheers, D
Outstanding video.I have to go with the AMZWATCH, especially with that green dial as my favorite
I've not heard of AMZ until this post. Replica watches? Not my thang.
Too much like the Hamilton Murph. They could have done something to make it unique-ish. Too bad there are no drilled lugs either.
Drilled lugs would have been a nice touch! Cheers, D
@HobbyOfHours TGV claims to have had a part in this design as well. With such a simple design it's hard to believe they missed the drilled lugs on a watch he calls a "strap monster"
He may be anti-drilled lugs as they seem to be missing on most of the watches he says he has influenced.
@@rodg2335 Yes indeed, he co-designed this one. Something I did not know when I released my video. I often wonder why drilled lugs aren't a part of most pilot/field designs, speaking generally. I could guess that the hardness of this treated steel could be the matter or a general challenge in executing drilled lugs. Or it could have been a purely aesthetic choice. It's cleaner and leans more towards dress functionality whereas the drilled lugs would lend it more towards rugged, purpose. My two cents! Best, D
@@HobbyOfHours I am impressed when I see drilled lugs on a Grand Seiko. There are many.
@@rodg2335 Word, that's well put.
some many bots in the comments. UA-cam should really do something about that.
It's my first experience with such a thing. Kind of crazy.
hope there will be an old radium version
That'd be rad!
I like it, but no date.
Yeah, I can understand that. Most field/pilot clean designs are absent a date complication. Maybe at 6 o'clock? Cheers, D
that was incredible. what a beautiful watch and what great work you did on it!MAMACOO
No Mamacoo here, just Hanhart goodness from Felix and TGV.
Trotz Kanalsperre 😡😡😡👎
Not sure what you are saying friend. Cheers, D
Needs a small seconds subdial. Without it, the watch is pretty boring.
Small seconds subdial would have been interesting. Different than this aesthetic but I get a small seconds. Cheers, D
@@jlg395 no more boring than a Rolex explorer
It is an excellent military watch, not boring IMO...
@@Sumerdini Good daily driver I reckon.
Wrong. Beaut of a watch