Is The Mitsubishi Eclipse Reliable?
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- Is the Mitsubishi Eclipse reliable? The DSM platform has a reputation for being unreliable. I go over my experience with my opinion on the EagleTalon and Mitsubishi Eclipse.
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They are reliable, but not cheap anymore, my advice: (1) save up, a good running one won't be cheap (2) look around for a long time for the right one (3) don't be afraid to buy in another state (4) look for low owner count, older owners are better (5) look for low miles (6) look for low mod count (7) look for auto trans, can always be manual swapped (8) make sure it has a carfax and receipts for maintinence (9) inspect for rust (10) inspect for leaks and test drive it. 😚👍
This is the best formula. Sadly most don’t follow it
I did all of this. Got a 05 Eclipse Spyder GTS (manual transmission) with 96k miles on it, no damage, no accidents, cost me $7k and got it delivered from FL to NC and I love it.
@@hirajitheshinobi you won bro, similar story with my 99 Eclipse GSX. 👍
I got a good running gs-t for 5.5k so it definitely won’t be cheap. Was maintained very well. Has 200k miles tho🙃
@@ryancampbell98 i got a 98 gs-t for 4k 150k miles and in pretty good condition. just had to do the standard 60k service and also replace the oilpump but other than that its been good.
Honestly I feel like a lot of these 90’s tuner cars like Eclipse’s, Integra’s, Civic’s, Prelude’s, CRX’s, S-Chassis’s, and Miata’s are hard to find in good condition for a reasonable price nowadays just because so many of them were modified, stolen, crashed, raced, or passed around by different owners it sucks to see this happen especially with the second gen eclipse because this has always been my dream tuner car
Sad reality
i bought an 98 eclipse gst recently for 4k and within the first month I had to replace the alternator, valve gasket cover, sparkplugs, oil pump, water pump, and belts. But I'm happy now.
Yeah that's why will be getting a Soarer also :)
Love all the cars you mentioned also.
And its really sad.
Sooo many kids got them as their first or second car & by the looks alone and think they have a race car & they just beat the crap out of them, and that's a good sized amount of them running around for sale once they put over 1k or 2k into them then they sell it right away because they know it's only a matter of time before it's completely broken down... Litterally any cool or beautiful looking car kids think are race cars and within just 10kmiles they can break everything in it until it's either scrap or a big project to make it able to function like it should or at least drivable, it's sad how many are gone or trashed because of first time drivers alone, their brains function like ooo I saw this on a F&F movie so it's a race car and I'm gonna first rice it out, clap it out, and go "drifting" & "their version of racing"
& shortly after you have 2-3 hundred bucks worth of scrap, or try to sell it out piece by piece, but of course they will always say all parts are in the best conditions as possible & then you have tons of cars with absolute trash inside your car, it's like a "Metal Infection", 1 car sold piece by piece, can easily ruin &/or infect 15-20 other car's piece by piece, and sometimes it doesn't matter the age, there's tons of Crack head's with stolen cars in their 50's who just need money so they will get tweaked out and spend a night looking up info on the car & it's parts & tell you exactly what you want to hear & with the new fresh info in their brains they can even seem like they know what they are talking about & know what to say & what not to say, & between those 2 types of people alone that must be at least 33% of the Eclipses out their, so the best way to get the best quality cars & parts is to do as much information as you can before you get something that looks cool or sounds like a good deal & a legit car, but make sure you get as much info as possible & test out everything you can before buying anything!!
they're the modern day classics. my dream car today is a 300zx and i fully regret not buying one when they were 5k. i also regret not keeping the half dozen dsm's i've owned
It's absolutely true. The owners are the issue. Initially, I thought my eclipse was in decent shape but the more I went through it the more issues popped up. Nothing insane, but just loads of minor issues that were neglected or poorly installed. However, I'm finally nearing the end of replacing the last few pieces to make it rock solid again.
Glad to hear. They’re fun once they’re running
I got a 99GS-T from the original owner that he forgot in his barn for years, and I drove it home that day. It ran for over a year, and i had little problem with it, until the inside of the water pump chipped and my engine was toast. that was 2021. Now in 2023, i got a good deal on a rolled Eagle Talon TSI, drive trains fine, but the cabin is destroyed. During this very slow build, getting different things i needed while talking with people in the community, who have drag racing builds or stock builds, a big thing with these cars is not doing regular maintenance. Like you said, these cars are old, and they dont work the same. We're fighting to work with 20 year old parts and tech. A lot of stuff needs to be outright replaced, or redone. The cars rep is tied to whose willing to put in the time (and money) to do things properly. This is a car you cant cut corners with the work you put in.
Very well said
I own a 97 eclipse spyder gs. It’s honestly the best car I own, & it’s been somewhat my daily with a 215.1k miles in it. I put a lot of money to rebuild it after my dad left it in the garage for 7+ years. It has a bit of problems here & there but some what easy for me to figure out & replace stuff. I’m glad I convince my dad to let me have it since he was planning to just give it away, now I enjoy it soo much. This eclipse is my first eclipse & I am slowly learning more & more about it with lots of research, so much dedication, & time I’m putting into it! This eclipse has been super meaningful to me ever since my dad had it, I’m glad we kept it.
Very similar story to mine! Except my dad sold his Gsx
The eclipse will always have a place in my heart, need for speed underground!
I discovered this channel thanks to that white 420a and that showed me what things I had to do to make things right with my 420a RS, I started fixing an oil leak and ended up rebuilding the engine and transmission, and I've never been happier, its bulletproof reliable and ready to go turbo, but I'm taking things step by step and enjoying the car every day... Now I have another mint 420a GS that I have to fix a few things in the drivetrain, but is working nicely for daily.
420a Dsms don’t get the love they deserve. They’re awesome in my opinion
I use to see eclipses a lot back in the day. Now I never see them. Hopefully we see Lazy tell his story about his car.
I am about to get into my first Eclipse (1GA GS - FWD N/A with the 4G63), travelling almost 2000 KM to get it, and driving it back over the next two days. I have been saving up for it for a while, and am finally getting one of my dream cars as my second ever car, at 24. If I can do it on 750 euro a month, you can do it too. Save up, prioritize it, and keep focus.
Its true. Very true with the Eclipse that I got, the previous owners didn't take very good care of it so all of the work I have to do is mainly just restoration. I don't mind as this gives me practice with restoration type work, but it would have been nice to not have to deal with restoring the car, so much as just enjoying and working on it.
Big part of them now is mainly restoration. The guys that had them from the start had the privilege to mod them without any repercussions due to them being fairly new
Restoring a car has its type of people, I have enjoyed restoring my 420a because every time I look at it now I know that I removed every bolt on that car and I know what to expect from it...
Since I was a kid I dreamed about having an eclipse, where I live is so hard to find an unmolested one, all of them are clapped out. last year there was a GSX, looked clean, had a 16g turbo upgrade, it only cost 4.5k sadly it was 2 hours ahead of my city and didn't have a chance to go for it, got sold in less than a week :(
Sorry to hear man.. that was a great deal for it
Man 2nd gen eclipses are really sad tbh, before crashing my 3g I wanted one so bad (was looking for a rs or gs) but they were all in really bad condition so I found a nice 3g and bought it. After crashing the 3g (I feel so bad for it) I once again looked to buy a 2g but absolutely every single one had very serious mechanical problem, rusted or both. This is the pinnacle gen of the eclipse yet people don't take care of them so I ended up buying a 2005 Civic SI, I absolutely love it and don't regret it but it's sad that most people don't take care of them.
Sad to hear man. Sounds like you really wanted a 2G instead. Especially being on a DSM channel haha. Hope you end up with one eventually
Sad to hear man. Sounds like you really wanted a 2G instead. Especially being on a DSM channel haha. Hope you end up with one eventually
@Miguel Dsm yesiirr haha it's definitely not off the table lol
@@djpollo2474 my dad bought a 2g gs with a 420a in it and it has all the original paperwork for it and everything including all of the oil change receipts back in 1999. he got it for $800 with "tranny problems" it ended up just being a throughout bearing and the clutch. then he did tons of body work and paint to it and he gifted it to me and mannnnn those things are fun to drive and head turners! hopefully you find a 2g soon before the prices go higher!
@MystSilent bro sorry I didn't reply, I didn't get the notification.
But bro you won't believe this... a friend of mine went to a mechanic shop and saw an eclipse abandoned right next to the shop and he asked what model was the car and they told him it was a gsx... so tomorrow I'm going to check it out to see if it's really a gsx and if it's not too heavily rusted. If it isn't idc how much money I'll eventually put into it, I'm going to buy it lol
I want to see and pov race / drive in your eclipse and your car meets if u can bro 😎🏁🏎️ but I liked this type of video as well
Dude, you named your dog Brembo?! That's original! (Sorry dog owner lol) once again great video. I'm definitely in the fence on purchasing one because I also want the EVO 9 MR or EVO 8. Agonizing for sure... 😅
I had a 1997 RS. Loved it. Unfortunately, it was totaled. I paid $1,000.00 and it never let me down.
Been driving DSM since 2003, I've literally owned about 15-20 DSM cars since then and most my buddies had them too. They are only as reliable as the owner. I had a 1G GST back in 2003 bone stock with over 350k miles on it that ran great but I've also had a 2G develop crank walk first 30k miles. They are old cars so yes parts wear out, ppl rag on them, rig them, hack them up and that tends to mess them up. Lack of maintenance, lack of money but Crystler as well had it's flaws on this platform. Even the 420A was notorious for head gasket issues because Crystler didn't bore out the back head stud on cyl 4 which bottomed out the stud causing failing head gasket issues. The 4G63 has a strong motor but a weak problematic transmission, I've literally gone through a transmission more than once on most DSMs I've owned "they are junk" drive em right, keep up with maintenance, know what you're doing when working on them, prepare to spent money. They aren't for everyone, fun when running right tho.. I call DSM "don't start motors" for a reason lol
That’s why they say, they weed out the weak lol. It’s only for a select group of people
I was 16 when I got my first DSM granted I grew up around dirt track so that definitely gave me a little head start. My first one was a silver 95 gst that from what I gathered form the previous owner was slapped together from two other eclipse. This was back in 2011 so I only paid 2k for it and I loved it but I started to find a lot of issues with it like never ending electrical problems to the car not being stright in the front. I was always chasing wiring problems and I Eventually. parked it do to which which I still kick myself for till this day. Since then iv been very active with everything Mitsubishi just haven't got around to getting another 2g but I will cuz it is my all time favorite car! Moral of the story don't buy something that's already been past around and teated poorly do your research and be picky don't settle for the first one you see and remember it's not the cars fault they're old 😂 and probably been very absorbed
i have a 97 spyder 4g64 i daily drive it i have had no problems with it but it only has 64k miles on it
That’s really low miles for a dsm
@@MiguelDsm yep it was parked up for 12 years
I am from Latvia. Proud owner of 420a😊. I am trying to keep the engine stock and I havent have any problems. Suspension and looks I have changed a bit. In my country you dont see these cars often. I would say if you keep the car stock then you wont have any problems. Parts are expensive because they ship them from US to Europe. Great car❤
I’m so lucky I was able to buy my RS eclipse for cheap, $1,500 in 2021. Ofc it’s automatic but as Miguel said starting off with a 420a was and is a great choice because I’m learning the gimmicks and kinks of the car to get ready for when I own my gsx eclipse in the future!
Great start man! Your older self will thank you later
I'm saving 20k, hope is enough for you to transform my 97 mitsubishi eclipse GST just like you did to yours. Change every part, rebuild the engine, paint, etc. I've had the car since 2009.
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8:05 Speaking facts bro! I've missed my DSMs ever since selling them, always find myself thinking of getting another one
Dsm bug is real
This video was posted when my friend and I were driving back his new 1990 Eagle Talon tsi. 6 hour road trip, took it like a champ.
Glad to hear! Congrats to him for the 1G
Totally haha I sold my black DSM and ended up buying another one in less than a year, and it's just the feeling like how you say, to have a DSM it's just a great thing even though it gives sometimes a hard time I think it's worth it
Only few can relate haha
A 2G DSM is one of the cars i hopefully will get but first i rather have a non turbo with a stickshift to gather some experience before jumping to a GST or even a GSX
Always a solid plan. That’s what I did 👌🏼
My uncles 95 gs has been daily driven since he bought it in 06 Engine hasn’t been opened timing belt and basic maintenance only still his daily and runs strong to this day
420a ftw
4g63 for the win for sure!! I think they are great motors! Only downfall is the manual transmission easy to break. I plan to build my expo with 4g63 awd but with the auto transmission!
That’s an issue for the fast boys haha
@@MiguelDsm haha that is true!
I know the 4G63t is more unreliable compared to the 420a , But the 4g63 is a stronger engine and at Low hp so is the transmission . The 4g63 can be more reliable But like you say most of them are abused and mistreated . My advice is if you do get a gst gsx , make sure you spend that money on maintenance first before you start slapping performance parts on . I know by experience and not taking the proper routes to having a fun reliable car … Another down fall of the 4G63 is that it was a Japanese platform Built in The USA . Need I say more lol
Honestly i feel like they are reliable but when they have been passed around they either become still reliable or not very reliable since you don’t know the maintenance that the previous owners did, i bought my first DSM when I was 16 and joined the forums and watched your videos to help me out even more to understand the 4g63 platform. My DSM that I still have had a spun bearing before i replaced the bearing, I would say its a very good car to own if you have the budget to add parts that you want to it.
It’s a never ending project car 👌
Not gonna lie I wish I had this type of car 😢 I mean we have EK and Eg but I love the look of it my friend actually has one and it’s 🔥
Ver videos tuyos se siente épico
Muchas gracias bro!
i was racing 1st gen dsm's back in 2004-2008. i also wish i had kept some. i was picking up various 2.0 4g63 variants for $2-$4k
anyway they're incredible cars with one giant flaw.. the 4 bolt.
i had 2 engine blocks where the bolt housing cracked leaving just 3 bolts to mount the bell housing to the block. i even tried welding it but cast iron to aluminum was beyond my skill level. i knew a dude that used a pair of vice grips lmao
such a shame because other than that, the 4g63 is an insanely good engine. i slapped a t3t4 on stock compression with zero issues. i haven't seen any other engine able to handle that without changing rings.
john shepard was a personal idle of mine. i assume most dsm fans know who that is, but if you don't, check him out. i bought a shepard transmission from his shop. he's known for 7 seconds dsm's
I've got a 2002 Mitsubishi eclipse and I've owned it since 2007 .The motor went out in 2022 but i got a motor in April because i love it ❤ if it gets another 160000 miles it will be here after I'm gone
Now you gotta build a mirage you’ll have the full line up and you can turn it into a evo 2 door 🤤. Boom easily 100k more views. But honestly bro where do you keep finding all these clean 2gs 🤤 every single one I find either needs a whole new engine and rust maintenance on every fender or it’s a 95 model with low miles for 17-25k Idk why but it’s always a 95 model for crazy money 😂.
I know I’m late but I found a old gs that hasn’t been cared for too well so I want to take it off his hands, it has minimal rust, problems with the breaks, it’s a stock manual and the windows have cracks from rocks and such he wants 2900$ for it, do you guys think it’s a good choice😅
You forgot the 4g64, I’ve been dairying mine for 4 years and no problems, I’ve talked to other owners that own a 4g64 powered eclipse and they say the 4g64 is a great motor and my buddy has been dailying his for 7 years and no problems
What does ' dairying ' mean, I'm from Australia.😅
@@freeagent8225 typo… I meant daily driving it
Thought it was US slang. Lol.
i really wish i had bought one years ago. they have always had a spot in my heart. but man they are expensive for garbage these days...same as the 3000gt....
1) Almost all of them have been beated on, blown up, wrecked, built poorly and just in general clapped, 2) these cars are old... and Mitsubishi as far as automobiles is barely holding on to the North American market and has discontinued most of the parts for them so it can be difficult. 3) They (if built properly) can be relatively reliable but once you start going too far above 400-450whp the reliability drops off pretty quickly. I've owned a few GSX's at various different power levels. I love them but I wouldn't recommend them as a only car. They are great 2nd vehicles.
The 400-450 is the sweet spot imo. I still have fun with mine at that power level
I bought a stock 1gb Plymouth Laser RS Turbo AWD that i'm restoring atm. It sat with a hole in windsheild so the interior is gone. I got parts car with the car so at least a have complete interior. I'm keeping it stock. It starts but it smokes and the turbo makes weird siren sound. It ran just for few minutes to test if it moves before I sent it to paint booth. When I get the car back i will left it running for an hour or two to see if the smoke clears. What do I need to do to the engine to make it reliable. I'm from eu so sorry for bad english.
You got yourself a gem though. I’ve only seen around 3-4 lasers in person over the last ten years
Man I had my 420a automatic since 2013 and it's been registered everyday since no major issues I had my gst for almost 3 years and still haven't been able to fin8sh it due to transmission problems
420a has it’s pros. More street time
Hell nah it’s not and I have a 420a I maintained it best I could and every time I fixed one thing , something else broke , so now it’s a nice lawn ornament and I switched to a Honda which is more reliable :) still love my dsms I’ll get my eclipse fixed soon lol
Part of the game haha
I’ve had a 1g 1990 panda 450hp, 2g 98 GST stock, 98 GSX currently 600hp 6262. The best advice is to go and check the cars out if it has rust walk away. If the owner says the following, WALK AWAY:
car has been sitting
it needs to be “tuned”
Rust in strut towers but runs good
The paint is mitchmatched and not all the same.
Now if you have money to blow buy the car and send it to rob fig in PA. He’s the absolute best at rebuilding these back into beauty’s.
Needs a tune never fails 😂 automatic red flag lol
@@MiguelDsm 🤣🤣🤣 just facts
MiguelTRD
Lol 😂
Sooo many kids got them as their first or second car & by the looks alone and think they have a race car & they just beat the crap out of them, and that's a good sized amount of them running around for sale once they put over 1k or 2k into them then they sell it right away because they know it's only a matter of time before it's completely broken down... Litterally any cool or beautiful looking car kids think are race cars and within just 10kmiles they can break everything in it until it's either scrap or a big project to make it able to function like it should or at least drivable, it's sad how many are gone or trashed because of first time drivers alone, their brains function like ooo I saw this on a F&F movie so it's a race car and I'm gonna first rice it out, clap it out, and go "drifting" & "their version of racing"
& shortly after you have 2-3 hundred bucks worth of scrap, or try to sell it out piece by piece, but of course they will always say all parts are in the best conditions as possible & then you have tons of cars with absolute trash inside your car, it's like a "Metal Infection", 1 car sold piece by piece, can easily ruin &/or infect 15-20 other car's piece by piece, and sometimes it doesn't matter the age, there's tons of Crack head's with stolen cars in their 50's who just need money so they will get tweaked out and spend a night looking up info on the car & it's parts & tell you exactly what you want to hear & with the new fresh info in their brains they can even seem like they know what they are talking about & know what to say & what not to say, & between those 2 types of people alone that must be at least 33% of the Eclipses out their, so the best way to get the best quality cars & parts is to do as much information as you can before you get something that looks cool or sounds like a good deal &/or a legit car, but make sure you get as much info as possible & test out everything you can before buying anything!!!
you names your dog after a car company. 😂
9:53 nah I’m 17 bouta turn 18 in august work 2 jobs and built a truck and still building my DSM love working on cars I do it everyday so ig I’m the younger adult group ig
DSMs are like driving on egg shells lmao I love mine but still have that thought in the back of my head anytime I drive it.
Mood 😂
It's a 50/50 shot honestly, may work may not.
I think the odds aren’t that good anymore. I say 80/20 at this rate
@@MiguelDsmall I know is I had 3 growing up 93 95 and a 99 not one of them worked correctly 😂. All that said I do want another one or a talon.
Bad luck maybe? Lol
@@MiguelDsm could be
Hola saludos desde la isla de curazao 🇨🇼 cuando vuelves hacer videos en Español
Saludos bro! Alo mejor y empiezo a subir videos como este al canal de español
31+ years on a Talon TSi AWD manual and the only major issues since the dealer replaced the trans nearly 30 years ago have been a bad ECU, harmonic balancer that came apart, and the trans popping out of 1st gear, all fixed and no issues since. Otherwise it's been standard maintenance issues like rust, worn bushings and BJs, worn brake pads and clutch discs, tire replacement, the sort of thing that every car has if you own and drive it long enough. Of course I've never raced or modded it or done anything too crazy with it, so I'm not a typical DSM owner. Like any well-built car if you treat it right then it'll treat you right back.
I had a 96 eclipse and it was a fun drive back in the 90s. Never modified and kept in the garage. I then gave it back to parents for their commute and it got drenched in the sun at their offices while I was in school for the 4 years. It was never the same after that. I miss the old car as it was fun and easy to park and always reliable and good on gas.
I’m about to turn 17.. still in highschool, (junior) and I’m saving up for a 2G Mitsubishi Eclipse, either GSX or GS-T (either one manual). I prefer the GSX just cause i want that awd but I have about 8k-10k rn and I’m looking around for a good condition lower mileage one.. I’ve been watching you for a long time and Ngl your videos made me want me for my highschool/college years and even after 😂💯 I also have a good background of mechanic stuff so I feel like it’s just a good choice overall
Just my opinion but the first couple of Fast and the furious movies really made these cars Desirable and that’s one reason it’s so hard to find a all original not screwed with Eclipse . I know I wanted a Green Eclipse after seeing the first Fast and the furious
I’m looking to buy a 1998 RS with 199k miles and needs a new o2 sensor but runs has AC and Heater should I buy?? It cost 1600 Any advice ?
I am only 13 but I want a dsm car soo bad
thats not a eclipse it a evo mod
Bro tus videos han mejorado un montón 🤯🤯🤩
Muchas gracias bro! Ahí la llevamos!
Sold my GSX in 2020 and just picked another DSM up August 2023. Youre right, something about these cars makes you want to get another one.
Any dsm can be reliable if you use quality parts. Stay away from eBay at all cost(learned this the hard way). Nowadays they’re not cheap and are very hard to find. I loved mine and used to daily it for a year and it was definitely hell but was a very fun experience. Kept it for 6 years and it went from an eBay special to an 1100hp self build street car
Previous owner will tell you everything. But these cars are 25 years old. If you want to be a mechanic this car is for you
Wish I can get one 😢
Your time will come. They’re not going anywhere
90's-2023'If His DSM still running..The"Owner" is Reliable.
i bought a pristine eclipse only thing wrong is seized motor it’s an rs can anyone tell me is it worth saying the motor or throw it and get a new one it hasn’t run in 2 years
Bro looks like ash .. should of named your dog pikachu
Shut up before I catch you with a poke ball
There are 2 types of engines for the eclipse one with a turbo not top of the line back then and one without
🔥dsms💯
Your one stop shop
Just outta curiosity, with those digital dashboards, can you keep track of mileage on them?
Yes you can
@@MiguelDsm cool thanks, loving the vids 🙌🏽
Where did you get the eclipse poster to the left of your person?
I have loved the eclipse ever since they came out
Another nice video bro :D
Thank you my dude 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@@MiguelDsm Ofc :)
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Saludos 🖖🏼
good videos , very informative.
No. 😂 But it’s more due to stupid owners. That’s every car, from Hondas to Audis.
😮😁
Someone's needing a hair cut! 🤭
good!.
Thank you!
Tight as a Honda.
Just a little better 😉
8k-25k for a DSM? Holy hell people are stupid.
just like YOU