Trump, China, and the Geopolitics of a Crisis

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  • Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
  • Recorded on April 1, 2020
    Stephen A. Kotkin is a professor of history at Princeton and a fellow at the Hoover Institution. Kotkin is one of the nation’s most compelling observers of foreign affairs, past and present, and is now working on the third and final volume of his definitive biography of Josef Stalin. From that perspective, Peter Robinson and Kotkin discuss Trump’s response to the COVID-19 crisis, Kotkin’s thoughts on the Chinese leadership class and the advantages they may seek to exploit, and which country-China or the United States-will come to represent the more successful or compelling model to other nations.
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  • @kkampy4052
    @kkampy4052 4 роки тому +149

    Peter Robinson is one of the best interviewers out there. Ask a question, wait for the answer to be complete, ask another question.

  • @creationevolution315
    @creationevolution315 4 роки тому +458

    Competance and compassion, solidarity with trust. Sounds so wonderful.
    Now, who fragmented us? Who brought us identity politics? Who are the elites not held accountable?
    I am a black woman who was so relentlessly targeted with Anti Trump Propaganda, I got suspicious...and now, I am a proud American, not a bitter minority. I'm ready for a fresh start, to work hard, and get our country back!

  • @ishanz8991
    @ishanz8991 4 роки тому +148

    "In times like these I want Americans without hyphens." A lovely sentiment by Mr. Kotkin in a superb interview.

  • @kleenk8
    @kleenk8 4 роки тому +484

    If you close your eyes, you will believe that Joe Pesci has an enormous take on world affairs.

    • @matthewbaringer1486
      @matthewbaringer1486 4 роки тому +5

      Are you the one who makes this comment ON EVERY UA-cam video of Kotkin?

    • @mikelezcurra810
      @mikelezcurra810 4 роки тому +2

      Joe Pesci should have done the audiobook narration of Mr Kotkin's Stalin books (which I highly recommend. Waiting for #3)

    • @mmtl9203
      @mmtl9203 4 роки тому +2

      LOL

    • @s37d
      @s37d 4 роки тому +1

      shit i was just going to post "he sounds like joe pesci", lol

    • @michaelcassella2423
      @michaelcassella2423 4 роки тому +1

      lol - I was reading the comments first, then figured the guy must sound like Joe. He kinda does.

  • @codex3048
    @codex3048 4 роки тому +61

    Kotkin has the most impressive bookshelves of any of the recent Covid-19 home interviews in the media. To the surprise of no one.

  • @TalkernateHistory
    @TalkernateHistory 4 роки тому +42

    I'm a simple man. I see Kotkin, I watch.

  • @pelicanbird901
    @pelicanbird901 4 роки тому +164

    Absolutely love your interviews Peter, and Professor Kotkin is always a special treat. Thank you.

  • @Thomas_Geist
    @Thomas_Geist 4 роки тому +54

    I’ll provide my two answers to the question: Confucius and Confucius. Historically the Chinese put a much higher value on social conformity and equilibrium than any Western notion of freedom.

  • @R0yL33
    @R0yL33 4 роки тому +106

    A pessimist by nature, yet he is hopeful of unifying the country. Unfortunately the enemy is within, and doing their best to keep us divided. It is easier to destroy than create.

  • @sprezzatura8755
    @sprezzatura8755 4 роки тому +46

    Prof Kotkin is a breath of fresh air. A genuinely bright individual with no axe to grind. More please. Is it me or does he sound like Joe Pesci?

  • @mateusmahumane8990
    @mateusmahumane8990 4 роки тому +92

    Why there's hyphenation for certain US racial groups: African-Americans, Asian-Americans, but there's no European-Americans. Why?

  • @philipford6183
    @philipford6183 4 роки тому +76

    Thank you so much for this brilliant interview! Stephen Kotkin is such a fantastic speaker (I've seen your previous interviews with him, and some of his other lectures on YT), and Peter Robinson is a very gracious host. I only regret this discussion was so very short (at least it seemed that way!). Please have Mr. Kotkin back soon for a much longer discussion - so many quotable moments from him! I really appreciate his informed perspectives on China in these difficult times!

    • @EricAssaf
      @EricAssaf 4 роки тому

      Philip Ford summarize it for me please

  • @risknerd1772
    @risknerd1772 4 роки тому +167

    My wife, from another room, thought I was watching a Joe Pesci movie on Netflix.

  • @jjforcebreaker
    @jjforcebreaker 4 роки тому +88

    Pandemic or not, Mr. Robinson always on duty.
    Not enough professor Kotkin on the channel, that's for sure.

  •  4 роки тому +26

    Unaccountability of elites = Bill and Hilary. Stephen Kotkin is billiant. He is very analytical and seems able to distill complex issues into two or three salient bullet points. I think this was the best and most relevant interview Peter Robinson has ever done.

  • @lizhengcheng6915
    @lizhengcheng6915 4 роки тому +2

    As a Chinese I am fully amazed by professor Stephen A. Kotkin. If he could be the officer who in charge of Sino-USA relations, things would be much better. Liberty and cooperation.

  • @chijen2010
    @chijen2010 4 роки тому +71

    How about some self-examination about why we have a so-called capitalist economy that requires a massive government funded bailout every 12 years?

  • @outofthenorm7292
    @outofthenorm7292 4 роки тому +134

    Joe Pesci is a lot smarter than I thought.

    • @zachpauley7975
      @zachpauley7975 4 роки тому

      Funny. Good one.

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 4 роки тому

      Dude! Thanks for this joke! The best I've seen!!! You just boosted my immune system sooo much!!!

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 4 роки тому

      I'm still laughing BTW!

    • @empoweredbyknowleged6141
      @empoweredbyknowleged6141 4 роки тому

      I disagree with you. The reason of studying the callaps of former Soviet Union is to identify how America separated the former Soviet. If you really want to learn about international politics, listen to Martin Jacques who is a political commentator from UK.

    • @maxheadrom3088
      @maxheadrom3088 4 роки тому

      I had to come by again ... because I'm locked at home taking care of my elderly parents ... can't get the prescription to my SSRIs ... and then ... I remember your joke and it's all right!!!! hehehehe!!! Thanks!!!

  • @brianjoyce9742
    @brianjoyce9742 4 роки тому +56

    Luv this guy Peter. Great questions and his Joe Pesci speak make this a must watch

    • @ronnestman4696
      @ronnestman4696 4 роки тому

      Brian Joyce spot on Joe Pesci observation. Lololol

    • @esmeevans1423
      @esmeevans1423 4 роки тому

      Thank you Brian Joyce. I was trying to figure out who Stephen Kotkin sounded like - definitely like Joe Pesci - you were right on the money!

    • @darrens.4322
      @darrens.4322 4 роки тому

      Joe Pesci or Mark Levin speak.

  • @nicholashughes8214
    @nicholashughes8214 3 роки тому +3

    I think the next president of the US needs to talk to Professor Kotkin about their China policy His analysis and recommendations are right on

  • @Mrodriguez231
    @Mrodriguez231 4 роки тому +33

    Thank you HooverInstitution, for another great discussion.

  • @shubhamjaiswal9037
    @shubhamjaiswal9037 4 роки тому +52

    Stephen Kotkin is an intellectual.
    Rare Intellect engulfs him .
    Thanks Peter Robinson.

  • @marcoaslan
    @marcoaslan 4 роки тому +6

    I could listen to Kotkin for hours

  • @marksaulnier2222
    @marksaulnier2222 4 роки тому +26

    Another top shelf production from the Hoover institution. Thank you for this!

  • @ronnestman4696
    @ronnestman4696 4 роки тому +37

    This guys an intellectual bad ass. Love the content of this channel!

  • @Bargeonin
    @Bargeonin 4 роки тому +117

    Mr Kotkin's voice and phrasing sounds exactly like Joe Pesci.

    • @tiffsaver
      @tiffsaver 4 роки тому

      Is he a clown? Does he make you LAUGH?? YES!!!

    • @jaynehinds3339
      @jaynehinds3339 4 роки тому

      Bargeonin 👍👍👍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😆❤️

    • @jaylinn416
      @jaylinn416 4 роки тому

      You need a street guy like Stephen A. Kotkin to understand the Chinese Communist Party.

    • @Erichhh
      @Erichhh 4 роки тому

      LOL, I was just coming here to write that!

    • @wilfredowen5172
      @wilfredowen5172 4 роки тому

      You're a funny guy.

  • @danapeck5382
    @danapeck5382 4 роки тому +21

    Always the most interesting educator to learn from. Eagerly awaiting Stalin book three.

  • @yogiandbooboo7232
    @yogiandbooboo7232 4 роки тому +22

    Fascinating interview. Thank you for the enlightenment, gentlemen. 🐻

  • @petesake1299
    @petesake1299 4 роки тому +24

    Excellent summation of the state of affairs and the western worlds predicament.

  • @Drumsgoon
    @Drumsgoon 4 роки тому +13

    Another great video. I really enjoy this way of interviewing, and Kotkin is great to listen to!

  • @christopherfenwick6705
    @christopherfenwick6705 4 роки тому +30

    Wonderful interview, very insightful.

  • @DavidMorley123
    @DavidMorley123 4 роки тому +35

    Always a pleasure to hear Kotkin's thinking.

  • @johnberkshirerespector6449
    @johnberkshirerespector6449 4 роки тому +9

    I can't wait for the third part of Stalins biography to come out

  • @rodrigolumi
    @rodrigolumi 4 роки тому +7

    Awesome interview! Thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @primitivaroots
    @primitivaroots 4 роки тому +8

    Great talk. I always learn here. Thanks.

  • @jaydouglas8170
    @jaydouglas8170 4 роки тому +65

    This guy is pretty much describing the Democratic Party in the USA TODAY-!
    Party this, party that, party agendas at all costs.....

  • @jostsangoku
    @jostsangoku 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks to the hoover institution and to Peter Robinson, you sir are an amazing interviewer

  • @stevenbrown9275
    @stevenbrown9275 4 роки тому +6

    Interesting video. Thank you for posting it.

  • @QuietJagung
    @QuietJagung 4 роки тому +5

    This expert look at China from outside and probably sounds very smart but from inside China point of view will sound uninformed. He did not mention meritocracy system, Chinese characteristics and large poor population that still exist in rural China.

  • @marydamians4586
    @marydamians4586 4 роки тому +11

    Brilliant man

  • @TheHUPofHWC
    @TheHUPofHWC 4 роки тому +20

    kotkin needs a few more books on his shelf. def not enough there.

  • @oculii1
    @oculii1 4 роки тому +8

    Thank you Hoover Institution. Please keep up the wonderful work, more necessary than ever!

  • @sajateacher
    @sajateacher 4 роки тому +15

    I wonder if he knows if “Khrushchev Remembers” is his authentic autobiography or not. Interesting book anyway.

  • @matthewstokes1608
    @matthewstokes1608 4 роки тому +2

    Absolutely fascinating... Thank you.

  • @chriss729
    @chriss729 4 роки тому +24

    Include Kotkins name in the title you’ll get more views

  • @littlelulu5675
    @littlelulu5675 4 роки тому +10

    Sadly it is never wise to talk with the devil. Even if you perceive him as smart

  • @rustynutz4493
    @rustynutz4493 4 роки тому +1

    I was playing cards and listening thinking this sounds like Joe Pesci then I look and it could be his brother ! LOL

  • @ursulafuengerlings9136
    @ursulafuengerlings9136 4 роки тому +2

    Outstanding! Thank you.

  • @zachstott8354
    @zachstott8354 4 роки тому +8

    Great discussion, thanks for providing it during the lockdown! Please keep it up

  • @esimm595
    @esimm595 4 роки тому +2

    The comments on Kotkin's accent reflect our expectations that intellectuals and professors will have another accent. I know people who have changed their accents to the NPR accent to improve their job prospects.

  • @MusicalMemeology
    @MusicalMemeology 4 роки тому +2

    Intellectual Joe Pesci is my favourite guest on uncommon knowledge. He has an amazingly interesting and understandable way of explaining things.

  • @phraarenpanyasampanno4743
    @phraarenpanyasampanno4743 4 роки тому

    Brilliant! Thank you so much for this.

  • @shenlaoshi7106
    @shenlaoshi7106 4 роки тому +1

    This is an insightful interview! Thank you.

  • @diskette
    @diskette 4 роки тому +2

    First!! Excellent and insightful as always

  • @VytisMaleckasBrunius76
    @VytisMaleckasBrunius76 4 роки тому

    Great interview! Thank you!

  • @kenbray2948
    @kenbray2948 4 роки тому

    Fantastic interview. Thank you

  • @8vI
    @8vI 4 роки тому +7

    Stephen needs to talk to the Chinese regime!

  • @zebbocaster
    @zebbocaster 4 роки тому +14

    I really like him because he sounds like a very scholarly Joe Pesci.

  • @snuffysmith4058
    @snuffysmith4058 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent Work 💯

  • @vvolfflovv
    @vvolfflovv 4 роки тому +8

    Fascinating. I'm new here and can already tell this will be one of my favorite channels.
    I just don't know if I can agree with the notion that the US economy was great before the virus as it's success is leaning on record corporate and national debt and an unprecedented wealth gap. The majority of people were literally living paycheck to paycheck and other countries are even worse to do.

  • @swmps
    @swmps 4 роки тому +8

    This Guy seems right to me. Wow he knows the wisdom behind the BS.

    • @swmps
      @swmps 4 роки тому +1

      He is spot on

  • @kavehnadem2907
    @kavehnadem2907 4 роки тому +4

    It is always instructive listening to Dr. Kotkin

  • @koceilaayouni7278
    @koceilaayouni7278 4 роки тому +4

    16:00 Pre-Reqs for growth during difficult economic and social unrest

  • @TerrellMethvin
    @TerrellMethvin 4 роки тому

    What again another excellent interview thank you so much

  • @jackychan8822
    @jackychan8822 4 роки тому +1

    It was like hearing radio from 60s... old fashion cliche again and again

  • @myroseaccount
    @myroseaccount 3 роки тому +1

    When it comes to political parties is Kotkin talking about China or the USA?

  • @Robgti180
    @Robgti180 4 роки тому

    Really enjoyed that.

  • @7701707
    @7701707 4 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @stevenshima1522
    @stevenshima1522 4 роки тому

    Dr Pesci gives a compelling story about the issue.

  • @BillMcGirr
    @BillMcGirr 4 роки тому +2

    Good stuff.👍💪

  • @truthbunny7089
    @truthbunny7089 4 роки тому +1

    Bravo🙌

  • @ProtectrLifenLiberty
    @ProtectrLifenLiberty 4 роки тому +1

    Peter Robinson another of God's miracles your interviews in my view are only equalled by Dan Patrick Great Questions and allows the interviewee to answer . Thank You

  • @MementoMorituri
    @MementoMorituri 4 роки тому +7

    So Communism isn't " Workers of the world unite." It's "Workers of the world be damned, so long as the Party keeps control."

  • @shalvakochladze4169
    @shalvakochladze4169 4 роки тому

    Very interesting.

  • @lllPlatinumlll
    @lllPlatinumlll 4 роки тому +1

    Its amazing how no one remembers the winter war....only Barbarossa

  • @wmphatic
    @wmphatic 3 роки тому

    Hoover Institution, I love you guys but a little advice, just do an audio call, and have each individual record video on the webcam, or some better camera, sync audio and video later on in post production. Would be much better quality.

  • @TheBriRu
    @TheBriRu 4 роки тому +2

    Just like listening to this guy.

  • @bell1036
    @bell1036 4 роки тому

    its so intelligent. such a great talk.

  • @RaphaelCalvo
    @RaphaelCalvo 4 роки тому +20

    Interesting the two-dimensional analysis of the Leninistic structure x the Dogmatic principles of the Communist Party.
    Even though the communist "values" fade away the political structure is kept to impose order by force. A parallel of such analysis with physics can be established by stating that communism goes against the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics since it tries to reduce the System's entropy by force, spending energy and resources on this process.
    One additional stretch now from the physics realm into the political science realm is that someone has to pay for this energy and resources (inefficiency) spent by the system to keep the political structure and its projected power. Once China's stockpile of internal energy is depleted it will have to seek elsewhere for new sources in order to keep the system stable.
    The Belt and Road initiative might be their plan to keep their wheel turning... The illusion of this perpetual motion system depends on such initiative.

  • @miketannenbaum8909
    @miketannenbaum8909 4 роки тому

    Brilliant analysis.

  • @Th0ughtf0rce
    @Th0ughtf0rce 4 роки тому

    Came for Peter Robinson, stayed for intellectual Joe Pesci.

  • @kirkbowyer3249
    @kirkbowyer3249 4 роки тому +2

    “Government is instituted to protect private property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is just government which impartially secures too every man, whatever is his own.” James Madison (Property; National Gazette, March 29, 1792)

  • @KenArkane
    @KenArkane 4 роки тому +1

    FASCINATING!

  • @kirkbowyer3249
    @kirkbowyer3249 4 роки тому +8

    Ecclesiasticus 10:08
    A Kingdom is translated from one people to another, because of injustices and wrongs and injuries and divers deceits.

  • @kevinreddington4251
    @kevinreddington4251 4 роки тому +4

    Great interview with Joe Pesci.

  • @picandvideo
    @picandvideo 4 роки тому +1

    Old School!

  • @kaydoubleyou4316
    @kaydoubleyou4316 4 роки тому +1

    If Joe Pesci and Mark Levin had a love child...haha. Kidding aside, excellent perspective!

  • @drgooshgoosh2419
    @drgooshgoosh2419 4 роки тому +4

    Reminds me of a brilliant Joe Pesci

  • @PheneticsCo
    @PheneticsCo 4 роки тому +2

    If he was president, we Americans would be in a radically different reality

  • @azsheri8
    @azsheri8 4 роки тому

    Thank you honest intelligence!

  • @justsaying9483
    @justsaying9483 4 роки тому +2

    Bloody genius

  • @donstevens7847
    @donstevens7847 4 роки тому +5

    Great conversation guys! Hey question, how do the ever growing Arab and Hispanic populations play into all of this?

  • @aprincess3966
    @aprincess3966 4 роки тому +2

    Nations with democracy and human rights will survive...dictatorships with time will diminish even if it seems its economically expanded.

  • @bluecollarmark
    @bluecollarmark 4 роки тому

    Oops, we were wrong, thanks for the headache we have to deal with.

  • @drnandakumarakvelu1581
    @drnandakumarakvelu1581 4 роки тому

    Mr,Peter I,salute tonn you and Prof,StepheA superb interview with an,analytical,prophet,,Thank you and Prof,Stephe

  • @danieljakubik3428
    @danieljakubik3428 4 роки тому

    Stephen Kopkin sounds like actor Joe Pesci. Overall a good productive discussion. We are now at the point of being dependent on China for medical supplies, a unfortunate product of globalization.

  • @sirdon9433
    @sirdon9433 4 роки тому

    Best economy?

  • @RyeinGoddard
    @RyeinGoddard 4 роки тому

    Great conversation. This guy sounds like Joe Pesci. Love it.

  • @riccardopusceddu6232
    @riccardopusceddu6232 4 роки тому +4

    China has benefitted our economy but disproportionally so, mainly making rich people richer and poor people stay the same. Also it has made the US more dependant from China not just for all the junk they produce but now even for medical supplies. We gave China their success by buying their cheaper stuff and that made us weaker, not stronger.

  • @jaideepkrishna8533
    @jaideepkrishna8533 4 роки тому

    Brilliant