About two months ago I was in the exact same situation on a twin rudder boat. I was on the helm, my father was managing stern lines and my mother was on the mooring lines. We had a jugo blowing so the nose of the boat was constantly being blown to port side. My dad released the port stern line, and we were held in place with a starboard mooring and a starboard stern line. Father told me to give it a little bit more power so the wind doesn't carry us onto the leeward boat. To my mother he shouted the croatian word "puštaj", now the problem is that in our screwed up language, that word can mean both "release" or "ease" (the mooring), depending on the context. He thought the mooring was in the water, when in reality it was merely slightly eased. In the very last second he realised what has happened, but it was too late. I gave it a solid 22 hundred rpm in order to shoot out of the berth as fast as possible so to not get carried to leeward. My father was left holding the starboard stern line for a good few seconds. I realised what was going on and threw the gear lever into neutral, but the momentum of the 13 ton boat was too big and father lost grip of the stern rope. We shot out of the berth with the mooring line only having about two seconds to sink. Had we hookes the stern line with our keel, the boat would stall in the spot and we would get rotated onto the leeward boats. We are a fairly competent crew and it's rare that this sort of thing happens to us, but yeah this time we definitely had more luck than coordination. Also on a side note, I saw my friend's boat at 13:11 in the video just to the left of the camera shot. What a coincidence that Tessa just happened to be in Stari grad at the time!
Hey Nick! You are doing excellent job and you are one of the best on understanding the physics of the boat. If you visit Greece I would love to make some work together
Well done Iwonka and Luke, never easy first (few) times or being filmed! Nick, as always a great video production with a clear process which is the same whether you have full crew or solo.
That's the one I've been waiting for!! Seeing how it's done and seeing it's ok to lean against another boat really helps a lot!! Thanks for doing this!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
In that situation I prefer to turn the boat to the right, following the wind, and then exiting from the channel in reverse gear, stern to wind; much more control of the boat. What do you think? If you prefer going bow to the wind, I would expect to use the portside line as pivot, which is windward, keeping the boat in the middle of the other two ones. Please explain if something is wrong in my opinion. Thanks
I love watching you teach and how it gives genuine confidence, maybe not right away but invaluable guide to be out of ze comfort zone with any day of the week!
good rule: the higher the wind, the slower you go - step by step. Also agree with the trusters - they dont work in high wind, learn to do everything without them!
I have to say this is really good ! Will be nice to see a parking movie in 20+ windows with heavy traffic with boats “taxing” on entarance . I didit once, with no trustees( broken ) one got hurt, but it will be super to see profesional approach. It’s 6-7 years and still thinking about that day😅
Well I have a few docking videos in heavy winds! Not really with lots of traffic though. Its hard to get all these things to line up on the days that I have time and ability to film! Will keep working on it
Mainly you do no have the control of moving the stern with the rudder. So you just centre your rudders and use the 2 stern/control lines for you adjustment.
Very good instruction from all of this series of videos. I would just be a bit concerned about letting the lazy lines go from the bow with the engine in gear. Maybe the lines are set up differently in Croatia than in Greece but I have seen quite a few lazy lines (dock end) get chewed around a prop (not mine, fortunately... yet).
Yes this is always something to be aware of and cautious of. Some a long and suitable to do so. Others have been caught before and are short now! It should be in first checks to see what the situation is with these lines. A good plan here is to pull them up from the shore and out to the side then releasing them so they are clear of the prop/stern
Good method and executed nicely especially when the helm’s person is panicking and shouting contradictory directions to her husband because she is nervous/inexperienced lol good to show that unedited for learning. You also handle that well too. Just a request can you do one on flying drones in Croatia and what we need to register and do exactly. I’m looking at it and very confusing. I am thinking of bringing the 249g dji mini pro 4. TY
I need to say that the sequence is wrong. I have done such a monver very often with even very strong crosswind. The correct sequence of releasing the lines with crosswind is: first release leeward lazy line then the leeward stern line (both do not have any force because they are leeward), then the windward lazyline and in the end taking out the boat with engine power into the windward stern line and ease the windward stern line (powering into this line). You do not need the leeward stern line in this situation, especially with a single rudder boat.
Thanks for your input, though you might want to a) watch it again... and b) read what you wrote. Because you are contradicting yourself and also pretty much laying out the sequence in which we DID do it 🤦🏼♂
@@45DegreesSailing I see in the video that you release the 2 lazy lines first and keep both stern lines whereas the leeward sternline is not needed at all. Therefore you release it prior to the windward lazy line.
@@ZZgrisuZZ We do indeed release the leeward lazy line, then easy the windward line to make sure that our power and control line are holding position, then release the windward lazy line, hold on the control line(s). Keeping the leeward stern line on while holding station allows you more control as you ease out of the berth without dragging along the windward yacht. It also makes the manoeuvre completely transferable to a twin rudder yacht where the stern lines determine your position in the berth.
@@45DegreesSailing Am I right thinking that with twin rudder you'd be able to focus less on the helm while you're trying to pivot the boat using stern lines, until you have enough speed for steerage? Also, what would change if you'd need to "depart" into the wind (to starboard in your case)?
@@LukaBendzo Hey Luka great questions. Basically single or twin rudder you can centre the helm and not worry about it while you are on control lines. If I had to go to windward I would still plan to turn with the wind (when in a confined space) as you cannot beat the wind. So go with the wind as discussed in the video, then reverse in control into the wind until you have space to turn around.
@@45DegreesSailing great! I'm skippering a yacht next week starting in Biograd and given which pontoon I'm leaving from, in case jugo hits, that's what I might need to do. Just trying to visualize and do a bit of planning. Thanks for the tip!
Big fuss line it up leave Lots of unnecessary drama but got out okay and thats the thing you are after Any landing you walk away from is an okay landing
🤣 No drama. And when you leave in 20-30 knots on the beam 'line it up leave' will have you dragging along the leeward yacht and tangled in their mooring lines!
And there are many reasons why you might want to leave in 30kts. Even if that is only to go sailing in it! And I for one would rather do it without damaging my boat or someone else’s!!!
@@NatNay-cu3uv maybe they don’t. And as such I guess I’m not a normal boater, and people come to me to train them as such. We regularly leave in 20+ knots. And will continue to do so!
@@davidllewelyn your better being in here wishing you were out there. Than out there wishing you were in here Look why are you ladies getting broken hearted all I said was a bit fussy. Typical club joiners
You have the right balance between energy/drive and relaxation to create the perfect learning environment
Wow thanks Jeroen, I really appreciate that!
Super video Nick 👍
Thanks Majd!
Well done ... 👍
@@felixsailing cheers. Hope it was helpful!
About two months ago I was in the exact same situation on a twin rudder boat. I was on the helm, my father was managing stern lines and my mother was on the mooring lines. We had a jugo blowing so the nose of the boat was constantly being blown to port side. My dad released the port stern line, and we were held in place with a starboard mooring and a starboard stern line. Father told me to give it a little bit more power so the wind doesn't carry us onto the leeward boat. To my mother he shouted the croatian word "puštaj", now the problem is that in our screwed up language, that word can mean both "release" or "ease" (the mooring), depending on the context. He thought the mooring was in the water, when in reality it was merely slightly eased. In the very last second he realised what has happened, but it was too late. I gave it a solid 22 hundred rpm in order to shoot out of the berth as fast as possible so to not get carried to leeward. My father was left holding the starboard stern line for a good few seconds. I realised what was going on and threw the gear lever into neutral, but the momentum of the 13 ton boat was too big and father lost grip of the stern rope. We shot out of the berth with the mooring line only having about two seconds to sink. Had we hookes the stern line with our keel, the boat would stall in the spot and we would get rotated onto the leeward boats. We are a fairly competent crew and it's rare that this sort of thing happens to us, but yeah this time we definitely had more luck than coordination.
Also on a side note, I saw my friend's boat at 13:11 in the video just to the left of the camera shot. What a coincidence that Tessa just happened to be in Stari grad at the time!
Yes that word certainly has a lot to answer for in this case! 2200 is a lot for leaving the berth! Make sure to check got oncoming traffic!
Hey Nick! You are doing excellent job and you are one of the best on understanding the physics of the boat. If you visit Greece I would love to make some work together
Excellent video! Great idea of having mooring lines slack but still attached to see if the boat is balanced on just the engine.
Well done Iwonka and Luke, never easy first (few) times or being filmed! Nick, as always a great video production with a clear process which is the same whether you have full crew or solo.
Thanks David! And yes very well done from Iwonka and Lukas, AND they sailed back from Vis today in 27-33knots SE, we hit 11.8 knots!
And I bet you were shouting for 12!
That's the one I've been waiting for!! Seeing how it's done and seeing it's ok to lean against another boat really helps a lot!! Thanks for doing this!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Most welcome Ross! I said I would film it and here it is ;) So... whats next???
@@45DegreesSailing Mate, I'm a blank slate, you can do a video on lowering the swimming platform and I would still learn a lot! 🤣
Thanks Nick, a MUST watch episode for all sailors. New for learning and others for revision. Best regards P&J
Thanks P&J!
Many thanks to the neighbors😅
yes glad they were patient! They followed us to the next port anyway 🤣
In that situation I prefer to turn the boat to the right, following the wind, and then exiting from the channel in reverse gear, stern to wind; much more control of the boat. What do you think? If you prefer going bow to the wind, I would expect to use the portside line as pivot, which is windward, keeping the boat in the middle of the other two ones. Please explain if something is wrong in my opinion. Thanks
I love watching you teach and how it gives genuine confidence, maybe not right away but invaluable guide to be out of ze comfort zone with any day of the week!
Thanks hun! Cant help teaching right! ;)
good rule: the higher the wind, the slower you go - step by step. Also agree with the trusters - they dont work in high wind, learn to do everything without them!
Nice. Always step by step!
I have to say this is really good ! Will be nice to see a parking movie in 20+ windows with heavy traffic with boats “taxing” on entarance . I didit once, with no trustees( broken ) one got hurt, but it will be super to see profesional approach. It’s 6-7 years and still thinking about that day😅
Well I have a few docking videos in heavy winds! Not really with lots of traffic though. Its hard to get all these things to line up on the days that I have time and ability to film! Will keep working on it
what do you do if when releasing the windward bow line, you cannot easily maintain position?
Lovely video Nick! How does it differ if the boat has twin rudders?
Mainly you do no have the control of moving the stern with the rudder. So you just centre your rudders and use the 2 stern/control lines for you adjustment.
Very good instruction from all of this series of videos. I would just be a bit concerned about letting the lazy lines go from the bow with the engine in gear. Maybe the lines are set up differently in Croatia than in Greece but I have seen quite a few lazy lines (dock end) get chewed around a prop (not mine, fortunately... yet).
Yes this is always something to be aware of and cautious of. Some a long and suitable to do so. Others have been caught before and are short now! It should be in first checks to see what the situation is with these lines. A good plan here is to pull them up from the shore and out to the side then releasing them so they are clear of the prop/stern
Very nice! First time it can feel a bit stressful, tons of stuff going on!
Certainly can! Love this method simply as you can slow down, and wait for your moment.
Awesome video!
Does the boat in the video have dual rudders or a single rudder?
Thanks!
Single rudder in this one. Same manoeuvre is done with twin rudders but using both stern lines for longer to manage the twist.
@@45DegreesSailing thanks a lot!!!
@@adipop344 most welcome!
Good method and executed nicely especially when the helm’s person is panicking and shouting contradictory directions to her husband because she is nervous/inexperienced lol good to show that unedited for learning. You also handle that well too. Just a request can you do one on flying drones in Croatia and what we need to register and do exactly. I’m looking at it and very confusing. I am thinking of bringing the 249g dji mini pro 4. TY
Great explanation Nick, as always. 👍💙😁
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Excellent video! Great method and so clear. Thanks! 🙏
Thanks Dilip!
Great instructional video. Thank you.
Cheers Chris
Your videos and explanations are excellent.
Thanks Christopher. Always working to make them better!
That was a lesson in patience, well doe
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Very good advices. I love these videos. ❤
Thanks Thomas. We will keep them coming!
Get some fenders out man. You've got some dimn students but that was way more drama than was required.
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you’re rude and totally unnecessary to this comments section
Great teaching, I love the drone shots while seeing the action in the cockpit. ❤
Very instructive. Thanks for sharing!!
"...if we had 30 knots..." :-)
lol. Yep
Again a great video 🎉
Thanks!
very very good lessons! thanks a lot.
Thanks
Welcome
Excellent instruction! Cheers!
Great video!
Thanks Alex!
Well done. 👏🏼
This guy is the worst instructor I have ever seen.
Wow! That is actually the first time I have ever had that comment! Can you elaborate and tell us why? Very intrigued 😊
Nice job!
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I need to say that the sequence is wrong. I have done such a monver very often with even very strong crosswind. The correct sequence of releasing the lines with crosswind is: first release leeward lazy line then the leeward stern line (both do not have any force because they are leeward), then the windward lazyline and in the end taking out the boat with engine power into the windward stern line and ease the windward stern line (powering into this line). You do not need the leeward stern line in this situation, especially with a single rudder boat.
Thanks for your input, though you might want to a) watch it again... and b) read what you wrote. Because you are contradicting yourself and also pretty much laying out the sequence in which we DID do it 🤦🏼♂
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I see in the video that you release the 2 lazy lines first and keep both stern lines whereas the leeward sternline is not needed at all. Therefore you release it prior to the windward lazy line.
@@ZZgrisuZZ We do indeed release the leeward lazy line, then easy the windward line to make sure that our power and control line are holding position, then release the windward lazy line, hold on the control line(s). Keeping the leeward stern line on while holding station allows you more control as you ease out of the berth without dragging along the windward yacht. It also makes the manoeuvre completely transferable to a twin rudder yacht where the stern lines determine your position in the berth.
Great video! Is this a twin rudder or a single rudder boat?
@@LukaBendzo this one is Hanse. Single rudder.
@@45DegreesSailing Am I right thinking that with twin rudder you'd be able to focus less on the helm while you're trying to pivot the boat using stern lines, until you have enough speed for steerage? Also, what would change if you'd need to "depart" into the wind (to starboard in your case)?
@@LukaBendzo Hey Luka great questions. Basically single or twin rudder you can centre the helm and not worry about it while you are on control lines. If I had to go to windward I would still plan to turn with the wind (when in a confined space) as you cannot beat the wind. So go with the wind as discussed in the video, then reverse in control into the wind until you have space to turn around.
@@45DegreesSailing great! I'm skippering a yacht next week starting in Biograd and given which pontoon I'm leaving from, in case jugo hits, that's what I might need to do. Just trying to visualize and do a bit of planning. Thanks for the tip!
Big fuss line it up leave
Lots of unnecessary drama but got out okay and thats the thing you are after
Any landing you walk away from is an okay landing
🤣 No drama. And when you leave in 20-30 knots on the beam 'line it up leave' will have you dragging along the leeward yacht and tangled in their mooring lines!
@@45DegreesSailing normal boaters don't leave in 30kts especially in a new boat
And there are many reasons why you might want to leave in 30kts. Even if that is only to go sailing in it! And I for one would rather do it without damaging my boat or someone else’s!!!
@@NatNay-cu3uv maybe they don’t. And as such I guess I’m not a normal boater, and people come to me to train them as such.
We regularly leave in 20+ knots. And will continue to do so!
@@davidllewelyn your better being in here wishing you were out there. Than out there wishing you were in here
Look why are you ladies getting broken hearted all I said was a bit fussy.
Typical club joiners