“Being a Beauty Object Hurts”
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Beauty is terror. Donna Tartt
Salma insists that women should have attractive qualities beyond their physical beauty. Yet 80% of men are too ugly to even be visible to women. [facepalm]
Beauty Fades But Dumb Is Forever 🤦🏽♂️💊
Yep
aka . . . the WALL
Stupid is as stupid does
😂
Beauty only fades when Man hangs on for too many years and never upgrade when they're unhappy
The silent groan of everyone when she said "I'm a feminist" lol. Spends the rest of the time being disagreeable and combative
Feminist is synonymous with "disagreeable and combative"🤣 One of my first questions with a girl I am interested in is: "Do you consider yourself a feminist?" Anything close to a yes and I hit the abort button on the relationship!
Kelly just confirmed the whole point of Rich's argument.....🤨😕
She "hurts" from being "beautiful" while currently being ugly 😂
jesus man lol
Kind of unnecessary no?
No need to sink to that level.
Just pathetic trying to be funny at the expense of someone else in this context
@@bojnebojnebojneNo it was very necessary. Leaving the delusion unchecked is how they end up ugly AND stupid.
These women prove they show no other values but beauty.
@@melissasmess2773 it's not hard showing your body on the internet and stupid simps paying them for it.
That is MOST women, and most women are average looking lol!
@@melissasmess2773that’s probably a low bar
Kelly was pump and dumped and can’t get over it
Beauty only hurts because we, as women, know it is our main commodity. It’s fighting a losing battle. We have beauty for a small portion of our life and then we spend the rest of the time chasing to be back to “when we had It”. Some women really only have beauty and when looks fade, they have nothing!
no. it hurts because you are afraid of competition. reality does not care about your feelings
Being a beauty object is hurtful to most women for the same reason being a success object is hurtful to most men. 80% of men don’t make six figures. 80% of women aren’t physically beautiful. Most men and most women aren’t desirable to the opposite sex. That’s the painful reality.
@@melissasmess2773🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for being somewhat honest. In truth, I would be depressed if I knew that my only value was my beauty and that it's fleeting and temporary. What a mind job!
in the west women elect to squander their main commodity, and when that is gone they get cats and get on SM to gaslight and bash men . . .
meanwhile a man in his 30-40s is just starting to hit his his stride (success), and has very little utility for a bitter, entitled, combative old woman. he has options and would be wise to exercise that.
"Well it hurts... but we are (I am) beautiful! :D"
They'll complain about being objectified until it stops happening, then they'll complain 3x as hard that they don't get noticed or hit on anymore.
Nothing is good enough for women. there is always room for complaining
Anna Paulina.
@@melissasmess2773
Everyone knows the:
"Guy who stayed at the party too long"
Archetype. But what's *really* sad? Is the party girl in her 50s/60s who still thinks she's 20.
Just... woof. They do the exact same baby talk voice and exaggerated gestures they did 30 years hence... and they're *perpetually* hurt & confused that nobody pays them any mind and/or wants to deal with them.
Most of these women are wearing a ton of makeup, and they still are maybe a 5/10... The resting B face doesn't help them
Lol
2008 I was in the carpenters Union in Chicago. I went from making about 80k a year to making 25k a year. And that was hustling and using connections I have in that union. I lost everything. 2 houses. A car. A boat.
4 other men I worked with killed themselves. Their wives left them. And took the kids. They lost literally everything. Including their lives . I’m not blaming their wives. Obviously these men were troubled. But these men felt hopeless. And couldn’t picture living a life without anything they had previously. And took the permanent solution to a temporary problem. Which was tragic.
That's fucking brutal man. Just crazy. But entirely predictable.
Kelly is every chick that’s on the dating apps lol 😂 swear
8:07 I didn’t leave him because he didn’t get his shit together!
8:28 I left him because he couldn’t get his shit together!
a woman will say waterer is needed to put her in the best light . . . it's a survival mechanism. that is why a woman can say two contradictions and not see any issue with that, because the objective is never about the truth - it's about how others feel about her.
@@Junoj101...what
So many examples of waiting to respond without listening to what is being said. Hard to reason with people like that.
that is now feelings work, logic is not a requirement. the logic can even contradict itself, as long as feeling as satisficed. Rich should have asked all of them first about their thoughts on "men as success objects" . . . not a single of of them would have had an issue with that.
Being a wallet hurts but no point in crying about it
OK cool bro, wanna lend me 50k for a business venture? 😁
@@TheHumanRangerget a job, a better job, or multiple jobs if you are able bodied
8:53 "I didn't say because he couldn't get his shit together" but that's exactly what you are saying. "he still doesn't have his shit together" and you left him.
This is like trying to have an intelligent conversation with a cat.
A cat at least knows not to poop where it eats
@@TheHumanRanger haha good one!!
We're literally all "objects"
Gia reminds me of my x wife. My wife was French and gorgeous married for 14 yrs she stuck up and down to my rodeo ride.
I left her for another woman I fu___ked up destroyed her life and grass was not greener.
"beauty objects" hearts Kelly, yet she has more markup than everyone collectively. someone should ask her, if she has a problem with that statement, why does she have makeup in the first place.
she dresses that way for herself, not for attention from men! 🤣🤣🤣
Not every woman is beautiful, but because you guys were residing your feelings instead of in the frontal lobe of your brain, do not expect men to take you seriously and to see you as anything more than a beauty object and this feminist is a perfect example of I feel like I feel like I feel like
You can't be a beauty object when you're ugly.
Lmao!
On the inside and outside!
Laura calmly sitting there looking absolutely gorgeous
Laura was the best woman on the show. She listened and kept an air of confidence about herself.
Kelly was raised by her father, but he did a pretty bad job if she still believes she is a Disney Princess who deserves a Prince Charming.
Sadly, most dads are absolutely brainwashed into raising their little girls to be narcissistic princesses. Told to call them princesses and told to tell them they DESERVE the ABSOLUTE BEST and NEVER SETTLE!!!!!
They want to use their beauty to play around and leverage it to get the things they desire but have a huge problem when it's used as a metric to judge them. Madness. 😂
Narcisistic individuals.
@@zephyrr108 yeah, this is why the greatest modern day travesty to befall the human species is placing a camera in a phone putting it in the hands of a woman and giving her access to a platform that allows her to show herself to the world. 😂
22:00 - Kelly zones out, rolls her eyes and starts to become annoyed after Rich talks about beauty cues, facial symmetry, hip-to-waist ratio etc LOL
and she doesn't have a clue about applying makeup.
krustee looking ish lol@@muskokamike127
It’s not that the only thing that women can bring to the table is sex, food, and kids, it’s that those are top deal breakers for men. He needs to be physically attracted to you, he needs to believe that you can birth healthy kids and not run away with them, and he needs to know that you can contribute to his basic needs: cooking and cleaning.
Sure but most men in the West want 50/50. What do men bring to the table other than taking our youth and beauty? Cats and wine will suffice.
Being success object hurts.
Kelly, you dont like being called beautiful, yet your buying your " beauty products " in the "beauty section ".
It's just like...like..like...you know like...
Things women will never understand is they can't decide what men should love them for. If what men value about them is their beauty, then they are beauty objects. Period. Yes, they could love them for their personality, for their intelligence, their sense of humor (and I'm sure some do), but if most men value them for their beauty, then that's how it is. It's like a man complaining that women should love him for his video gaming skills.
Vidya gamez are bad mkay
I made it to the 2 minute mark before I was rolling my eyes and thinking what a waste of time it is to have Team Woman on the podcast. Let me sum up women's attitudes about objectification: "It's ok when WE do it."
I personally enjoyed it. It exposes them.
This channel has so much truth to it. I attest that we all want good-looking successful men.
Kelly's body language is extremely aggressive and annoying. I would imagine that she would act the same way in a relationship to manipulate a man.
3:00 kelly is living in a fantasy world full of rainbows and unicorns. Women leave men in the lurch the moment trouble strikes. ALL THE TIME.
The divorce laws state that his financial situation when you file is what your alimony and child support is based on. If you think he's going to lose his job, women WILL file before that happens so they can get the higher rate.
At least people, men and women notice you. You can be a good decent man, and still very invisible to most people.
I accept women's nature. Quite immune to it. I still however hold the right to not want to be with a woman that would leave me when there's a downtime. Regardless of my open mindedness about their nature.
That's my perspective.
I'll also advice all men to feel same. Understand the nature, doesn't mean accept the bs.
This one is fire!!
Salma said we have to compliment things other then beauty, but if that’s all she brings, that’s all men will compliment. If traditional values worked in the past, women cooked, cleaned, and cared for family, all these “skills” are valued. It’s not sexist to think this way, this is what traditional women brought to the table before women’s rights. More women today care about makeup, social media, celebrities, instead of learning survival skills, caring and nurturing a family. I see women today care more about their friends and are separated from all their family. I deeply think woman should be family oriented, period.
Also to expand on the "object" tropes - those things actually go to or speak to the underlying reproductive/mating imperatives. Men seek fertility as an evolutionary imperative and "beauty object" is the indicator for that so men seek "beauty" as indicating the sought after fertility. Women seek an ability to provide protection and resources as an imperative and "success object" is the indicator for that so women seek "success" as the indicator of the ability to provide that.
Exactly! Keywords = evolutionary imperative. It's in our DNA. People get ideological about something that is biological, it's absurd. Face the reality and do your best to meet the standards! There are plenty of average people who can find a mate and build a life and a family together; if that's what they want.
It causes her pain because she knows she has the burden of keeping herself beautiful which becomes more and more difficult as she ages....that s the reason why she says she is hurt when Rich says women are beauty objects
Beauty is the eye of the beholder. Period...
Yes, but beholder eyes are factory built and there's way less variation than people will admit.
Y'know why jacked 7 foot guys with square jaws do well? Because facial symmetry, fitness & tallness are hardwired biological attraction triggers.
Y'know why curvaceous & statuesque women with silky hair and clear skin do well? Same shtick.
@@ephraimwinslow For most parts , beautiful ppl have lots of perks.
and I just BET you only date ugly guys with great personalities who don't have a job.
To quote everyone's fave....Since the dawn of human time... women being beauty objects is the most basic part of male DNA. Works for me.
Anyone claiming that they are 'very funny' are usually NOT funny at all.
when a woman tells her women friends that she just meat a dude, the first or second question that she is asked is "what does he do for living"
when a man tells his men friends that he just meat a woman, the first or second question that the ask is "is she fine" or "did you smash that"
the reality is very simple if one was to just omit what women say and focus on what they do.
Being loved conditionally also hurts but you’re rarely gonna hear a guy sulking about “how unfair things are”
beauty lies in simplicity
I really enjoyed the video. I thought a vast array of topics were well covered. I like the way you came at them with truth. The problem is, have you ever noticed women will never admit to the long list of requirements they have for men? It always gets skirted over and brushed to the side. You tried to ask them about their skills and what they bring to the table, but they get defensive and say your pigeon holing them. Are they unable to dialog back and forth and just answer the question with the truth? I understand as an interviewer, you need to be gentle. I just wish someone would hold their feet to the fire and make them give the truth.
11:40 "I just want to look good" well, you're failing lol.
0:22 well they definitely earned that bad reputation and they continuously make it worse for themselves
God Bless Gia, but the majority of women will not do what she did. Kelly has overdosed on feel good Kool aid.
"How do you write women so well?"
"I think of a man, then I take away reason and accountability"
That scene just popped into my head here
I think this discussion about using "Beauty Objects" could easily be resolved by saying "Beauty Traits" or just Beauty to avoid the emotional reaction / response we know women will have to that.
Because i can separate my feelings from that assessment as a man and view it completely neutrally.
But many women can't do that so it just causes unnecessary friction in the dialogue and probably makes it harder to get the point across.
I can see why it maybe be used for psychological reasons to draw fourth a response in order to get to the bottom of her mindset, i totally get that.
But after that it's not really necessary in order to hammer home a point.
Ok if not beauty objects take the makeup. Saying that not complement Iam a human being like yes then if no makeup would they accept a complement then?
That woman just lives to hear her own voice.
Hurts if the beauty object is too big for the hole she created.
"Being a beauty object hurts" said the 5
The funny aspect is that in psychology, a person is named "object" and things inside his or her mind are named good or bad objects!
These women can't even agree with each other, chase excellence guys! 😎
Kelly is a genius be on the look out 😂
These women all proved Rich right no matter how hard they tried to deny it.
Being a Beauty object hurts when you can't capitalize on it the way you used too or the way you want too.
Try being ugly or invisible to the other sex and then give me ur opinion on the matter 😅
Seems like the question is to what degree does each person have commitment. Rich can't lose his argument because of the statistics. It should be about how men and women can be more selfless from a materialistic standpoint and more focused on not hurting another person.
Women dump men in trouble: in regards to that segment at about 5:00- absolutely 💯 correct!
Kelly is a box of rocks😂..CTE from the headboard
Lets just say, the most interesting XX i dated was not a model. She had an amazing personality, though...
It totally changed my perspective!
That woman...Kelly Levy DOES ONLY DRESSES FOR HERSELF. KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
I remember this hot chick I was dating said her mom told her "beauty is pain" 😳
I remember thinking "Damn, can I help because her mom is clearly in agony?!" 🤣
"Object" is not a personal label, it's in the context of social/biological construct.
Richard, where did you find all those PickMes??!! 😂😂😂
8:09 "I've never mentioned that I left him because he did not have his shit together" and then proceeds to say she left him because he couldn't get his shit together 😂😂😂
Women CHEAR each other on for leaving their man, for ANY reason, let alone he stops making money. So NO, they aren't labelled as gold diggers.
HOWEVER, if MAN leaves his wife because SHE chose to get fat, whether it's gluttony or laziness or both, HE is absolutely demonized.
So as it's been said many times, women can have standards, they are actually encouraged to have them and enforce them, but men aren't allowed ANY standards AT ALL.
Rich is right about a lot of things, but Salma's point at the end was bang on. Rich's use of the word "object" is what is offending the women because it minimises any of their other traits and reduces them to "it's all about the beauty". Indeed, beauty is important for men, but if we didn't value the other stuff then we'd just marry anyone who was good looking and we wouldn't be talking about how she has to be feminine, submissive, intelligent, and have all these other wife material skills. "Beauty object" is a very clickbaity term, and think Rich knows this. He's playing the game to get eyeballs on this channel. I wonder if he'd use this term if he wasn't a UA-camr.
Rich didn’t invent the term Beauty Object, it was coined by Dr. Warren Farrell
@@moff_unplugged Doesn't really matter who invented it. It still gets women's backs up and doesn't really invalidate anything I said.
The point of calling a woman a beauty object and men are a success object
Those are basic things we desire but don’t encompass everything that makes up a solid, stable relationship
Men are visual and women know this which is why they do things like use social media as a thirst trap and I’m stating the obvious but Kelly is obviously filtering it through her past trauma instead of being able to accept the objective reality that Rich is trying to present
This is why women are so difficult to engage because they’re easily get offended and hurt by blunt truth rather than trying to view it from a male perspective which is why feminism confuses everything and makes it hard to even have a reasonable rational discussion
Kelly says she’s funny yet she’s emotional and defensive throughout a very civil discussion which leads me to believe that she’s just saying that because she wants to believe it rather than it being the reality and she sort of encapsulates the real problems we’re having in general when talking to and dealing with modern women who unfortunately tend to be delusional
Saying you’re a funny person while demonstrating that you’re easily hurt and not once displaying a sense of humor is a clear delusion
Maybe she is in other settings but if we’re judging her purely by her actions she isn’t and and in fact displaying that she’s easily hurt and offended when people with humor tend to develop a sense of humor as a coping mechanism to stay calm and handle difficult interactions so it’s an emotional cope to present herself as something that she’s not and this is a tendency of women
Salma is doing the I don’t disagree with what you say but how you say it trope that women often do to control men’s speech as well
Regarding Kelly, “The lady doth protest too much”. My question is, if it hurts to be considered a sex object, why dress in such a seductive manner? I would imagine she would dress more modestly.
It’s like, it not like, just like beauty, like ya know. It’s like yeah. Like
Spoiler Alert: You will only hear from Kelly Levy--the woman in the lower left section of the screen. The other beautiful women are silent. (for the most part)
Kelly: you’re a 6 on a good day. Chill. You aren’t an object.
I think Laura's point was best, i agree with her 100% 😂
I have to comment, Laura has more natural beauty than almost all of these other women combined. Not to mention she seems much more intellectual as she listens and has the confedence to wait for the right time join the join or not join the conversation. Note to the world many times the quite one is the one who is learning the most and knows the most as they are really listening. They are not just listening until they start processing they next comments if not diatribe.
Yeah, I wanted to hear her talk more. She didn't use aggressive body language like Kelly, but just listened and was respectful.
Was stunned into silence how far off reality women have become.
Kelly is so disrespectful it's sickening
NOTICE HOW LAURA SAT THERE IN SILENT FEMINIMITY...... SHE IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL......ADJUSTED FOR AGE THAT IS
Not exactly a great trait for a podcast. :)
The female dishonesty is epic here! Lack of sweetness
Ohhh my gooooddd! Their conversations were going nowhere… the mental gymnastics.
Salma makes sense.
Women are not objects, but that's how men perceive them. They're beauty objects to men.
Would she rather be called Lizzo?
Woman drop men that loose their shit, but that does not make her a golddigger, it is relationship terms that changed and she most persue a man who can provide for her kids
I don't mean any disrespect towards Kelly Levy here, but she is not being truthful towards herself and it is very apparent in her entire body language.
She even contradicted herself when responding to Rich's point about there being a deadline for women's tolerance for men's inability to get their shit together.
I hope she watch this back and realize her contradictory statements because you can learn so much about yourself from watching yourself when you are not pressured or in the situation.
It is immensely helpful to course correct yourself.
I as a man would also not view the scenario described as a gold digger, i would also see the woman leaving as expected coz i wouldn't myself put up with that crap.
In the end you have to respect yourself before you can respect someone else.
I definitely dress for other people, because if I don't, I'm going to embarrass people close to me lol.
"women have gotten a bad rap for a long time"
no kidding...there's a reason for that
Women want to be Better men. They strive to be the King. Rather than what they actually are. The Queen.
It hurts because they are a declining asset.
Its better for the women to stay with a man who cheats but takes care of them than to sray alone at these ages
"You can't handle the truth".
Gia had her first job at age 10? 🤥🤥 I’ve got a sneeze..💩💩💩
Lots of kids babysit or do odd jobs. Paper route or mowing lawns. Not uncommon.
I started pet sitting and then babysitting around that age.
I sublet my brothers paper route at 10. Hustlers hustle.😊
Oh men are never objectified. 😂
Kelly is so upset that beauty is the primary reason men are attracted to women.
25:24 In kelly's head: dum dee dum dum dum dee do blah blah blah and then henry mancini's elephant walk "I can't believe these idiots are saying these LIES lies LIES" I put on this clown makeup FOR MEEEEEE I don't CARE what anyone SEEEES
Yeah, 100% you do, you're just living in denial. No freaking way to women go through the agony of 6" stillettos for THEM......to feel GOOD.
🚬
She drank the kool-aid hard