@@beepthesheep867 Agreed on many of the above. After seeing this video we are getting the e2008 as well. Specs, range and other details are good but at the end of the day I love driving this car. I also love to see it in my driveway. And the best part is when I take it for a wash, it looks like a supercar when it's freshly washed imo 😊. I work from home the last 2+ years and driving around is my getaway. I live near Reading and love to drive on the B roads around here. We did Whinfell forest last month and it was fine. The four of us and a full boot. We had to stop several times to charge but it was fun. I have thought of getting a bigger car such as the Ioniq 5 or the EV6 but they are very expensive and don't really need all that space. Teslas are a sensible choice but the build quality is shocking. They look very bland as well. Driving an EV is so much better than the petrol version so what I say is go for what you like.
@@beepthesheep867 That’s quite a comment - almost a whole review! Do agree it’s really a second car - we have a family estate as well and there’s no way the e208 is useable for a family, but as a commuter/second car it’s pretty much perfect when you take running costs into account. Would love a large EV to replace our estate but as a decent one is £50K ish (or £60K for a Tesla) that’s not going to happen anytime soon!
Excellent review. We have had ours for 18 months and covered 16,000 miles now. We love it. We test drive it back to back with the MINI and the E-208 is easily the better all round model. We love the cabin,3D cockpit and the fun drive! Wish it was a bit more efficient especially in the winter. This class of car is where it’s at. Just need better range then no need for these stupidly big and heavy SUV EVs. (MINI E is FWD although it uses the RED BMW i3 running gear. Too much torque steer! Honda E is RWD though..)
Had mine for 2 years and absolutely love it. Nobody that has driven it has had a problem seeing the dials over the steering wheel so I really don't get that at all. You mention that the battery has changed, it hasn't, its still exactly the same. Had an e-corsa as a courtesy car when mine was being serviced and it felt like chalk and cheese. Dull inside and out and the steering wheel felt like it belonged on a bus!
@@Wdf-76 "Battery upgrades" @30 seconds and "battery changes" a few seconds later (and more throughout the video). Heat pump efficiency and longer gearing to suit the motorway is the only difference and at less than 4% improvement in the range I wouldn't bother waiting to be honest.
Test drove one and no problems with the steering wheel (5FT 10) or my wife (5FT 6). On Sport Mode it was plenty pokey enough and the small wheel makes it really easy to flick about. Lovely car (ordered one!).
@@steveholderness1450 I’m pretty sure she meant the battery system, not the battery itself. There is a big change in the energy management software and in the aircon system as well. She mentioned those.
Back in Januari i did a test drive with the e-208..instant in love with how it drives and looks..directly ordered it 9th of jan..still have to wait until end of August. Did buy the GT PACK version that comes with everything except wirelles charge and special roof..it's gona be the improved range version. Can't wait :-)
hello, its 2024 now and i bought an e 208 used with 20tkm 2 month ago. we are quite pleased with this car and charge it with the solar panels on our roof. being a retired car mechanic my only complaint is that there is still no repair manual avaiable for the e version. i have to do some learning here, it is plenty different from the guzzlers i repaired all the years. we also own a citroen ami , just for the cuteness and, while that is on a far lower level of engeneering, i enjoy the ease of maintaining it very much. greetings from portugal
I have had this exact model for 18 months. It's just brilliant! The only down side is the range drop on high speed motorway trips in cold weather, they can be... 'interesting'. That aside it's great car. :)
Test drove one of these a few months ago, nice car, nice interior but no matter how much adjustment couldn't read the speedo because of the steering wheel. Not just me, my wife couldn't see any better. Can't believe someone signed off on this.
I've set mine very low and it's fine, but I'm 5'8. It seemed weird at first but actually I think this is the superior position as every time I get in a 'normal' car, the higher wheel just seems wrong.
Great video, I really like the e208. I just wish it had another 60 miles of range. Good point about the Ora Cat, it's a smart looking car but the boot is tiny and it's an unknown brand, if they started at £20k for the base small battery version, they would be on to something, but £30k is just far too much
Ora Cat looks good but won’t be here until next year now and sounds like it’s going to be as much/more than the e208 with no more range. Shame as it looks really good.
@Billy Heywood. "Unknows Brand"???? Get your automotive history book out and check Peugeot heritage. They have been making cars for over 100 years. "Unknows Brand" indeed??
@@trevorbevan587 As I’m currently driving my 7th Peugeot, I don’t think I’ll be needing that history book. If you read the comment again, I’m talking about Ora, which is an unknown brand in the UK 😉
@@bill_heywood My apology. I misread your comment regarding, "unknown" mistakenly thought you were referring to the Peugeot e-208, which by your own experience, is a historic make. Oro Cat? Never heard of that; as you say, an "unknown" brand.
@@beepthesheep867 decided to wait for the 2023 model which will be receiving a facelift and potentially have more range. You think that’s not a good idea?
@@beepthesheep867 hah yeah of course. I know what you mean. I am not ready to yet place an order anyway, will be around New Year. So that’s why I thought it’s better to wait a few extra months and get the 2023 model..
I have had this car -Gt line in the gorgeous red since Feb and i love love it!the kids love it!i have got many compliments on how cute and lovely the car is.to me peugeot designs one of the best attractive cars out there and they r not mad expensive!the fangs and the claws are just everything for me!and i see the Digital I cockpit just fine so I don't get what everyone is on about.we have been on many trips on the motorway with it and never had any issues with the range,we just plan ahead our journey and map out our charging points.i love my electric car!Well done peugeot !!
Have one on order (GT in Elixir Red). Found it a great car to drive, plenty of performance and enough range for us to only need charging weekly. (Max 150 miles a week). Then of course there are the looks - we love it and the interior too. Don’t need the space as have a family estate so this will be the perfect second car for us. Have to wait for approx. 4 months for delivery though.
@@ISuperTed I actually called the dealership yesterday asking if they knew a little more about the delivery. They said that they haven't even set a production date. In what country do you live? And did you order straight from Peugeot?
I picked up a 2020 GT model and it's a really nice car. I can definitely say I won't ever buy an ICE car again. The menus on the infotainment have some funky quirks, like inconsistent A/C menu but apart from that there's nothing really wrong with it for commuting and the odd long journey. The Peugeot app could do with a good upgrade. I don't find any issue seeing the cockpit screen and it's much less distracting than some HUDs.
This remind me of the 407, a beautiful looking car, especially the estate but the interior was cramped for a tall person. I'll stay with my 2008 Peugeot 4007 with its spacious cabin, loads of baggage room, powerful, economic engine and easy to get in and out of, important at my age.
I have been admiring this car for some time, it even comes in some fun colours (not many car manufacturers do that these days). Though the new version basically nails what I need, I doubt the price will be something I can afford. The GT version, with added 3phase charger and panoramic roof, with a £5k deposit, 8k annual mileage and over 48 months (about the limit of what you'd want to do on a PCP scheme) puts the monthly's at £474 and that is before, insurance, maintenance and charging...for a supermini; ouch.
I'd recommend going for an old model one second hand. If you do less than 40 miles a day I don't think you will notice much difference with the new model.
@Beep the Sheep my maths isn't wrong, I assure you. To start, my current car a CT200h costs me (amortised over three years) ~£70pcm covering insurance and servicing, home maintenance extends to filling the washer bottle and adjusting the tyre pressures every so often. Fuel, depends on what I am doing, this month it will be £100 or so, but usually it's about £50, it was way six months ago. I don't have a monthly payment. When I did it was only £180pcm. The three phase charger was on the car not at home, at home I'd have a regular wall box for quick charging. The 3phase adds £500 to the price of the car, to me it's a sensible addition as some public chargers (non rapid chargers) have it. It doesn't really affect the affordability of the car.
@@beepthesheep867 Its not that I hardly use it, it simply appears to run on thin air, the CT is basically a Prius in a posh frock. I have never had less than 50mpg out of it. And being a Lexus the chances of a major breakdown are slim. Even before Covid and I was commuting I was only putting £12 - £25 a week in it, or £18 - £37 in todays prices. Working from home means no commute, so I have a couple of short journeys per week (supermarket type trips) and depending on the weather and what I am doing otherwise one or two 70 mile round trips to the airfield on a weekend and then a couple of long road trips (I could do them by air if the weather was guaranteed but it never is). I really do want an electric car, but I would have to make too many sacrifices elsewhere in my life to make it happen for a newer one. A used 2nd Gen leaf (40kwh) would do me fine for 90% of my journeys, (though I'd still have to find £8-10k on top of mine as a trade in) so I have been looking at that more recently, but that 168 miles is a bit low for the road trip, given that most of that journey is at motorway speeds I'd be stopping to charge quite a few times I'd imagine and in cold weather (say we get an early Easter), it might very well mean having to rent an ICE car.
@@AviatingWithMel I wouldn't bother adding 3 phase, unless you have a lack of DC charging in your area. Most public AC chargers will probably give you well under 22kwh even if they are capable.
I think that it is probably the best small electric car at the moment. However, it is too expensive for me and will wait until 2025 for some cheaper and better cars to arrive.
Had mine 6 month, lovely to drive and range is really good. I am 6ft and yes the top of the steering wheel is exactly in line with the center of the dash display and cant move wheel lower or it be hitting my knees. The display can be be put in a format that moves the speedo to the upper right so can at least see that bit of information. would really been a good idea to have heads-up display as an option. All in all very happy with the car, however what would have put me off ever buying one, if I had known, is the app is appalling. Its rather important to me to monitor and manage the charging when not at the vehicle. However the app struggles to even connect. Currently although driven the car almost every day it still showing last connection 15 days ago. Also maintenance records not showing and location of the vehicle on the map never correct or up to date.
I wish the e208 was available in my county, It would make a lot of sense for me right now. Maybe one day I'll change my petrol 208 with an electric version. The 208 is definitely a a couples or single person car, and luckily I have no issues with the driving position but I get how it could be frustrating for others. I love my red GT.
I'm a big fan. My parents had these however i think it needs bigger screen and tablet like screens too besides that Dashboard is 10/10 also electroheads have to take the time to turn in the lights and show us the beauty of it.
What I don't like about these many reviewers is that they simply get the top of the range model and review that. In fact, I drive an Allure e208 with the optional 10" screen and although the grille has the same colour tones as the car, the lion is a single colour. Not all models are the same and it seems that either in the UK everyone gets the GT or GT Line or Premium or else these reviewers are simply doing marketing for the manufacturer.
imma wait for the new Renault 5, base model rumored at under £19k with alloys and 50kw CCS (just waiting for the Renaultvolution event to merge all factories and make production so much cheaper & efficient)
Also a thought about motorway driving reducing range for electric cars. The weight may be too great to have a proper gearbox between the electric motor and the wheels, but what about an overdrive? A very small and relatively light addition that could be engaged while on the motorway and that will extend the range quite a bit. With modern materials, it should weigh about 20lb or 9Kg and could make the motor work 10%, 20%, 30% less at motorway speeds.
@@jumpferjoy1st Electric motors weigh almost nothing and can spin faster than any fear box, which is why I said, “ratios” and not “gears”. Try again. This time study a bit of engineering.
@@afcgeo882 Can you re-read the comments, I think you have been confused by your own comments. The Tesla Model S 85/P85 has two motors at 90lbs each. So that is 180lbs or 81Kg. This is the size of an average sized person. Is that truly, almost nothing? I really question your level of sarcasm as you never know who you are talking to. As to the original subject, with electric motors running at motorway speeds draining the battery faster, how do YOU think this can be overcome?
I wouldn't exactly call £30,000 affordable, for that same money you can get many other new ICE cars that are in a class above for less than that such as the VW Golf or even things like an S line Audi A3. Its also way to close to things like the VW ID3 which again is a bigger car in the next class up. Looks to be a good car but it needs to be £5000 cheaper for it to be a solid "affordable" option in my opinion
How does it handle very steep inclines (from a dead stop)? I live in a mountainous area and have to use 1st gear to get up some of these hills in a gas car.
All ev cars have max power at start and lower speeds and very good torque, for just this issue, so it will be much better on hills where an ice car will struggle, especially if you have to use gears.
e208 (and most evs if not all) has max torque (not power) from 0 rpm and then drops while the rpm increase (power picks up then). So, you can climb any hill with unparalleled ease. You can even stop at 25degrees incline and start slowly with 2km/h in reverse. I do the last part every day while exiting our garage :D
I'm waiting for an electric car that I can justify the price tag on lol. Nothing yet.. So I keep driving my diesel when I have to and ride my ebikes whenever I can instead.
My £100 banger with 207k on clock does 60mpg.... Drives like new... Only had it 7 yrs so very good vfm.... As to a car for £30k.... My house did not cost that much.... No way.
I like the Peugeot e208 but for the same money, there's the VW ID.3, which has more space, more range and is designed as an EV, not derived from an ICE car.
I was waiting for the microlino however that price has rises from som £12k to now £20k. Bring me a Dacia Spring and I am ready to buy however, I assume they will rise from £14k to some £20k. We do seem to have an accounting issue in setting future customer expectations 😂😂
I don't get it. My charging cable fits under the false floor of the boot quite snuggly without having to remove the tyre repair kit stuff (and without the charging cable bag obviously).
Ora Cat really screwed up here. They could have easily dominated the market in size and range and price but decided to be greedy. Releasing a car in standard range when they have a long range one that sells cheaper than the MG ZS long range abroad, and then charging £30500 for it after plug in car grant as a marketing strategy, which is useless now the grant doesn't exist anymore! So you're looking at a standard range Ora cat for £32000 now! Stupid and greedy sales strategy from Ora Cat!
R2D888, I agree with you. I don't think that it is very practical either. The boot isn't that big and there isn't a rear window wash/wiper which is pretty much essential here. I think that the BYD Dolphin will be the same.
The e208 is a decent looking car, but the manufacturers keep at the silly prices. Looking on the Peugeot site at the PCP, they want a whopping £8,712 deposit and then £279 for a four year, 6k miles/year deal. This is for the cheapest Active Premium model with no options. For the basic petrol 1.2 Puretech 75 S&S, the deal is £4,114 deposit and then £209 for a four year, 6k miles/year deal. So the big issue remains that manufacturers are loading up the cars with chintzy bling and then asking top dollar for it. I bet the lower spec e208 didn't sell as it was cheaped out spec wise and was offered at not much less than the Active Premium. Lets be honest, if they did a proper job, they could be offering a basic e208 at £25k, which at five thousand more than the petrol makes a great deal of rational sense. Ten thousand more as it is at the moment with cheap bling added, I don't think so.
I have to agree with this even though I have one on order. The only reason I can afford one is it’s a company scheme and basically I am leasing it for 3 years at a substantially lower monthly payment than I would elsewhere and everything is included (even tyres). They at too expensive for the vast majority of private buyers currently - this has to change and I believe it will but not for a few years.
@@ISuperTed I don't think it will change until 10-15 years cos we can still buy brand new petrol cars until 2030.. and even then up to that point they will want top dolly and when we are forced to buy an new car (electric) after 2030 they will keep price up to substin profet.. but I think by 2035 the price will definitely decrease maybe as by then people will start to lower price to get the deals done. Then it will start falling that plus new technology by then..
I've got to say, you keep quoting figures for a car's battery and say it powers the car to X power. This confuses an already confused public. The battery stores energy (kWh). The electric motor delivers the power (kW) or (PS) and Torque (Nm).
The presenter sums up the slightly scary aspect of this car, @ 7:11, when she says that fiddling with the infotainment screen "can be a little awkward when driving". I've never worked out how these screens can actually be legal, given they are so distracting.
We bang on about simplified screens and more importantly...BUTTONS! Fortunately the e-208 does have the keys in the middle of the centre console - but overall designers do need to give us physical buttons/dials etc to make things easier.
@@Electroheads If not buttons then at least a single logical layout. The thing about buttons that makes them easy isn’t their tactile feel, but rather the universal ease of use. You may not remember cars of the 1980s or 90s that I learned to drive on (or Volvos of the 2000s), but having many oddly laid out buttons is just as complicated. What’s packing is basic UX. Simplification of use is as important as definition. Large screens should be for large touch areas, not more tiny touch areas. The trick for our brains is “choices”. The fewer the options we have have, the easier. So… an option of two or three large touch buttons should be standard. Burying controls is fine as long as it stays within that structure. Unfortunately, car critics have always complained that low use functions were being buried within layers of screens, so companies now put 20 touch buttons on screens, which is actually worse. Finally, why not mirror the infotainment screens in the digital readouts and shy not use paddles or steering wheel buttons to select?
It might be nice, and drives nice, BUT I’ve driven a year old e-2008 for work recently and it drank battery incredibly fast. At 70mph on motorway it drank 101 miles of battery in 54 miles………..it was lovely to drive and had a lovely feel with the materials, but that electric battery isn’t useable as your only car……..
EVs generally fail at motorway speeds. They’re heavy and there’s no regen braking going on. This is why Peugeot upgraded the electric drive system for 2023, specifically to improve at motorway speeds.
Bless you, Tish... you do make me giggle...! As lovely as the e-208 looks, I think I'd rather have a REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE Mini Electric... if ever they decide to make one, that is...!! 🤣
Tish… I wonder… do any EV owners actually stow their cables away into the boot? Especially with the lower range (sub-200mile) ones? With how often you end up charging? I have way too many things in my boot to ever bother lifting the lid. Never assume it’s three fingers though… always ask first.
The cable bag can get in the way, even if you just put a couple of bags in the boot. You can just stash the cable in the back seat if you don't have passengers. For the daily commute you could easily leave it at home.
@@afcgeo882 Over the last 2 years, total 17,000 miles. Always charge at home, or on a rapid charger if on a long trip (and they have their own, chunky cables). In that time, I have slow charged away from home once, at a holiday let - used my brother in law's 3 pin plug cable, as I had not planned to need to charge there. I figure there's no need to carry the extra weight around....
@@thelaserhive3368 not completely. Some offer free charging for 7kw and 22kw AC but often the CCS 50kw is chargeable. Tesco's podpoint chargers were installed in partnership with VW so they may get free charging at all of them
Just remember to download the Pod point app and register wit them (it's free). As mentioned the Tesco 7kw are free to everyone and the apps map will confirm that. However, even on the free chargers if you plug in and don't activate it they will turn off after 15 minutes. Some places they have managed to turn off that feature and you may get away with it without the app. But to be on the safe side, so you don't come back to an uncharged car, get the app and confirm the charge when you plug in. Oh and ALWAYS unplug from the car first then the charger when leaving. Otherwise if you tug your cable at the charge point first you could end up breaking the lock shut in there, and in turn trapping your cable!
All electric cars are a backward step. We are used to going 600 miles plus between fuel stops with old as the hills diesel cars. ' Come on in sir, I am selling this electric model for £10'000 more than you are used to paying, with a range of a third of what you are used to and it decreases the older the car gets ? ' Sounds like a great bargain lol ?
£30k is not affordable for most people! Plus insurance/ maintenance. Buy a small 2-3 year old petrol/ hybrid for now and see how the EV market pans out before committing yourself. There will be many changes to EV's in the next few years.
We have been driving an EV for over a year now. I cant imagine why they still make ICE(gas) cars. Here in America fuel prices are anywhere from $4.50 to $7.00 per gallon. For us that's very expensive. Cost me $80 to top off the Range Rover! To top off our EV it cost us charging at home $ 3.89 . At the superchargers it's around $9.00. That's around 290 to 310 miles depending on the driving conditions. Diesel fuel is needed due to the large loads and distances trucks drive. And for heavy equipment and farms equipment. But gasoline doesn't make much sense anymore. Thanks, from across the pond.
Here in the UK it's now costing over £80 to fill up a little 1.4ltr Toyota with Diesel. or £2 plus a Ltr 😭. Unfortunately EV,s are way over my max budget of £5K. O well maybe in 2030 when the second hand price's drop to below 5K. If I'm still here that is.😉😊
It’s not as bad as most people think. I have one on order and drove it for 30 minutes on a test drive. I’m 5 foot 10 (178cm) and it was fine for me - I could see over the wheel and it was quite comfortable, same for my wife who’s 5 foot 6. Definitely needs to be checked before buying though.
Had one for 2 years and the steering wheel position is superb.. I'm 6ft and my wife is 5ft and neither have a problem with it. Same in my wife's Peugeot 2008.
Affordable 😂😂😂😂 When they come down to about £15k or under £250 per month with minimal deposit on PCP then they might be affordable. But currently there is no way I’d swap my car to something like this. It’ll take years to make enough savings to warrant the change. And honestly. The motorway journey range is still an issue. I do a 300+ mile journey every 3 months and I don’t want to extend my journey with 2 charges along the way. And public charging is expensive too. So it really isn’t as affordable as they think.
I hate how people now claim 30-40k cars as adorable.. It's not... I had a look minimal dipost of say £500 as most people can't thrown Money in.. it's still 530 per month.. Even if they go well ,28k is affordable 15-20k is definitely affordable for the masses or at least 60% of households that are not lucky to be earning 25k Plus wages
I have one and it has been very cheap to run, as I have a wall charger on the drive. With an EV tariff for 4 hours of 5p per Kw you can fill the battery for £2.50. Range in winter is a bit low but motorway hops of 120 miles with half hour charge stops are ok. Range in summer is 200 miles. Only gone wrong once in two years, the 12 volt battery replaced. On PCP lease, the depreciation in two years is almost zero so cost of ownership is low. I drove diesels for 20 years, they cost me far more.
@@Chappers.Gaming They do that to entice people into switching to EVs. The full phrase should be 'they are affordable (for an EV, that currently costs 1.5x than their ICE counterpart in the lower end of the spectrum)'. Car makers are really out of touch with their audiences if they think people would drop their perfectly working ICEs to get less range for even more money! They need to entice customers with something more substantial than the increased perceived performance of EVs vs ICEs at similar specs. Until EVs dont penetrate sub 15K USD market, they will be a pipe dream for 90% of the world. Lastly, one big item not emphasized enough that is important for most people in thirld world countries with shitty roads, in this review it is mentioned that you need to 'treat it more gentle' over botched roads. This immediately makes it a no-go for people driving in areas with lack of road maitenance like my country.
It's not a terribly ugly car, but can't say I find it attractive - looks like a 306 that's eaten all the pies, then had a nose and bum job :-) Expensive compared with ICE, but competitive for an EV. Range is still too short to be a main car..... It's OK day to day, but not realistic for regular long trips to rural locations (yet)
I think they won't make cheap electric cars. If they can build them for $20K and sell them for $30K, there's a $10K profit. However, if the car costs them $8K, they can't sell it for more than $10K. A $2K profit.
A 25% profit margin would be a dream! Right now EVs sell at a LOSS! It’s a small net loss versus a decade ago when the Tesla Y cake out, but still a loss. They’re hoping that the R&D will become cheaper and solid state batteries will change the maths, but EVs are still financially a challenge. That’s why manufacturers continue to sell petrol, hybrid and Diesel versions.
3yr contract is £400+ per month. £100 more than petrol 208. 33% more expensive than a regular car. It will depreciate at twice the rate of a normal car - only the wealthy can afford the huge price premium.
I don't think it will deprecate faster tbh, cos people will still want to get an electric car ready for 2030.. I think it will hold it's values well.. if not hold better then the petrol only slightly it all depends on the EV demand
@@Chappers.Gaming ev batteries die after 12 years turning your car into worthless junk.You may be ok with that. Most people are not. I expect 2o years out of a new car.
@@robertsmuggles6871 you can get them replaced within 7 to 8 years though as it will be covered under warranty.. so if someone did utilize that then the car is still Good.. but by then I'm sure there will be special battery change places that will swap them out for you making the car effectively good again if not better if you put a better battery pack in. I bet in the future you can swap out packs for better range we will never know
I'd appreciate a reviewer who understands the difference between a purpose built electric platform and one of these converted ICE vehicles. The steering and driving position would put me off. Compare this small hatch to a BYD EA1/Dolphin.
Would love to. However they aren’t available in the UK market and are unlikely to be for a couple of years at least. I’ve got an open mind on this though - if BYD can get setup in the UK and import their cars at attractive prices (UK taxes etc may not allow this) then I would certainly be interested in one. For now though these smaller type EV’s make the most sense in the UK.
Oh dear, you decided against getting a Peugeot which have a strong history in making great cars and decided to get a Vauxhall instead. This would have made sense if you'd got something like a BMW etc, but a Vauxhall?
Vauxhall Has gone to be replaced By a Chinese MG 4 😂 I would never buy a BMW even if I had the money I prefer Asian Cars over German Cars any day . @@AbsoluteWoo
electric carseveryones being TOLD to buy..you would think we were being forced..high petrol and diesel costs deliberately to force you but not everyone can afford electric.
@@jimmyh6601 The frunk adds extra practicality. Plus, I would never put my groceries on the cylinder block. The frunk is quite handy for putting your charging cables in, eg, in a Tesla vehicle, you can store your charging cables under the hood in the frunk.
Do agree in principle but this is a supermini sized car for city commuting and small trips - it’s not a Tesla model 3/Y which are far larger and way more expensive. It’s also not a ground up EV so space is compromised to an extent. I think this is a very good first attempt at a small EV for people to ease intoEV ownership. Those that are ‘EV Heads’ will always lust after a Tesla - they are the best and priced accordingly.
As much as i am pleased with the functions of electric cars, i cannot see us owning one for at least a decade, I dont think manufacturers are bothered about cheaper models till either one of 2 things happen, the ban arrives and they need to compete for the fleet hire markets. or the chinese cheaper units from wuling/nio/xpeng gain traction like MG have
@@afcgeo882 yep, TBF because i do such low mileage it would be highly unlikely i would see the return on a £30k car. currently on year 5 with a kia picanto @22k miles £ 165 servicing@10k and not had any major parts replaced. chances are we will replace it in 2 yrs time when it runs out of its 7yr warranty, Who knows maybe they will have an EV equiv by then. if not the MG4 that is on the horizon looks interesting
You need to stop advertising 30k cars as affordable. As automotive journalists, you should know better, especially given the current times. This by no means provides an incentive to go EV, when petrol equivalents are close to 1/2 the price. Not good enough.
They are affordable compared to other models. Petrol equivalents aren’t anywhere close to 1/2 the price and when you consider fuel and maintenance costs, EVs come out in top after just 5 years of ownership.
@@afcgeo882 No one is debating that. But an 'affordable 30k' car cannot be the only family car as they're usually either smaller inside or have limited range or worse off, limited charging speed which is even worse. And I'm saying this as both an EV and petrol car owner.
@@afcgeo882 yes it does. You're buying the car with all its shortcomings that make the difference between usable and useful. I stand my point - 30k is not affordable and at that point, you're getting usable, not useful.
She is definitely not old enough to remember the Peugeot 205 gti! Please don’t say the whole name of the car over and over again. This is not neuro linguistic programming…
I have had the e208 GT line since Nov 2020. The best car I have ever owned. We use it as a family car and we love it 🥰
That's great to hear!! Hope you continue to enjoy it.
@@beepthesheep867 Agreed on many of the above. After seeing this video we are getting the e2008 as well. Specs, range and other details are good but at the end of the day I love driving this car. I also love to see it in my driveway. And the best part is when I take it for a wash, it looks like a supercar when it's freshly washed imo 😊. I work from home the last 2+ years and driving around is my getaway. I live near Reading and love to drive on the B roads around here. We did Whinfell forest last month and it was fine. The four of us and a full boot. We had to stop several times to charge but it was fun. I have thought of getting a bigger car such as the Ioniq 5 or the EV6 but they are very expensive and don't really need all that space. Teslas are a sensible choice but the build quality is shocking. They look very bland as well. Driving an EV is so much better than the petrol version so what I say is go for what you like.
@@beepthesheep867 That’s quite a comment - almost a whole review! Do agree it’s really a second car - we have a family estate as well and there’s no way the e208 is useable for a family, but as a commuter/second car it’s pretty much perfect when you take running costs into account. Would love a large EV to replace our estate but as a decent one is £50K ish (or £60K for a Tesla) that’s not going to happen anytime soon!
We love that car, too 💖
Wow. What a woman ! And in a dress . Wow you look great.
Excellent review. We have had ours for 18 months and covered 16,000 miles now. We love it. We test drive it back to back with the MINI and the E-208 is easily the better all round model. We love the cabin,3D cockpit and the fun drive! Wish it was a bit more efficient especially in the winter. This class of car is where it’s at. Just need better range then no need for these stupidly big and heavy SUV EVs. (MINI E is FWD although it uses the RED BMW i3 running gear. Too much torque steer! Honda E is RWD though..)
Had mine for 2 years and absolutely love it. Nobody that has driven it has had a problem seeing the dials over the steering wheel so I really don't get that at all. You mention that the battery has changed, it hasn't, its still exactly the same. Had an e-corsa as a courtesy car when mine was being serviced and it felt like chalk and cheese. Dull inside and out and the steering wheel felt like it belonged on a bus!
@@Wdf-76 "Battery upgrades" @30 seconds and "battery changes" a few seconds later (and more throughout the video). Heat pump efficiency and longer gearing to suit the motorway is the only difference and at less than 4% improvement in the range I wouldn't bother waiting to be honest.
Test drove one and no problems with the steering wheel (5FT 10) or my wife (5FT 6). On Sport Mode it was plenty pokey enough and the small wheel makes it really easy to flick about. Lovely car (ordered one!).
I have the vision issue in the 308. Not sure if it would be the same in the 208.
@@steveholderness1450 I’m pretty sure she meant the battery system, not the battery itself. There is a big change in the energy management software and in the aircon system as well. She mentioned those.
Back in Januari i did a test drive with the e-208..instant in love with how it drives and looks..directly ordered it 9th of jan..still have to wait until end of August.
Did buy the GT PACK version that comes with everything except wirelles charge and special roof..it's gona be the improved range version.
Can't wait :-)
Some relatives of mine in Switzerland have one. Decent little car and it looks really good.
hello, its 2024 now and i bought an e 208 used with 20tkm 2 month ago. we are quite pleased with this car and charge it with the solar panels on our roof. being a retired car mechanic my only complaint is that there is still no repair manual avaiable for the e version. i have to do some learning here, it is plenty different from the guzzlers i repaired all the years. we also own a citroen ami , just for the cuteness and, while that is on a far lower level of engeneering, i enjoy the ease of maintaining it very much. greetings from portugal
I have had this exact model for 18 months. It's just brilliant! The only down side is the range drop on high speed motorway trips in cold weather, they can be... 'interesting'. That aside it's great car. :)
Test drove one of these a few months ago, nice car, nice interior but no matter how much adjustment couldn't read the speedo because of the steering wheel. Not just me, my wife couldn't see any better. Can't believe someone signed off on this.
@@beepthesheep867 agreed, i’m 6ft1, wife if 5ft6, both of us can adjust it to be fine..
I've set mine very low and it's fine, but I'm 5'8. It seemed weird at first but actually I think this is the superior position as every time I get in a 'normal' car, the higher wheel just seems wrong.
11:16 This is why I love this channel , its cracks me up.
The Jim Carrey scene 🤣🤣🤣😂
Great video, I really like the e208. I just wish it had another 60 miles of range. Good point about the Ora Cat, it's a smart looking car but the boot is tiny and it's an unknown brand, if they started at £20k for the base small battery version, they would be on to something, but £30k is just far too much
Ora Cat looks good but won’t be here until next year now and sounds like it’s going to be as much/more than the e208 with no more range. Shame as it looks really good.
@Billy Heywood. "Unknows Brand"???? Get your automotive history book out and check Peugeot heritage. They have been making cars for over 100 years. "Unknows Brand" indeed??
@@trevorbevan587 As I’m currently driving my 7th Peugeot, I don’t think I’ll be needing that history book. If you read the comment again, I’m talking about Ora, which is an unknown brand in the UK 😉
@@bill_heywood My apology. I misread your comment regarding, "unknown" mistakenly thought you were referring to the Peugeot e-208, which by your own experience, is a historic make. Oro Cat? Never heard of that; as you say, an "unknown" brand.
I wasn't expecting to see Jurgen Klopp in this video 😂
I really want the e-208. Will maybe look at ordering one next year
@@beepthesheep867 The thing is I can't afford the monthly payments right now. I've only had my 206 (my first car) for a little over 5 months.
@@beepthesheep867 decided to wait for the 2023 model which will be receiving a facelift and potentially have more range. You think that’s not a good idea?
@@beepthesheep867 hah yeah of course. I know what you mean. I am not ready to yet place an order anyway, will be around New Year. So that’s why I thought it’s better to wait a few extra months and get the 2023 model..
I have had this car -Gt line in the gorgeous red since Feb and i love love it!the kids love it!i have got many compliments on how cute and lovely the car is.to me peugeot designs one of the best attractive cars out there and they r not mad expensive!the fangs and the claws are just everything for me!and i see the Digital I cockpit just fine so I don't get what everyone is on about.we have been on many trips on the motorway with it and never had any issues with the range,we just plan ahead our journey and map out our charging points.i love my electric car!Well done peugeot !!
Have one on order (GT in Elixir Red). Found it a great car to drive, plenty of performance and enough range for us to only need charging weekly. (Max 150 miles a week). Then of course there are the looks - we love it and the interior too. Don’t need the space as have a family estate so this will be the perfect second car for us. Have to wait for approx. 4 months for delivery though.
4 months? I ordered mine back in April and I have to wait till February '23 to receive it!
@@abrick641 Being delivered in 2 weeks now so looks like I’ve been lucky!
@@ISuperTed I actually called the dealership yesterday asking if they knew a little more about the delivery. They said that they haven't even set a production date.
In what country do you live? And did you order straight from Peugeot?
It’s hard not to love a small Peugeot
True story!
I picked up a 2020 GT model and it's a really nice car. I can definitely say I won't ever buy an ICE car again. The menus on the infotainment have some funky quirks, like inconsistent A/C menu but apart from that there's nothing really wrong with it for commuting and the odd long journey. The Peugeot app could do with a good upgrade. I don't find any issue seeing the cockpit screen and it's much less distracting than some HUDs.
Great to hear you are enjoying it! Sounds like the perfect fit 🙌
@@Electroheads It will do until my EV6 arrives (lead time - "2023")
Looks interesting as Peugeot Ambassador is making comeback in India 🤩
Electric cars are so rewarding to drive.
Picked up our E208GT premium 1st sept 2022 ,so far love it ,wife not so keen as she had to hand over her evoque lol
This remind me of the 407, a beautiful looking car, especially the estate but the interior was cramped for a tall person. I'll stay with my 2008 Peugeot 4007 with its spacious cabin, loads of baggage room, powerful, economic engine and easy to get in and out of, important at my age.
Please do the e2008 as well..got mine on order!
I love the color of this one.
The price, not so much.
I have been admiring this car for some time, it even comes in some fun colours (not many car manufacturers do that these days). Though the new version basically nails what I need, I doubt the price will be something I can afford. The GT version, with added 3phase charger and panoramic roof, with a £5k deposit, 8k annual mileage and over 48 months (about the limit of what you'd want to do on a PCP scheme) puts the monthly's at £474 and that is before, insurance, maintenance and charging...for a supermini; ouch.
Peugeot shoots itself in the foot with pricing.
I'd recommend going for an old model one second hand. If you do less than 40 miles a day I don't think you will notice much difference with the new model.
@Beep the Sheep my maths isn't wrong, I assure you.
To start, my current car a CT200h costs me (amortised over three years) ~£70pcm covering insurance and servicing, home maintenance extends to filling the washer bottle and adjusting the tyre pressures every so often. Fuel, depends on what I am doing, this month it will be £100 or so, but usually it's about £50, it was way six months ago. I don't have a monthly payment. When I did it was only £180pcm.
The three phase charger was on the car not at home, at home I'd have a regular wall box for quick charging. The 3phase adds £500 to the price of the car, to me it's a sensible addition as some public chargers (non rapid chargers) have it. It doesn't really affect the affordability of the car.
@@beepthesheep867 Its not that I hardly use it, it simply appears to run on thin air, the CT is basically a Prius in a posh frock. I have never had less than 50mpg out of it.
And being a Lexus the chances of a major breakdown are slim.
Even before Covid and I was commuting I was only putting £12 - £25 a week in it, or £18 - £37 in todays prices. Working from home means no commute, so I have a couple of short journeys per week (supermarket type trips) and depending on the weather and what I am doing otherwise one or two 70 mile round trips to the airfield on a weekend and then a couple of long road trips (I could do them by air if the weather was guaranteed but it never is).
I really do want an electric car, but I would have to make too many sacrifices elsewhere in my life to make it happen for a newer one. A used 2nd Gen leaf (40kwh) would do me fine for 90% of my journeys, (though I'd still have to find £8-10k on top of mine as a trade in) so I have been looking at that more recently, but that 168 miles is a bit low for the road trip, given that most of that journey is at motorway speeds I'd be stopping to charge quite a few times I'd imagine and in cold weather (say we get an early Easter), it might very well mean having to rent an ICE car.
@@AviatingWithMel I wouldn't bother adding 3 phase, unless you have a lack of DC charging in your area. Most public AC chargers will probably give you well under 22kwh even if they are capable.
I think that it is probably the best small electric car at the moment. However, it is too expensive for me and will wait until 2025 for some cheaper and better cars to arrive.
Had mine 6 month, lovely to drive and range is really good. I am 6ft and yes the top of the steering wheel is exactly in line with the center of the dash display and cant move wheel lower or it be hitting my knees. The display can be be put in a format that moves the speedo to the upper right so can at least see that bit of information. would really been a good idea to have heads-up display as an option.
All in all very happy with the car, however what would have put me off ever buying one, if I had known, is the app is appalling. Its rather important to me to monitor and manage the charging when not at the vehicle. However the app struggles to even connect. Currently although driven the car almost every day it still showing last connection 15 days ago. Also maintenance records not showing and location of the vehicle on the map never correct or up to date.
the Vauxhall/Opel Corsa e ...in beautiful! 😉
I’m waiting for a Korean competitor in this class of car. Nice review!
I wish the e208 was available in my county, It would make a lot of sense for me right now. Maybe one day I'll change my petrol 208 with an electric version. The 208 is definitely a a couples or single person car, and luckily I have no issues with the driving position but I get how it could be frustrating for others. I love my red GT.
I'm a big fan. My parents had these however i think it needs bigger screen and tablet like screens too besides that Dashboard is 10/10 also electroheads have to take the time to turn in the lights and show us the beauty of it.
Got mine last year absolutely love it, however I had some one go into the side of me a month ago and It’s still in the body shop. I’m missing it 😢
What I don't like about these many reviewers is that they simply get the top of the range model and review that. In fact, I drive an Allure e208 with the optional 10" screen and although the grille has the same colour tones as the car, the lion is a single colour. Not all models are the same and it seems that either in the UK everyone gets the GT or GT Line or Premium or else these reviewers are simply doing marketing for the manufacturer.
imma wait for the new Renault 5, base model rumored at under £19k with alloys and 50kw CCS (just waiting for the Renaultvolution event to merge all factories and make production so much cheaper & efficient)
I'm looking forward to the Ora punk cat! ;-)
Gorgeous car. Matches your eyes.
I'm a LIFETIME lover of Peugeots., they've ALWAYS made brilliant car's. The older "French made" Cars are still better tho.....
Also a thought about motorway driving reducing range for electric cars. The weight may be too great to have a proper gearbox between the electric motor and the wheels, but what about an overdrive? A very small and relatively light addition that could be engaged while on the motorway and that will extend the range quite a bit. With modern materials, it should weigh about 20lb or 9Kg and could make the motor work 10%, 20%, 30% less at motorway speeds.
Modern gear boxes all already have overdrive ratios.
@@afcgeo882 Not EVs. The techies still think it is better to just put a bigger electric motor, and hang the weight.
@@jumpferjoy1st Electric motors weigh almost nothing. Try again.
@@jumpferjoy1st Electric motors weigh almost nothing and can spin faster than any fear box, which is why I said, “ratios” and not “gears”. Try again. This time study a bit of engineering.
@@afcgeo882 Can you re-read the comments, I think you have been confused by your own comments. The Tesla Model S 85/P85 has two motors at 90lbs each. So that is 180lbs or 81Kg. This is the size of an average sized person. Is that truly, almost nothing? I really question your level of sarcasm as you never know who you are talking to.
As to the original subject, with electric motors running at motorway speeds draining the battery faster, how do YOU think this can be overcome?
Regarding the bad potholes/speedbumps experience, I've never experienced a car that rides them better, so I don't know where she got that from.
Waiting for the cost of the Renault 5 electric
Apart from the usual range concerns a £30,000 price tag is the biggest drawback which is around £10,000 more than the petrol models.
I wouldn't exactly call £30,000 affordable, for that same money you can get many other new ICE cars that are in a class above for less than that such as the VW Golf or even things like an S line Audi A3. Its also way to close to things like the VW ID3 which again is a bigger car in the next class up. Looks to be a good car but it needs to be £5000 cheaper for it to be a solid "affordable" option in my opinion
I'm after an MGZS '22 model year but only in a couple of years on the used market. Just a bit bigger boot space that I need. 👍 Nice review, thanks. 😊
Will it be available in the U.S.?
How does it handle very steep inclines (from a dead stop)? I live in a mountainous area and have to use 1st gear to get up some of these hills in a gas car.
All ev cars have max power at start and lower speeds and very good torque, for just this issue, so it will be much better on hills where an ice car will struggle, especially if you have to use gears.
e208 (and most evs if not all) has max torque (not power) from 0 rpm and then drops while the rpm increase (power picks up then).
So, you can climb any hill with unparalleled ease. You can even stop at 25degrees incline and start slowly with 2km/h in reverse.
I do the last part every day while exiting our garage :D
Are these available in the US
I'm waiting for an electric car that I can justify the price tag on lol.
Nothing yet..
So I keep driving my diesel when I have to and ride my ebikes whenever I can instead.
and how exactly is 30k affordable
My £100 banger with 207k on clock does 60mpg.... Drives like new... Only had it 7 yrs so very good vfm.... As to a car for £30k.... My house did not cost that much.... No way.
I’d get one, Just wish it had decent one pedal driving
I like the Peugeot e208 but for the same money, there's the VW ID.3, which has more space, more range and is designed as an EV, not derived from an ICE car.
Nice looking car. Not sure about those wheel arches though.
I was waiting for the microlino however that price has rises from som £12k to now £20k. Bring me a Dacia Spring and I am ready to buy however, I assume they will rise from £14k to some £20k. We do seem to have an accounting issue in setting future customer expectations 😂😂
I don't get it. My charging cable fits under the false floor of the boot quite snuggly without having to remove the tyre repair kit stuff (and without the charging cable bag obviously).
Ora Cat really screwed up here. They could have easily dominated the market in size and range and price but decided to be greedy. Releasing a car in standard range when they have a long range one that sells cheaper than the MG ZS long range abroad, and then charging £30500 for it after plug in car grant as a marketing strategy, which is useless now the grant doesn't exist anymore! So you're looking at a standard range Ora cat for £32000 now! Stupid and greedy sales strategy from Ora Cat!
R2D888, I agree with you. I don't think that it is very practical either. The boot isn't that big and there isn't a rear window wash/wiper which is pretty much essential here. I think that the BYD Dolphin will be the same.
No one wants an electric car in my area, because no one is able to park in front of their house, and that's when you get a parking space.
The e208 is a decent looking car, but the manufacturers keep at the silly prices. Looking on the Peugeot site at the PCP, they want a whopping £8,712 deposit and then £279 for a four year, 6k miles/year deal. This is for the cheapest Active Premium model with no options. For the basic petrol 1.2 Puretech 75 S&S, the deal is £4,114 deposit and then £209 for a four year, 6k miles/year deal.
So the big issue remains that manufacturers are loading up the cars with chintzy bling and then asking top dollar for it. I bet the lower spec e208 didn't sell as it was cheaped out spec wise and was offered at not much less than the Active Premium. Lets be honest, if they did a proper job, they could be offering a basic e208 at £25k, which at five thousand more than the petrol makes a great deal of rational sense. Ten thousand more as it is at the moment with cheap bling added, I don't think so.
I have to agree with this even though I have one on order. The only reason I can afford one is it’s a company scheme and basically I am leasing it for 3 years at a substantially lower monthly payment than I would elsewhere and everything is included (even tyres). They at too expensive for the vast majority of private buyers currently - this has to change and I believe it will but not for a few years.
@@ISuperTed I don't think it will change until 10-15 years cos we can still buy brand new petrol cars until 2030.. and even then up to that point they will want top dolly and when we are forced to buy an new car (electric) after 2030 they will keep price up to substin profet.. but I think by 2035 the price will definitely decrease maybe as by then people will start to lower price to get the deals done. Then it will start falling that plus new technology by then..
Another update next year..more HP and more range, up to 248 miles and a new facelift..not sure when order dates open for this newer model.
I've got to say, you keep quoting figures for a car's battery and say it powers the car to X power.
This confuses an already confused public.
The battery stores energy (kWh).
The electric motor delivers the power (kW) or (PS) and Torque (Nm).
The presenter sums up the slightly scary aspect of this car, @ 7:11, when she says that fiddling with the infotainment screen "can be a little awkward when driving".
I've never worked out how these screens can actually be legal, given they are so distracting.
We bang on about simplified screens and more importantly...BUTTONS! Fortunately the e-208 does have the keys in the middle of the centre console - but overall designers do need to give us physical buttons/dials etc to make things easier.
@@Electroheads If not buttons then at least a single logical layout. The thing about buttons that makes them easy isn’t their tactile feel, but rather the universal ease of use. You may not remember cars of the 1980s or 90s that I learned to drive on (or Volvos of the 2000s), but having many oddly laid out buttons is just as complicated. What’s packing is basic UX. Simplification of use is as important as definition.
Large screens should be for large touch areas, not more tiny touch areas. The trick for our brains is “choices”. The fewer the options we have have, the easier. So… an option of two or three large touch buttons should be standard. Burying controls is fine as long as it stays within that structure.
Unfortunately, car critics have always complained that low use functions were being buried within layers of screens, so companies now put 20 touch buttons on screens, which is actually worse. Finally, why not mirror the infotainment screens in the digital readouts and shy not use paddles or steering wheel buttons to select?
Second bestselling EV in Europe in April and May. First?? FIAT e-500, another STLA darling
They're getting it right!
@@Electroheads ;) Not yet. 2023 update of range. Great reviews, thx.
The Mini electric is front wheel drive, not rear.
It might be nice, and drives nice, BUT I’ve driven a year old e-2008 for work recently and it drank battery incredibly fast. At 70mph on motorway it drank 101 miles of battery in 54 miles………..it was lovely to drive and had a lovely feel with the materials, but that electric battery isn’t useable as your only car……..
EVs generally fail at motorway speeds. They’re heavy and there’s no regen braking going on. This is why Peugeot upgraded the electric drive system for 2023, specifically to improve at motorway speeds.
This is why I'm Abit off put by getting one..
The rear passenger space is too small and it's interior is style over substance.
👍️ fot Tish 😜
Bless you, Tish... you do make me giggle...!
As lovely as the e-208 looks, I think I'd rather have a REAR-WHEEL-DRIVE Mini Electric... if ever they decide to make one, that is...!! 🤣
Tish… I wonder… do any EV owners actually stow their cables away into the boot? Especially with the lower range (sub-200mile) ones? With how often you end up charging? I have way too many things in my boot to ever bother lifting the lid.
Never assume it’s three fingers though… always ask first.
The cable bag can get in the way, even if you just put a couple of bags in the boot. You can just stash the cable in the back seat if you don't have passengers. For the daily commute you could easily leave it at home.
That steering wheel !!!. Can't see the dials so it's a no from me however good a car is it's pointless if the driving position is flawed
Driven one?
@@steveholderness1450 Yep test drove one . Brought a whole new meaning to bobbing and weaving . Too distracting for me
Why do car reviewers go on about having a place to store charging cables in the car? I hardly ever take mine out with me - no need
I was wondering about that… you just leave them at home? How much do you drive in a day on average?
@@afcgeo882 Over the last 2 years, total 17,000 miles. Always charge at home, or on a rapid charger if on a long trip (and they have their own, chunky cables). In that time, I have slow charged away from home once, at a holiday let - used my brother in law's 3 pin plug cable, as I had not planned to need to charge there. I figure there's no need to carry the extra weight around....
Why do we never hear about the biggest ev manufacturer in the world byd and if they are coming to uk
Too small for me. If the Megane E-Tech doesn't shape up well in terms of price, availability and range, then I'm staying a PHEV guy.
Same.
I’d rather just pay the bit extra on the ID 3 considering Volkswagens get free charging at Tesco
They are not just free for VW……Any EV can use their destination chargers for free while they shop I believe.
@@thelaserhive3368 not completely. Some offer free charging for 7kw and 22kw AC but often the CCS 50kw is chargeable. Tesco's podpoint chargers were installed in partnership with VW so they may get free charging at all of them
Not true - Free for fast chargers (for any EV) and paid for Rapid chargers (for all EVs)
@@steveholderness1450 What I thought. Thanks for confirming
Just remember to download the Pod point app and register wit them (it's free). As mentioned the Tesco 7kw are free to everyone and the apps map will confirm that. However, even on the free chargers if you plug in and don't activate it they will turn off after 15 minutes. Some places they have managed to turn off that feature and you may get away with it without the app. But to be on the safe side, so you don't come back to an uncharged car, get the app and confirm the charge when you plug in. Oh and ALWAYS unplug from the car first then the charger when leaving. Otherwise if you tug your cable at the charge point first you could end up breaking the lock shut in there, and in turn trapping your cable!
All electric cars are a backward step. We are used to going 600 miles plus between fuel stops with old as the hills diesel cars. ' Come on in sir, I am selling this electric model for £10'000 more than you are used to paying, with a range of a third of what you are used to and it decreases the older the car gets ? ' Sounds like a great bargain lol ?
Very disappointing about the Ora Cat, can't hold out on waiting on manufacturers promises for tomorrow
The mini electric is front wheel drive not rear
It is tiny in the back and range is terrible in winter. Similar to the corsa e
£30k is not affordable for most people! Plus insurance/ maintenance. Buy a small 2-3 year old petrol/ hybrid for now and see how the EV market pans out before committing yourself. There will be many changes to EV's in the next few years.
And then the UK Gov go and terminate the Plug-In grant 🙄
Love to own a electric car and love the 208 but they are so overpriced, I can wait till I don’t have a choice…
We have been driving an EV for over a year now. I cant imagine why they still make ICE(gas) cars. Here in America fuel prices are anywhere from $4.50 to $7.00 per gallon. For us that's very expensive. Cost me $80 to top off the Range Rover! To top off our EV it cost us charging at home $ 3.89 . At the superchargers it's around $9.00. That's around 290 to 310 miles depending on the driving conditions. Diesel fuel is needed due to the large loads and distances trucks drive. And for heavy equipment and farms equipment. But gasoline doesn't make much sense anymore. Thanks, from across the pond.
Here in the UK it's now costing over £80 to fill up a little 1.4ltr Toyota with Diesel. or £2 plus a Ltr 😭. Unfortunately EV,s are way over my max budget of £5K. O well maybe in 2030 when the second hand price's drop to below 5K. If I'm still here that is.😉😊
Unbelievably stupid steering wheel would put me off. Who signed this off, also did they ever test this with real people?
These wheels have been in Peugeots for a while, and many people enjoy them
It’s not as bad as most people think. I have one on order and drove it for 30 minutes on a test drive. I’m 5 foot 10 (178cm) and it was fine for me - I could see over the wheel and it was quite comfortable, same for my wife who’s 5 foot 6. Definitely needs to be checked before buying though.
Had one for 2 years and the steering wheel position is superb.. I'm 6ft and my wife is 5ft and neither have a problem with it. Same in my wife's Peugeot 2008.
I prefer this to the Corsa
Affordable 😂😂😂😂
When they come down to about £15k or under £250 per month with minimal deposit on PCP then they might be affordable. But currently there is no way I’d swap my car to something like this. It’ll take years to make enough savings to warrant the change.
And honestly. The motorway journey range is still an issue. I do a 300+ mile journey every 3 months and I don’t want to extend my journey with 2 charges along the way. And public charging is expensive too. So it really isn’t as affordable as they think.
I hate how people now claim 30-40k cars as adorable.. It's not... I had a look minimal dipost of say £500 as most people can't thrown Money in.. it's still 530 per month.. Even if they go well ,28k is affordable 15-20k is definitely affordable for the masses or at least 60% of households that are not lucky to be earning 25k Plus wages
I have one and it has been very cheap to run, as I have a wall charger on the drive. With an EV tariff for 4 hours of 5p per Kw you can fill the battery for £2.50. Range in winter is a bit low but motorway hops of 120 miles with half hour charge stops are ok. Range in summer is 200 miles. Only gone wrong once in two years, the 12 volt battery replaced. On PCP lease, the depreciation in two years is almost zero so cost of ownership is low. I drove diesels for 20 years, they cost me far more.
@@Chappers.Gaming They do that to entice people into switching to EVs. The full phrase should be 'they are affordable (for an EV, that currently costs 1.5x than their ICE counterpart in the lower end of the spectrum)'.
Car makers are really out of touch with their audiences if they think people would drop their perfectly working ICEs to get less range for even more money! They need to entice customers with something more substantial than the increased perceived performance of EVs vs ICEs at similar specs.
Until EVs dont penetrate sub 15K USD market, they will be a pipe dream for 90% of the world.
Lastly, one big item not emphasized enough that is important for most people in thirld world countries with shitty roads, in this review it is mentioned that you need to 'treat it more gentle' over botched roads. This immediately makes it a no-go for people driving in areas with lack of road maitenance like my country.
I see a bit of 504 and 505 in the front styling, that’s not a bad thing!
Four candles
Steering wheel blocks the dash board...oh dear!
It's not a terribly ugly car, but can't say I find it attractive - looks like a 306 that's eaten all the pies, then had a nose and bum job :-) Expensive compared with ICE, but competitive for an EV. Range is still too short to be a main car..... It's OK day to day, but not realistic for regular long trips to rural locations (yet)
30k is way to much for a tiny car. range is also poor 180 on the uk i bet with our weather
I've had nothing but trouble with mine. I hate it. And the Android Auto implementation is woeful.
I think they won't make cheap electric cars.
If they can build them for $20K and sell them for $30K, there's a $10K profit.
However, if the car costs them $8K, they can't sell it for more than $10K. A $2K profit.
A 25% profit margin would be a dream! Right now EVs sell at a LOSS! It’s a small net loss versus a decade ago when the Tesla Y cake out, but still a loss. They’re hoping that the R&D will become cheaper and solid state batteries will change the maths, but EVs are still financially a challenge. That’s why manufacturers continue to sell petrol, hybrid and Diesel versions.
@@afcgeo882 Again, didn't ask you. get lost comment troll.
3yr contract is £400+ per month. £100 more than petrol 208. 33% more expensive than a regular car. It will depreciate at twice the rate of a normal car - only the wealthy can afford the huge price premium.
I don't think it will deprecate faster tbh, cos people will still want to get an electric car ready for 2030.. I think it will hold it's values well.. if not hold better then the petrol only slightly it all depends on the EV demand
@@Chappers.Gaming ev batteries die after 12 years turning your car into worthless junk.You may be ok with that. Most people are not. I expect 2o years out of a new car.
@@robertsmuggles6871 you can get them replaced within 7 to 8 years though as it will be covered under warranty.. so if someone did utilize that then the car is still Good.. but by then I'm sure there will be special battery change places that will swap them out for you making the car effectively good again if not better if you put a better battery pack in. I bet in the future you can swap out packs for better range we will never know
your parents named you Tish ?
I just hate EV cars that have the middle section like a petrol car where great stick is.
I'd appreciate a reviewer who understands the difference between a purpose built electric platform and one of these converted ICE vehicles. The steering and driving position would put me off. Compare this small hatch to a BYD EA1/Dolphin.
Would love to. However they aren’t available in the UK market and are unlikely to be for a couple of years at least. I’ve got an open mind on this though - if BYD can get setup in the UK and import their cars at attractive prices (UK taxes etc may not allow this) then I would certainly be interested in one. For now though these smaller type EV’s make the most sense in the UK.
I could never buy a Peugeot badged car so I have the Corsa e and find it a very good car .
Oh dear, you decided against getting a Peugeot which have a strong history in making great cars and decided to get a Vauxhall instead. This would have made sense if you'd got something like a BMW etc, but a Vauxhall?
Vauxhall Has gone to be replaced By a Chinese MG 4 😂 I would never buy a BMW even if I had the money I prefer Asian Cars over German Cars any day . @@AbsoluteWoo
electric carseveryones being TOLD to buy..you would think we were being forced..high petrol and diesel costs deliberately to force you but not everyone can afford electric.
Not a fan of electric vehicles without frunks.
However did you ever cope with conventional cars? Did you find yourself feeling the need to put your groceries on the cylinder block?😜
@@jimmyh6601 The frunk adds extra practicality. Plus, I would never put my groceries on the cylinder block.
The frunk is quite handy for putting your charging cables in, eg, in a Tesla vehicle, you can store your charging cables under the hood in the frunk.
Do agree in principle but this is a supermini sized car for city commuting and small trips - it’s not a Tesla model 3/Y which are far larger and way more expensive. It’s also not a ground up EV so space is compromised to an extent. I think this is a very good first attempt at a small EV for people to ease intoEV ownership. Those that are ‘EV Heads’ will always lust after a Tesla - they are the best and priced accordingly.
@@ISuperTed And because this is based on an internal combustion engine vehicle, I understand why they didn’t include the frunk.
i actually see your beauty not that peace of metal
I have promised myself never to buy a French car again, does it apply to electric? Too soon to know I guess.
Not for me too many negatives
As much as i am pleased with the functions of electric cars, i cannot see us owning one for at least a decade, I dont think manufacturers are bothered about cheaper models till either one of 2 things happen, the ban arrives and they need to compete for the fleet hire markets. or the chinese cheaper units from wuling/nio/xpeng gain traction like MG have
Have you considered fuel and maintenance costs into the price?
@@afcgeo882 yep, TBF because i do such low mileage it would be highly unlikely i would see the return on a £30k car. currently on year 5 with a kia picanto @22k miles £ 165 servicing@10k and not had any major parts replaced. chances are we will replace it in 2 yrs time when it runs out of its 7yr warranty,
Who knows maybe they will have an EV equiv by then. if not the MG4 that is on the horizon looks interesting
You need to stop advertising 30k cars as affordable. As automotive journalists, you should know better, especially given the current times. This by no means provides an incentive to go EV, when petrol equivalents are close to 1/2 the price. Not good enough.
They are affordable compared to other models. Petrol equivalents aren’t anywhere close to 1/2 the price and when you consider fuel and maintenance costs, EVs come out in top after just 5 years of ownership.
@@afcgeo882 No one is debating that. But an 'affordable 30k' car cannot be the only family car as they're usually either smaller inside or have limited range or worse off, limited charging speed which is even worse.
And I'm saying this as both an EV and petrol car owner.
@@ytdood You were talking about £30k being an affordable price point for a car. That has NOTHING to do with the car’s layout, charging speed or range.
@@afcgeo882 yes it does. You're buying the car with all its shortcomings that make the difference between usable and useful.
I stand my point - 30k is not affordable and at that point, you're getting usable, not useful.
@@ytdood Again, you were talking about £30k as a price point for ANY car. You have NO point, so just sit down.
Until they are sub 20,000 I’m seriously not interested.
She is definitely not old enough to remember the Peugeot 205 gti! Please don’t say the whole name of the car over and over again. This is not neuro linguistic programming…
I'm waiting for the latest Tish👰♂️🤵♂️💏
Affordable?! Yeah...