I have been struggling with the lethal vs non lethal when being out camping alone. I have a Walther ppq that shoots rubber/steel and nylon .43 balls. I also have rifle that is always in my truck. Main concern is asleep at night when in my rtt. Pepper spray in an enclosed space wont work well at all. Sad that this is something people have to consider nowadays when trying to enjoy themselves and go on adventures.
It’s a sad state of affairs when we all understand the potential hazards that 4-legged animals and slithering ones can present, but now we have a very real threat coming from 2-legged animals.
I think the topic of safety is a very important one.. Along with weapons, be it this device, a rock, or slingshot, or a 45, there also implied LIABILITY . that goes along with it that needs to be understood.. sorry, my 2 cents..maybe a good campground discussion , if we have any defense attorneys in the group.. cheers, thanks for the review..
I like the concept of the first shot punctures the co2 cartridge. I assume that much like fire extinguishers, once partially used, toss it and replace with a fresh co2 cartridge? I have had c02 BB rifles in the past, in colder weather it was not reliable for many shots at all before the cartridge would fail - does this have the same characteristics ? (below 32f) Are there age restrictions for this? Is a purchase permit required in MI ? Looks promising for those that choose the non-CPL route
Nice that they offer a biodegradable training round. As with any firearm practice, practice, practice. Not sure if I would choose this for 4 legged threats vs bear spray as accuracy under duress is challenging.
I have but one question…… do you really want to bring a toy to a gun fight when your life or a family members life is on the line???? I’m Retired Sheriff K9 Sgt, SWAT sniper and I sure won’t be trusting a toy.!!!!!!
Taking into consideration some peoples hesitancy around firearms, and the legality of being able to carry in all 50 states I can see this a valid option for some.
I love a non-lethal option. Some people will never feel comfortable with fire arms. However, there are things to consider, like would there be time to get another weapon in play if this wasn't effective?
Wasp spray is always an option for the house. It has a long range and placed at the main doors, no one will think twice about it sitting there. Or Pepper spray but it affects people differently and some people it has little to know affect on them. Eyes are the best place aim at, to blind them so you can get away and call for help. or a tactical advantage to use other weapons if needed.
Yeah, I would never shoot something at someone I thought could kill them. It just wouldn't happen. The internal philosophical discussion would go on far too long to save anyone's life. The Byrna makes far more sense for me. I have been intrigued by them ever since I heard about them. Thanks for doing a review.
I'm glad you thought this through for yourself, Cheryl. It was a discussion my wife and I had many years ago. It is better to have *any* tool for defense than no tool. Stay safe!
There are violent crimes against innocent people committed in every country in the world. In the U.S., we have the right to be prepared and to defend ourselves.
I have to agree with OGGenx65 here. This is not an American problem; it is a human problem. Wherever there are humans some will be predators. And predators prefer to prey on the weak. Don't be weak.
My concern is that pulling out something like this could escalate the situation. What if the other guy has a lethal weapon?
Then you die because you didn't have a real weapon...
I have been struggling with the lethal vs non lethal when being out camping alone. I have a Walther ppq that shoots rubber/steel and nylon .43 balls. I also have rifle that is always in my truck. Main concern is asleep at night when in my rtt. Pepper spray in an enclosed space wont work well at all. Sad that this is something people have to consider nowadays when trying to enjoy themselves and go on adventures.
thanks for sharing
It’s a sad state of affairs when we all understand the potential hazards that 4-legged animals and slithering ones can present, but now we have a very real threat coming from 2-legged animals.
I don't quite understand why this is better than a good Pepper spray. With a spray it creates a small Cloud so you don't have to be super accurate.
Absolutely love mine
Great review guys!!! Looking forward to the new t.v. review!!!
I appreciate your review of this. I’ve been considering getting one since I heard Sean Hannity talk about them. Thank you for an objective review.
I think the topic of safety is a very important one.. Along with weapons, be it this device, a rock, or slingshot, or a 45, there also implied LIABILITY . that goes along with it that needs to be understood.. sorry, my 2 cents..maybe a good campground discussion , if we have any defense attorneys in the group.. cheers, thanks for the review..
They're not coming with less lethal just saying brother...
I like the concept of the first shot punctures the co2 cartridge. I assume that much like fire extinguishers, once partially used, toss it and replace with a fresh co2 cartridge? I have had c02 BB rifles in the past, in colder weather it was not reliable for many shots at all before the cartridge would fail - does this have the same characteristics ? (below 32f) Are there age restrictions for this? Is a purchase permit required in MI ? Looks promising for those that choose the non-CPL route
Nice that they offer a biodegradable training round. As with any firearm practice, practice, practice.
Not sure if I would choose this for 4 legged threats vs bear spray as accuracy under duress is challenging.
I have but one question…… do you really want to bring a toy to a gun fight when your life or a family members life is on the line???? I’m Retired Sheriff K9 Sgt, SWAT sniper and I sure won’t be trusting a toy.!!!!!!
Taking into consideration some peoples hesitancy around firearms, and the legality of being able to carry in all 50 states I can see this a valid option for some.
@@Cbockhoffyes Sir, you have a valid point.
As an officer you had choices before using lethal force- this is that.
@@richmilligan5881not much of a choice if that’s all you have. Seems they are touting that as ALL you need and that is BS
I love a non-lethal option. Some people will never feel comfortable with fire arms. However, there are things to consider, like would there be time to get another weapon in play if this wasn't effective?
Absolutely not trash it’s a toy that will get you killed
Wasp spray is always an option for the house. It has a long range and placed at the main doors, no one will think twice about it sitting there. Or Pepper spray but it affects people differently and some people it has little to know affect on them. Eyes are the best place aim at, to blind them so you can get away and call for help. or a tactical advantage to use other weapons if needed.
Yeah, I would never shoot something at someone I thought could kill them. It just wouldn't happen. The internal philosophical discussion would go on far too long to save anyone's life. The Byrna makes far more sense for me. I have been intrigued by them ever since I heard about them. Thanks for doing a review.
I'm glad you thought this through for yourself, Cheryl. It was a discussion my wife and I had many years ago.
It is better to have *any* tool for defense than no tool.
Stay safe!
"Less lethal" NOT "Non lethal"
Will stick with my handguns. PNW can still carry alot of places up here. For now.
Wow, such an American problem, so very sad that this is a thing there.
There are violent crimes against innocent people committed in every country in the world. In the U.S., we have the right to be prepared and to defend ourselves.
I have to agree with OGGenx65 here. This is not an American problem; it is a human problem. Wherever there are humans some will be predators. And predators prefer to prey on the weak. Don't be weak.