Rasp Battle: Shinto Rasp vs. Microplane Rasp
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Comparing a Shinto rasp and a Microplane rasp.
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One thing about the Shinto rasp is that they last forever. I have had mine for about 25 years and use it a lot. Not many cutting tools of any kind will last that long!
Good point about the longevity. That's incredible! What kind of projects are you using the Shinto rasp on?
I made small boats for about 10 years and am changing over to musical instruments. Along the way... lots of variety. By no means everything, but I have listed some things on OpenWoodShop.com
I have a Shinto rasp, a coarse traditional rasp, round on one side flat on the other, and several inexpensive orange handled rasps that came in a set. The set has a half round, flat and rat tailed rasps. I use them all. I end up cycling between them as the surface shape changes between the heel and headstock. The variety of handles and the grip required to use them helps keep carpal tunnel irritation away.
Good idea. I try to switch up which tools I use too. The carving of the instrument necks is the most physically strenuous part of the build process for me.
Thanks for the shout out Daniel. That was very nice of you. As much as I miss the cigar box guitar... I can't wait to give it away.
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I haven't used a Microplane rasp yet. I do love my Shinto though. I've used it for making the neck on a CBG, spoon/scoop handles, radiused edges, and knocking the corner off the frame a hanging shelf for the garage. I didn't want to bust my head open on the corner.
I have also used the Shinto to radius the corners of boards for a shelf I made for the bedroom. It was so much easier to put the six shelves together and round the corners over instead of having to deal with a band saw, jigsaw, router, etc... After using the fine side for my final passes, it almost didn't need sanding.
I'm excited to use the shinto rasp. I love using a hand tool when I can. I try to avoid using the router when possible. It's far too messy.
Apparently MicroPlane has decided to cater to the culinary crowd (pun intended) and leave woodworkers out in the cold. I'd be willing to bet it's because the material used to make a cheese grater is way cheaper than the material needed for a wood rasp (and they both cost about the same).
And no, they are not interchangeable. I used one of my MicroPlane graters for woodworking and it was pretty much toast after minimal rasping. Although now my grated parmesan does have a nice piney taste to it!
I use a y handled vegetable peeler to carve necks. The best one is the Thai made kiwi brand though Ikea have a good one too.
I remember watching your vegetable peeler as a spokeshave video. That was so cool.
For the past 2 years I've been using a large bastard file/rasp that I found in a tool box I inherited from my father-in-law for my neck carving. One side is rough (very rough) and the other side is finer (in fact I use the fine side to level some saw cuts and, it's heavy and works almost like a leveling plane). A round rasp is invaluable for carving heels and curved wings on the headstock
Awesome. That’s for sharing your process. 😊
Hi, my Shinto Rasp has a removable forward handle. I have a feeling you may have shaved a little more off of those samples had you been using a Shinto with the second handle on it. Just something to keep in mind for those interested in the Shinto. The forward handle removes easily for tight spaces and allows you to switch sides from coarse to fine easily. Cheers.
I bet the forward handle would help a lot to bear down on the rasp. I was able to hold the end, but it was not as easy or comfortable as a dedicated handle would be.
I really expected the shinto to outrasp the microplane. A farriers file also removes a lot of material and makes a great job of the toenails!
(Ha I just saw the comment below - yeah I got one for €15/$20 from a farm suppliers here in Ireland, I'm sure you can get similar there. It has a rough and a smooth side, depending on how bad your toenails are😂)
Ok. Now I need to try out a farrier file too. I actually live in the Western United States, so there are a few ranch and farmer supply stores around.
I'm of the opinion that most types have their best uses and that it's very nice to have an assortment.
What’s your favorite woodworking rasp?
@@CircuitsAndStrings I have one that my grandfather gave me when I was 5 so that wouldn't be a fair contest. For carving, I have a set of old German riffler rasps that I use all the time. I like the Shinto for larger projects and tend to alternate between it and a Surform. I do think that the Surform leaves a cleaner finish than the Shinto (since I use other tools for finishing, the finish left by a rasp is only sometimes important.) . My "favorite" at the moment is going to depend a lot on what I'm doing and what I'm trying to achieve.
Something I've discovered is that the files at Harbor Freight are actually decent, at least for woodworking. I haven't tested them on metal. I have several files I use for metal and tend to keep them separate, so metal filings don't get accidentally embedded in my wood projects.
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My favorite for rapid stock removal is a farriers hoof rasp Coarse rasp on one side and a single cut file with about 1/16" tooth spacing on the other ...
mine is a Heller Legend Excel. Having a good range for different circumstances is essential
The rasp I used in the past was not as good as either of the two demonstrated. Both were impressive! I currently use a 5/8” roundover router bit and sandpaper which give me very consistent results.
Great testing video! I am honestly shocked that the Microplane won, i was expecting the Shinto rasp to be more effective. When are you planning on doing the contest for the 3D printed travel uke? Have i missed the announcement of the winner?
The Microplane was more effective at removing material, but I am still excited to use the Shinto rasp more. It will get a lot of use in my shop, and should last forever.
I notified the winner of the 3D printed ukulele after I did the random drawing. I usually just respond to the winning comment. I don't generally do a second video announcing the winner.
@@CircuitsAndStrings oh ok, thanks for the update!
Love my new Shinto but there has always been something satisfying about the MicroPlane. Alas, I can't find replacement blades or even whole units of the round one, and the flat I've found are marketed for zesting (not sure if they're the same but with different label).
Thanks for the comparison! Both will have their use for necks, but will want that curved MP for transitions and volutes at the headstock or for carved PRS-style cutaways on bodies.
It is strange. I wonder if Microplane has stopped making woodworking rasps. They seem to be rare these days.
@@CircuitsAndStrings Got curious and contacted their FB account. Apparently Covid related supply chain issues, but no sense of when the woodworking rasps might return. Just "hopefully some day".
I hope they bring them back. 🤞
@@gregdpettit Although it does seem that the availability of their food prep items weren't effected by Covid. I'm sure there's a conspiracy here somewhere.
Thanks for the shout-out about the giveaway! Wow! The micro plane really cuts through wood! I have heard that some folks use ferrier’s (horse shoer’s) rasps to carve necks. I have watched the ferrier trim my horse’s hooves and his rasp makes short work of hard hooves.
Those horse shoeing rasp are huge. Now I want to try one of those too. As I was watching a video about horses shoes I realized that those rasps are the world’s largest nail files. :)
Best of luck with your giveaway. 👍
The longevity on the micro plane is garbage. I bought one for bow making and working with Osage dulled it out after a couple weeks. The shinto rasp, I still have and is going strong after 3 years.
I mostly use the Shinto rasp before sandpaper. It is good for smoothing. The microplane is so much better at removing material. I have used that exact microplane in the video for years on dozens of hardwood instrument necks and it is still very effective and sharp.
I also like the different “grits” on the two sides of the Shinto.
I vote shinto
The shinto looks like a lattice of hacksaw blades😀 cool video 👍. The MP looks like you’ll go through plenty of blades 🤔
I had used the microplane dozens of times before making the video. It actually stays sharp for a long time.
Interesting. Got my Shinto a couple years ago and love it but that Microplane looks pretty impressive. What kind of surface does it leave?
I used the coarse microplane for this test, but there is also a fine microplane. Even with the coarse one the surface is fairly smooth. I doesn’t take much sanding to get the wood nice and smooth.
Shinto makes a raised handle and end handle version that is much better than that base cheaper model Shinto you have there it blows everything else away check it out you would love it
I’ll have to try one of those. Thanks for the tip.
3:42 is the same scraper that is used to scrape off in the kitchen cheese?
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Good eye. Microplane makes a few different rasps. Some for food and some for wood. 😀
I have a Shinto Rasp. The teeth seem almost dulled already? As far as I can tell I got an official one. It's also a bit flexible side to side. I don't hate it, but I might get a microplane down the line.
Maybe you got a bad one? Mine is still sharp and has no play whatsoever.
I'm no expert on Shinto rasps, but mine seems solid.
Where can one buy a curved microplane?
They seem to be sold out on a lot of websites. I would keep an eye on the microplane website for them to come back in stock.
www.microplane.com/microplane-8-snap-in-round-replacement-blade-coarse