They Claimed Bastion and Sombra Are "Instant Win" | Overwatch 2 Spectating

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  • @luigiclone0286
    @luigiclone0286 День тому +211

    A sombra on our current economy is hardly an instant win button.

    • @atinygoose6199
      @atinygoose6199 День тому +25

      Totally is. Just for the wrong team.

    • @AC_Milan1899
      @AC_Milan1899 День тому

      ​@@atinygoose6199lol

    • @luigiclone0286
      @luigiclone0286 День тому +1

      @@atinygoose6199 oh yeah, true

    • @wnyduchess
      @wnyduchess День тому

      A Sombra in the previous economy wasn't even an instant win button

    • @trey3158
      @trey3158 День тому

      Pre-nerf Sombra the worst players would just be dead weight never interacting, now if you don't know her kit you just die.

  • @DodgeThatAttack
    @DodgeThatAttack День тому +169

    I love how their tank definitely said sombra/bastion is free win because they were malding from getting wrecked the previous game

    • @AWeirdLizard
      @AWeirdLizard День тому +12

      "Bastion and Sombra are OP and free wins because they always beat me" ~That guy probably

    • @turkeyboiiiiiiiiiiiii3695
      @turkeyboiiiiiiiiiiiii3695 День тому +4

      ​@@AWeirdLizard yea I agree, really Sombra before the rework was fine in my opinion, mainly because she was made to be a rat for the backline heros, making her a true threat to a lot of supports and sniper DPS. But really, there were ways she could've been dealt with. Moira, mei(sorta), reaper, torb, and even cassidy- people that whined, bitched, and moaned over it was just unable to accept the fact that sniper dps's are pretty much primary targets for Sombra.

    • @thiefpotato2759
      @thiefpotato2759 День тому

      As much as I hate killing bastion due to the armor changes, Bastion isn't a free win button. Like unless you are playing hitscan or Pharah, you are not killing bastion reliably.

    • @turkeyboiiiiiiiiiiiii3695
      @turkeyboiiiiiiiiiiiii3695 День тому +1

      @@thiefpotato2759 yea, bastion is another one of those DPS that are pretty easy targets for flank DPS, since his sentry mode moves his head hitbox towards his backside. Anyone that can get behind bastion there is good at wiping him out

    • @seanjohnston565
      @seanjohnston565 День тому +1

      It's an instant win if the dps knows how and when to play the matchups. Sombra this patch, not so much, but I'd say Bastion and Sym can make most tank's experience hell if you can abust their decision making and lack of game sense. In higher elos, tho it really doesn't work as well.

  • @sevret313
    @sevret313 День тому +102

    This is a good demonstration to why making a teammate switch to a specific character is pointless. If you play Pharah, of course you're going to struggle when dealing with Bastions limited mobility.

    • @sakaru2
      @sakaru2 День тому +1

      IT DEPENDS IF THE CHAR IS NOT WORKING I WILL ASKING IF THEY CAN SWITCH BUT ALWAYS DOWN TO TRY OUT WHAT EVER IS PICKED

    • @AhmedMohammed-pf3jk
      @AhmedMohammed-pf3jk День тому

      I usually know how to play most heroes in my role (Genji and Pharah have no point cuz One-tricks and META) , just some I love , I master ; So Personally , I’m okay with being told to switch (Pharah Im okay at ik how to play just haven’t mastered)

    • @seanjohnston565
      @seanjohnston565 День тому

      Just knowing about a concept or strategy's existence doesn't mean anything. If you don't know when and how to utilize it, as well as the matchups involved, the strengths and limitations, and at the very least, how to get the win con to work properly, once you plan to use the strat, it is about as uselful as a tank riding the cart on attack after a winning a fight outside the first choke.

    • @seanjohnston565
      @seanjohnston565 День тому

      ​@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk If you know what you need to do and have a plan, then it just becomes a matter of swapping to get the job done and adapting when it isn't working. If you lack that mindset, then sure, it probably feels personal when a teammate suggests a alternative hero to deal with the current situation. If you want to win, then try and solve the puzzle. It's game why you have to be mad?

    • @bigfudge2031
      @bigfudge2031 День тому +1

      @@AhmedMohammed-pf3jk If someone tells me they can play every character that usually means they can't play any character well. Having 2 hours on a character is not gonna be enough in a competitive game, you don't get good at a character by playing mystery heroes, you do it by putting in a lot of reps on the same heroes game after game.

  • @flcon16
    @flcon16 День тому +42

    This went from "How are they Silver 1!?" To "How are they Silver 1!?" Really quickly.

    • @nightsxgames
      @nightsxgames 22 години тому +1

      Lmao 100% - They need to 1 trick to get into gold+. The Pharah gameplay was amazing the others.... not so much lol =P

  • @reidhind5877
    @reidhind5877 День тому +9

    I love how when they went Pharah it was immediately obvious how much more comfortable they were with the character. They played a lot better both with positioning, plays etc. DONT LISTEN TO YOUR TANK BEFORE THE GAME EVEN BEGINS!!! Pick who you are most comfortable with as you will have the best chance of victory. If the comp really isn’t working out and teammates are suggesting a switch then maybe consider it. But again, people love to blame anyone but themselves so sometimes asking for you to switch is not justified.

  • @WunderWulfe
    @WunderWulfe День тому +22

    the one thing i see all the time is people saying “im not standing in the open” and “where is my team” but they never use cover, never check the feed, and never turn around; sometimes u just need to look at ur own replays and try spectating enemy PoV to see if youre feeding

  • @dragonmaster951753
    @dragonmaster951753 День тому +34

    This is a lesson to ignore what others want you to play. They get mad if you don't pick them and then get mad when you suck on them. These people can never be helped. Play to your strengths and stay level headed

  • @kingofgrim4761
    @kingofgrim4761 День тому +34

    I love how flats says in his sombra game he watched “hack then virus” and emongg says the opposite on the same day

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul День тому +5

      yh it's virus then shoot but new sombra is more of hack then shoot

    • @jktuert8630
      @jktuert8630 День тому +5

      It is common technique. Hacked targets get more damage from virus. But you usually want to start with virus cause hack gives the target some time to react.

    • @RusticRito
      @RusticRito День тому +1

      it depends, it used to be virus shoot, but now that the opportunist passive is back, hack virus shoot now I guess? It's still pretty valid to just virus shoot though.

    • @Voodoo318
      @Voodoo318 День тому

      With the rework you ALWAYS hack first, if you are able. There is a 20% damage increase to your primary when you hack now.

    • @hudsoncrager9129
      @hudsoncrager9129 День тому

      Go cowboys

  • @deepfriedicecream576
    @deepfriedicecream576 День тому +3

    One word for all Overwatch gamers complaining about team compositions. Situational awareness. Don’t throw your hands in the air when you are approached with a matchup that seems like it’s impenetrable. Use your heroes strengths, and the map’s strength to your advantage. Countering is not all about swapping heroes. A widowmaker can 1v4 a payload game, and win a match. I know this because I played widowmaker and 1v4 the team, leaving their tank defenseless as my teams comes into mop up. I picked my targets, the enemy widow first since she can directly counter me. Then the mercy to deny a resurrection on the widow or anyone else my team kills. Once widow and mercy are gone, I quickly jump down to the payload to stall it while also taking out the sojourn on point. The last person was zen who was behind me so I used my grapple hook to gain a higher position, turn around and kill zen in the air. All that was left was doomfist who had to kill my entire team to stall long enough for all 4 heroes to run back from spawn. Each kill I made out my team in a better win condition than before. Now, I’m a pretty good widow and i understand not everyone can hit shots all the time and make huge plays, but that’s not really my point. The real reason my team won that game was because I played to my heroes strengths. I used better positioning to win the widow duel. I used widowmaker lethality on a hero that can’t effectively back (Mercy). I contested the point and got a lucky kill on sojourn because she wasn’t expecting a widow on the ground behind her. I used her grapple hook for greater mobility to avoid zen’s high damaging, low speed projectiles, securing a kill on him because I put myself in the superior position. Overwatch is a strategy game, not a killing game. Use strategy, adapt, change, every game is different, learn from the enemy, your team, and trust yourself.
    Edit: I made a poorly edited short to put a visual reference to this comment. It is a phone recording of the moment in the match I described in the comment above. I’m not a crazy gamer, just trust that intuition within and read the battlefield! You want to win the war, not just the skirmish.

  • @Ranched
    @Ranched День тому +4

    Starting with a Rein, Bastion, Genji, Lucio, Mercy team comp is nightmare fuel. I can’t think of a worse line up 😂

  • @RogueBuraiSolo
    @RogueBuraiSolo День тому +10

    Man, this Pharah has really good movement. Wish I have that reaction on console.

  • @TheShapingSickness
    @TheShapingSickness День тому +7

    He went from bronze 5 sombra to diamond pharah.

  • @brookeboyd7095
    @brookeboyd7095 День тому +4

    Ah yes the “great” combination of Mercy/Lucio support line. Surprised tank didn’t get mad at that.

    • @AngrySecs
      @AngrySecs День тому

      Lucio had the right idea with rein. Unfortunately Goodluck getting a mercy player to swap..

  • @Zarrus491
    @Zarrus491 День тому +3

    this is off topic but i hope Emongg never changes his outro, it's so oddly nostalgic.

  • @moon-pp2uo
    @moon-pp2uo День тому +6

    Bro locked the fuck in

  • @0-Placeholder-0
    @0-Placeholder-0 День тому +2

    When virus was implemented, it made the translocator ability all wonky in the sense you had an escape ability and an active ability for the first time as sombra, after years of not having one. when virus was implemented, it was very easy for me, and a lot of players new to sombra to mix up the abilities so when the sombra teleported into their team it was clearly a misinput each time and I felt that pain of bein that guy

    • @nightsxgames
      @nightsxgames 22 години тому

      "lot of players new to sombra" - Ive played sombra as one of my main DPS since she came out (DPS is my least favorite role tho) - I still occasionally throw out Translocate when I want to virus.

  • @nightsxgames
    @nightsxgames 23 години тому

    That EMP at the end of round 1 was a classic reactionary - instead of using it to initiate - he used it like a support ult when he heard the 76 ult. But since it doesnt counter 76 ult at all... it didnt help.

  • @moleedaboi
    @moleedaboi День тому +15

    Okay, tanks like that are annoying af, but he's kinda right. I get that sombra isn't a damage farmer, but this sombra was basically doing nothing. It was worse on bastion...
    See, their pharah was waaayy much better. Dont play characters you're not good at just to please a whining tank.

    • @Bad3abdul
      @Bad3abdul День тому +1

      usually when I'm on tank If your hero isn't working for a round maybe in the team
      i just ask what else they can play rather than say what they should play i feel that is better

    • @zelucas8478
      @zelucas8478 День тому +3

      He isn't right tho. Sombra and bastion are faaaar away from a win button

  • @turkeyboiiiiiiiiiiiii3695
    @turkeyboiiiiiiiiiiiii3695 День тому

    The virus and shoot method is definitely effective, but it depends on the situation. Really when i play sombra, i save the hack for larger threats, but dps like ashe, widow, hanzo, even bastion are just fine being hit with a quick virus and shoot, in other words, it helps shorten the time it takes to start your ambush since you just tap virus instead of holding it

  • @gentlemankaiju1997
    @gentlemankaiju1997 День тому +4

    When you weren't Pharah you were playing like you didn't want to win cause u couldn't play your main.

  • @omniominous4534
    @omniominous4534 День тому +3

    No, pharah, no cry
    No, pharah, no cry
    No, pharah, no cry
    No, pharah, no cry
    'Cause, 'cause, 'cause I remember, when we used to sit
    In the spawn room of Midtown
    Oba, dancing with our hyped Reinhardt, yeah
    Mingle and greet, with the Ana so sweet, yeah
    Good friends who died fast, to whoosh and rocket blast
    Along the way, yeah
    In this great future, you can't forget your past
    So dry your tears, I say, yeah
    No, pharah, no cry
    No, pharah, no cry, eh, yeah
    Little darlin', who shed no tears
    No, pharah, no cry

  • @ooofuryooo296
    @ooofuryooo296 18 годин тому +1

    IMO, telling lowbies "POSITIONING IS KEY" and not pausing/explaining where they SHOULD have been set up is not helping them. Love your content, but some concepts are worth a bit more illustrating.

  • @imagoatiswear1938
    @imagoatiswear1938 День тому

    This is why if someone tells you to go a hero you don't play: just tell them you don't play them and if they still insist on it, just ignore or mute them

  • @2grilledcheeses484
    @2grilledcheeses484 День тому

    I thought the virus combo was good after they removed her hack DPS bonus? Since the DPS on hacked targets bonus is back maybe it's good to back first again?

  • @Darrakkii
    @Darrakkii 11 годин тому

    that tank was 100% typing ???? after he died and got rez'd, lmfao

  • @AC_Milan1899
    @AC_Milan1899 День тому +2

    Red team have an excellent easy to play in Silver comp.

  • @Sebb000
    @Sebb000 День тому

    How do you send him a VOD for him to review?

  • @DarkestNova556
    @DarkestNova556 2 години тому

    Idk what you were expecting from someone that does not play Sombra. Sombra players have to understand the utility of her moves. It’s always gonna look like this if you don’t.

  • @zeos26
    @zeos26 День тому +3

    People play much better on whatever they are comfortable on, just let people pick whatever, the Torb/Junkrat main might surprise you

    • @ireallydontknow278
      @ireallydontknow278 День тому

      Honestly especially torb
      I think torb is low-key kinda underrated
      He is incredibly tanky which makes him hard to kill which is always a bonus
      Not to mention his smaller size is actually better because it's harder to hit him
      And he can more easily hide behind map geometry
      His turret is a great zoning tool
      And is actually the best tool against flying Heroes as it's an aim bot so it's incredibly hard to deal with as a flying character (especially echo as her projectiles for some reason get affected by fall off for some reason while most projectiles don't)
      His ultimate is a great zoning tool
      And he can absolutely spread tanks with his shotgun and overload
      He's easily able to kill most tanks within a couple of shots
      And he also is one of the only few characters that don't suffer at any range
      Torb is good at long, medium and short range
      He's extremely good at least in my humble opinion
      And I get that this is all within a vacuum and not in practice
      But he's still kinda good

  • @nutcase724
    @nutcase724 10 годин тому

    just goes to show that you shouldn't let people dictate what you play

  • @minh9625
    @minh9625 День тому

    i think the tank want both bastion and sombra rather than just one, that's what he mean free win

  • @31mightymouse
    @31mightymouse День тому

    I never play sombra, but when i do i always hit the wrong button and translocate into the middle of the enemy team instead of virusing 😂

  • @laxraml
    @laxraml 2 дні тому +2

    Nice Vid as always with our Cutie

  • @tobysoneregret
    @tobysoneregret День тому

    I default virus and shoot, hacking is so easy to disrupt its just not worth it unless its like a tank

  • @kylejacobs1247
    @kylejacobs1247 День тому +1

    Painful watching 1st round last fight with a low HP soldier running to a health pack when EMP would have denied that and been great engage before they use all their ults.

  • @lpeabody
    @lpeabody День тому

    Pickle pizza sounds kinda good...

  • @trillbill138
    @trillbill138 День тому

    Had a hot cheetos pickle pizza at our state fair it was okay, definitely one of those weird foods you gotta try to decide yourself if it's a hit or not

    • @Caedus-nn
      @Caedus-nn День тому

      Man, I absolutely love hot cheetos, pickles, and pizza, but the three of them mixed together sounds like an abomination.
      Would still probably try it once , but my hopes wouldn't be too high for it lol

    • @trillbill138
      @trillbill138 День тому

      @@Caedus-nn Being the odd combo that it was I was surprised that I didn't hate it. If I had to rate it out of 10 I'd probably give it a 4 or 5 . Not anything you have to trek out into the world to discover and try but if you don't mind those foods separate and come across it I would recommend trying it at least.

  • @TheGreatPewpyOne
    @TheGreatPewpyOne День тому +2

    This was definitely a low silver lobby lmao

  • @geert574
    @geert574 День тому

    healers should go zen or kiri when bastion is a problem

  • @eachfilly825
    @eachfilly825 День тому +1

    Was the trans locator at 4:38 intentional or a miss click?🤦‍♂

  • @MrBastionOverwatch0
    @MrBastionOverwatch0 5 годин тому

    Man I wish this title was true (about the bastion not sombra)

  • @fatmasterblaster
    @fatmasterblaster День тому

    bastion x torb duo still top teir

  • @V1c._.
    @V1c._. День тому

    I swear I’ve played with this guy before..

  • @ToneTakeFlight22
    @ToneTakeFlight22 День тому

    lol i love how you take your headset off. its so unique

  • @nightsxgames
    @nightsxgames 23 години тому

    omg translocate into team almost spilt my coffee over my keyboard - mainly because I did that all the time - Hack - then ok lets viru... crap that wasnt virus.

  • @zzac7433
    @zzac7433 День тому

    thay probably played Sombra before Overwatch 2 and the whole switching up all the buttons for Sombra is probably messing with him during this game. E and shift are swap compared to most outher hearos. Which explains why they seemingly random TP's into the enemy is probably them trying to do damage with virus.

  • @emmainch6823
    @emmainch6823 21 годину тому

    I have a kind of friend called bouncy bear and they have a friend called judyalvarezz

  • @tan.tan10
    @tan.tan10 День тому

    Emongg us

  • @KxngRC
    @KxngRC День тому

    no bingo?

  • @Waffl3B1T
    @Waffl3B1T 2 дні тому +2

    ALRIGHT SO!

  • @sneezy4675
    @sneezy4675 2 дні тому +1

    Hey Emongg

  • @moonyeast
    @moonyeast День тому

    classic scoreboard scotty

  • @basedtexas18
    @basedtexas18 День тому

    Why would they listen to a orisa user lamest tank in the game ☠️😂

  • @zov282
    @zov282 День тому +8

    Old sombra was the GOAT!

    • @lorenzothedonut
      @lorenzothedonut День тому +2

      Ik now she's broken

    • @SocialExperiment232
      @SocialExperiment232 День тому

      @@lorenzothedonut???

    • @lorenzothedonut
      @lorenzothedonut День тому +1

      @SocialExperiment232 like you have a 5 second cooldown before you transform back I hate that I liked it when u stayed stealth mode

    • @zov282
      @zov282 День тому

      @@lorenzothedonut it's two full seconds of utter helplessness, no matter what you do.

    • @lorenzothedonut
      @lorenzothedonut День тому

      @@zov282 either way i dont like it

  • @W4RM4T
    @W4RM4T День тому

    They just want to prove their tank wrong. 😅

  • @TheRolex216
    @TheRolex216 День тому

    Due went from silver to plat by switching to Phara.

  • @jerod256
    @jerod256 День тому

    I love how people still haven't figured out how the support picks matter, probably more, than the tank and dps picks. Mercy and Lucio, smh.

    • @dash4800
      @dash4800 День тому

      how have people not figured out picks don't matter much at all. Its all about how you play. Comps only really matter at high rank. Telling anyone to swap to a specific hero is basically never going to do anything. Swap if you are not being effective, don't swap just because "mercy lucio is a bad comp". Mercy lucio is fine in 95% of games.

  • @aimlesswitch
    @aimlesswitch День тому

    don't listen to your tilted teammate asking for a swap. Always go for comfort picks unless a swap is REALLY needed

  • @DavidParrigin
    @DavidParrigin 2 дні тому +17

    Honestly, I liked the old sombra better. Overwatch is kind of boring now without having to worry about a flanking sombra.

    • @zov282
      @zov282 День тому +6

      I play the new sombra so much just to try and figure out a strat it's hopless. I used to have epic speedster battles with tracer.

    • @wswann34
      @wswann34 День тому +7

      Widow is now destroying lobbies. Now people will cry for widow to get nerf

    • @Terror-Gene
      @Terror-Gene День тому +1

      While i hated sombras poping up in the back to get a kill, i did enjoy tagging them & killing them as a team! as a sombra player myself, i do miss sneaking around. but i am adjusting. its more of a "jump the gap" kind of invis now...

    • @Antonio-ys5zd
      @Antonio-ys5zd День тому

      ​@@zov282I figured out one strategy but it's really risky. So pretty much just keep flinging yourself directly at them and run around them in loops hoping they follow you instead of look at your teammates. Otherwise she's shitty

    • @zov282
      @zov282 День тому

      @@wswann34 oh ya, I used to keep widow in check. She can carry if no one has an answer. She sees me coming a mile away now.

  • @zachbrownell8075
    @zachbrownell8075 День тому +1

    As an Sombra main, the spamming of boop has such a mental strategy that you can watch a player, Crack, just thinking you are close.

  • @cameronharrington6813
    @cameronharrington6813 День тому

    I hate how in every video he repeats "positioning is key" when most people sending these videos in probably barely understand the concept and could use several big examples. Half the time he just says "positioning is key" and then carries on watching

  • @nightsxgames
    @nightsxgames 23 години тому

    Dude - I can see why Pharah is your main... If this was Silver you will likely climb if you 1 trick a bit.

  • @aleyba7678
    @aleyba7678 День тому

    Romans 16:20 says, "The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you". God loves you all amen

  • @Duddzy
    @Duddzy 2 дні тому

    Third!

  • @juanmanuelmontivero4473
    @juanmanuelmontivero4473 День тому +1

    No wonder he is silver, he is only good at phara when nobody can aim or counter her.

    • @Mash-NL
      @Mash-NL День тому +13

      Oke and? Do you feel better now? Now you flamed him for no reason.

    • @juanmanuelmontivero4473
      @juanmanuelmontivero4473 День тому +1

      @@Mash-NL I guess i touch a nerve there. What i said is that if you play a noob killer hero you will only get to win against bronze and silver players. Better git gud bois.

    • @ianian69
      @ianian69 День тому +2

      at least bros having fun, overwatch is like living hell when ur sweating, they can play who they wanna play and if they are silver then they are silver, atleast they are having fun lmfao

    • @wraithisright7820
      @wraithisright7820 День тому +1

      ​@@juanmanuelmontivero4473 they submitted this vod to improve, behaving in the way you are is a pathetic response to a person learning. You might be better at overwatch than them but I can tell they're an infinitely better person.

    • @juanmanuelmontivero4473
      @juanmanuelmontivero4473 День тому

      @@wraithisright7820Lol. You really are taking this seriously man, chill out. Telling someone that playing like a silver get them stuck in silver is though but true. Go touch some grass

  • @PA551ON
    @PA551ON День тому +6

    Their Pharah is great. Easily above Silver. They can climb on that hero.

  • @friskeyinkey9024
    @friskeyinkey9024 17 годин тому

    This sombra is bronze trash you wouldn’t have to deal with trash players constantly throwing games if the game wasn’t free and paid for with skins