I had a comp game where the mercy trolled and refused to heal any. (She ended the game with 0 healing.) But we still managed to clutch at the end. Moral of the story; some people suck, dont let them ruin your game.
Had a pacifist diva who didn’t shoot once and just spammed Hi to the enemy…. Still ended up winning! Don’t let one toxic player ruin your mental and you just may win!!
@sagechanged7923 We just worked around it. Even though the mercy never healed she still damage boosted and me and the other dps chose self healing heros (soldier and mei) which i think barely made up for the throwing mercy.
Advising them to split up from the team and play angles is good advice and all, but you underestimate how quick low ranks are to flame you for "abandoning the team"
Who cares what low ranked players say to you? If you know what you’re doing is right just do it. Mute text/voice chat if needed. It’s much better than listening to bad advice from gold/plat teammates who have no idea how to play the game.
@@zzzetsuboI agree with you, but if both your DPS start throwing because of your perceived abandoning then you can be right all you want, you're probably still losing haha
@@zzzetsubo A big part of team games is team morale. Seeing as gamers aren't generally known for being social butterflies sometimes you have to baby them for the sake of them performing better.
I'll even play with my group of friends and when I'm on DPS I'll try and off angle, not far from the team either I'm still in Los of the healer, and one of my friends will always say "you're too spread out! We need to group up" and I'm over here killing off a healer or whatever. Like I'll come back when I get my pick. 😂
@@poot2762 that’s just their problem tbh…if DPS players throw your game because you don’t babysit them it means they’re crybabies and they rely on others to win instead of focusing on their own gameplay. Avoid them and go next, and if you get them on the enemy team that’s a free win 👍
I recently had an awful match but everyone was accusing a different player of being the issue. I wlll never understand how anyone can stay in the match and expect to do well while complaining their every move.
They need to either add vote kick or the ability to just leave games. This tank just tortured his team for 30 minutes. I bet those players just immediately logged off and didn't play for the rest of the week.
@@bobothebob4716 I am not saying he did perfect. I am saying that getting angry and tilting others usually results in a worse performance, overall. People get emotional and defensive and try to prove the complainer wrong.
@@kecleonic I just think it's a game design problem. Forcing people to play on teams they don't want to play on anymore will naturally breed animosity in the playerbase and toxicity. How could you keep competitive integrity and allow players to leave? I'm not sure. Maybe we just have to accept the current design; that the competitive nature of the game will just naturally cause toxicity.
I think it lies in human nature to want to prove someone wrong when challenged. But a lot of the time we fail to realize we'd be better off just not letting it get to us. I think most people probably feel worse after having one of those matches, but still we keep tilting
i think they did the right thing @7:20, they need to cap the point so I wouldn’t mind blocking the main entrance that leads to 2 different areas to touch cart
Yeah, in low ranks they doggy brain a lot. I do feed on purpose sometimes cause they'll be so busy chasing the red spot they'll forget about objective 😂Like they did here
Juno main with close to 100hrs under my belt here. You were not playing great but Juno should be playing around cover, her only real threat is Widow. If it's post nerf Juno I understand a lil more the frustration since at long range her poke & heals feels terrible so they probably felt hopeless when you dove,fed, and died so fast as Winton.
@@timelord_tori I ain't changin for anybody to help encourage bad habits. I also wouldn't tell anybody to switch though cause I know how stubborn I am , but I also don't play dumb.
@@gentlemankaiju1997This was a team issue...outside of that...I don't tell ppl to swap because I main Ball, but ppl telling me to swap because they simply don't know how to position makes me ABSOLUTELY not swap because if anything, the team should swap around tank most of the time, not the other way around. The community gets NO heat for this
@@timelord_toriThey have a Widow. Going Ana is asking to lose your head. Especially a good Widow, which their was solid. But you want the supports to forcefully switch to accommodate for the tanks terrible playmaking?
7:25 nah they completely forgot about the cart I consider this a win😂 Ok fr though, Emongg gives advice based on his experience in top 500 games. This is a different game though. Going to feed in their spawn doors because you know they'll forget about objective getting close to a point to chase a moving red thingy is a real tech. Holding 3 of them and Shattering after they lost the point.
21:55 That was the hardest part for me to learn as tank main as well. It's hard to commit to a play when you have more to do than the other 2 roles combined.
@@schmietwechdeschiet4340 they kept trying to dive in which I get, but instead and just staying in a safe spot where they can’t be touched, they keep moving around when the have like 25% of their health which makes it impossible to keep them alive as support because they won’t stop soaking up damage or back up out of the fight. Players really need to be more aware of their health and where their supports are, and what their supports can actually do to benefit them instead of seemingly playing like they have no team
@@Princ3ssCaisupport main, and I absolutely feel this. The biggest problem hero’s I usually encounter is a doom or diva who dive behind cover and then complain they’re not being healed. Like yeah…. I can’t heal through walls
@@Smr19421 exactly, tank player have it rough but supports have it just as bad. Sometimes tanks are so unaware they RUN AWAY when you're trying to heal them and will still blame you
The only way out of metal ranks is friends or infinite patience i've had people tilt from their own stupid plays and start to throw and rage at basically themselves. Its honestly sad to see the state of some of these players. I'm not even that concerned with climbing but the meltdowns are just pathetic and sad.
no one these days talks about how three on cart is less efficient even if the cart moves faster, a lot of OW2 players who werent around for OW1 think you need 2-3 on cart
Platinum is worse because theur ego expands thinking "Im clearly better than gold, I was just stuck in ELO hell." Meanwhile they are complete ass and insufferable to play with. If you want to see a breakdown of a team watch plat lobbies, fuckers think they can 1v5 and dont waste time feeding.
I changed my profile visibility to private and didn't use the GM Support / Damage role just to see what would happen in QP. I had silver to plat players flame me many times. Not a single high elo player ever complained. As soon as I put my profile on public = not a single world from anyone in QP. The dunning kruger effect is strong in this game, too...
why would emongg think they turn around when winston is on high ground harassing widow? when some juicy squishies are right infront of them unprotected. especially as a rein bastion combo...
I had a comp game where the mercy trolled and refused to heal any. (She ended the game with 0 healing.) But we still managed to clutch at the end. Moral of the story; some people suck, dont let them ruin your game.
Enemy team must've felt bad or just had a thrower themselves to pull that off 💀💀
Had a pacifist diva who didn’t shoot once and just spammed Hi to the enemy…. Still ended up winning! Don’t let one toxic player ruin your mental and you just may win!!
@sagechanged7923 We just worked around it. Even though the mercy never healed she still damage boosted and me and the other dps chose self healing heros (soldier and mei) which i think barely made up for the throwing mercy.
Advising them to split up from the team and play angles is good advice and all, but you underestimate how quick low ranks are to flame you for "abandoning the team"
Who cares what low ranked players say to you? If you know what you’re doing is right just do it. Mute text/voice chat if needed. It’s much better than listening to bad advice from gold/plat teammates who have no idea how to play the game.
@@zzzetsuboI agree with you, but if both your DPS start throwing because of your perceived abandoning then you can be right all you want, you're probably still losing haha
@@zzzetsubo A big part of team games is team morale. Seeing as gamers aren't generally known for being social butterflies sometimes you have to baby them for the sake of them performing better.
I'll even play with my group of friends and when I'm on DPS I'll try and off angle, not far from the team either I'm still in Los of the healer, and one of my friends will always say "you're too spread out! We need to group up" and I'm over here killing off a healer or whatever. Like I'll come back when I get my pick. 😂
@@poot2762 that’s just their problem tbh…if DPS players throw your game because you don’t babysit them it means they’re crybabies and they rely on others to win instead of focusing on their own gameplay. Avoid them and go next, and if you get them on the enemy team that’s a free win 👍
I recently had an awful match but everyone was accusing a different player of being the issue. I wlll never understand how anyone can stay in the match and expect to do well while complaining their every move.
They need to either add vote kick or the ability to just leave games. This tank just tortured his team for 30 minutes. I bet those players just immediately logged off and didn't play for the rest of the week.
@@bobothebob4716 I am not saying he did perfect. I am saying that getting angry and tilting others usually results in a worse performance, overall. People get emotional and defensive and try to prove the complainer wrong.
@@kecleonic I just think it's a game design problem. Forcing people to play on teams they don't want to play on anymore will naturally breed animosity in the playerbase and toxicity. How could you keep competitive integrity and allow players to leave? I'm not sure. Maybe we just have to accept the current design; that the competitive nature of the game will just naturally cause toxicity.
I think it lies in human nature to want to prove someone wrong when challenged. But a lot of the time we fail to realize we'd be better off just not letting it get to us. I think most people probably feel worse after having one of those matches, but still we keep tilting
@@poot2762 I agree. I didnt join the blaming fest of that match. Kinda wish people will at least wait before getting angry.
I was having trouble focusing on anything after noticing what the Bastion player's name was.
2:36 Oh my lord that illari got put down!
I just saw that, that was so funny 😂
I love a good helicopter moment 3:03
i think they did the right thing @7:20, they need to cap the point so I wouldn’t mind blocking the main entrance that leads to 2 different areas to touch cart
Yeah, in low ranks they doggy brain a lot. I do feed on purpose sometimes cause they'll be so busy chasing the red spot they'll forget about objective 😂Like they did here
Juno main with close to 100hrs under my belt here. You were not playing great but Juno should be playing around cover, her only real threat is Widow. If it's post nerf Juno I understand a lil more the frustration since at long range her poke & heals feels terrible so they probably felt hopeless when you dove,fed, and died so fast as Winton.
Okay but you see that happening it’s then on you to switch to kiri/ana or whatever you need to make it work. Goes both ways
@@timelord_tori I ain't changin for anybody to help encourage bad habits. I also wouldn't tell anybody to switch though cause I know how stubborn I am , but I also don't play dumb.
@@gentlemankaiju1997This was a team issue...outside of that...I don't tell ppl to swap because I main Ball, but ppl telling me to swap because they simply don't know how to position makes me ABSOLUTELY not swap because if anything, the team should swap around tank most of the time, not the other way around. The community gets NO heat for this
@@timelord_toriThey have a Widow. Going Ana is asking to lose your head. Especially a good Widow, which their was solid. But you want the supports to forcefully switch to accommodate for the tanks terrible playmaking?
7:25 nah they completely forgot about the cart I consider this a win😂
Ok fr though, Emongg gives advice based on his experience in top 500 games. This is a different game though. Going to feed in their spawn doors because you know they'll forget about objective getting close to a point to chase a moving red thingy is a real tech. Holding 3 of them and Shattering after they lost the point.
21:55 That was the hardest part for me to learn as tank main as well. It's hard to commit to a play when you have more to do than the other 2 roles combined.
At least the Juno was true to their name. A grumpy jumping support 😂
ALRIGHT SO!!
Todays video we’re watching a gold tank on pc
@@Princ3ssCai Where is the good tank? Is there a part 2?
@@yomamaaaa2366 mistype 💀
Never put much thought into map control..nice tip I’ll try applying it later
I had a winston like this the day. Stayed winston the whole game against hog and bastion, ended like 4-13. Like bro just switch its okay
people losemore to thier own ego than opposing players. switch off the widow or tank you started with.
2 types of annoying tanks. Those that never switch and just blame everyone else and those that swap every death and never build ults or team synergy.
Tbf if your on a low level even against counters you can win with a little bit of logic
@darrenjackson2800 Yeah, that's a tough match-up for winston. Not unplayable but not easy. Especially when he was just trying to face tank the hog
@@doakesanddrax true, personally i wouldnt, in a lew level game its pretty winnable just by not making mistakes. Cos yk the other team will
I am so surprised we haven't gotten the 3:02 comment on the zoomin UFO Winton ragdoll
We... did tho?
We did lmao
No offense to the player but the beginning of this game is a example of why playing support is so infuriating
elaborate
@@schmietwechdeschiet4340 they kept trying to dive in which I get, but instead and just staying in a safe spot where they can’t be touched, they keep moving around when the have like 25% of their health which makes it impossible to keep them alive as support because they won’t stop soaking up damage or back up out of the fight. Players really need to be more aware of their health and where their supports are, and what their supports can actually do to benefit them instead of seemingly playing like they have no team
@@Princ3ssCaisupport main, and I absolutely feel this. The biggest problem hero’s I usually encounter is a doom or diva who dive behind cover and then complain they’re not being healed. Like yeah…. I can’t heal through walls
@@Smr19421 exactly, tank player have it rough but supports have it just as bad. Sometimes tanks are so unaware they RUN AWAY when you're trying to heal them and will still blame you
The only way out of metal ranks is friends or infinite patience i've had people tilt from their own stupid plays and start to throw and rage at basically themselves.
Its honestly sad to see the state of some of these players. I'm not even that concerned with climbing but the meltdowns are just pathetic and sad.
Elo hell does not exist. Nothing makes you have more throwers than the enemy.
25:27 Orisa should get overshield for eaten javelin spin dmg too😂
How do I submit a VOD? I‘m already in the discord, but do I need to be subbed to emongg on twitch as well?
no one these days talks about how three on cart is less efficient even if the cart moves faster, a lot of OW2 players who werent around for OW1 think you need 2-3 on cart
winston into a rein bastion juno, took him over a minute to die once could of just walked back into spawn and swapped with that time
Being gold and having egos is baffling to me lol
Platinum is worse because theur ego expands thinking "Im clearly better than gold, I was just stuck in ELO hell." Meanwhile they are complete ass and insufferable to play with. If you want to see a breakdown of a team watch plat lobbies, fuckers think they can 1v5 and dont waste time feeding.
I changed my profile visibility to private and didn't use the GM Support / Damage role just to see what would happen in QP.
I had silver to plat players flame me many times. Not a single high elo player ever complained. As soon as I put my profile on public = not a single world from anyone in QP. The dunning kruger effect is strong in this game, too...
6:07 bros so old he don’t know what winter ark is 😂
why would emongg think they turn around when winston is on high ground harassing widow? when some juicy squishies are right infront of them unprotected. especially as a rein bastion combo...
This makes me want to play winton but then get rolled
If you are gold or below your teammates is not the problem
1:20 just pick orisa
Does he play anymore or does he just react to whatever?
26:18 DO NOT actually stand IN FRONT of the cart Emongg pls
I aint hear no bell
"It's not that cold in Massachusetts " Oh hun. It never gets that cold in Massachusetts. Cute.
how about we now get replay code in description along with a vod
So you guys can harass?