Sweden Wreaking HAVOC Ft. 9040c - Mi-28A - War Thunder
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In fact the Swedes never flew the Mi-28A, they just watched the Russian pilots fly the Mi-28A.
they did 'fly' it, just never alone. It was either a swedish pilot and a russian gunner or vise versa, honestly can't remember which way.
«The Mi-28 helicopter was delivered to Sweden on October 7, 1995. Before the start of the tests, several Swedish pilots completed a training course for pilots and helicopter weapon operators. However, during the tests, the Swedes were only at the operator's workplace, piloting was carried out by a Russian pilot»
@@1rn0_66 as addedChesse said they always had a Swedish gunner or pilot for the trials and a Russian in the outer seat.
Funny outcome Sweden did like the helicopter overall them self but dident like its optics and weapons since they where outdated and unreliable.
If i a purchase would have been made it would have carried Apache optics and wpns.
9:03 that explains a lot about helis not dying
It's a graphic bug usually you have this with yellowish tail on the mi 24-28-35.
Also ka players get kicked out of the heli with just the tail gone, while these heli are made to be able to fly with one are fine and no tail at all although slower and way less stable and maneuverable
20:15"Those are spawn campers don't do that"
Proceeds to spawncamp a tank.
This is how Warthunder sadly works.... I still wish for bigger Maps in higher BR but nah. By the way Heli spawn camping vs other helis are quite funny........
I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw the irony in that
It's most streamers do, All you see in high score games as well... It's just sad.
As ironic as this statement is, what Justin meant to say vs what came out his mouth has a deeper context. He said “Those are spawn campers, don’t do that.” Because those two individuals were in the winning teams spawn despite the fact that they had zero objectives taken and their team very obviously needed assistance at their own spawn. Instead of camping they could have either returned to their spawn to help prevent being overrun, or capture an objective. In the end they chose to push deeper into the spawn and consequently weren’t beneficial to their team.
Yeah, Im surprised that the Mi-28A is even at the Swedish Tech Tree. Really unique for them to have an eastern bloc Attack Heli.
if sweden cant have mi 28a then Japan cant have their M47, P-51 or BF-109. Usa cant have their bf 109 neither
@@Fjordzera But at least the Japanese used those aircraft. Like where is the Swedish doctrine of using an Mi-28A en mass during the Cold War? Why not just turn the game into World of Tanks and fantasy vehicles than? That's what you are saying.
And they also have Apache, which they never had too. Typically gaijoob is making « what if » tech trees now…
@@ivanbarbancon8750 The reason Sweden has the mi28 and apatch is because they tested them both.
@@Sag05501 this is not a sufficient reason to add them in standard tech tree. Mi 28 would have been a better « squadron » or event reward…
France tested F-18, does that mean we will get it ? Ofc no
Loved the video, and I would very much like to see a video of you covering the AHS!
I like to call it the stinger eater because it usually takes 3-4 stingers to take it out
"Spawncampers.. pisees me off. Don't do that shit"
**Proceeds to spawncamp**
Hey justin! Never thought about making a video trying to earn all the steam achievmentes of war thunder? Saw that you didn't have all of them on 11:58. Btw love the vid :))
I think that's a bug with the Mi-28A's flight characteristics (even today) when it does an "Apache manover" and crashes, since if u press the "hover" key before it rolls over it fixes it.
I was searching for ASMR and came across this, lmfao I'm not disappointed
Its so damn strong,like it shredds everyone at 10.0
can you play the post nerf Type-74G please, it's been a while since you talked about it and an update on the vehicle would be nice.
yes please
It sucks doodoo
you should really play the IT-1, it's one of my most favorite tanks in game, and is so fun to play.
Yeah play IT-1
Camp tank missile launching ass lol
By far the most annoying tank
so satisfying sniping planes with atgms
Justin always coming through with videos, rn got covid so I'm straight up like the expression "beating a dead horse" but Justin how long to the OF.40 videos???
That APFSDS is consistant, very consistant. I dont know why, but my DM33 in 2A5 really eats ERA much.
13:03 maybe because adats gets anti tank capabilities that completely cuts through ERA ?? maybe thats why adats is 11.0 ?? and tunguska doesnt even get apds ?? maybe thas why its 10.7?
And Flakrad is 11.0 which is a huge stationary base with missiles only. It can barely move while stock and Ka50s only need to shoot 3 missiles to kill it.
Makes no sense
@@sergeanttrobey2758 it do be getting 12km range tho.
@@sergeanttrobey2758 countering aa missiles with atgms is no where near as effective, the proxy doesnt trigger on each other anymore
it doesnt cut through era because its not tandem, it takes 2 missiles to pen russian ufp but it has so much explosive mass it mostly overpressures the whole crew
@@waldek7772 same thing either way. kills mbt's consistently even if those (ussr, china) have ERA which would be the main counter for it.
DUDE I was the ETENDARD on the last game
im still pissed gaijin changed the S-13DF rockets to the OF ones. It was so much fun using them
Damn, you´re good.
Sometime ago, i got a nuke using this heli. 10/10 absolutely not broken at all.
Have you ever done any guides on hoe to use Helicopters properly with how to set up which controls and that?
the Atakas are also good at anti air
Don't spawncamp, says the dude in a heli firing AGMs into the enemy spawn XD
YEP JUST NORMAL DAY IN SOVIET MY FRIEND, THAT ROTOR SPIN UNTIL STALIN SAYS OTHERWISE
Wait wait wait... sooooo does the 30mm on the heli get apfsds since bmp got it? Seems like something they'd do
As someone who has started playing helis, the starter ones are (generally) OP and the top tier ones are definitely OP even without playing them, but the 9.0-ish ones are rough
Tell this the AH-1Fs at 9.7.
Thermals and 8 TOWs (japanese get even TOW-2) and you are below the Roland BR.
Only like 3 starter heli's could be considered op. Stuff like the h34 ,ab205, and even the swede starter just suck. Top tier heli's are a mixed bag if you rely on hellfires they can be finicky and you will fight plenty of direct superiors unless you're in a ka50/2 or the mi28nm, the few competitors is the British Apache and the tiger uht. Every one else is fodder
@@aratay3117 with how good spaa is and missile proxy not countering aa missiles anymore even ka-50 struggles, especially since things like vt-1 have 12km range now
@@waldek7772 unless they just recently changed it the vikrs uses it's proxy fuse against spaa missiles. And because they're beam riding you can use several to take out the missile and the opposing spaa
@@aratay3117 it was said before in a patch some time ago that this got nerfed, and i can say with experience 90% of the time the missile goes straight through all ur vikhrs and 1 shots you
both the mi-28a and apache we’re tested and trialed but none of them entered service sadly
Iirc, none were selected bc the Soviet union collapsed right?
@@BlitZnGodzilla117 nope. Why would the soviet hand out they’re tech also the trials were in 1996, 5 years after the collapse of the soviet union
the apache was operated by swedish crews and was a part of the swedish military the mi 28 was not
Not really apart of the swedish military i would say. But they did have crews trained unlike the havoc
7712 hours of War Thunder, Justin?
I wasn't kidding when I said I play this game too much!
WT should include an option where only tanks can be used... so that recent noobs don't take out a plane or heli as soon as you kill them....
:D most often its not the noobs rather the more experienced players who just instantly drone, heli or cas you and half of your team
I just want the maps to be bigger for top tier
There is no Russian or T-72 get injured in this video.
Had a match a while ago where my team shot down a total of 12 Ka-50/52, we still lost the match >.>
Hey Justin could you do a video on the AH-64DJP.
Dude at the start that was like paid actors 100%
I try this stuff with the LVKV and I get spanked I really need to get the 9040c I guess
So as far as I know Sweden tested the Mi-28 but does not own or operate Mi-28s, so has someone info to the contrary?
how to have fun in war thunder : watching youtubers playing it xD its too much for me what devs are doing/not doing but watching is way funnier for me than playing it :D
i could see this going to 10.3 but with the current compression i think that is as far as it can go
It's a carbon copy of the 10.7 Mi28N minus thermals which are not as big of a deal in heli as in tank
@@Martel_Clips it lacks themals and maw and actually thermals are very useful for helis, i cant believe this got added at 9.7 tho
Honestly just wanna point something out here that maybe went past many people.
The Puma began on 8.3. There is no way any of Gaijins Dev's couldn't know that this would go horribly wrong.
So here's my Theorie:
-Release new iconic Vehicle a lot of people like, know and have been wishing for a while (In this case the Puma).
-Make it low in BR. so it Power-creeps and becomes a very Overpowered vehicle.
-People will try to get as soon as possible to the Vehicle.
-Some people may buy Packs or buy Golden Eagles to get there faster.
Outcome:
-Profit
-Very good game advertising
So in the end of the day I honestly just think its planned by Gaijin, to raise the games population and make some profit from people who badly want the Iconic and cool vehicle being added.
This happend before multiple times like for example with the Maus. The reason of it "Not being Balanceable" cause to be removed from the game. Every year the Maus returns, just so people can get it, buy it and in order to force people to play te game if they want the Maus. It happened before when the Leopard 2A5 was finally added. It happened before when the T-90A was added and a lot more. A lot of Helicopter were very OP in the beginning, as the game got a massive gain on players when they added Helicopter. Stuff has been unbalanced for a longer time, like for example the KA50. Gaijin made a tone of money off of it and people were buying the KA50 like crazy, so they didn't bother as long as it brought a reasonable amount of profit.
Imo just a repeating pattern. To me, a player who's rolling with the game since release, all of those Vehicles were OP since they were announced and on DevServer's with their BR's and specifications.
they bumped it up to 10.7 😢
Bmp2m has been moved to 9.3 and got apfsds😬
Funny thing is, Sweden tested both, the AH-64s and the Mi-28s but chose neither of them. Instead, they have no attack helicopter in reality.
the mi28 was only in sweden for like a month and didnt even have swedish pilots, it didnt even get swedish markings
the apache was in sweden for over a year with entirely swedish crews and had swedish markings
@@einar8019 no the Apache and Mi28 were in Sweden for roughly the same amount of time, the 2 Apaches combined flew for a total of 99 hours.
0:43 "Gaijin was smart enough to move it up to 10.0". They knew it was a bad idea (for players) but brilliant idea for the company to put it at 9.7, they did in purpose to get more revenue because the hype and meta when it launched. Cursed company.
happens with pretty much every premium. under tier it, then bump it up. im surprised the a10 hasnt been moved to 10.0 yet
@@sinsley1 The A-10 is fine where it is. Practically everything it fights is more then capable of mauling it.
@@mando_dablord2646 while that may be true gaijin doesn’t always think so
Justin, Sweden never « tested » those. In fact, ussr just said « hey look, mi28 would look like this I you buy them » and I’m not sure for the Apache is kinda same story..
So it is a « what if » tech tree…
the apache was operated by swedish crews for over a year to see how they would intergrate with swedish forces, it had full swedish crew and swedish markings
@@einar8019 didnt know that ;) that explain the Apache
@@ivanbarbancon8750 yeah the only reason they were not purchased was because of budget cuts
How do you lock on targets, whenever i play Chopper this doesnt really work. Man why isnt there a tutorial for choppers like for planes?
U aim that a plane and if your heil is a higher tier press f to lock on to stuff
Yes my favorite ifv, fucking love the damn thing
Tank only mode please....
8:25 , slow down to 0.25 and watch damage cam. :)
Vehicles like these are the reason why I do only one spawn runs at 9.0 and above.
Why throw away my vehicles, backups and SL to be cannon fodder for some wannabe pilot.
And people wondering why we J out after the first death...anything higher than 9.0 are not fun to up against
Just put SPAA in your lineup.
In a downtier you can bring up a jet after 1 kill or cap.
With the jet you can then take out helis for your team.
Justin has exceptional good situational awareness (at least from what he showed) but this isn't the usually way.
Just approach the heli from the side and as low as possible, the chances that he gets you too are small.
@@majo3488 this doesn’t work for every nation though, for instance, the best SPAA that Russia get up to rank 6 is only 8.0 and is far out ranged and outclassed by the helis you’ll face at 9.7. As for the plane, it only works in downtiers which don’t happen often.
@@ilikepies4877 You should not use the ZSUs above 9.0 as there are almost useless.
2M with Kornet proxy or Shturm-S with Ataka proxy is way better.
Even Krizanthema is better for heli engagement.
@@majo3488 I’m working on getting the 2m, but am broke at the moment. I just find it to be a bit of a bruh moment that there isn’t a better AA before the Tunguska.
I hate spawn campers, 👀2 minutes later 😂
I still droped a nuke with it at 10.0 XD
Spawn camping is part of the game at this point you should expect some scumbag doing it. Everybody has been that scumbag too
super early lets gooo! Also hope you're enjoying your new house!!
The guns have wayyyy too much zoom, without thermals it makes searching for vehicles a PAIN especially in sim
It's adjustable zoom right just set a zoom axis instead of the all or nothing key like every brain having person
@@Martel_Clips wait a minute, whatchu talkin about
Delivering hate and discontent with the guiding hands of the Norse gods
We can all agree that sweden have pretty overpower top tier vehicles
You are entirely wrong. Sorry!
Yeah but gaijin downgrade them which annoying in this game
ka-50 can burn and still be full operational
so can most of the helis, it depends where the fire is
no thermo?????????
Nations having russian vehicles that were never used by that nation is a typical gajin moment. And reskins that are the same as the normal russian vehicles should be just that a camo for the russian vehicles
I still don't get why gaijin don't to put tiger hap at 9.7
at 10.0 France doesn't not have any tanks and tiger have worst missiles at this Br
I feel like the Adats is at 11.0 because of how well it can deal with tanks, whereas the 2s6 is only good at taking out aircraft and light vehicles
Idk the 2s6 has killed me multiple times from the front in the abrams
I have the ADATS 82mm of APDS isn't much at top tier because wherever ur shot u did, the tung has INSANE fire rate and can def destroy tanks better, and it's missiles are easier to guide, it's just typical gaijin
@@thebirbestbirb you...you do know that the ADATS has like 800mm pen missiles right? And the 2s6 only has like 60mm of pen on its missiles?
@@ryandavis5286 I’ve never had a 2s6 kill me from the front, I’ve had them knock out my barrel and tracks and then shoot me in the side, but never killed me from the front...ADATS tho...that thing gives me nightmares
@@thebirbestbirb if you're using your main cannon against tanks instead of your fantastic atgms, wtf are you doing?
i can't add you on steam
I like how the 40mm APFSDS does way more damage consistently than the 60mm HVG APFSDS. So dumb.
does more than 76mm darts too
AHS do ittt
so a heli that visited sweden once gets into the tech tree? seems legit
The strfs nearly broke me. Unmodified, their mobility is awful. Their strength is in flanking, but they are so sluggish it's hard to get to decent positions. You can't even get to a safe capture point in time to get any RP. Research is painful in these. Can't think of worse IFV type vehicles.
they are also like the loudest tank in the game... makes an abrams sound quiet
The bill is insane tho idk if they’ve changed since you made your comment tho
I remember one tapping several Russian top tier tanks with the UH-1B with the AGM-22
Is Swedish tank worth grinding
Swedish rank 4 to 6 are good to use....anything under rank 4 are a pain to grind.
20:28 spawn campers, pisses me off a lot... (continues to raid enemy spawn)
I hate planes in ground rb.
Im confused Sweden doesn't use this
They we’re tested for a trial but it didn’t enter service
if there is any country that is suffers is really sweden.
high repair costs and worst thing then others really bad lineups.
but the AA is probebly the best in the entire game
They both lost, the MI-28 had lack in guides and the apache could be defeated by the strv 121 before the apache could do so to the strv so they send them both back.
The official Swedish Army Aviation
Centre report on the evaluation stated that the Mi-28's weapons accuracy
was "good and astonishingly repeatable," particularly taking into
account the range of firing parameters and poor weather conditions. Both
9M1154Shturmand 9M120 Ataka guided missiles were fired against
stationary targets (to a maximum range of 4680 m/15,354 ft, with the Mi-28
flying at 200 km/h, 124 mph IAS), with 1-m (3.3-ft) accuracy. Rockets were
found to be accurate up to a range of 4000m (13,123ft), with 35 hits
registered from 40 firings. Four unexploded rockets were later found
and questions were raised about the production quality and safety standards
of Russian ammunition. Gun firings were unsuccessful due to bad
boresighting. The Mi-28 was flown for a total of
30 hours, never failed to undertake a mission, and experienced the minimum of technical snags.
Also In the end Sweden would not buy attack helicopters as the 2001 defence budget did not allow it. The Swedish government decided to downgrade the Swedish military to an almost non existent force as the cold war was over.
@@f7thesilentdemon799 They have been reinvesting since 2018 if I remember correctly. Stridsfordons getting their midlife upgrades, stridsvagns are getting a midlife upgrade.
@@yatsie3635 uhuh but this is about a attack helicopter not entering because of budget cuts in 2001
@@f7thesilentdemon799 Well why did they do trials if they didnt even have the money. And that message was to create some context on the subject, you know. “To end it”
12:28 As someone who owns this vehicle, it does that shit all the time, I have no clue why, even when you’re not at high speed, if you turn it sharp it’ll just barrel roll
Because it has no wings and its going to fast
The Tiger UHT needs a buff, completely outclassed.
Would also be nice to see a new 10-10.7 German heli
What a mad man grinding heli tech tree
@@soto1649 wasn’t worth it, especially without premium. If anyone is reading this, go into Brit (fastest best to get a real top tier heli) or go into USSR if you want your heli grinding pain to really pay off
To all the people that argue about that no swedish pilot fly the Havoc because in the trials they were piloted by russians:
Perhaps Gaijin know more then we, some secret documents were found, and there is a beautiful love story of a russian Havoc pilot and a swedish mechanic that really wanted to fly.
The go out for a dinner after a hard day of trials, get a bit drunk and then hoped in for a romantic Havov ride together.
The swedish mechanic were instructed and allowed to fly the Havoc by his future significant other and he flown like a god.
But then both governments get informed about what happend, and because we are in the 90s,doesn't wanna support a gay helicopter couple.
So they agreed to just give up the trials, sweden accepted that it doesn't get a attack chopper.
Both man couldn't live without the other and so they moved far away, where their is more acceptance for gay couples - Berlin.
Anyway, this could be the lost information that let Gaijin put a helicopter in the swedish tree that never was flown by a swede - kind of.
Brings tears to my eyes
If you think Mi-28A is OP, have a look at the British G-LYNX!
Same BR (10.0), 8 hellfires with 1100 mm penetration at 8 km range, AIM 92s and THERMALS! And it's 1410 GE cheaper.
"I am happy I did that, don't spawncamp, it pisses me off a lot"
Continues to spawncamp the enemy team. Ok chief.
I find it unusual that I must explain this.
Spawn pushing once the map and points have been taken. When you have the advantage to turn the game, you camp the enemy Spawn instead, that's the issue at hand.
He means when people just camp your spawn when your winning with all the objectives. If you have all the objectives your pretty much spawn pushing at that point to end the game faster by bleeding their tickets. Funny enough spawn pushing so early causes a lot of losses for your team.
@@JustinPlaysTV So them knowing it's over and wanting points is scummy but pushing their teeth in when you have the upper hand isn't.
Idunno man sounds like some hypocrisy.
There are times you don't own all the caps and you still end up on their spawn and shooting them man like, it's ok. But calling other people for doing it is kind of ass backwards. Like your recent BMP2M video where your team doesn't yet own the majority and you're still killing people in their spawn. It happens man. Just don't be a dickhole when other people do it to your team.
This whole argument about "spawn pushing" and "spawn camping" just sounds like amazing copium from people who get mad when it happens to them but say it's okay when they do it.
Camping their spawn and foraging points on the respawns who can barely do shit is totally ok and not a dick move.
The two guys who somehow ended up on your side of the map knowing the game is over and cannot do shit about the armada around their spawn foraging for points on yours, now that's being a dick.
Where is the logic in that. That they should just quit? Try a push on the caps that's gonna give their position away and either nuked by planes or choppers, perhaps have half your team turn around and slaughter them? Push your team that's spawncamping and have a bunch of barrels turn around at them? Or is it understandable that they instead go to your spawn to farm the few points remaining in the game much like your team is doing? Them being alive isn't gonna make the capture point bleed any slower.
Again man, explain your logic to me cus it genuinely just sounds like copium.
Just sold me on this heli
No hate, but this just makes me sad to see what WT has become. Helis and ATGMs and all that jazz kinda wrecked this game for me.
So he spawn kills 2 vehicles with a helicopter. And then a couple games later complains about tanks that were in his spawn and says "don't do that". This dude is so hypocritical. I cant be the only one getting irritated about it
Mi 28A sucks since it lacks thermals and it only gets killed by its newer Russian counterparts............ since they have better optics and better missiles....
It should not be higher there is much better helicopters at the same tier....
That's why i quited playing russian 9.7, they don't stand a chance against Swedish and NATO tanks. I got to russian 11.0 and it is way better there, finnaly I feel like I can fight fairly and win some battles
Hates spawn campers! Proceeds to engage enemy SPAAG on its spawn with the helicopter. LOL
Honestly, all is fair.
come on bro....relax on the spawn camping
Stock dart garbage, expensive 173mm pen dart = enough post-penetration effect to one-shot. This game?
A-129i can take itself down without striking any geometry or player vehicle, that's the reason it's 10.0 but oof this even though it lacks thermals. Hell naw. Makes AH64As look overtiered.
Apache didnt win either
What heli won?
@@CR-db9im no one Sweden Decides not to chose the apache or the havoc instead they modernized they helicopter fleet
@@ikill-98 no the apache did won it was just not bought because of budget cuts
First
+L
The problem is not the helicopter itself it is that the average player is braindead. It dosent matter if it is CAS och helicopters, people still spawn in jets and go after tanks. Instead of quickly clearing out the biggest threat. Braindead Thunder.
can someone buy me the t72 turms:)
Go work