The Leclerc Gets BUFFED! - Leclerc SXXI - War Thunder
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- The Leclerc SXXI, the latest and greatest of the French! But is there more to it than we currently see?
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France being considered a minor nation is entirely gaijin's doing. They made it so few can afford to grind up the tech tree (even now) and the nation is stuck in a negative feedback loop as long as gaijin uses the SL and player stats combo to balance vehicles. The nation has a ton of vehicles left to be implemented and the current tech tree doesn't reflect it's potential.
china is on the exact same boat
@@sheevpalpatine7588 not really, china is getting a lot of vehicles and in another year its tech tree will be comparable to the major 3
@@sheevpalpatine7588 No ? China is an entire another problem. Their tech tree is a lot of copy/paste, but it's understandable, and they get the best vehicles out of usa and Russia. Their TT isn't filled with entire lineups with 30k+ repair cost, and they got many vehicles over the last updates.
France doesnt get a lot of love because the people who play it seem to use their brains more which makes france have much much higher stats than any other nation, this leads to gaijin thinking they are OP in some way so they increase repair costs or some other shit.
As a french main its taken me 2 and a half years of pain and torture from gaijin to get to top tier, Was it worth it?
I really wish Gaijin gave the Leclerc its AZUR armour kit - it would’ve been a really neat addition, and would’ve given some extra protection against HEAT-FS and ATGMs. Oh, and how can we forget about the OFL F2?
As you surely know, OFL F2 is too op for the meta 😅
@@zora007 right, but the DM53 isn't apparently
@@zora007 Crunching the numbers with their own calculator, it would be around the performance of dm53/63 (same round, different powder between 53 and 63)
They probably will add it later as a modification, same happened to the t64b and t72b
@@zora007 you do realize dm53 would have upwards of 800mm of pen irl, but gaijin makes sure to balance this in game, this thing would alsp face a similar nerf and fhis would be clear if you have looked at any of the top end war thunder apfsds rounds in the game, how is this thing op when the 2a6 has been in the game for over a year now when no other nation had even a close equivalent?
France : *Is the 3rd biggest weapon seller in the world* *has more boat, tanks, planes prototypes than any other nations because they litterally invented planes and tanks*
France in War Thunder : Hurr Durr MiNoR NaTiON
Did they?
@@georgethakur The planes part I am not sure. But with them inventing tanks well the British invented the first tank but the French created the first modern tank with the Renault FT.
@@No-xv1fp I think france made the first concept of a tank based of a citroen van. it had thin armor allover, and a machine gun turret. yes this was before the mark 1 and the first world war.
The first plane was flown in France, but it's inventor was a Brazilian guy named Alberto Santos Dumont
UK invented tanks and USA/Brazil invented the plane (depending on who you ask). Santos Dumont (the brazilian who invented the plane if you take that position) only made his maiden flight ib Paris. Are you high?
France, a nation that has created more vehicle and planes than Germany pre and post WWII is the minor nation in that era while Germany is the major. France deserve to be consider a major nation.
France is only worse at propaganda
I would say France is currently in a better spot regarding Ground Battles compared to Germany.
Leclerc SXXI, Leclerc S2 and Leclerc S1, vs Leopard 2A6 and Leopard 2A5…
@@CallmeRoth Don't forget that gaijin relies on players stats a lot so because france mains use their brain more than the average wehraboo gaijin thinks france is OP
@@SpanishAvenger 2pl as well and the best French light tank in game is 8.3 without a stab meanwhile Germany has tam2c, rad, aa is about even and Germany has better cas with the f4f with mavericks and uht which is way better than the had. Idk how u can say France is in a better place
@@CallmeRoth Cope.
Justin out here getting a nuke in every video 😂
"Gaijin over did the jet engines"
Speaking as someone who works 1 mile from the runway of RAF Marham, which is the home of the F35's of the RAF, i can positively tell you, no they haven't lol.
I was literally thinking about how he's just finally getting sick of the sound of war.
When I was at that exact part lol.
France, along with China, are one of two nations in-game that have so many potential but are being developed sooooo slowly. France has a lot of IFVs and wheelie bois but we hardly see any of them in-game save for the 10RC. look at China too? it's been 2+ years since their release and boom, no IFV past 7.3 and 11.0 ground vehicle? lololol
Shrugs unfortunate tbh lol.
Thank god we got Israel though
china has so much shit now they're starting to really infest 8.3 and up
Gaijin needs to give the S2 and XXI the depleted uranium round they had available! That was their problem when they added the S2. Sure they desperately needed a backup but they still could have went ahead and given it the better round. Now they add the S21 and still no better round which was available along side the S2.
Shame on Gaijin. Why add almost copies for a total of 3 without any noteworthy differences. It’s a waist of time for everyone
S21 had different new rounds from S1 and S2. It entered service with the 120 Fx-B series (+50% penetrator from 120 Fx-A series)
you said it yourself, France needed a lineup.
About firing from the commander sight, if you have a laser rangefinder, you can range your target, and the centre cross will be where your shell will land, negating the sight offset
There's still offset, maybe some convergence/divergence at a certain range
Saw Justin in a match today. That's one thing I love about WarThunder; how you can end up playing with some of your favorite UA-camrs in-game. Great match, btw!
I am a minor tech tree main so to speak with a lack of better words. I love the LeClerc MBT line even if this one is way to most painful grind.
i cant believe the official skin they released is that weird desert camo and not this iconic "tromp la mort" in the 3 tone CARC
For the jet sounds, just had a thunderbird air show and they are so loud i think they are spot on
It's fine, you can't remember everyone's name, happy you enjoyed the skin now I can notice something happened to my camo on the left side on the lfp (looking at it from the front in the hangar) which I shall fix, a slight fault had to look really close to see that lol great video though for sure! ;D ♥
Goddamn the Nuclerc bringing it back from the depths
One of the biggest military in the world
It's considered a minor nation
The Leclercs are great but missing something.
It's either a little bit more firepower, or mobility, or armor ... But they're definitely missing something to become one of the best MBTs in the game. Sure, they're good as of right now, but not as competitive as the Leo 2s, Abrams or STRV-122s.
I'd love to see it get the 5 seconds reload it should historically get. It would definitely justify it still having a 575mm in 2022.
Yeah it should just get a 5 second reload considering it sacrifices its loader for an autoloader. As well if you ace the top NATO 120mm tanks they have a 6 second reload regardless.
@@Kwisss Yeah, on a NATO MBT, sacrifying a crew member for a 6 seconds autoloader is kind of a bad trade in my opinion.
I got my first nuke today in a 2a6, loveley game with finally some good teammates
Also the jet sounds are realistic. Maybe could be a bit quieter for gameplay sake but my only complaint is the fact you KNOW they are gonna change then again and ruin it
Currently grinding France, glad to see there is a good tank to top it all off.
Trust me…there’s no fun in grinding out literally the same thing 3 times
While the S21 is 1 more addition to the French top tier tree it doesn't offer any different from the previous MBTs, the only difference may be the panoramic CITV but it doesn't matter to be fair.
@@raizencore well you cant be penned at the gunner location in the SXXI by DM53 and M829A2 which is something other Leclerc suffer from.
They should add hull break to helis
I love the new jet sounds but i can’t hear anything they re too loud
9:30 lol 😂😂😂
It was indeed a Cary for the second video lol. But great vid/game!
Well… it’s definitely better than an Ariete
When these roll up in ground assault arcade nobody knows where to shoot them.They roll right in and it is a loss every time.
Holy, watched before ten minute after posting
That exhaust seem counterintuitive
If your talking about how its pointed upwards = thermal. In real life its often pointed downward instead.
6:48 "is it really a down tier though?"
I mean maybe people only have one 11.7, but people first spawn in XM-1's, a 9.3, so
*Psst.*
_It is I, Leclerc!_
That was a carry Justin in the nuke match as a member of your JPs2v squad with the name Randomtask1680 I’ve carried at least one match before. I will say I don’t like carrying matches. Good work though
we should have a tank only game mode
Wait, Justin did you really bailed out ItO 90M? Damn R.I.P repair cost
I have seen Abrams’ a total of around 10 times out of my 5000 hours play time... it’s always leopard 2 and T-64 72 80 90 tanks
No waaaaayyy !!! 9:30
If only they could correct the Leclerc's UFP because atm it gets penned by 105mm APFSDS, it's ridiculous, how is this even remotly accurate. And then give the S2 and the SXXI the OFL F2. Would bring it back.
FRance could use OFL F2 for AMX 30, 40, 56's to compete
jet sounds are fine, anyone that has been in a airshow knows how fucking loud those things are
Just as well, I'm pretty sure people who complain about jets being too loud are the ones who adjust the sound volumes in the menu for the purpose of trying to gain an advantage.
@@oranmcdougall2650 and if the hate the jet sounds so much just lower the volume
hey justin great vid i finished spading my f4c and grinding for f4e :D
I wish they would just give hen 2 or 3 thermals to all tanks that have thermals. The abrams has horrible thermals it makes you not want to play them
yes can't wait for the TCM AGS
video
I just got the first leclerc and have been struggling to learn it, but stock grind isn’t helping either
DAMN, THAT PLOIT IS PISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS LOL
Shame it doesn't get a new round, Japan got a new MBT with a new shell as well, now of course Japan was kind of obsolete so it deserved that big buff but so does France, Gaijin should stop pretending the OFL F2 doesn't exist, even the M1A2/Leopard 2A5 received a buff and it wasn't necessary.
I don't have any US merkavas and don't play the UK so in your opinion do you think Israel will suffer Chieftain/Challenger syndrome in upper/higher tier games with their main MBT line being the Merkavas? I know we won't really know til we get our hands on the full tech tree/line ups but would appreciate your thoughts.
I do believe they will suffer, Israeli tanks and IFV’s are all defensive weapons, same as the UK. It’s all about crew survivability and firepower, not mobility.
It’s the reason I believe they should not be there own tree, more like an extension of another tree like South Africa.
merk 4 has 1500hp and citv. how will it suffer
merk 4 will be competitive with its better engine rating.
It’s all about power per ton, the mk4 might have a more powerful engine, but it’s also heavier I believe. Also we do have to wait and see what they add to the tech tree, and how they’ll act in game because how they act IRL and how they act in-game are two very different things.
i have the XXI it is worthless i have it in ACE but its sabot ammo is so bad and in the regular same ammo hit even harder a huge warthunder bug
This is great
Justin can you make a tier list of all top tier mbt?
this thing should be way better but now the leclercs are just the 2nd worst top tier MBTs besides the ariete. The armor layout is worse than any other mbt at 11.0, the mobility is nothing to scream about, the reload should be 5 seconds on the SXXI, turret rotation not the greatest. It's honestly sad how these tanks could be way better but aren't
The autloloader was not changed.
You forgot challenger is worst mbt
love the vids!!!
Poor France, China, and italy
Sick jet kill 😎
Minor nation with the most expensive and probably well protected tank? at elast in real life, then theres Gaijin.
Heeeeeloooooo my man.
I was wondering, if you are planning on doing a vid about the M48 Super (again x2) since its now at 9.0
any achievement for getting a Nuke?? like decal or decor
the leclerc is missing ofl 120 f2
Did you buy most of your vehicle in the game?
Hey man, can you do a video with E-100
Just give it F1B and 5 second reload then its good
Got any sources for F1B performances, i can't find anything other than the old F1 and F2.
@@nicolaspeigne1429 Nah…but as Justin had stated gayjin could give it fictitious number that is on par with DM53 or M829A2 fired from L44 or maybe slightly bigger
@@nathanwong5644 OK, i'd rather go with the f2 with known performances in this case, largely comparable to DM53 anyway, if not superior. I'd want a HE shell for the memes too. As for the 5s reload, if they give it to one Leclerc, they can give it to all Leclercs.
F1B is literally the same penetrator and same performances as the F1, except with "MURAT" powder charge that is less sensitive to being shot at.
The loading computer didn't even need an update to account for it, it's just an F1 with a different powder charge.
@@lsq7833 So it’s basically the relationship between DM53 and DM63…sorry not all too familiar with French tank shells…I guess F2 is the better performing round then
Nice video👍👍👍
YOU CANT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NEW SOUNDS BRUH they are so good, they finally sound realistic
what do u do to have such good quality nvd?
*_C'mon, gaijin, give the Leclerc its AZUR armor package already_*
-Me, 2 years ago. Theres a dent in my forehead somewhere from the amount of times I've face palmed from gaijins decisions. Glad I stopped maining this game. _Very, very glad._
About those challies, i love the design of th tank but the TES and ERA upgrades for the tanks ruin them for me. I just got my first challie 2 and havent taken it out but i wanna know does the armor upgrade bring in substantual help other than reducing mobility?
The side protection will help a bit against chemical rounds very rarely even APFSDS or ATGMs but most of the time it will not make such a huge difference.
Why has war thunder not taken their game and made a rts like wargame red dragon?
Mars-15 nuke when?
What about the nerf to neutral steering that that isn't historical. Gaijin really hates France
Grinding 3 times the same tank and having "a lineup" feel useless. Don’t get me wrong, this tank is fun to play and I still love it but I think France should get more light tanks. Like the AMX 10P as an IFV and the NEXTER VEXTRA as a stabilized wheeled gun. Btw love your camo on the SXXI
If Gaijin can gives us the VEXTRA with the TML 105 turret or the POLE turret with the 120 FER, then all is forgiven.
Russian mains grinding the same tank 4 or 5 times firts time?
@@nicolaspeigne1429 the POLE turret is only a testbed for the gun. It didn't even have any optics or fcs.
@@LegionNoFace They're not really the same though each have their own individual play styles.
@@Kwisss t72a,t72b,t72b-89,t72b3 same tank just more erra or extra, to t72b3 new thermal and ammo, but same weak spots and bas mobility.
N O I I C E ! ! 👍🏼👍🏼
Ah yes Leclerc SeXXI
i love the vid
How much do those actors charge you?
Evolving Environment = Power Creep. Always gotta have something better, can't just set a standard.
How do I get your custom decal on ps4?
You don't, sadly :(
Atleast not yet.
@@JustinPlaysTV okay thanks 😊. gaijin should sell all the content creators Decals in game, like they sell camouflage, concealment, and other decors in game and give the proceeds to you guys. I'd love to help you guys out while buying in game GE.
Going into 2022, servers still suck. Random packet loss, and ping jumps into 150+.
Gaijin fucking fix this soon, its been a fucking year. Even EU server are taking a hit
I'd like to greet cool_jaz from your squadron. 🙂🙂
The BEST Tank in the World 🇨🇵🇨🇵🇨🇵💪💪💪🇨🇵❤️🇺🇦
i would like to know what drugs EXACTLY are you using when you said the Leclerc is a very good all around tank or MBT? 40 mm od armor around the gun ( a HUGE BIG BOX OF 40 mm). Meaning you get one shot all the time though the gun mantlet because the round goes directly to the ammo storage behind it. I died at least 100 times this way in any Leclerc. IT has absolutely no Hull armor and fat useless side cheeks that no one EVER SHOOTS AT. No chemical protection for ATGMS and that huge commander sight is a one shot chance for any heat fs or HE round. As someone who has over 3k hours in WT i can honestly say that the Leclerc alongside Ariete is the worst MBT in the game... hands down , not even close. i would even say that Ariete is better cause if you play hull down you cant get one shot through the turret in Ariete because all the ammo is low in the hull. With the Leclerc i get one shot(ammo rack) through the gun ALL THE TIME because there is 70 mm of armor altogether to get to the ammo storage.
The leclerc is very good and quite fun with his mobility, I Always play it like a light tank because of the weak point in the armor. It's might not suit your playstyle, that Would explain why you seem to do so poorly with it
@@Grassouillelafripouille first of all UNLIKE you i dont assume anything, only idiots do. Second i have 3:1 kill to death ratio on all of my leclercs . If thats poor you need to go back to arcade or world of tanks. Thirdly there is a huge difference in hitting a weak spot that is a size of 2-4 pixels on a screen and shooting basically anywhere you want( thats how bad leclercs armour is). T80 bvm and any abrams version are just as mobile as leclerc is but offer more survivability(protection and armour) . Playstyle has got nothing to do with facts. Fact is Leclerc is a very bad tank COMPARED TO OTHER MBTs. in fact many agree its the worst MBT in the game right now. Sure any MTB can be played to perfection but regarding armor, firepower, mobility , turret rotation speed ,sight ( zoom and thermals quality) leclerc is by far the worst tank out there design anbd armor wise . Thermals dont give you any edge at all, firepower is the same as others. Also the only tank i oen shot all the time when playing other nations is the Leclerc. EVERY SINGLE TIME.
@@gugi233 my bad, I thought you were doing poorly. I wasn't trying to be mean sorry, I shouldn't have said it like that. To be honest I agree with you, while a good tank compared to other MBT it's not as powerful (even if for the Armor is alright). I just thought you were saying it was bad
I rate the Leclerc as the 4th best MBT in the game. The best being T80BVM, second being M1A2, Third being Leopard 2A6, 4th being...any kind of Leclerc really. Leclerc dies as easily as any other nato MBT save for the STRV 122 but that thing is more of a boat than a tank. It's a good tank with its weaknessed, what trully kills it is the wrongly modelled UFP... Hopefully the day this will be fixed, it'll be one of the best, if not the best tank in the game.
@@monfortnicolas5448 i would disagree. Strv has insane armor but lacks firepower so you need to know how to shoot. ZTZ is overall better then Leclerc because it has the same speed(mobility), firepower and more armor then Leclerc. Even the Challenger 2 is better because it can soak up so much damage in top tier. The top 3 tanks are always going to be GER/RUSSIA AND USA for everyone. My Favorite was always Leo 2A6. Ariete and Leclerc are the worst 2 MBTs in the game and i have all top tier tanks unlocked . I have 3:1 KDD with all of my Leclercs and i still strongly believe that it is the worst MBT in the game. Leclerc is the only MBT in the game that can be ONE SHOT frontally through the turret ( huge gun box). Ammo rack every single time. Ive personally killed so many Leclercs this way im happy when im playing against france cause its a easy one shot. Just aim in the upper right or left corner of the box and its a insta kill. Its basically a type 10 but wih a 6 second reload. If i wanted to play a tank with no armor i would rather play type 10 then the leclerc. Until that huge turret box around the gun is fixed it will always be the worst tank in the game because no matter how much armor you give it you can still ammo rack through the gun mantlet every single time... 70 mm of protection. The only tank in the game that can be one shot through the turret no matter if you are hull down or not. so hiding behind rocks and mountains and peeking/shooting around corners/hills is the only way to play this tank somewhat effectively .
Hey Justin just a suggestion - I believe you should make your vids have more fun factor. Right now they're serious breakdowns of vehicles and gameplay, but anyone could analyse a vehicle in their hangar and play it - you need to make more reason to watch YOU do that. Maybe funny edits and memes, maybe find your own niche among other UA-camrs. It needs to be entertainment. You have a quality set up and are very comfortable with making videos - it's time to take it up to the next level. Not trying to be toxic, rather give feedback. Anyone else any thoughts?
Give it its proper pen, OFL f1 600mm, give it its OFL F2 at 690mm , at the proper range (wich are available in almost any article on the internet from wikipedia to the tank enciclopédia by the way gaijin), give it its outstanding mobility and acceleration that is also available everywhere, and you won't need 17 versions of it except for upcoming up armored XLR. France is out BR'd Out repair costed Out almost everything in that shit game. Last bit of fun was the EBR 51 thrown to 4.7 when the M-24 is still 3.7 for another shitty reason (just shove that excel sheets up your.....). ("at last we give you a regular tech tree EBR but appart being a WT genius or just using the goggles, you won't make much of it because you'll face 5.7 monster armor that U won't be able to scratch beyong 150 meters, 75% of your games, with no other tank to follow, so deal with it frogs). We have almost no complete line up in the "real fun" zone, our "real" vehicles are still on the bench while we get stuff that we never had. where are the M4a1 76, M47 Amx 13 twin 30mm SPAA, m26, m46 m-24. We don't ask for the moon, just to be treated like a regular not suffering nation in the game.
i dont think that was a carry you only got kills
when you act surprised that you got a nuke in one of the best tanks, whilst ping abusing and having nearly 10k hours
Ping abusing?
Tf is ping abusing lol
no, its not a buff, we need f2, we need more powerful Maneuver,why lec is more expensive than lepo2A6!!!!why!!!!
Why do you always sy they are not actors. I dont think anyone thinks that so what are you trying to hide ? Lol
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Definitely paid actors
Poor france suffer
Showoff
Germany has like the smallest top tier line in the game for ground