Do Casinos Ever Cheat?

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  • @MrVohveli
    @MrVohveli 3 місяці тому +260

    "We have the house advantage legitimately, why would we bother cheating?" is the answer I got when I was trained as dealer.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk Місяць тому +15

      exactly.

    • @capoman1
      @capoman1 Місяць тому +33

      Further, the concept of a cheating dealer REQUIRES the dealer to establish the scam, for instance stacking the deck and knowing which cards are on bottom of the deck. We as dealers have zero access to the face of the cards while shuffling, and we are on camera 24/7.

    • @lanky2592
      @lanky2592 Місяць тому +8

      tbf, these guys are talking back in the days where we had people on the roof instead of cameras. Much easier to cheat, both as a player or dealer back then.

    • @WackoMcGoose
      @WackoMcGoose 28 днів тому +15

      Literally this. The dealer is mathematically destined to win in the long term, why would they _need_ to do anything beyond that? If players think they have no chance at even short-term wins, they just won't play at your table.

    • @AttackHelicopter64
      @AttackHelicopter64 16 днів тому

      yep
      and I'm not even mentioning slot machines

  • @JasonEngland
    @JasonEngland Рік тому +367

    The most incredible thing about this video is how Colin and his editor managed to make an old man that hasn't practiced nearly enough in recent years look good. Thanks guys! If anyone has any questions about any of the stuff shown here I can take a stab at answering.

    • @Sawkii
      @Sawkii Рік тому

      Im new and i played some games i won and loss some if i play more i will win more or what is the difference btwn someone new and expert? And what makes me expert?

    • @sjrey1101
      @sjrey1101 10 місяців тому +1

      I come from the magic world and Jason is a freaking legend

    • @manp1039
      @manp1039 5 місяців тому

      i am guessing that if a supervisor seeing some unusual play.. perhaps looks like dealer is cheating to cause friends to win. they will swap out the dealer.. And they might do this on a regular basis to make that kind of activity less valuable?? and create difficulties.. and if the players leave for another table after the dealer swap.. it might give them additional clues that there was collaboration with the dealer? and they might identify all the players and flag them with that particular dealer and any time they are playing with that dealer again they might pay extra attention??

    • @Legalisenuclearbombs
      @Legalisenuclearbombs Місяць тому

      Loved your insight

  • @detrovich8708
    @detrovich8708 9 місяців тому +223

    As a dealer I’m team card counting all the way. We often can get an idea if someone is counting based off the fluctuations in bets. As long as you tip we won’t say a word.

    • @GamesPlayer1337
      @GamesPlayer1337 9 місяців тому +32

      If i were a dealer i wouldnt say a word regardless.

    • @ImGettinWeird
      @ImGettinWeird 7 місяців тому +19

      ​@@GamesPlayer1337 I wouldn't either. Id prefer you tipped but if you didn't , I still don't care if you're thinking about what cards already came out in your head

    • @bajorekjon
      @bajorekjon 6 місяців тому +8

      Card counting isn't illegal

    • @7521eric
      @7521eric 5 місяців тому +7

      Doesn't the pit boss notice when your table is paying out more than the others?

    • @eightinnn
      @eightinnn 5 місяців тому

      @@7521ericcard counting only pays a little bit per hour. Most average counters will be making between 20-40 an hour counting cards on a good table

  • @kimtrickster52
    @kimtrickster52 Рік тому +77

    Jason England is one of the, if not the most, respected game protection experts today. It is truly exciting to see him on this channel!

  • @igorsvacic217
    @igorsvacic217 Рік тому +10

    Jason is such an inspiration to magicians all over the world. Among the very few on top with Turner, Scarne, Wilson, Ortiz. The handfull of greatest card mechanics on the planet.

  • @chuckzamzow
    @chuckzamzow Рік тому +50

    When I was a dealer in 1993 - we would fan the cards on an empty table. The only thing we were ever told as far as cheating - was that we might be told to knock the shoe on the floor if the table was ever getting hammered. - Jackpot Junction Casino.

    • @robertjonez5
      @robertjonez5 Рік тому +1

      There's no so thing as a deck hammering the casino lol

    • @tmtmtlsml
      @tmtmtlsml Рік тому +38

      @@robertjonez5 That doesn't stop management from trying it anyway. I overheard a pit boss say that if a high limit table was getting killed, they would switch out dealers and cards to break up the "momentum". Does it make logical sense? No. But the reason they do it is to show *their* supervisors that they noticed that a table was losing money and they tried SOMETHING. It's completely performative.
      Source: high limit dealer for 3 years

    • @robertjonez5
      @robertjonez5 Рік тому +12

      @@tmtmtlsml that's crazy, if anything it's to give the impression to players that it makes a difference, when it doesn't. It's like firing a dealer for losing too much, they literally have no control over the cards haha

    • @tmtmtlsml
      @tmtmtlsml Рік тому +12

      @@robertjonez5 I think everyone involved knows (or should) that sometimes the cards just come out in the players' favor for long stretches. The dealers never get punished for it. Pit bosses just want to avoid the impression that they didn't realize a table lost a lot of money, and shift supervisors want to be confident that the pit bosses are on top of everything in their sections

    • @chuckzamzow
      @chuckzamzow Рік тому

      @@tmtmtlsml - with card counting you are looking for a shoe that is rich with tens towards the back half - this is a physical placement of cards in the stack. I guess I find it hard to believe that some people don't believe that the cards can become arranged by chance that they favor the player.

  • @TRICKYA100
    @TRICKYA100 Рік тому +31

    Ive been practicing card counting for the past month. Finished Colins book last week. This video had me scared until Colin said he wasnt already about cheating since Blackjack is already rigged lol. Cant wait to be a BJA member!!!

    • @BabyGangsterIsMe
      @BabyGangsterIsMe 5 місяців тому

      card couting wont help u ... they control the card and there is noway u can win bc it is like TV and the control

  • @selteacher
    @selteacher 5 місяців тому +16

    What is the point, at least in the large corporate owned casinos of trying to cheat like this? Does the dealer have any incentive to do so?

    • @2AForever-wi8yj
      @2AForever-wi8yj Місяць тому +1

      None Unless they are working in cahoots with someone and they will get caught. The casino will watch and document each case until a certain level is reached and then come down and arrest your ass while you are at the table.

  • @katewild2194
    @katewild2194 Рік тому +28

    I was a dealer back in the day in the u.k and I could do lots of things to cheat players I was never told to cheat players and as far as I can remember never did we always felt from a shoe.

  • @YouTubePhilosopher
    @YouTubePhilosopher 9 днів тому +1

    I worked in a uk casino and can tell you they don’t cheat. One time a game of brag was played all night with 51 cards. When they counted the cards at the end of the night and realised the mistake they had to go through all the CCTV footage and reimburse the players. This was back when you had to give your name and address as a member so was easy to get the money back to the customers.

  • @juanmalone8053
    @juanmalone8053 Рік тому +14

    Nice video ! Remember, this is basically for information and a trip down memory lane. It doesn't really happen these days, note the end of the video. Also the fact that since the pandemic, and also with more things happening in Las Vegas, dealers are making really good money. Certainly not worth the risk to lose a job.

  • @tmtmtlsml
    @tmtmtlsml Рік тому +47

    At the casino I dealt at, most of these cheating methods are impossible due to how we were trained. For example, on the multicolor payout, we have to separate all the colors and then pay accordingly. If we were to try to pay in one stack such as in the video and there was a question about the payout being correct, we'd *at minimum* get written up for paying out a multicolor stack like that. If anything, this video shows that players should pay attention to how disciplined/casual dealers are. If they're too relaxed about things like payouts (especially at the $100+ level) then it's could be a sign of something bigger like management apathy to running a clean game

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому +9

      Yeah, did you make it to the end of the video? I don’t think dealers are cheating players.

    • @tmtmtlsml
      @tmtmtlsml Рік тому +7

      @@Blackjackapprenticeship Oh of course. I didn't mean to suggest that the video is claiming casinos are still doing things like this. I just find it interesting to see the differences in casino operations between the mob days where these things were more common, and today, where high-def cameras are everywhere and casinos are held accountable for this sort of dishonest behavior.

    • @toowiseforyou
      @toowiseforyou Рік тому +3

      ​​@@BlackjackapprenticeshipLong ago, there used to be card mechanics, who cheated players.
      I cannot say what happened to them, but they did not simply disappear by magic.

    • @Atarah-t9v
      @Atarah-t9v Рік тому +4

      I stopped playing blackjack when I noticed the casinos shorting the decks of 10s, Aces and faces. It’s rigged !!!!

    • @gargoyle7863
      @gargoyle7863 Рік тому

      A cheating casino is a broke casino. They're on the road to 'out of business'. Can't imagine a casino can survive substantial rumors about tampered BJ tables.

  • @chuckecheese4124
    @chuckecheese4124 Рік тому +5

    Outstanding video from one of the world's experts, Thanks Colin!

  • @PeterMoore-q5k
    @PeterMoore-q5k 10 місяців тому +4

    I was on the Cunard Queen Elizabeth about 10 years ago. The last night of the cruise they removed all the queens from the shoes - and TOLD US. Like it was some kind of fun gimmick. And idiots still played at that table.

  • @jangrzenkowicz9850
    @jangrzenkowicz9850 Рік тому +24

    Awesome video! I have a suggestion for the whole BJA community - a discord server. I think it would be great if a BJA server was created where aspiring card counters and blackjack enthusiasts could chat, give advice, look for teams, etc.

    • @CaptainFrandy
      @CaptainFrandy Рік тому

      Sign me up! I would love a discord server for this

    • @CaptainFrandy
      @CaptainFrandy Рік тому

      @shunkisdrunk it wouldn’t have to be. Keep it open to the public and share the knowledge. Or have two, one free and one paid.
      No need to gatekeep

    • @CaptainFrandy
      @CaptainFrandy Рік тому +1

      @@Blackjackapprenticeship just members? No free discord server possible in the future?

    • @anteem3055
      @anteem3055 Рік тому

      I think they f do o have something like that...?..

    • @anteem3055
      @anteem3055 Рік тому

      I don't know- now i have to worry about this??? 🙄

  • @paulklemer
    @paulklemer Рік тому +60

    Colin about to have a heart attack thinking back that he might have been cheated in all these ways when he was a pro blackjack player

    • @wesch6354
      @wesch6354 Рік тому +7

      No. These things just don't happen. They are all things from the 60's and 70's. Maybe the 80's some. But policies and procedures all but eliminated these cheats to create a fair clean game. I'm coming from around a decade of experience as a dealer and floor. All of these techniques would be spotted instantly and the dealer would lose his/her gaming license. The most common cheats today are when dealer over pay players to earn more tips. Casinos today won't give a dealer anything for taking money from players (I would know I was a cooler lol.) So dealers are incentivized by paying players to earn tips.

    • @MrTi-ej4vr
      @MrTi-ej4vr Рік тому +2

      They DO HAPPEN. I KNOW FOR A FACT AND AM LOOKING FOR HELP GETTING MY STOLEN LOSSES BACK AND TAKING DEALER LICENSES AWAY FROM THE CHEATERS. IT IS A CRIME!!!

  • @sylthaya7571
    @sylthaya7571 Рік тому +1

    6:59-7:01
    if ur dealer hesitates while riffling hes without a doubt trying to peek the riffle for information, or to position the cards a certain way

  • @mr.deadman1973
    @mr.deadman1973 Рік тому +2

    23 years ago, the local casino near me got busted have 2 aces in a six deck shoe. They also 14 of their poker dealers arrested for dealing to their friends and family. I lost my first hand at a table where I had my first 4 cards 4 aces in 7-card stud. Next two were queens and I get called and raised by someone with junk showing. 3 cards down to the 4-8 straight flush.

    • @allwrighty100
      @allwrighty100 Рік тому +1

      It only had 2 aces in a 6 deck shoe? Instead of 24?

  • @saroku
    @saroku Рік тому +6

    So happy you shared this!

  • @jakeoberhand3893
    @jakeoberhand3893 9 місяців тому +1

    Two things I’ve noticed with playing hand shuffled double deck for several months. The 12 hit is almost always a 10 for the player…And the first hand of the shoe the dealer will almost always show a 10 or ace. Maybe a coincidence but does seem crazy…

  • @coplonthomas6660
    @coplonthomas6660 4 місяці тому +2

    So when a dealer pushes their pinky finger inside the shoe. It is to cheat? I noticed one doing it today but she didnt do it everytime she plucked a card.

  • @kfullmer89
    @kfullmer89 Рік тому +14

    Richard Munchkin says it best.. the way casinos cheat these days is by just attempting to not pay you. This is especially true for casinos outside the U.S.
    But even here in this country we have to deal with the song and dance of “I will not cash you out without your ID.”

    • @allwrighty100
      @allwrighty100 Рік тому

      Which casinos outside the US?

    • @walteroshinsky2132
      @walteroshinsky2132 6 місяців тому

      I play mostly BJ at casio's in the US but I change tables if I am not getting mostly wimming hands, I will change tables until I do and always protect wins. When I am looking for a winning table I am usually carrying a hand full of green and red chips. When I walk by a roulette table with no bets on #32 (Jim Browns Number), I always put a red chip straight up on it . I have won this bet so many times I lost count but it has been a lot and I always walk away when I hit it. About 10 years ago I placed that exact bet in an Indian casino in Iowa. I clearly placed the bet in the middle of the number way before the sealer said "No More Bets" and a munite latter the ball landed on 32. The pit boss was watching the table and walked over and picked up my red chip and said I placed the bet too late. I asked to talk to the casino manager first who didn't show up.and then asked to file a complaint witch I did. When I came back the next day I was told my chip was touching the line of anather number and only paid me half of what they owed me. The do not like hit and run players.

    • @2AForever-wi8yj
      @2AForever-wi8yj Місяць тому

      Blame the IRS for that not the casinos

  • @wbrownshadow
    @wbrownshadow Місяць тому +1

    I’m not surprised by the shoe trick by sliding one up and getting the one underneath I figured that out years ago. My uncle back in the late 90s wanted to be a Las Vegas Blackjack Dealer he went to school and literally told me they are taught to win almost every hand will they no cause they want the players to keep playing

  • @looperx
    @looperx 3 місяці тому +1

    I noticed 11:07 where you mention "cheating casinos in some countries" has the footage of Georgia. Is that a hint?

  • @gmc9753
    @gmc9753 Рік тому +14

    As a dealer, is it ever really worth losing your career by cheating? I could see trying to get rid of players that are either total stiffs or major a-holes, otherwise keep them around.

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому +13

      Agreed. Why would a dealer care in today’s casino environment? 40 years ago, before cameras, maybe the casino pays the dealer to deal seconds. But doesn’t make sense today, to the dealer or casino.

    • @paulklemer
      @paulklemer Рік тому +6

      Stiffs? Do you as a dealer tip a player when they are losing? Why should a player tip when they are winning?

    • @gmc9753
      @gmc9753 Рік тому +5

      @@paulklemer Most players tip dealers because they engage the player in conversation, give them hints on how to play, or just give good customer service. Known stiffs get the bare minimum required for the job.

    • @0wkHFL
      @0wkHFL Рік тому

      @@paulklemerat our casino, the dealers will also act as a floor/clerk at the end of our table string (table rotation.) If you’re an asshole, and want something, I might not help you out :), you’ll have to get up to get your drink, if you’re on the list for the poker board, and your name gets called, I might say the phones not working, you gotta walk over there. We make 10/hr homie. You don’t gotta tip, we just might not be nice to you😊

    • @lyricsandrythm2861
      @lyricsandrythm2861 Рік тому +1

      Online black jack is where the real cheating is 😂 bunch of b's machines set up to screw u

  • @AlphaConviction
    @AlphaConviction 2 місяці тому +1

    This was *INCREDIBLY* fascinating

  • @Vidarr90
    @Vidarr90 Рік тому +3

    I want to start trying to count but the local casinos near me all use automatic shuffling machines, is it worth counting on top of basic strategy I’ve already built up?

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому +1

      Automatic Shuffle Machines or Continuous Shuffle Machines

    • @Vidarr90
      @Vidarr90 Рік тому

      @@Blackjackapprenticeship I think it’s automatic, they just play a few hands and put the cards back into the machine but in all honesty I’m not sure of the difference between automatic and continuous machines

    • @mixedmartialanarchist6469
      @mixedmartialanarchist6469 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Vidarr90with a continuous shuffler, after every hand dealt the dealer returns those cards to the shuffler and immediately get mixed back into the shoe. Never play at those games. Automatic shufflers are fine to play at, and yes… count count count

  • @Kdawg101
    @Kdawg101 Рік тому +1

    My man! Great videos. I'm just at the beginning of memorizing basic strategy. The next step is to work on counting, then combine it all and go practice in online casinos, only then go practice in real casinos. Your app is very helpful. I was wondering if you could do more videos about how to bet during true high count. You do have some, and you do talk about protecting bank roll and about danger in chasing bets to recover losses (progressive). I just feel like there's a lot of education about basic strategy, counting, deviations, and more, - but not much about what to do about 'cherry on the cake.' Many thanks in advance.

  • @bleachforlife
    @bleachforlife Рік тому +2

    Would a dealer not want a great tipper to win so they make more money themselves? Las Vegas dealers make $10-11/hr plus tips. So just tip well so they have incentive for you to win. I did hear Resort World has a tip pool shared per shifts now so not much of an incentive anymore to tip. That’s one con for tipping more

  • @YOGESHFREEFIRE
    @YOGESHFREEFIRE 5 місяців тому +4

    Bro you should have talked about online casinos
    How they cheat
    They do only one card in hard distribution method

  • @cj_wit_the_lunch_tray3231
    @cj_wit_the_lunch_tray3231 Рік тому +2

    I remember I was playing at my local casino and I made $400 off blackjack and when I was changing my chips in the dealer didn’t count my chips correctly, I noticed something was wrong when I didn’t get the right amount I knew in my mind what I was Finna get. They replayed it on the cameras and told him to give me back 300 when I knew I gave him 400

  • @TheDjcarter1966
    @TheDjcarter1966 9 місяців тому

    Jason is the bomb, actually knew him almost 30 years ago when he was just starting out, he was amazing then and would do close up magic card tricks for us during lunch breaks and of course he is exponentially better now and has always been a student of magic and card games in general

    • @JasonEngland
      @JasonEngland 6 місяців тому

      Wow. It has indeed been almost 30 years ago. Summer of 1996 was when we met at Vandenberg. Thanks for the kind words!

  • @healingchild
    @healingchild День тому

    I was a dealer, and we had no instructions or incentives to cheat. We earned base pay, but we heavily depended on pooled tips, and we genuinely wanted players to win, so we earn tips.

  • @johnderfler5183
    @johnderfler5183 10 місяців тому +1

    Casinos don't cheat, they don't have too, all the winning odds on there side, for every table game and every slot machine on there property.

    • @GamesPlayer1337
      @GamesPlayer1337 9 місяців тому

      Besides blackjack. Its not in their favor.
      Now they minimize the risk usually by adding more and more decks and shuffling them more regularly so card counting doesnt give you as much of an edge as you had before those changes, small enough for them not to care about it anymore.
      Cause even if you count cards, most dont and lose anyway. And even if blackjack would be a slight loss, lots of blackjack players go and play other games too where the house takes it back.
      But yeah, casinos dont need to cheat. You are totally right there

  • @samuelponce1
    @samuelponce1 Рік тому +1

    9:25 I truly believe they do this over seas and in Vegas they can do it with out the dealer even knowing about it …

  • @reedr7142
    @reedr7142 Рік тому +2

    My friends got burned by cheating dealers on their cruise in the Caribbean. It took them awhile, but they finally realized the dealer was using a shoe like the one depicted in this video.

    • @2AForever-wi8yj
      @2AForever-wi8yj Місяць тому

      And they figured that out how when they were back home?

  • @VegasPaladin
    @VegasPaladin 10 місяців тому +1

    I am a dealer in Las Vegas. We don't cheat! We keep to strict procedures, and those ensure an honest game. In the past, I'm sure that cheating did happen, but these days there is no need for it. Casinos make insane amounts of money simply with the built-in house edge. Why would they risk losing their license just to make a little bit more here and there? I have heard of dealers stealing from the casino, but they are fired, and turned over to law enforcement. However, casinos in Las Vegas do increase their profits with 6 to 5 blackjack, and triple zero roulette. Of course, as a player, you should avoid these, but most tourist don't know the difference, or they just want to play so they simply accept it.

  • @MondoLeStraka
    @MondoLeStraka Рік тому +2

    Jason is incredible. Excellent video too!

  • @coryswanson2247
    @coryswanson2247 Рік тому +3

    My first thought was;
    Do dealers in the US (especially Vegas) get paid more based on how much money they make for a casino per period?
    Why would you go to such a great expense to learn how to screw people over unless it’s in your financial interest?

    • @All_is_Dust7
      @All_is_Dust7 Рік тому +1

      I'm not in Vegas, but I don't get paid more if the casino is winning. Only way I get paid more is from tips. I'm far more on the player's side than the casino.

    • @brandonkellner4053
      @brandonkellner4053 Рік тому

      @@All_is_Dust7 Yeah, dealers are more likely to cheat in the player's favor these days, but even that's kind of unlikely since the tips usually get shared.

    • @0wkHFL
      @0wkHFL Рік тому +3

      Correct, this video is so dated. I’m a blackjack dealer, we don’t get a cut of the money the house makes, we get paid 10/hr + tips we get from players. We had a girl who was fired recently for cheating in the players advantage lol.
      This video could be summed up by the last 2 minutes. It’s kinda clickbait tbh, kinda wish it was taken down.

    • @allwrighty100
      @allwrighty100 Рік тому

      Yes dealers in the US and especially Vegas get a large percentage of the casino's profits divided equally amongst them.....🤣🤣🤣

    • @brandonkellner4053
      @brandonkellner4053 Рік тому +1

      @@allwrighty100 Name a casino where this happens.

  • @יונתן-מ9י
    @יונתן-מ9י 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice content. Can I ask to check the shoe if it has a prism? Or can I ask the dealer not to touch the shoe when he is not dealing?

  • @OfutonGaming
    @OfutonGaming Рік тому +1

    I like the very last bit of the video, people who complain casino games are rigged do not understand the true nature of casino: casino system itself is a scam, you can make money "at that moment" because you are lucky "at that moment", if you don't know when to stop and lock your profit, you always lose in long run.

  • @terry_willis
    @terry_willis 11 місяців тому

    Magician was a very accurate description. That guy was smooth as silk.

  • @Zyxu1
    @Zyxu1 Рік тому +4

    I have been summoned, its been long enough.

  • @drewthecitybuilder2116
    @drewthecitybuilder2116 Рік тому +3

    When a player cheats against the casino, there are serious penalties. But it seems like when the casino cheats the player they get away with a slap on the wrist. A 50k fine I wouldn’t think would be much for a lot of casinos.

    • @mikebonannowashere
      @mikebonannowashere Рік тому

      If a casino gets legit caught cheating it is ALOT more then 50k like not even close

    • @gochillessmith4137
      @gochillessmith4137 Рік тому

      Bro the 50k was in the video…

    • @boneskin
      @boneskin Рік тому

      The bad publicity would hurt them for a while I’m guessing…

  • @benjaminsmith6063
    @benjaminsmith6063 11 місяців тому

    I was playing blackjack one night at a table by myself . For about half a shoe the dealer would pay me even if i lost . Not sure if she was mad at the casino or what . Still hard to believe .

    • @ravenshrike
      @ravenshrike 18 днів тому

      Kept you at the table to try and draw others. So long as you weren't making exorbitant bets getting you to stick around and play longer might mean the table fills.

  • @2AForever-wi8yj
    @2AForever-wi8yj Місяць тому +1

    Biggest reason casinos don’t cheat. They don’t have to the math is on their side. Second reason. No amount they will gain from cheating is worth the loss of the gaming license

  • @skilldeadly8888
    @skilldeadly8888 Рік тому +1

    Wouldnt dealers want you to win because you are more likely to tip or do dealers get some type of bonus for consistently beating the players?

    • @brianj1r144
      @brianj1r144 Рік тому

      I wish but nah I hope for everyone to win. But I rather deal anything but blackjack it’s so boring to deal with

    • @0wkHFL
      @0wkHFL Рік тому +1

      Yes, we want you to win, because of exactly this. No, no one gets a “promotion/raise” when we take all you money 😂. I hate hearing that joke

    • @alpark3024
      @alpark3024 Рік тому

      @@0wkHFL bs, dealers don't want players to win, other dealers will laugh at you for losing casinos money and then the dealer will get replaced with mechanics.

    • @0wkHFL
      @0wkHFL Рік тому

      @@alpark3024 interesting. Source?

    • @0wkHFL
      @0wkHFL Рік тому

      @@alpark3024 Or are you just trololololing?

  • @vulcan03
    @vulcan03 Рік тому +2

    What is the point of a cheating dealer tho? If you win, they win in tips. Unless they have a stake in the casino which is non existent with dealers wages.

    • @proyektochangeinc.7425
      @proyektochangeinc.7425 Рік тому

      Sometimes it's jealousy. Sometimes they hate you or the world. Happens. A lot.

  • @fsujavi16
    @fsujavi16 Рік тому

    12:00 Most importantly, Dealers will most likely not knowingly cheat u in the U.S. bc they rely on player’s tips (most get paid minimum wage). If you’re playing at a normal BJ table against the “house”, a dealer would be more inclined to help u than cheat u.

  • @valeriekeefe8898
    @valeriekeefe8898 11 днів тому

    11:50 I dealt for 2 1/2 years. You are wrong. I faced pressure to let whales angle-shoot in a room that banned angling and lost my job when I didn't. Regulators are publicly-funded PR for crooked casinos.

  • @jwbnscacpt
    @jwbnscacpt 10 місяців тому

    I had a dealer cheat me in Reno. It was a very hard to see fumble of a good card that was supposed to be mine, but instead the dealer took it for themselves.

  • @0wkHFL
    @0wkHFL Рік тому +2

    Yeah this video is a bit ridiculous. Maybe not back then, but in modern times, a dealer is not going to risk their job to try to make the house money. I’m a dealer, trust me, we want to house to lose too

  • @stevenhibbard4421
    @stevenhibbard4421 7 днів тому

    As an ex dealer who was there at the switch between manual shoes and continuous shuffling machines, I never cheated and don't know anyone who did, we had to do the deck sort and fan at the start and end of the day to show we wasn't cheating. The only thing I could have cheated at is roulette where I can spin to a section of numbers, I only done this when no one was at the table though

  • @paulsalamone6583
    @paulsalamone6583 11 місяців тому

    So, shouldn’t gaming regulators like the Nevada Gaming commission do surprise audits - come in and count all cards in an active shoe to make sure all cards are there, for example?

  • @patrickday4206
    @patrickday4206 8 місяців тому

    I've been mispayed 7 or eight times in a couple hours regularly believe if they don't pay you when they should or under pay you it should be double

  • @Forgemane
    @Forgemane 7 днів тому

    As a dealer for 14 years, I can say that every technique I've seen in this video would get me fired post-haste. There are also actually active measures against most of them. I could see this happening in a mafia house, but with todays regulations, they don't even try.
    If a casino notices you're counting cards, they'll just wait until you take a big hit and kick you out. No need for anything illegal.

  • @chrisfinch8637
    @chrisfinch8637 Рік тому +2

    Can you really tell if dealers actually cheat on players? Most of the time, I always think they’re playing the right way, when shuffling or dealing out our cards.
    And also, the hands I get, they can be brutal at times, but it’s all a matter of knowing when to make the right moves at the right time, even if you think something’s up the dealer’s sleeve.

    • @tmtmtlsml
      @tmtmtlsml Рік тому

      The only way to prove that cheating happened is to catch it in the moment, or get a glimpse at some doctored machinery like the gaffed shoe. The sheer number of hands needed to prove cheating statistically is too high for anyone to accumulate in one lifetime

    • @harryrocco7139
      @harryrocco7139 Рік тому +1

      Dont think dealers cheat for the house in this century...only if they are partners with the players

    • @0wkHFL
      @0wkHFL Рік тому

      MOST dealers these days get paid minimum wage, no benefits, and survive off your generous tips. I’ve only ever seen dealers cheat in favor of the players at my casino, and it’s rare and involves legal fines if caught

    • @allwrighty100
      @allwrighty100 Рік тому

      @@0wkHFL What country is this?

    • @blake_lively_matters6553
      @blake_lively_matters6553 Рік тому

      When you make YOUR move is when they make THEIR move.

  • @Piggy-Oink-Oink
    @Piggy-Oink-Oink Рік тому +1

    You state "multiple casinos" in the 90's were found to have been engaged in 'cheating".
    What was the Punishment from the Nevada Gaming Commission, if any? Can you name these casinos?

  • @pillwolak
    @pillwolak 6 місяців тому +1

    "Do casinos ever cheat?" Is like saying 'Is water wet?' or 'Does a bear 💩 in the woods?'

  • @The5thAce
    @The5thAce Місяць тому

    When I started dealing in Ohio in 2012, we would NEVER be told to try to cheat someone. Something like that would get you fired first time, no questions asked. In fact when a dealer makes a mistake, the floor supervisor will do anything they can to accommodate you.

  • @jacquespieterse5135
    @jacquespieterse5135 Рік тому

    What about casinos with automatic shufling machines, i always believe that the dealer have controle of the cards being deliverd ... any comment on that ?

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому +2

      They do not. But, you cannot beat one either by counting so if you see a CSM don't play that game.

  • @XGuarden1
    @XGuarden1 Місяць тому

    i went casino canada for blackjack. we not allow to seethe card except on camera. we dont see dealer hand. they live told house win rate for the day it was 98%...

  • @mrwonk
    @mrwonk 4 місяці тому

    A little over 10 years ago, I was counting in an indian casino. They pulled the dealer-swap after less than 10 minutes (could have been legit, very normal). I went from mostly winning, to everything going wrong and odds just felt wrong. I paid attention to the dealer and saw him pull a card off the bottom on me. I was in a town where no one knew who or where I was, on a reservation with an indian dealer, and indian security. I decided it was just time to leave. I got up, cashed out, and left right then. That was the last time I ever dealt with those crooked indian casinos. I now only go to corporate casinos in Nevada where I know it is at least a straight game.

  • @Koz4concern
    @Koz4concern 3 місяці тому

    As a relative of a professional card sharp that worked for Vegas casinos, I can confirm this is 100% real and far more wide spread than you can imagine.

  • @Cornmolio
    @Cornmolio 4 місяці тому

    I’ve been cheated in Vegas at New York, New York. Crazy story. Don’t know if Nevada Gaming was in on it or not, but when they sent me a letter explaining the payout was done correctly, nothing matched up with the scenario I described. It was as if they were shown security footage of a completely different hand. Cost me $1,000. In hindsight, I almost felt like the pit boss was in on it. But there’s also the small chance that it was an honest mistake, however, that doesn’t account for the Gaming Board not viewing the correct footage. So either two honest mistakes happened, or I was cheated. I lean towards the latter. Happened during a color up at the end of a winning session. Now I always pay more attention during color ups.

  • @mmafights8064
    @mmafights8064 7 місяців тому +1

    You should have sal piacente in for an appearance. There is NOBODY on his level and he probably stands alone as the biggest asset for casinos all around the world with his knowledge of cheating and his experience in catching cheating. Would be awesome to see you interview him and it would be very interesting. Im sure youve heard of him hes pretty famous for exposing cheaters and his slight of hand on cheating reenactments is OUT OF THIS WORLD GOOD. Seeing him do is like watching a magic trick and you dont even see it happen while he's telling you exactly what hes doing. He's ONE OF A KIND forreal

  • @ivonna.tinkle
    @ivonna.tinkle Рік тому

    Why would a dealer care if they don’t actually win or lose money? Does the casino give them some sort of a bonus if the dealer wins?

  • @bjornbergen8900
    @bjornbergen8900 Рік тому +1

    why would the dealer need to cheat, he makes wages with no tips, or the casino is getting him to cheat?

    • @alpark3024
      @alpark3024 Рік тому

      Dealers cheat to move up in ranks to become mechanics which casinos pay more for.

  • @andersgajczyk5226
    @andersgajczyk5226 Рік тому

    Does the dealer get a promotion of how much money they make or why is this a advantage?

  • @BrokenMedic
    @BrokenMedic 4 місяці тому

    What is the incentive for the dealer to cheat? How are dealers paid?

  • @zvotaisvfi8678
    @zvotaisvfi8678 11 місяців тому

    "It says on google" dealers typically make hourly wage. What is the incentive for a dealer to cheat you if he isn't making a commission>??

  • @Atarah-t9v
    @Atarah-t9v Рік тому +1

    I stopped playing blackjack when I realized the casinos were shorting the decks of 10s,faces and Aces.

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому

      If you're in the US at licensed casinos they're not. If they were you'd have quite the lawsuit and you'd be quite wealthy.

    • @Atarah-t9v
      @Atarah-t9v Рік тому +1

      @@Blackjackapprenticeship …. The casinos own the gaming commision. Don’t be so gullible.

    • @MrTi-ej4vr
      @MrTi-ej4vr Рік тому +1

      Really, I know personally a large name brand casino using cheating dealers. Make arrangements for someone to watch this cheater and get me paid!!!

  • @jgilchristmusic
    @jgilchristmusic Місяць тому

    What does a dealer get out of cheating anyway? They want you do well so they get tipped. They have no stake in what the house wins as obviously the Casino has the overall advantage and will make money regardless. If the casino itself has an organized cheating operation is it really worth it? I know things are highly regulated these days. What happens if the gaming commission catches this cheating?

  • @ImReverseGiraffe
    @ImReverseGiraffe 16 днів тому

    The dump off is pretty easy to spot. Why would they put the discard above the fresh cards unless to try and cheat.

  • @filippomunari8147
    @filippomunari8147 Рік тому

    genuine question from a guy that never entered a casino, do dealers gets bonuses/benefits if they win, even by cheating? do they get like a portion of the wins that they make?

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому

      Nope. Not today in US casinos.

    • @All_is_Dust7
      @All_is_Dust7 Рік тому

      No. The only way we get paid more is if the player tips and tips are usually shared. That's one of the reasons we want you to win. That and (in my experience) if the player is having a good time, it makes the shift a whole lot more fun.

  • @23isbackjordan
    @23isbackjordan 9 місяців тому

    For the most part they do not cheat, but against winning players who repeatedly come in and the house is starting to lose so many hands they figure they don’t have an edge, they will absolutely bring in a mechanic versus high limit advantage player, and they will ban them from the casino for frivolous reasons. I’ve seen in Vegas high limit rooms. That’s why most dealers come on here and say we don’t cheat, for the most part they don’t. But against high limit advantage players they absolutely play dirty. Same thing for winning sports bettors, I’ve personally seen them ban them for no reason saying they messed up a room when they didn’t. Claiming they broke something when they did not.

  • @myway148
    @myway148 Рік тому

    I played one time in the early 80's at the Westward Ho in Vegas. Single deck Black Jack. Are cards were being delt face up including the dealers. I lost 20 hands in a row. I would suspect they had a cheating dealer, especially after I was warned not to play there again by another dealer I had meet in Vegas, who said she used to deal Black Jack there herself. The odds of losing 20 hands in a row is likely not very high mathematically for a pro, or even an average rated player.

  • @williampeterson4416
    @williampeterson4416 Рік тому +1

    Dealers may make a mistake, but as far as cheating the players it NEVER would happen at a licensed casino. Now they may cheat for the player against the casino.

  • @richb1576
    @richb1576 15 днів тому

    What do you do if you suspect a dealer is cheating besides just leaving the table

  • @johannessmithenstein
    @johannessmithenstein 2 місяці тому

    Shorting the deck is still very prevalent today in certain places. Don't play at any of the stations places in Vegas. I've literally counted individual cards coming out of their decks and certain cards are way over the possible amount. Of course no corrupt gaming authority is gonna investigate it and no one's gonna take my word for it, but just be on the lookout is all I can say.

  • @qvorhies3575
    @qvorhies3575 10 місяців тому

    Dealers in blackjack can short you on coloring up. If you aren't careful, it's hard to catch. They can put a $25 green chip under a stack of reds, shorting you $25. Happened to me at Silverton in Las Vegas. I got paid back from casino because I knew how much I had when I colored up.

    • @ImGettinWeird
      @ImGettinWeird 7 місяців тому

      Anyone can short you anyways. Thats just a mistake , but you just speak up

  • @futeboltips8020
    @futeboltips8020 Місяць тому

    I am professional roullete player. the most important thing is good money management, stop loss, take profit for the day and strategy with more that 99% chances

  • @TheSilverShadow17
    @TheSilverShadow17 Рік тому

    Yes. Casinos do it all the time, every time. Whenever someone better than them shows up and beats them at their own game, the casinos throw a tantrum or rewrites the rules for their own personal gains rather than face the consequences and reality.

  • @ricardomohamed2431
    @ricardomohamed2431 8 місяців тому

    Be careful with fast blackjacks that are not done in order but rather simulated through the will of where to place the dealers. I have already been in a situation where a dealer hesitated to place a card that benefited me elsewhere, clearly she later became embarrassed because she saw that what she did was poorly done, characterizing bad faith.Micro Chips placed on cards can also detect the card and show on the display in front of the dealer that we don't see.

  • @stevejones3543
    @stevejones3543 11 місяців тому

    What about online live Black jack
    I've always been getting hammered by the dealer
    10 high cards on a row?

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  11 місяців тому

      We discuss online more in depth here: ua-cam.com/video/aQDrzJF82k0/v-deo.htmlsi=OPWzB_Ita88gRN4Q

  • @emmanuelvacakis4463
    @emmanuelvacakis4463 3 місяці тому

    Casinos don’t cheat very often. But they steal money from players by changing the rules to give them a higher advantage. Preferential shuffling has the same effect as using a short deck in the long run. That’s because all plus counts get shuffled away and negative counts get dealt down to the end, or at least to the shuffle card. Casinos use preferential shuffling discreetly by changing dealers, refilling the chip tray, or changing decks all during plus counts.

  • @angelq.7656
    @angelq.7656 Рік тому

    Collin would you play a double deck game dealt by hand no shoe?

  • @shavencarrot
    @shavencarrot Місяць тому

    Handheld games? What pos places are you going to

  • @bumparoo
    @bumparoo Рік тому +1

    Have you ever suspected a fellow "patron" stting next to you at the table of trying to distract you?

  • @shawnluo4230
    @shawnluo4230 Рік тому

    I'm quite wondering what if the cards are coming out of shuffling machine.. Reason is that I have a reasonable concern that the casinos are rigging the shuffling machines... Everytime when extreme high count, it never leads us to winning, especially doubling or split, or just general dealing...

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому

      There is no benefit greater than the consequences if a casino cheats in the US today so it's very unlikely. The better bet if you're seeing a bad streak is to look at your game first and try to find a leak. If you can test out at 100% we know variance can be a beast.

    • @shawnluo4230
      @shawnluo4230 Рік тому

      @@Blackjackapprenticeship I guess maybe in NZ would be different stories, especially when it deals with ENHC style, makes the variance being a devil...

    • @TheDigitalMan1001
      @TheDigitalMan1001 Рік тому

      ​@@Blackjackapprenticeship The consequences of cheating are high, yes. But there is no regulation, at least in many states, that games MUST be random. It's "gaming", remember. Verification and monitoring that there's randomness to anything dealt, rolled or spun is not performed. State governments make way too much tax revenue to pay attention outside of NV/NJ.

  • @kahrnivor
    @kahrnivor Рік тому +2

    That's some devious stuff

  • @StanLewis-m7q
    @StanLewis-m7q 6 місяців тому

    In most casinos, cards are delt from a shoe. Maybe not in high stakes, but on the main floor.

  • @dark_knight2357
    @dark_knight2357 9 місяців тому +8

    Buy Casino stocks and be the owner of the casino!

  • @sisiyousefi1388
    @sisiyousefi1388 Рік тому

    What about online casinos?
    Are they under control, or can they cheat easily?

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому +2

      Online casinos are difficult to trust, many are also offshore and there is no guarantee of being able to cash out if you win big.

  • @alexyoung4052
    @alexyoung4052 Рік тому

    Someone answer this. Is it possible to card count in Canada where we use automatic cars shufflers

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому

      We cannot count effectively with a CSM because there is no penetration. General rule is to avoid those games.

  • @NAWfupa
    @NAWfupa Рік тому

    Colin how much trouble would a casino get in if caught. Would they even bother trying

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому +5

      Did you make it to the end of the video?

    • @paulklemer
      @paulklemer Рік тому

      @@Blackjackapprenticeship I made to the end of video twice already 🤣

    • @MrZzstop
      @MrZzstop Рік тому

      @@Blackjackapprenticeship Apparently not!

  • @NeoDream
    @NeoDream Рік тому

    I'm a dealer and most of these are impossible, the shoe we use is not transparent and you can't push a card up to take another one there is a small bump on top preventing this, for the fake pay I'm sure nobody does that and everybody would realize it since they know how much they bet, and the bet needs to be in a very small circle on the table so it would show since you paid with your left or right hand. also dealers wants people to win, makes a better atmosphere at the table, get better tips, when people loose it sucks because they're not happy and it's boring to deal to them. maybe this is because I deal at a gouvernment owned casino and it's different in the U.S.

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  Рік тому

      The last couple minutes discusses that most of these methods are not being used in the US anymore.

  • @shacharoren2788
    @shacharoren2788 7 місяців тому

    What about shortening the shoe beforehand? I mean nobody shows you the entire decks every time you sit at a new table nor you couldn't say in a 6 deck shuffled showing face up being showed for a brief couple of seconds if there's missing cards. Looks like less trouble

  • @andrewsaikin6471
    @andrewsaikin6471 15 днів тому

    I was a dealer and NEVER was I ever told to do anything to effect the legitimate outcome of any game or hand.

  • @StanLewis-m7q
    @StanLewis-m7q 6 місяців тому

    What’s the incentive for a dealer to cheat? I’ve seen players cheat, but never a dealer. Guess I need to watch out for that.