Thank you 🙏 I think there are multiple approaches you can take to tier lists but I liked doing this and was just kinda curious who had been winning tournaments. If there is some time after Rashid passes I'll take another look
@@flowchartkenYT That'd be more than awesome, man. Most tier lists out there are subjective, but viewed on a high level. Your take on your list is very objective, which players and characters producing results. I'd say that's very smart of you! I think this is the only "tier list" I would confidently believe. That's why I think the community needs more of you and your lists.
thank you 🙏 this felt like an eternity to edit lol This evo is going to be incredible and although I am not going I'm almost more excited to watch. Genuinely curious how they are going to get like 10k competitors going at the same time.
I appreciate the thought and effort that went into this. This is just about the most scientific approach to creating accurate tier lists I've ever seen.
Woulda thought Marisa woulda be more higher on the list given that how she won Kumite by Big Bird and that before I assume given how much damage she dealt would be played more than anyone! But hey I can't argue with you're analysis since all this seems to be on point.
I think if I added EU and JP there would be some changes, but no one in NA seems to have figured out Marisa. Big bird is definitely doing work on her though
Good concept and well done, my only complain would be the "only NA" thing (but I guess it's your region and it would need much more work to make something "more international", so I understand). Let's talk about Juri for example : there's way less Juri in EMEA's top 8, and even the best EU Juri according to Birds (Kilzyou) doesn't really perform in the biggest tournaments so far. Or we could talk about Lily which is carried by Problem X. But well, we'll see at EVO, the only big internationnal tournament so far is the RBK, and we could argue that the invited the wrong players especially from Japan and US which got quite disapointing results.
Yep I agree this is only relevant to NA and could completely fall apart with EVO since there are international competitors. It just became too much to manually look at for me lol. Marisa is another character that could go up, big bird looking very good on her right now. Very excited to see international play!
yeah its guile by a large margin. There is actually a ton of more interesting stats here but the video was already long enough lol. Basically if you want to make top 3, you either play guile/juri or be punk/mena. Guile - 14 times top 3, 13 times grand finals, 6 win Juri - 6 times top 3, 2 times grand finals, 1 win Punk - 11 times top 3, 8 times grand finals, 6 win Mena - 6 times top 3, 6 times grand finals, 4 wins the next closest is Luke with 6 top 3 appearances but 0 wins, and then Ken with 5 top 3 appearances but only 2 wins (both are Chris T)
lily i think is sneakily okay. Her tools are very strong she just has really bad weaknesses that get exploited. I think of all people if she gets slight buffs she could be extremely strong and take manon's place as the top hybrid grappler. Ryu definitely needs eome help. It feels like Ken got changes to stay in line with Luke while still being a shoto and Ryu didn't really get anything. He got power crept
probably would change adding EU and JP, although my bold prediction now is that one of less Ken players will make top 8 at evo and ken will not get top 3. I think he is good but he seems to lose to Cammy/Guile/Luke/Blanka/Juri and those characters are the ones winning everything rn
Ryu definitely needs eome help. It feels like Ken got changes to stay in line with Luke while still being a shoto and Ryu didn't really get anything. He got power crept
Catching up on your stuff and idk how I missed this one. Great stuff!
This channel needs to blow up
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We need more lists like this. I hope you'd be able to make a list video per patch. Nicely done!
Thank you 🙏
I think there are multiple approaches you can take to tier lists but I liked doing this and was just kinda curious who had been winning tournaments. If there is some time after Rashid passes I'll take another look
@@flowchartkenYT That'd be more than awesome, man. Most tier lists out there are subjective, but viewed on a high level. Your take on your list is very objective, which players and characters producing results. I'd say that's very smart of you! I think this is the only "tier list" I would confidently believe. That's why I think the community needs more of you and your lists.
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Cheers on a solid 6 minute video man! This EVO is gonna be one for the books. 🤘🦖
thank you 🙏 this felt like an eternity to edit lol
This evo is going to be incredible and although I am not going I'm almost more excited to watch. Genuinely curious how they are going to get like 10k competitors going at the same time.
I appreciate the thought and effort that went into this. This is just about the most scientific approach to creating accurate tier lists I've ever seen.
thank you 🙏
I think this is technically more of like a power rankings but tier list is much more clickable
Really this 6 min video using some simple data is TIME AND EFFORT. OMG this is not how you do the tier lists.
5:03 Hes a Rushdown-Zoner, guiLe carries
He truly does it all
Fantastic video, good data and analysis.
Thank you 🙏
Woulda thought Marisa woulda be more higher on the list given that how she won Kumite by Big Bird and that before I assume given how much damage she dealt would be played more than anyone! But hey I can't argue with you're analysis since all this seems to be on point.
I think if I added EU and JP there would be some changes, but no one in NA seems to have figured out Marisa. Big bird is definitely doing work on her though
I don't really know If I should pay attention to tier list or just pick whatever character I want and don't worry about which position it has.
It's the second one. 100%
Good concept and well done, my only complain would be the "only NA" thing (but I guess it's your region and it would need much more work to make something "more international", so I understand).
Let's talk about Juri for example : there's way less Juri in EMEA's top 8, and even the best EU Juri according to Birds (Kilzyou) doesn't really perform in the biggest tournaments so far.
Or we could talk about Lily which is carried by Problem X.
But well, we'll see at EVO, the only big internationnal tournament so far is the RBK, and we could argue that the invited the wrong players especially from Japan and US which got quite disapointing results.
Yep I agree this is only relevant to NA and could completely fall apart with EVO since there are international competitors. It just became too much to manually look at for me lol.
Marisa is another character that could go up, big bird looking very good on her right now. Very excited to see international play!
Good stuff. I thought the twist was somehow going to be Blanka being the top scorer but when you said Guile I was just like oh yeah of course.
yeah its guile by a large margin. There is actually a ton of more interesting stats here but the video was already long enough lol.
Basically if you want to make top 3, you either play guile/juri or be punk/mena.
Guile - 14 times top 3, 13 times grand finals, 6 win
Juri - 6 times top 3, 2 times grand finals, 1 win
Punk - 11 times top 3, 8 times grand finals, 6 win
Mena - 6 times top 3, 6 times grand finals, 4 wins
the next closest is Luke with 6 top 3 appearances but 0 wins, and then Ken with 5 top 3 appearances but only 2 wins (both are Chris T)
I enjoy playing ryu and lily, i'm reminded by everyone on random vids that they are low tier ahaha but they're all i can play okay with atm
lily i think is sneakily okay. Her tools are very strong she just has really bad weaknesses that get exploited. I think of all people if she gets slight buffs she could be extremely strong and take manon's place as the top hybrid grappler.
Ryu definitely needs eome help. It feels like Ken got changes to stay in line with Luke while still being a shoto and Ryu didn't really get anything. He got power crept
Appreciate the effort to make this listing, but if Ken is not at the top, somewhere went wrong.
probably would change adding EU and JP, although my bold prediction now is that one of less Ken players will make top 8 at evo and ken will not get top 3. I think he is good but he seems to lose to Cammy/Guile/Luke/Blanka/Juri and those characters are the ones winning everything rn
@@flowchartkenYT Well, in Asia Ken is winning everything now, with JP being the biggest challenge. You will see how these 2 rock in EVO soon :)
Anyone who puts Manon anywhere but the bottom of the list doesn't know her kit.
And Rashid in his own S+++ tier
Rashid is broken tier until proven otherwise
GOOD VIDEO LAZY COMMENT! 👍
Doing gods work 🙏
How embarrassing by capcom to have Ryu this pathetically weak
Ryu definitely needs eome help. It feels like Ken got changes to stay in line with Luke while still being a shoto and Ryu didn't really get anything. He got power crept
To summerize. Punk is really fucking good :D
basically this