I was sceptical, having played monk in tt before, but wow. With gloves that give you additional d4, flurry of blows hitting twice, on top of regular attacks, and with open palm additional damage, AND scaling unarmed dice, that class becomes a real "death by a thousand cuts situation". Excepts those are no cuts, those are hits by a dumptruck.
As a Gith monk I roleplayed that there exists a sect of Gith on Faerune that have the belief that to properly fight the mindflayers one must put their whole body into battling them. Id like to think that their motto/mantra is "Steel and Silver will fail, we shall not." Their créche would be in the ruins of an old monastery and using the old texts left behind the Githyanki would adopt the martial arts due to the deadly potential these attacks provide.
I really appreciate this overview! A monk was my favorite in the tabletop so I wondered how well they translated. Thanks for the hard work of putting this together!
Thank you Larian for showing the monk some love. My favorite archetype to play in rpgs. loved the class in NWN2 and was concerned about d&d 5 rules. I'm having a blast with it so far in bg3.
@@Killer66hitman I think that's made me decide to go down Four Elements subclass then, I saved last night at lvl 3 where I the choice but couldn't decide
Open hand is pretty solid as well, Morty forgot to say but they get wholeness of body at level 6, which give you half your Ki points, heals you and makes that you have one more bonus action for 3 turns, just like a thief, It's pretty busted.
I am actually pretty hyped to try a Dark Urge Monk - always had a blood rage that tried to tame with martial arts and cloisters study but doesn’t work so ventured out to find a way 😂
Could see quite a few tabletop players adopt "BG3 Style Monks" as a variant rule. Genuinely seems like a great but still balanced buff to a normally extremely love or hate class.
BG3 in general has seen a mild power increase for magic, but a major one for martials. Even with it, I'd tone down some elements slightly, particularly if you're not taking the special weapon abilities idea from BG3 (otherwise monk will overshadow other martials)
@@antarath517eh idk playing on tactician currently and so far I have yet to face an enemy (outside of the adamantium forge boss that's meant to be either dealt with slowly and kited, or killed with the hammer) that my gloomstalker5 thief3 laezel didnt kill in one turn her double handcrossbows.
@@The_Yukki Yeah, I'm just saying that monks have definitely been designed around not having the extra boost from weapon skills that other martials got. Specifically, I'm talking about single class lines, cause multiclass dice dumping builds will always be OP
@@antarath517 Tbh my Lazel build has 99% of it's power from just being lvl 5 gloomstalker and items. Rogue is just there for extra bonus action attack tbh. Though the expertise in SoH for stealing and lockpicking did come in quite useful.
I remember my first DnD monk...reason he became a adventure was out of boredom and wanted to find a fight so worthy the gods would watch. (His goal was not get gods approval he just wanted to get the gods to watch nothing more nothing less and spoiler he found it when we kill 5 dragons who were trying destroy the realm to remake it and he was taken by gods to fight for them in a arena at end of our DnD game)
I love the Class Fantasy section in these videos. It may not come to mind at first thought but Kenshiro (manga character) is a monk since he's a successor to an assassination martial art with 1800 years of history.
The way of the open hand monk in the tabletop ruleset actually does get a one hit kill type of ability at level 17, so you can actually do the "omae wa mo shinderu" thing
I actually made a tiefling monk that had been orphaned by his parents to a monastery because both parents are human and were horrified. Then, the reasoning as to why he left the cloister was because he wanted to explore the outside and what it meant to him after knowing just the cloister for so long. He's kind of like a paladin but a bit less empathetic if that makes sense, a bit more focused on balance rather than straight up goodness.
I'm loving monk so much right now - i added a palalock and a lore bard to my party. This really lets me benefit from short rests resetting Khi, Oath charges, and lock spell slots. Considering making shadowheart into a war domain cleric to get another heavy armor front liner; as i just learned War Priest charges recharge a bit (not all) on short rests.
I loved playing monks in my table-top AD&D days. In those days, the TV show Kung Fu was still in reruns and I really enjoyed playing the monk along the lines that the main character in that show acted, a spiritual person who was also trained martial artist adventuring in strange lands. In that sense, the old rule set seemed more natural, as monks just got more and better attacks as they leveled up, plus got harder to hit, i.e., in lieu of unarmored defense, they just had a base armor class that improved with level. At the same time, they got mental and physical abilities which seemed to follow with physical and mental training. I say all that to say that the later editions where ki changed monks into magic-channeling people changed the very nature of the class and, in many ways, nerfed it since ki is sparse and the class remains a bit squishy. I'm still excited to try the class out when I get the full version (still waiting since I'm on Mac).
Agreed. I hate being locked into lawfully aligned characters, it’s nice to have a bit more freedom with RP’ing. I found Seelah in wotr funny too because because shes basically like “see being lawful good doesn’t have to be boring!” Without saying exactly those words 😂
The monk strikes back... and with a flurry of blows, too! Balance is restored, and finally no BG3 Class is more equal then the others. (LOL) Thanks for your videos!
I know it may not synergize very well, but I've been doing a Warlock/Monk hybrid and having a blast. The tadpole things reminded me of the Magatama bugs from SMT: Nocturne, so I've tried to make a Demifiend build. Demonic magic, summons, persuasive skills to emulate negotiations, and hard hittinf unarmed strikes. Been a lot of fun so far, we'll see how it does as I get later into the game.
This is great! I was only able to play a bit before I had to work, so now I can watch this before continuing and maybe have a better clue what I'm doing. Thank you so much
My favorite multiclass was to go barbarian. Danger sense plus rage turned the monk into a good power house if you were ever stuck in a jam. Now that I don't need to focus on str to get rage damage, it should be even better.
The ending was great. I am playing a tempest cleric in my game and while watching this I was thinking that it might be good multiclass with monk so it was funny to have you reaffirm that thought right at the end. Good Video :3
BG3 is my first ever CRPG, and I chose a Half-Orc Monk as my first character. I'm barely 2 hours into the game so far, and still getting to grips with it (I'm playing on PS5) but my character, Tau, looks the business! I'm very happy with my choice, and will come back here a few times to get a better understanding of the choices open to me as I progress. Thanks for the useful information!
The base class was hugely buffed by removing several abilities from being unarmored. Makes multiclassing with monk go from mediocre to amazing. Especially with the Tavern Brawler feat being OP.
I was waiting for this! After some research I'm totally making a Ninja: 1 Level of Rogue for Expertise, then 7 Levels of Shadow Monk, then the rest Rogue Assassin.
In every souls game (I wish I could do it in Sekiro too) I played my first character as a naked guy punching shit to death. The fact that there's an entire class about doing this is, weirdly enough, making me NOT want to play this, so I have no idea what I want my first character to be :(
With some magic items you can kinda make that work. Late into chapter1 you can get gloves that set your dexterity to 18. Which let's you rework your character stats to be focused on str and wisdom instead of dex and wisdom for ac. Combined with tavern brawler fest that let's you add double your str to attack and damage and you'll be hitting pretty hard. Edit: Nvm, scratch that seems like Larian hardcoded monk's extra features to be dex only. Bonus action unarmed strike doesn't scale with str even if it's higher than dex, same for flurry of blows and stunning strike damage.
Monk is my favorite class in tabletop version, especially when I can Kamehameha the enemy or Avatar-ed the enemy. Too bad Sun Soul isn't available for BG3.
Wait for either the Definitive edition, or fingers crossed an expansion or 2 in the form of act 4 or 5 giving us 4 levels each act. 🤞 Or Modders to make it.
What is the exact wording that defines a "monk weapon" in the game? Is it just a weapon that you are proficient with? If so, does that mean I could use a Dwarf Monk and wield a Warhammer with no drawbacks?
Larian said at the last Panel form Hell that any weapon a monk is proficient in is considered a Monk Weapon, so I have been thinking about a fighter 4 (Battle Master) Monk 8 weilding a Glaive and taking the Polearm Master feat, then the Sentinel Feat and be the ultimate battlefield controller with multiple atracks with reach from the polearm, potentially many AoO in a round from Polearm Mastery and Sentinel, and flurry of blows. This is dependent on Larian being truthful and letting me use a glaive as a monk weapon, though. For the Battlefield Master manuevers, I'd take some combination of menacing attack, perry, riposte, sweeping attack, and trip attack. But if BG3 doesn't let me use the Glaive and flurry of blows, than this build isn't as good. So I'll have to see.
IDk how that works my man. I have been trying to use greatswords as my main weapon but it doesnt seem to proc the unnarmed attack. Event thought i have proficiency
Any weapon proficiency you have can be considered a monk weapon yes HOWEVER any weapon that have the two handed or heavy tag are no go. So... no you can't punch people while using a greatsword or Glaive, but can still use the rather decent versatile weapons, like longsword, Warhammers and spears if you have the proficiencies for it.
@@MenteSanJogoSalvo Spear and Tridents can be used as they are considered versatile so can be used one handed, you can't use it with Pikes, Halberds and glaives cause those are only two handed
For style reasons? or would it be strong?I would think that Shillelagh wouldn't scale at all if only Druid 1, right? For that matter I'm not even familiar if it scales _normally._
I think a good reason to go monk is that none of the 10 companions are one. Kind of missing out on some neat stuff otherwise. I suppose it's not really _content,_ but it's _kind of_ minor content, still something to experience. While there are other classes also missing, something like a paladin or sorcerer probably isn't to special compared to other classes. Although maybe I'm wrong since one could argue the same about the monk maybe.
This or Paladin is most likely gonna be what I play if I do another playthrough. Watching CR and seeing Beauregard doing all sorts of crazy awesome things as a monk makes me want to play that
Been goin a str barb monk bc i love my brawlers in games. DnD/Turn based isnt my usual thing, but hearing such good things about BG3 and hearing the shenanigans my friends would get into, i picked it up for a 4p playthrough and am now wanting to do singleplayer so i can actually hear the story!
Mort: Did you ever do a Monk/Rogue build video? I have had a quick look and couldnt find one, so I assume you didnt (next question: Will you? pretty please?)
I am rolling a Monk now and I'm not too happy with it. I think I am not as familiar with the class as I am with the others to give it a proper run through. Thank God Larian put in respecs!!
Monk is basically a Battle Support class. They're highly mobile and have several Utility focused features. Their direct damage leaves something to be desired, and most of the time they become a 'Stunning Blow' dispenser, trying to incapacitate enemies so teammates can crank out high damage numbers. The free Invisibility and teleports on the Shadow Monk can be great fun though; even with the tabletop rules.
@@tahirravat131 Dip into Eldritch Knight for martial weapon proficiency, action surge, and mage armor spell to help mitigate the lower AC. You're essentially trading some AC for more varied weapon options (better able to handle resistances) and small bump to base damage as a result. In exchange for a few less AC. While also not stepping on the toes of any Rogue or other melee dex character in the group. Because then you'd have two people to decide on who gets the good Rapier weapon. lol
@@andersfrieden567 Ah I see, well I'd guess your wisdom is probably low if you have high Strength and Dex. Wisdom also boosts your AC for monks by the way.
Would multiclassing 2 levels into fighter be a good bet? To get action surge and weapon proficiencies? I feel like action surge on a Way of the open hand Monk would go absolutely crazy
I love monks, monks still aren’t very strong in 5e or in bg3. However you can make a fairly strong monk pretty easily. I like shadow monk assassin rogue for all of the stealth advantages and sneak attack opportunities you can create. Especially with the ‘Watchers Guide’ green spear available in the act 1 temple. Any miss gives the next attack advantage ergo sneak attack. Use this on a flurry of blows and both strikes actually get advantage instead of just one.
Actually pretty convinced to try monk, I fell in love with monk when they turned up in Neverwinter Nights but I know they weak af in latest editions after being op according to others 😂
Pathfinder monk can be pretty cool (in tabletop, IDK about the videogame). At least in 1st edition (3.5e D&D), IDK about 2nd ed (which not 5th ed D&D, but simplified in a similar manner as it)
Monk Warlock could be fun too. Shadow Monk, get enough Warlock levels to get invocations and grab Devil's Sight and whatever other invocation you want. Then you can cast darkness that you can see through with Ki points and use Warlock spell slots for Armor of Agathys and Arms of Hadar.
So is this now the only way to see through your own cast magical darkness? Other option discussed in EA was blind fighting style, but that doesn't made it into the game right? Also do you think sentinel feat is mandatory to keep them from simply running out of the darkness?
@@DangermikeX Yeah I believe this is the only way to see through magical darkness. I could be wrong though, I haven't even gotten to Baldur's Gate yet in my playthrough so there could very well be more ways. Sentinel would be a fantastic pickup for this strategy too. If you can get Wyll proficiency with some kind of polearm you could also potentially pick up polearm master as well to make it even more ridiculous.
Another great video and thank you so much for sharing it with the gaming community.And I can't wait to get my hands on the game, even though I have to wait until September, because I am playing on PS5.And I was thinking of playing a dual wielding Shadow monk ranger,so what do you think,I would like your in put thank you in advance
Will you be making updates to the other class guides to include the full release information? Such as fir the higher levels and missing subclasses as they are implemented?
@@MortismalGaming They didn't change much, but they did get 7 new levels, and some new sub classes. Not a lot of info out there yet about the classes beyond what was available in EA, and the game doesn't let you read ahead what you will receive (these are times I miss game manuals). A short review or ranking of the subclasses compared to each other comes to mind.
This video didn’t answer my question. I would like to play a quarterstaff monk but none of the subclasses seem to utilise the weapon. Also, I hoped that strength 16 would be useful since the ingame character sheet seems to imply that Monk prioritises STR/DEX…
They have done a really good work on monk! They feel super good! nyway in the other video I wrote wrong my question for you, do you know if *eldritch smite* from the eldritch invocation is in the game ? Thank you in case you can help me
I know this isn't a Monk Question, but I can't find the answer anywhere. AT what difficulty do Friends & Charm backfire? Normal? Tactical? really wish the tool tip was clearer what is meant by "higher difficulties"
I like what they did with Chi because for some reason in the West people think that chi is not mana but in reality, in Asian fantasy and mythology; it’s mana because it’s just a source of magic; it is just a different form of mana.
@@LeJazzPanda my stupid phone couldn’t understand what I said to it, I was driving so I had to comment through voice. I commute 2 1/2 hour to work so I wasn’t going to text and drive.
Monk is my favorite class in dnd but those are the worst subclasses available, I guess that's why they needed to do some buffing. As it stands I low-key dislike all three subclasses and I am having second thoughts on going as a monk, not to mention that having just 3 ASI means you are always going to have a subpar AC, especially since you are going to want to forgo one to pick up mobile as well, and that's assuming you don't multiclass or things get even worse. The only one I can stomach in table-top is open-hand for the late-game kill at Will whoever you touched, which is great for roleplaying, the aoe isn't as attractive to me... So idk, I think I'll decide in character creation and go where my Heart takes me. If I were Larian I would have added an extra ASI at level 10, that would have made monk a much more viable option and enabled some multiclassing options for late game. Who knows though, maybe Larian made it easy to gain ability points through playing, which would make monk more viable, as it stands needing a High Dex and wisdom, mobile, and a decent constitution seems like a tall order and at the very least highly restrictive in terms of roleplaying, but we'll see.
I was sceptical, having played monk in tt before, but wow. With gloves that give you additional d4, flurry of blows hitting twice, on top of regular attacks, and with open palm additional damage, AND scaling unarmed dice, that class becomes a real "death by a thousand cuts situation". Excepts those are no cuts, those are hits by a dumptruck.
I’m playing rogue/monk , absolutely deleting stuff
What gloves are you using?
As a Gith monk I roleplayed that there exists a sect of Gith on Faerune that have the belief that to properly fight the mindflayers one must put their whole body into battling them.
Id like to think that their motto/mantra is "Steel and Silver will fail, we shall not."
Their créche would be in the ruins of an old monastery and using the old texts left behind the Githyanki would adopt the martial arts due to the deadly potential these attacks provide.
I really appreciate this overview! A monk was my favorite in the tabletop so I wondered how well they translated. Thanks for the hard work of putting this together!
It's been rough for us the last playtest
Thank you Larian for showing the monk some love. My favorite archetype to play in rpgs. loved the class in NWN2 and was concerned about d&d 5 rules. I'm having a blast with it so far in bg3.
Same, always nice to a fellow monk enjoyer
The ff14 version is one or my favorites
@@user-pi8pi3wj7h I actually fell in love with the "unarmed monk" archetype from playing it in EverQuest 1.
Timing on that, just looking up monk stuff in prep, uploaded 15 minutes ago
Lmao exactly the same here 😅
Glad they buffed the monk a bit, and with the ease of short rests I'm hoping Ki won't be such a big issue.
haven't tried it yet but I did notice an ability that you can use which restores half your ki outside of battles. Might be useful not sure yet.
@@Killer66hitman I think that's made me decide to go down Four Elements subclass then, I saved last night at lvl 3 where I the choice but couldn't decide
Open hand is pretty solid as well, Morty forgot to say but they get wholeness of body at level 6, which give you half your Ki points, heals you and makes that you have one more bonus action for 3 turns, just like a thief, It's pretty busted.
you even get an ability which allows u to restore half of ur ki points
That's only once per long rest.
You're just ridiculously good Mort! Its so nice to see your channel finally started to get the recognition that it deserves after all these years
My first end character was a monk and 2 levels of tempest cleric domain.. i found the reaction of doing damage after getting hit very handy.
I'm going Monk on my first playthrough, so this is particularly helpful.
Excellent work.
Been having a blast roleplaying the avatar! Loving the class in and out of combat!
oh damn imma do that lmao, but theres not really any skins or anything and u cant really go on a ball of air or have the big furry animal
@@abdullahfall1517if u wanna sacrifice the stats u could get a wildspire owlbear
@@Ulcira whats that? the little cub which follows u along?
And finally the Monk overview! Thanks for all the effort you put into these classes ! It is certainly appreciated and well done
I am actually pretty hyped to try a Dark Urge Monk - always had a blood rage that tried to tame with martial arts and cloisters study but doesn’t work so ventured out to find a way 😂
Could be fun to do a str based monk and add one level in barbarian
Play astarion as monk, it's crazy OP coz he gets 1d10 necro damage every hit in act 3 with certain choice
I was just thinking that its about time Faerun gets introduced to Ansatsuken lol
Could see quite a few tabletop players adopt "BG3 Style Monks" as a variant rule.
Genuinely seems like a great but still balanced buff to a normally extremely love or hate class.
BG3 in general has seen a mild power increase for magic, but a major one for martials. Even with it, I'd tone down some elements slightly, particularly if you're not taking the special weapon abilities idea from BG3 (otherwise monk will overshadow other martials)
@@antarath517eh idk playing on tactician currently and so far I have yet to face an enemy (outside of the adamantium forge boss that's meant to be either dealt with slowly and kited, or killed with the hammer) that my gloomstalker5 thief3 laezel didnt kill in one turn her double handcrossbows.
@@The_Yukki Yeah, I'm just saying that monks have definitely been designed around not having the extra boost from weapon skills that other martials got.
Specifically, I'm talking about single class lines, cause multiclass dice dumping builds will always be OP
@@antarath517 Tbh my Lazel build has 99% of it's power from just being lvl 5 gloomstalker and items. Rogue is just there for extra bonus action attack tbh. Though the expertise in SoH for stealing and lockpicking did come in quite useful.
I remember my first DnD monk...reason he became a adventure was out of boredom and wanted to find a fight so worthy the gods would watch. (His goal was not get gods approval he just wanted to get the gods to watch nothing more nothing less and spoiler he found it when we kill 5 dragons who were trying destroy the realm to remake it and he was taken by gods to fight for them in a arena at end of our DnD game)
I love the Class Fantasy section in these videos.
It may not come to mind at first thought but Kenshiro (manga character) is a monk since he's a successor to an assassination martial art with 1800 years of history.
Omae wa, mou shinderu!
@@nocteexmortis979Nani!?
The way of the open hand monk in the tabletop ruleset actually does get a one hit kill type of ability at level 17, so you can actually do the "omae wa mo shinderu" thing
I actually made a tiefling monk that had been orphaned by his parents to a monastery because both parents are human and were horrified. Then, the reasoning as to why he left the cloister was because he wanted to explore the outside and what it meant to him after knowing just the cloister for so long. He's kind of like a paladin but a bit less empathetic if that makes sense, a bit more focused on balance rather than straight up goodness.
Mines an Orc, imagining him as having gone from an angry brute searching for violence to a mild mannered adventurer.
I'm loving monk so much right now - i added a palalock and a lore bard to my party. This really lets me benefit from short rests resetting Khi, Oath charges, and lock spell slots. Considering making shadowheart into a war domain cleric to get another heavy armor front liner; as i just learned War Priest charges recharge a bit (not all) on short rests.
I loved playing monks in my table-top AD&D days. In those days, the TV show Kung Fu was still in reruns and I really enjoyed playing the monk along the lines that the main character in that show acted, a spiritual person who was also trained martial artist adventuring in strange lands. In that sense, the old rule set seemed more natural, as monks just got more and better attacks as they leveled up, plus got harder to hit, i.e., in lieu of unarmored defense, they just had a base armor class that improved with level. At the same time, they got mental and physical abilities which seemed to follow with physical and mental training. I say all that to say that the later editions where ki changed monks into magic-channeling people changed the very nature of the class and, in many ways, nerfed it since ki is sparse and the class remains a bit squishy. I'm still excited to try the class out when I get the full version (still waiting since I'm on Mac).
After playing the Pathfinder CRPGs for so long, the lack of alignment restrictions is really refreshing!
You should of played DOS2 literal freedom
@@KmartParkingLots I loved DOS2. I can't get enough of this shit. Pillars, Pathfinder, wasteland, DOS. Just keep them coming, baby!
to be fair pathfinder makes up for restricted classes by having a ton of classes
Yeah, I might actually play one now that I don't have to be what I and many others call "lawful stupid" lol
Agreed. I hate being locked into lawfully aligned characters, it’s nice to have a bit more freedom with RP’ing.
I found Seelah in wotr funny too because because shes basically like “see being lawful good doesn’t have to be boring!” Without saying exactly those words 😂
The monk strikes back... and with a flurry of blows, too!
Balance is restored, and finally no BG3 Class is more equal then the others.
(LOL)
Thanks for your videos!
I know it may not synergize very well, but I've been doing a Warlock/Monk hybrid and having a blast. The tadpole things reminded me of the Magatama bugs from SMT: Nocturne, so I've tried to make a Demifiend build. Demonic magic, summons, persuasive skills to emulate negotiations, and hard hittinf unarmed strikes. Been a lot of fun so far, we'll see how it does as I get later into the game.
One more god rejected
That sounds really fun. I love Megaten so maybe I'll try that down the road
Awesome vid, I've been playing Monk and been having an absolute blast so far
I was SO excited for monk on release, and I love the gameplay so far! I went 4 elements monk but I might have to play around with the others
This is great! I was only able to play a bit before I had to work, so now I can watch this before continuing and maybe have a better clue what I'm doing. Thank you so much
Good job getting this out so quickly. Thank you!
Literally was looking for your monk video last night. Didn’t see it but decided to pull the trigger on that class anyway. Let’s see what happens!
My favorite multiclass was to go barbarian. Danger sense plus rage turned the monk into a good power house if you were ever stuck in a jam. Now that I don't need to focus on str to get rage damage, it should be even better.
The ending was great. I am playing a tempest cleric in my game and while watching this I was thinking that it might be good multiclass with monk so it was funny to have you reaffirm that thought right at the end. Good Video :3
Playing a tiefling monk, a race and class I’ve never played before, and I’m having so much fun!
BG3 is my first ever CRPG, and I chose a Half-Orc Monk as my first character. I'm barely 2 hours into the game so far, and still getting to grips with it (I'm playing on PS5) but my character, Tau, looks the business! I'm very happy with my choice, and will come back here a few times to get a better understanding of the choices open to me as I progress. Thanks for the useful information!
Wow I’m surprised you chose monk for a first play.
On my third play through and it’s been my favourite class so far I think.
Monk has ALWAYS been my fav class. Just becasue of the idea behind it honestly.
so when they do it right im in heaven. lol
Yeeeeeeees I've been waiting for it
Shadow monk sounds just like a ninja, I bet you could do a cool roleplay as a ninja from a far off land that washed ashore and has no way home.
Mooooooooonk! started my run already with it but still...Love your content
The quarterstaves/ staffs in this game slap so hard. You'd be surprised how many wizard casting sticks are better than the greatswords.
The base class was hugely buffed by removing several abilities from being unarmored. Makes multiclassing with monk go from mediocre to amazing. Especially with the Tavern Brawler feat being OP.
I was waiting for this! After some research I'm totally making a Ninja: 1 Level of Rogue for Expertise, then 7 Levels of Shadow Monk, then the rest Rogue Assassin.
Might want to squish gloomstalker ranger in there too, they are the "assassin" themed subclass for rangers.
In every souls game (I wish I could do it in Sekiro too) I played my first character as a naked guy punching shit to death.
The fact that there's an entire class about doing this is, weirdly enough, making me NOT want to play this, so I have no idea what I want my first character to be :(
Make a wizard/ sorcerer type that uses only punches and don't use any spells other than buffs! :)
Didn't know monks were like this. I mainly play JRPGs and monks in those games are more of a brawler type.
With some magic items you can kinda make that work. Late into chapter1 you can get gloves that set your dexterity to 18. Which let's you rework your character stats to be focused on str and wisdom instead of dex and wisdom for ac.
Combined with tavern brawler fest that let's you add double your str to attack and damage and you'll be hitting pretty hard.
Edit: Nvm, scratch that seems like Larian hardcoded monk's extra features to be dex only. Bonus action unarmed strike doesn't scale with str even if it's higher than dex, same for flurry of blows and stunning strike damage.
Thanks for showing the later monk subrace goodies - was looking all over for this information.
Thank you for nother useful guide on this great CRPG!!
Monk is my favorite class in tabletop version, especially when I can Kamehameha the enemy or Avatar-ed the enemy. Too bad Sun Soul isn't available for BG3.
Wait for either the Definitive edition, or fingers crossed an expansion or 2 in the form of act 4 or 5 giving us 4 levels each act. 🤞
Or Modders to make it.
I am basically trying to be a Jedi that I played in a DnD campaign irl. I chose monk and subclass warlock the great one. Seemed to work well
@@roninhare9615modders will make it first. Some madlad made monk with all the bg3 subclasses+kensei+mercy+long death for the last early access patch.
What is the exact wording that defines a "monk weapon" in the game? Is it just a weapon that you are proficient with? If so, does that mean I could use a Dwarf Monk and wield a Warhammer with no drawbacks?
I would have appreciated a overview of the 4 elements Regardless of them sharing abilities with other classes
Larian said at the last Panel form Hell that any weapon a monk is proficient in is considered a Monk Weapon, so I have been thinking about a fighter 4 (Battle Master) Monk 8 weilding a Glaive and taking the Polearm Master feat, then the Sentinel Feat and be the ultimate battlefield controller with multiple atracks with reach from the polearm, potentially many AoO in a round from Polearm Mastery and Sentinel, and flurry of blows. This is dependent on Larian being truthful and letting me use a glaive as a monk weapon, though.
For the Battlefield Master manuevers, I'd take some combination of menacing attack, perry, riposte, sweeping attack, and trip attack.
But if BG3 doesn't let me use the Glaive and flurry of blows, than this build isn't as good. So I'll have to see.
IDk how that works my man. I have been trying to use greatswords as my main weapon but it doesnt seem to proc the unnarmed attack. Event thought i have proficiency
Any weapon proficiency you have can be considered a monk weapon yes HOWEVER any weapon that have the two handed or heavy tag are no go. So... no you can't punch people while using a greatsword or Glaive, but can still use the rather decent versatile weapons, like longsword, Warhammers and spears if you have the proficiencies for it.
@@jonhmata Does long spears work too?
@@MenteSanJogoSalvo Spear and Tridents can be used as they are considered versatile so can be used one handed, you can't use it with Pikes, Halberds and glaives cause those are only two handed
@@jonhmata bummer, I really wanted to hit with reach.
I have been playing monks sense 2e. Love my glass canons.
Monk is my favorite class, so I'm really excited to see it get some good upgrades!
I love the idea of a monk 11 /druid 1 - just for the Shillelagh cantrip
For style reasons? or would it be strong?I would think that Shillelagh wouldn't scale at all if only Druid 1, right? For that matter I'm not even familiar if it scales _normally._
I really love the monk class in bg3 really amazing.
I think a good reason to go monk is that none of the 10 companions are one. Kind of missing out on some neat stuff otherwise. I suppose it's not really _content,_ but it's _kind of_ minor content, still something to experience.
While there are other classes also missing, something like a paladin or sorcerer probably isn't to special compared to other classes. Although maybe I'm wrong since one could argue the same about the monk maybe.
Your logo reminds me of those collectible skulls in N64 Banjo Kazooie
I've been waiting for this one. Once I heard monk was in the game I set my sights on using a shadow monk on my first playthrough.
Yeah I'm sold. This class sounds really fun to role play
So far im having a good time with my monk cleric, the dialogue options are pretty fun.
This or Paladin is most likely gonna be what I play if I do another playthrough. Watching CR and seeing Beauregard doing all sorts of crazy awesome things as a monk makes me want to play that
Same but first playthrough
recently started a dark urge monks because i thought it would provide interesting flavour RP wise
im actually trying todo a solo run with unarmed heavy armour tavern battle master....so far its been yeetin people or erasing goblins with my palm
I was hoping for Sunsoul as an option, that's the monk I was playing in 5e.
I was going to go Bard but a Baki Hanma build sounds pretty cool.
Even waiting two years for this
Seeing the background footage using a Githyanki Monk makes me wish Githzerai made it into the game. Dak'kon was an awesome companion.
I really hope we get the Way of the Kensei subclass option from the table top.
I wish they added the Monk of the Long Death subclass, really cool roleplay potential. Maybe in a DLC.
How did they make the Monk better than WOTC
Been goin a str barb monk bc i love my brawlers in games. DnD/Turn based isnt my usual thing, but hearing such good things about BG3 and hearing the shenanigans my friends would get into, i picked it up for a 4p playthrough and am now wanting to do singleplayer so i can actually hear the story!
Mort: Did you ever do a Monk/Rogue build video? I have had a quick look and couldnt find one, so I assume you didnt (next question: Will you? pretty please?)
Nudist monk is the build ill use for my next playthrough lol
I remember monk being OP in og Neverwinter nights
I am rolling a Monk now and I'm not too happy with it. I think I am not as familiar with the class as I am with the others to give it a proper run through. Thank God Larian put in respecs!!
Monk is basically a Battle Support class. They're highly mobile and have several Utility focused features. Their direct damage leaves something to be desired, and most of the time they become a 'Stunning Blow' dispenser, trying to incapacitate enemies so teammates can crank out high damage numbers. The free Invisibility and teleports on the Shadow Monk can be great fun though; even with the tabletop rules.
@@XoRandomGuyoX True, but that Str build Tavern Brawler changes things. The mobility is amazing. Each level gives you an extra ki also. Whew
This class looks SO FUN
Been waiting on this
Not played DnD or Balder’s Gate before but a Gloom Stalker + Shadow Monk Wood Elf seems like it might be a cool choice.
I would LOVE if they added the Way of the Ascendant Dragon subclass to this.
Awesome video Mort. I'm curious to see if there's any natural attack/unarmed attack interactions through items or multiclasses
How to make a monk without armour who is how true monks should be , kick ass and don’t be squishy is the challenge
I can't wait for homebrew classes :)
There's a Kung-fu, Mr. T, Foo Fighters joke in here somewhere. Onward to 300k. All glory to the algorithm.
Monk in Baldur's Gate 2 is extremely powerful. literally, 1 punch man any enemy. Even Firkraag.
I am playing a strength based monk. So far, so good 👍
Aren't you losing out on AC by going strength instead of dex?
@@tahirravat131 I am keeping dex also high, but for roleplaying purposes I just need to be strength-focused.
@@tahirravat131 Dip into Eldritch Knight for martial weapon proficiency, action surge, and mage armor spell to help mitigate the lower AC. You're essentially trading some AC for more varied weapon options (better able to handle resistances) and small bump to base damage as a result. In exchange for a few less AC. While also not stepping on the toes of any Rogue or other melee dex character in the group. Because then you'd have two people to decide on who gets the good Rapier weapon. lol
@@andersfrieden567 Ah I see, well I'd guess your wisdom is probably low if you have high Strength and Dex. Wisdom also boosts your AC for monks by the way.
@@tahirravat131 this is a very specific build, I'd say. So far I am ok, but later maybe will try multiclassing it with warrior or barbarian.
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roll a reflex save against free comment. oops you failed =/
Amazing video!
Way of Mercy would be a nice addition.
Would multiclassing 2 levels into fighter be a good bet? To get action surge and weapon proficiencies? I feel like action surge on a Way of the open hand Monk would go absolutely crazy
Fighter multiclasses well with everything to some degree thanks to action surge so the answer there is always yes
Fighting with the power of anime in every kick and punch.
I love monks, monks still aren’t very strong in 5e or in bg3. However you can make a fairly strong monk pretty easily. I like shadow monk assassin rogue for all of the stealth advantages and sneak attack opportunities you can create. Especially with the ‘Watchers Guide’ green spear available in the act 1 temple. Any miss gives the next attack advantage ergo sneak attack. Use this on a flurry of blows and both strikes actually get advantage instead of just one.
what feats did u choose
Great my hajime no ippo build lives on
Actually pretty convinced to try monk, I fell in love with monk when they turned up in Neverwinter Nights but I know they weak af in latest editions after being op according to others 😂
Pathfinder monk can be pretty cool (in tabletop, IDK about the videogame). At least in 1st edition (3.5e D&D), IDK about 2nd ed (which not 5th ed D&D, but simplified in a similar manner as it)
Monk Warlock could be fun too. Shadow Monk, get enough Warlock levels to get invocations and grab Devil's Sight and whatever other invocation you want. Then you can cast darkness that you can see through with Ki points and use Warlock spell slots for Armor of Agathys and Arms of Hadar.
So is this now the only way to see through your own cast magical darkness? Other option discussed in EA was blind fighting style, but that doesn't made it into the game right? Also do you think sentinel feat is mandatory to keep them from simply running out of the darkness?
@@DangermikeXyou could also get the eldritch invocation from warlock that allows you to just always see through any darkness
@@GrimViridian Yeah, that's Devil's Sight like I said in my original comment.
@@DangermikeX Yeah I believe this is the only way to see through magical darkness. I could be wrong though, I haven't even gotten to Baldur's Gate yet in my playthrough so there could very well be more ways. Sentinel would be a fantastic pickup for this strategy too. If you can get Wyll proficiency with some kind of polearm you could also potentially pick up polearm master as well to make it even more ridiculous.
@@Skaftholu I was probably very tired when I commented, oops lol
Time to make a Half-Orc Monk baby!
I wish they eventally give us the all the other subclasses that have come over the years. I yearn for an Astral Fist Monk
Wait for mods :D
Another great video and thank you so much for sharing it with the gaming community.And I can't wait to get my hands on the game, even though I have to wait until September, because I am playing on PS5.And I was thinking of playing a dual wielding Shadow monk ranger,so what do you think,I would like your in put thank you in advance
Yeah you could do it
I imagine a multiclass of monk and sorcerer would be very interesting.
Also not very good.
Will you be making updates to the other class guides to include the full release information? Such as fir the higher levels and missing subclasses as they are implemented?
Probably not, wasnt the purpose of the videos to begin with, and they didnt change the others nearly as much
@@MortismalGaming
They didn't change much, but they did get 7 new levels, and some new sub classes.
Not a lot of info out there yet about the classes beyond what was available in EA, and the game doesn't let you read ahead what you will receive (these are times I miss game manuals).
A short review or ranking of the subclasses compared to each other comes to mind.
This video didn’t answer my question. I would like to play a quarterstaff monk but none of the subclasses seem to utilise the weapon. Also, I hoped that strength 16 would be useful since the ingame character sheet seems to imply that Monk prioritises STR/DEX…
They have done a really good work on monk! They feel super good! nyway in the other video I wrote wrong my question for you, do you know if *eldritch smite* from the eldritch invocation is in the game ? Thank you in case you can help me
I know this isn't a Monk Question, but I can't find the answer anywhere.
AT what difficulty do Friends & Charm backfire? Normal? Tactical? really wish the tool tip was clearer what is meant by "higher difficulties"
I like what they did with Chi because for some reason in the West people think that chi is not mana but in reality, in Asian fantasy and mythology; it’s mana because it’s just a source of magic; it is just a different form of mana.
What
@@LeJazzPanda my stupid phone couldn’t understand what I said to it, I was driving so I had to comment through voice. I commute 2 1/2 hour to work so I wasn’t going to text and drive.
Chi is not mana I don't care what part of the world you are from.
Monk is my favorite class in dnd but those are the worst subclasses available, I guess that's why they needed to do some buffing. As it stands I low-key dislike all three subclasses and I am having second thoughts on going as a monk, not to mention that having just 3 ASI means you are always going to have a subpar AC, especially since you are going to want to forgo one to pick up mobile as well, and that's assuming you don't multiclass or things get even worse. The only one I can stomach in table-top is open-hand for the late-game kill at Will whoever you touched, which is great for roleplaying, the aoe isn't as attractive to me... So idk, I think I'll decide in character creation and go where my Heart takes me. If I were Larian I would have added an extra ASI at level 10, that would have made monk a much more viable option and enabled some multiclassing options for late game. Who knows though, maybe Larian made it easy to gain ability points through playing, which would make monk more viable, as it stands needing a High Dex and wisdom, mobile, and a decent constitution seems like a tall order and at the very least highly restrictive in terms of roleplaying, but we'll see.
i just played 3 hours of monk, pretty good imo