V1 is junk, left side issue seems to be common, mine have way just after warranty with minimal use. I'll pass on v2, not taking another punt on a kishi controller
I was tempted in getting a V2 the other day but the price was really high, £100 from most retailers and the lowest I could find was £70 from online sellers so I couldn't justify paying that much for a controller I am only using for Genshin Impact. I picked up a second hand V1 for £25 second hand today and it works perfectly, honesty I am really impressed with this controller despite some very minor nitpicks like the lack of spacers and the grip could be slightly better, but for the price I got it for I can't complain.
Due to the soft back of the V1, the wires get messed up more and more as it is collapsed and opened. Get a hardback if you don’t wanna replace yours every 1 to 2 years
@BTFOxMARIOPRO13 I've had my V1 for 18 months now. The issue you described has not happened on mine. It's like most things, if you look after it, it'll last a long time.
PRO TIP:....What many people forget or dont realize is that you can also connect your samsung phone via DEX and play your emulator games on your smart tv wirelessly which makes it even more badass with the controller.💪😎 Havnt seen any videos on that.
No headphone jack or passthrough which makes it a deal breaker :( the clicky nature might also be too loud for use in bed when the Mrs is watching some TV
Really wish they would make one with the Dpad in the top position for people focusing on dpad centric games. I feel like the ergonomics on this would get difficult after a while.
Being joycons while way unappealing to some is actually best when dealing with a small screen like that. The travel distance plus screen size I feel regular size sticks are more difficult with small screens.
how practical would it be for the controler (if it connects via USB C) to have an SD card slot in the controller itself? This would be awesome for a huge emulation library
I have the kishi v1 and the only downside about it is that the flex cable that goes with the elastic band when you fold it down tends to rupture and it gives an error that one side of the controller doesn’t works over time. What i did with mine is that I bought on ebay a few spare cables to change it when it ruptures again. Honestly the v1 controller works amazing and don’t see any real “upgrade” with the new v2, but that’s my opinion 🤷🏽♂️. I had mine v1 for over a year now and the only thing that malfunction was that flex cable but its an easy and cheap fix honestly.
@@Kielbass for what I have read everywhere I could, that's a common issue with the v1. Because you fold the controller over time the internal flex cable raptures and malfunctions. I bought a pack of like 10 cables for like 7 bucks I think. And the fix is relatively easy if you are not afraid using screw drivers and opening it up. To be honest I gave mine to a friend that is more skilled than me to do it but for what I could watch its easy, next time I will do it myself. You just have to remove the 5 screws on each side of the controller and with a pry tool or like a guitar pick you can open it up. The conector to the cable on each side is right there you can't miss it. Just be careful because the conector has like a lock that you have to open first and then close after you put the new cable. I will leave you the link for the cable here www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09R9CXVP6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade the joysticks are like backbone and Nintendo switch joysticks and the same design as backbone which my backbone joysticks stopped working and I’ve only had it for 5 months and barely used it since getting a Xbox elite series 2 controller
Thank you for the info! One more thing to ask: Is this controller work normally with Xbox app (to play Xbox remotely on the smartphone), xCloud and Playstation remote play (to play PS4/PS5 remotely)? Thank you!
@@WhatGear yup I second this ah speaking of which if you got a PS4 or 5 I'd probably recommend psplay it's really the best version of remote play I have it myself and it wait for it also has controller support (cue heaven noises)
compact designed gone and downgrade analog sticks and buttons, hmmm all for more phone to fit. definalty will wait for huge price drop and stick to my V1.
Turns out I can't use it, my phone has a huge ass camera , namely mi 12s ultra, the backbone makes it slant to one side , while V1 would just push the fabric backwards and fit it perfectly
RE: The dedicated screenshot button. Is there a way to disable the insanely loud shutter sound that it plays when you take a screenshot with that dedicated screenshot button? Even if you have earbuds on it plays a LOUD shutter sound out of the phone speaker, not the earbuds. I see no options for it in the Nexus software. I have the shutter sound turned off at the OS level in the camera app and via the button combo for system screenshots. Pressing that dedicated button on the Kishi V2 still blasts a LOUD shutter sound through the phone speakers when you press it. It's so loud that it will turn heads in a room. As a result, I will never use that button because it's incredibly annoying to others around you. I've reached out to Razer support but so far I've not heard back from them on whether or not this is something that is intended (which would be insane IMO - making such a LOUD sound mandatory is absolutely something you should speak to if that were the case, because it's enough of an issue to recommend avoiding the use of the button if annoying those arounds you is a concern) or if it's an issue and needs to be updated.
I mean turning down the volume comes to mind and that's all you can do for now either that or mute it ah speaking of which fun bonus fact for ya in Japan no matter what phone you buy it has a loud sorry very loud shutter sound to prevent perverts from taking up skirt photos or voyeurism if you will ah you can also possibly remap it to do something different on the razer nexus app
@@meric12131415 since I posted this I have two friends who also got one of these. The person with the Galaxy S22 (like me) has this issue as well. The other person who does not have an S22 does not experience the same issue. I reached out to Razer and it sounds like this is a bug, but their tech support loop is super convoluted, so I'm not sure if they plan on fixing it for S22 users.
It definitely worth the upgrade over the garbage of the gamepad the v1 still is today. I got my Kishi V2 at msrp and haven't regretted it ever since, plug in a usb-c extension cable and you have yourself a nice pc game controller as well. The shorter travel distance with the Switch style sticks also means you can reduce movement in the ball and joint of your thumb for much reduced joint fatigue and increased gaming sessions.
Yes I love it more then the kishi v1 and the backbone I know it copied the backbone but a lot better to me I have the kishi v2 for iOS! I love it so much I use a iPhone 8 Plus
Can the razer kishi v1 support the iqoo neo 6 with a case . I recently ordered the razer kishi v1 because I got it for 60 usd while the v2 costs around 150 usd here .
The great thing about the GameSir is the modifications & the GameSir button mapping app & the cooling...and you get a carry case & cable. The good thing about the Kishi the overall build quality & additional triggers…the GameSir X3 is better value at this point.
@@WhatGear good to know! Been considering one for my android. Just got my Kishi V1 for my iPhone. Quality-wise I agree Kishi will definitely be better, Gamesir wise I like the Kalih switch, but the fan is just too bulky.
Good video, thanks. One small bit of constructive criticism. Batman may seem like a twitch game that needs lightning fast reactions to counter etc. but actually it's much slower paced than you think. E.g. Counters are on screen for a LONG time, about a second plus, the window is VERY generous. Would do better to try an actual twitch reaction game like an FPS or fast racer.
I am super interested in this kishi v2. I'm more in shooting games like COD and PUBG. But also recently started playing football games like FIFA mobile and PES. Would this be something for me?? BTW also have the s22 ultra. Amazing phone
V1 was once you removed the rubber covers. I now have s22 ultra with V1, with a Spigen armor slim,removed the rubber,and it fits very snug,and very well. I assume V2 is even more open
From Jamaica I have a question What if I’m playing a mobile game with the razer kishi V1 and the mobile game doesn’t support controller in settings Can the racer kishi map keys to work for a non controller supported game?
YES EXACTLY I’m most interested in the D-Pad and Kirby: Squeak Squad is unplayable with how often the RK V1 registers up (or down), when it is my intention to press left or right on the D-Pad.
Prolly said before but COD and Apex mobile works with the kishi v2 if you connect a Bluetooth controller (xb or ps) while it's connected. Also I made a video on my channel a few days ago on how this is THE GREATEST MOBILE CONTROLLER FOR FPS GAMES. Seriously check it out. I'll show you why.
yeah, got it working that way to play Apex mobile, just have to remember to press a button on BT controller every now and then, otherwise it shuts down (sometimes mid game. ehehe). I have however not gotten it to work with CoD. Any advice there @ipetloudog? I barely use the right stick, find the screen to be much more accurate than the joystick, left stick and triggers are game changers though
I just got the 2. I've had the one for a few months. Huge upgrade in small ways. I think the joycons are a way better choice for the phone. I feel the short sticks and short screen match way more than regular size sticks. Maybe I'm just real used to the switch. While I'm still trying to just eliminate another handheld and take full advantage of my cloud services. The 2 deff feels like I'm playing on more of a console than the first one which I feel is like hey now my phone can play good games. Button placements and movement just really make it an easier gaming experience. Best example I can give is fps games. Really feel with the original I am having to move my hands more my fingers more and awkward to move my sights around is chore like. With the 2 it is fluid your hands are in place unless you're stretching them during breaks. I have this strange desire to keep my phone as my steamdeck and the 2 super helps.
Well yes it is, but it also costs a lot more. The point of something like this is it turns your phone into a mobile gaming device. The Switch on the other hand can't be turned into a phone.
The Kishi V1 is now often on sale under $40, hella worth it!
Just bought mine for 40 bucks today at Walmart💪🏾
@@CHAMPl982 nice. I just ordered the Xbox version from MS website using their reward system. Looking forward to it. How's yours so far?
V1 is junk, left side issue seems to be common, mine have way just after warranty with minimal use. I'll pass on v2, not taking another punt on a kishi controller
Does the V1 fit the S 23 Ultra?
@Mazza666 You must have got a bad unit, because I've had mine for 18 months with no issues.
I was tempted in getting a V2 the other day but the price was really high, £100 from most retailers and the lowest I could find was £70 from online sellers so I couldn't justify paying that much for a controller I am only using for Genshin Impact. I picked up a second hand V1 for £25 second hand today and it works perfectly, honesty I am really impressed with this controller despite some very minor nitpicks like the lack of spacers and the grip could be slightly better, but for the price I got it for I can't complain.
you can use controller for genshin on phone?
I'm sure the V2 is for someone, but I'm not that person. The V1 is objectively more portable and a better price point.
That was the slickest ad placement ever lol. Incredibly smooth transition to talk about the wallet
Interesting but i think ill stay with V1 because i bought it last year and it works perfectly fine . Maybe when it breaks, ill get this one
Lol same 😂
Due to the soft back of the V1, the wires get messed up more and more as it is collapsed and opened. Get a hardback if you don’t wanna replace yours every 1 to 2 years
@BTFOxMARIOPRO13 I've had my V1 for 18 months now. The issue you described has not happened on mine. It's like most things, if you look after it, it'll last a long time.
Update: you can no map the buttons to the touchscreen with the nexus app. It works really well.
PRO TIP:....What many people forget or dont realize is that you can also connect your samsung phone via DEX and play your emulator games on your smart tv wirelessly which makes it even more badass with the controller.💪😎 Havnt seen any videos on that.
That is a Pro tip! I never thought of that 🔥
Cool 😁
Ok. I need to try that.
No headphone jack or passthrough which makes it a deal breaker :( the clicky nature might also be too loud for use in bed when the Mrs is watching some TV
Really wish they would make one with the Dpad in the top position for people focusing on dpad centric games. I feel like the ergonomics on this would get difficult after a while.
Why anyone would buy this at $129 over the Kishi v1 at $69 (CAD) blows my mind. The switch style sticks alone make this an absolute brain dead buy
I just got the v1 for 25$ so I don't think I'll upgrade soon. But the v2 looks like a nice upgrade if I ever get it on sale
yo how ?
@@FFE0 eBay
Being joycons while way unappealing to some is actually best when dealing with a small screen like that. The travel distance plus screen size I feel regular size sticks are more difficult with small screens.
how practical would it be for the controler (if it connects via USB C) to have an SD card slot in the controller itself? This would be awesome for a huge emulation library
Just download the games on your phone
@@Liamegg27 missing the point but yeah. For phones with no as card slot to expand the storage pottential
Why?
Sony are one of the only ones to keep SD cards on their flagship phones
@@maximada2003 for phones that don't have SD card slots? Just swap from your shitty iPhone. Android flexibility is awesome!
the only thing I dont like from the V1 is the dpad, nice to see the improvement. but I wont be upgrading until my v1 breaks.
Is that a Switch emulator? Which one is that? Also, are you playing Mario Aces lol. That's dope
I don't think he used a switch emulators. The only reliable switch emulator I know is egg ns emulator which requires a gamesir x2 ubc controller
Highlighted everything I was looking for. Thank you sir
This paired with gamepass is an amazing experience.
Such a great video keep it up bro
I tried using the V2 using the mantis pro, sadly it doesn't work well unlike the Kishi V1
it's on sale on the Xbox store..do u know if it's the V1 or V2?
I'll stick with my gamesir x2 until the kishi v3 comes out with a cooler like the x3
V3 needs to be the V2 but with the bands. I HATE the new design. You cant throw it on your pocket or a small bag, its just too big.
I have the kishi v1 and the only downside about it is that the flex cable that goes with the elastic band when you fold it down tends to rupture and it gives an error that one side of the controller doesn’t works over time.
What i did with mine is that I bought on ebay a few spare cables to change it when it ruptures again. Honestly the v1 controller works amazing and don’t see any real “upgrade” with the new v2, but that’s my opinion 🤷🏽♂️. I had mine v1 for over a year now and the only thing that malfunction was that flex cable but its an easy and cheap fix honestly.
hey man! could you elaborate on that flex cable part :D how easy is it to fix it if it goes funky?
@@Kielbass for what I have read everywhere I could, that's a common issue with the v1. Because you fold the controller over time the internal flex cable raptures and malfunctions. I bought a pack of like 10 cables for like 7 bucks I think. And the fix is relatively easy if you are not afraid using screw drivers and opening it up. To be honest I gave mine to a friend that is more skilled than me to do it but for what I could watch its easy, next time I will do it myself. You just have to remove the 5 screws on each side of the controller and with a pry tool or like a guitar pick you can open it up. The conector to the cable on each side is right there you can't miss it. Just be careful because the conector has like a lock that you have to open first and then close after you put the new cable. I will leave you the link for the cable here
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09R9CXVP6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@alexgr87 thanks a lot man, seems managable :D
What tablet were you using at 6:00 to play Mario tennis?
Galaxy Z fold 3
It doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade the joysticks are like backbone and Nintendo switch joysticks and the same design as backbone which my backbone joysticks stopped working and I’ve only had it for 5 months and barely used it since getting a Xbox elite series 2 controller
The mechanical buttons on the V2 are a huge upgrade from the V1. That, alone, is enough to buy it for me.
The mechanical buttons are not a huge upgrade, they're just an upgrade. Still nowhere near as good as the buttons on an actual Xbox Series controller
they both look equally awesome
Thank you for the info!
One more thing to ask: Is this controller work normally with Xbox app (to play Xbox remotely on the smartphone), xCloud and Playstation remote play (to play PS4/PS5 remotely)? Thank you!
It works perfectly with Xbox game pass
@@WhatGear yup I second this ah speaking of which if you got a PS4 or 5 I'd probably recommend psplay it's really the best version of remote play I have it myself and it wait for it also has controller support (cue heaven noises)
why arent they making one for tablets. gaming on these phones is pathetic.
Maybe, but phones these days have screens bigger than portable systems prior to the Nintendo Switch, and those were pretty great.
What internet speeds are needed to be competitive?
This video doesn't show what the V1 looks like at all, so it's of limited use to people unfamiliar with these products.
compact designed gone and downgrade analog sticks and buttons, hmmm all for more phone to fit. definalty will wait for huge price drop and stick to my V1.
What makes the analog sticks worse? Less travel? They seem like the Nintendo switches one so that might lead to drift.
Hi! Will Arena Breakout work?
I prefer getting the v1 still
You can find it for around $23
Does the V2 work with iPad Mini?
How wide is the iPad mini in landscape?
@@WhatGear 7.9 inches.
@@GadZookz unfortunately not I think this maxes out at around 7”
Does it support phones like Dimensity 900? Realme 10 pro 5g plus?
Turns out I can't use it, my phone has a huge ass camera , namely mi 12s ultra, the backbone makes it slant to one side , while V1 would just push the fabric backwards and fit it perfectly
RE: The dedicated screenshot button. Is there a way to disable the insanely loud shutter sound that it plays when you take a screenshot with that dedicated screenshot button? Even if you have earbuds on it plays a LOUD shutter sound out of the phone speaker, not the earbuds. I see no options for it in the Nexus software. I have the shutter sound turned off at the OS level in the camera app and via the button combo for system screenshots. Pressing that dedicated button on the Kishi V2 still blasts a LOUD shutter sound through the phone speakers when you press it. It's so loud that it will turn heads in a room. As a result, I will never use that button because it's incredibly annoying to others around you. I've reached out to Razer support but so far I've not heard back from them on whether or not this is something that is intended (which would be insane IMO - making such a LOUD sound mandatory is absolutely something you should speak to if that were the case, because it's enough of an issue to recommend avoiding the use of the button if annoying those arounds you is a concern) or if it's an issue and needs to be updated.
I mean turning down the volume comes to mind and that's all you can do for now either that or mute it ah speaking of which fun bonus fact for ya in Japan no matter what phone you buy it has a loud sorry very loud shutter sound to prevent perverts from taking up skirt photos or voyeurism if you will ah you can also possibly remap it to do something different on the razer nexus app
@@meric12131415 since I posted this I have two friends who also got one of these. The person with the Galaxy S22 (like me) has this issue as well. The other person who does not have an S22 does not experience the same issue. I reached out to Razer and it sounds like this is a bug, but their tech support loop is super convoluted, so I'm not sure if they plan on fixing it for S22 users.
@@MarkRabold you never know anything is possible and could happen 😁 I mean it's razer they always support their products to some extent
@@MarkRabold yea. I got the s22u. Realized that and never use the button.
Where did you get your batman wallpaper?
Hi bro, with the V2, I can play COD without other software or control in android?
How about playing COD mobile? Do we still need to Connect a Bluetooth PS or Xbox controller like on the first gen Kishi
You can use mantis pro. It works well once it’s set up.
It definitely worth the upgrade over the garbage of the gamepad the v1 still is today. I got my Kishi V2 at msrp and haven't regretted it ever since, plug in a usb-c extension cable and you have yourself a nice pc game controller as well. The shorter travel distance with the Switch style sticks also means you can reduce movement in the ball and joint of your thumb for much reduced joint fatigue and increased gaming sessions.
Yes I love it more then the kishi v1 and the backbone I know it copied the backbone but a lot better to me I have the kishi v2 for iOS!
I love it so much I use a iPhone 8 Plus
And i agree the joysticks are good
Is the analog height the same ??
Can the razer kishi v1 support the iqoo neo 6 with a case . I recently ordered the razer kishi v1 because I got it for 60 usd while the v2 costs around 150 usd here .
If you had to choose one, Gamesir X3 or Kishi V2?
The great thing about the GameSir is the modifications & the GameSir button mapping app & the cooling...and you get a carry case & cable. The good thing about the Kishi the overall build quality & additional triggers…the GameSir X3 is better value at this point.
@@WhatGear good to know! Been considering one for my android. Just got my Kishi V1 for my iPhone. Quality-wise I agree Kishi will definitely be better, Gamesir wise I like the Kalih switch, but the fan is just too bulky.
Nah gamesir x2 is the best or kishi v2 don't use x3
Does this not have a headphone jack?
Good video, thanks. One small bit of constructive criticism. Batman may seem like a twitch game that needs lightning fast reactions to counter etc. but actually it's much slower paced than you think. E.g. Counters are on screen for a LONG time, about a second plus, the window is VERY generous. Would do better to try an actual twitch reaction game like an FPS or fast racer.
But can you play call of duty without having to pair and second controller like you have to do with the v1
The quality is not the best. Mine broke in less than a year.
definately an upgrade from the v1! Razor of course make some top gear. Cheers brother.
i hope you can just change the port so people doesn't need to buy kishi for android and iphone if tehy have 2 smartphones like me.
Does the razer kishi V2 support brawlhalla?
I have the V1 Android. Its annoying to play Tekken 5 & 6 via emulator with the D-pad on Kishi V1. I hope the V2 fixed it.
It does become its a mix of click and mushy it’s more tactical
Im having trouble with the over sensitive analog sticks. I can hardly play fps games. Can i change the settings or do i need to get used to it?
May i know which version are you using? V1 or V2?
@@SR3zzY yes sir. I have the V2.
I am super interested in this kishi v2. I'm more in shooting games like COD and PUBG. But also recently started playing football games like FIFA mobile and PES. Would this be something for me??
BTW also have the s22 ultra. Amazing phone
Yes! The only downside is it can be tricky to map buttons on unsupported games
Great device for gamers💯
0:22 " it has the things people loved "
And also features removed 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 . Like console quality joystick and membrane buttons.
Great video review! misleading screenshot lol! cod mobile is not compatible for kishi Android =(
May i enquire if someone knows if the list of compatible games of kishi v2 is bigger then v1? Or are the differences just physical?
I was wondering if Kishi v2 will be compatible with Samsung Note 20 Ultra?
V1 was once you removed the rubber covers. I now have s22 ultra with V1, with a Spigen armor slim,removed the rubber,and it fits very snug,and very well. I assume V2 is even more open
@@dark1thor thanks :)
From Jamaica
I have a question
What if I’m playing a mobile game with the razer kishi V1 and the mobile game doesn’t support controller in settings
Can the racer kishi map keys to work for a non controller supported game?
As he said: remap with Mantis Gamepad Pro
they literally just copied the backbone one controller..
Ikrrr and now this controller is for iOS so dumb I like my backbone better
Just wondering if the d pad is accurate?
I hate the v1 dpad, pressing up/down sometimes activates the left/right pad. So annoying
YES EXACTLY
I’m most interested in the D-Pad and Kirby: Squeak Squad is unplayable with how often the RK V1 registers up (or down), when it is my intention to press left or right on the D-Pad.
The v2 dpad is solid asf I have the v2 for iOS and it’s way better then the v1 and backbone
Prolly said before but COD and Apex mobile works with the kishi v2 if you connect a Bluetooth controller (xb or ps) while it's connected. Also I made a video on my channel a few days ago on how this is THE GREATEST MOBILE CONTROLLER FOR FPS GAMES.
Seriously check it out. I'll show you why.
yeah, got it working that way to play Apex mobile, just have to remember to press a button on BT controller every now and then, otherwise it shuts down (sometimes mid game. ehehe).
I have however not gotten it to work with CoD. Any advice there @ipetloudog?
I barely use the right stick, find the screen to be much more accurate than the joystick, left stick and triggers are game changers though
So this doesn't work with apex or cod without the extra controller ???
@@aboveworld8209 correct
Hi guys, has anyone tried it with RedMagic 9 pro?
What's the batman game
On Xbox Game Pass. Arkham City…one of the greatest Xbox games in my opinion
Razer Kishi V1 is THE gamepad to get for Android/iOS gaming. It will insanely improve your experience. Touch screen is sh!t for gaming.
Backbone is still way better stop paying attention to the joysticks
Touch screen depends on your phone
Lol looks like a backbone knockoff
I have the kishi v2 for iOS it’s way better to me I had the backbone too and the kishi v2 is way better
Backbone is garbage
They are downgrades they feel like switch joycons
I just got the 2. I've had the one for a few months. Huge upgrade in small ways. I think the joycons are a way better choice for the phone. I feel the short sticks and short screen match way more than regular size sticks. Maybe I'm just real used to the switch. While I'm still trying to just eliminate another handheld and take full advantage of my cloud services. The 2 deff feels like I'm playing on more of a console than the first one which I feel is like hey now my phone can play good games. Button placements and movement just really make it an easier gaming experience.
Best example I can give is fps games. Really feel with the original I am having to move my hands more my fingers more and awkward to move my sights around is chore like. With the 2 it is fluid your hands are in place unless you're stretching them during breaks. I have this strange desire to keep my phone as my steamdeck and the 2 super helps.
love the design of it..looks nice..
Switch Lite is better
Well yes it is, but it also costs a lot more. The point of something like this is it turns your phone into a mobile gaming device. The Switch on the other hand can't be turned into a phone.
Says the switch fanboy there's a lot more better portable consoles besides your precious switch 😂