This is amazing. I just pre-ordered the Z Fold 4 and was worried I'd have to give up this type of controller option for XCLOUD etc. Thank you so much, ordering now!
This is a great review! Thanks! Very happy you did a great input lag test as well, that is important for me when considering wired vs wireless and a question I'm constantly wondering.
Yo this is the best controller I ever got... It's so damn nice!!!!! Omg... It's so great. I never give a s*** about things I buy but this is honestly one of the items I bought in my life that I'm just super super happy about
Nice review! Love that latency experiment at the end! 95 ms seems a bit terrible though right? I've played online games with a 100 ms lag and got annihilated because of it, I wouldn't like the perspective of another 100 on top of that.
Hmmm digged around some more and that is total system latency, ie it involves th engine picking up your input, performing the action and then rendering it as well, so, a lot more going on than just the controller latency. It would be interesting to repeat the same test with an USB-C controller (having almost 0 latency) so we can know latency for the rest of the factors and subtract it from the total system latency to get the Bluetooth controller latency
Placed an order on their website for one of these. Basically I needed a controller that would allow be to keep my case on along with a USB-C charging port (cough MOGA cough). Thanks for the review, gives me piece of mind
This is exqxrly what I was looking for, thanks for this dude. I need better analog sticks than the flimsy ones on the switch and other portable controllers.
I was thinking of the backbone one android vs nacon mg x pro, Your video helped me alot and made me decide the nacon mg x pro is the one for me, Thanx😁👍🏽
Thanks for the video but you need to repeat the latency test multiple times as well as compare to other wireless controllers and wired controllers. I think 100ms of latency would be obviously noticeable so I question how much is just how animations work in that gc game or how much is intrinsic to the dolphin emulator itself. There's too many confounders
This is the sickest handheld controller for phones ever! Wtf it can even hold a tablet, ....I was think the razor with usb C.....but I was thinking about the tablet. If I get 1 it's bridles this 1 It's isn't a tablet...its a fold...I dont know the sizes of that.But this thing is pretty slick
Thanks for the video, I've been wanting to see this controller with the fold since discovering it as it looked like the perfect combination. It's a bit of a shame it has the bottom lip to hold the phone as I'd prefer to centre the phone (especially in portrait) but I'm sure I can cut that off (I've already hacked my kishi to fit my fold3 but it's just not comfortable enough)
So you did show the input lag via emulator but when I play emulators with my series s controller I don't notice any input lag but when I play games on game pass ultimate (even at home on strong wifi) the input lag is so bad most games feel unplayable. Gears of war wasn't as bad but Doom eternal was absolutely unplayable. Do you notice that this device has any less input lag via game pass games than a series x/s controller since it is supposed to be made for game pass?
This is the total latency not the input latency. So all you can say is the input latency is under 100ms. Using an emulator is especially bad for this too, as you've got lots of extra IO layers being emulated in software.
This thing outright kills any other Android controller, even the Kishi. I've used a lot of Android controllers, this one is king. Xbox sticks placement ftw!
Hi, nice review, thanks. Question: did you have any issue with the screen of your fold z 3 after using the Controller ? I broke mine using the classic nacon
Which screen broke, the main screen or the smaller front screen and how? Curious because I'm really interested in this controller but don't want to break my Fold 5
I got my new and shiny Z Fold 4 and I am looking for a USB-C controller because I hate Input lag. This controller, however, seems to be a good option 👍🏻
@@robertquintanilla6042 Really! Cool! I was more and more convinced about buying the new Gamesir X2 pro, but I like more the design of this controller.
Hi @WhatGear! Thanks for a great review. I have a question regarding dimensions of a phone that would fit in there.. Would a Xiaomi Mi11 fit? Also, what's the maximum thickness of devices that would fit..? Thanks in advance!
Hey man, awesome review! How much taller of a phone than the Z Fold 3 do you think you can squeeze in there? The Fold is 158.2mm and I have the Galaxy S22 Ultra which is 163.3mm. Do you think it would fit?
@@AkaTheJoker1 I ended up buying it. It fits with room to spare. Even with my fairly thick case on, there's still plenty of room. I have a Note 20 Ultra as well and it also fits just fine, also in a case. Your S21 Ultra should have no issues fitting.
@@bradphillips780 oh nice thanks! How are you liking it? The 2 things that worry is me is the latency (being Bluetooth and not USB-C) And not being able to charge your phone while playing.
@@AkaTheJoker1 I like it, I just don't know if I like it more than the Razer Kishi. Latency isn't a factor for me here, if there is any more on the MG-X, I don't notice it. It definitely has much better sticks than the Kishi but it's kind of awkward for me to hold with how wide the whole thing is and the extreme angle of the grips. It's definitely nice that you can fit the largest of phones in it (had to come up with a creative solution to get the S22 Ultra to fit in the Kishi), and it holds them incredibly secure. But, the Kishi is nice and compact, has the pass thru charging port, and the speaker sound guides on the right side are a nice touch. All that said I think it's a great controller and if you are looking for something more console like, I can definitely recommend it. It's very well designed and executed.
I just got the Razer Kishi for my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra but it doesn't seem to work. The little LED just doesn't turn on and I am assuming my phone is too large for it? I saw in one of your comments that you had to come up with a creative way to connect it? How so?
I am in a terrible doubt... I do not know What to do .. mgx or mgx pro... Bearing in mind that I Will use It on a Galaxy Fold... Which do you recommend?? Mgx pro has better ergonomic , feeling It as a real Gamepad. However The mgx has a compact size... Fitted to galaxy Fold It seems like a real portable console. Smaller Gamepad maked bigger screen as well (this is a personal View) I do not know which One to choose... Any help please ???
The instruction manual tells you how to pair in iOS mode,but all you have to do is hold the start and Bluetooth buttons simultaneously. Again, this only works with the MG-X pro for Android version of the controller
Hey man, I just ordered this and was wondering the same thing… I instantly regret buying it because it doesnt have phone charging option, has bluetooth input lag obviously and with bluetooth drains ur batter even faster… Did you receive it already, whats your opinion?
@@_1z_ Yeah I bought it and love it. Charging wasn't an issue for me as the battery didn't deplete much on an hours gaming session and I just use fast charging to top up. Solid purchase, I love it
Could I use this for my retro games on my firestick??? I currently have a Bluetooth shaks game controller. But I don't know if this would be compatible with my 4k firestick
I know it's been a year since this was posted but just wondering of I can play genshin impact with this on my z fold 4. This game is only on pc or Playstation. I've bought and returned others controllers and tired of going through that process.. some advice plz thank you
I just got it and only tried out a few games but I won't get full screen on Galaxy Note 10 + . 2 massive black bars on left and right of the screen. I see u get those sometimes but then on top and bottom and some I see is full screen
Having problem with analog triggers that has way too small deadzones which causes it to keep firing as it register it slightly shooting. Anyway to fix this bullshiet
This seems nice. But I prefer the Backbone cuz I’m PlayStation dedicated. And I still use it for game pass and it works great for emulation. I kinda see no difference between the two.
@@HazbinHotelStaff Moved from iphone to Android a couple years ago. Just ordered my Z Fold 5 1TB through work. As it was a bargain at £42 a month for the phone plus completely unlimited plan. My work discount scheme is pretty amazing though for Samsung stuff. As we have a contract with them to supply a huge amount of our equipment. 1600 stores each with at least 9 50" TVs as a minimum size. Plus monitors phones etc. I like iphones as well buy them for the misses. Just hate that you can have a great SoC but it's such a limited device software wise without a jailbreak so you struggle to make use of it.
Hi, i have some connection problems when i try to connect with call of duty mobile. The game keeps asking to connect with the device. But it is allready connected with my phone.. can you help me?
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Do you know where to get a case for it?
Can it play with PC too
Now I feel like my z fold3 is incomplete without this. Very nice review.
This is amazing. I just pre-ordered the Z Fold 4 and was worried I'd have to give up this type of controller option for XCLOUD etc. Thank you so much, ordering now!
Just got my Fold4, and I'm ordering my controller right now 😁
Hey. How is the controller with the fold 4 does it fit with case and work well?
@@dbzblitz88 It fits perfectly!!!
This is a great review! Thanks! Very happy you did a great input lag test as well, that is important for me when considering wired vs wireless and a question I'm constantly wondering.
Yo this is the best controller I ever got... It's so damn nice!!!!! Omg... It's so great.
I never give a s*** about things I buy but this is honestly one of the items I bought in my life that I'm just super super happy about
Nice review! Love that latency experiment at the end! 95 ms seems a bit terrible though right? I've played online games with a 100 ms lag and got annihilated because of it, I wouldn't like the perspective of another 100 on top of that.
Hmmm digged around some more and that is total system latency, ie it involves th engine picking up your input, performing the action and then rendering it as well, so, a lot more going on than just the controller latency.
It would be interesting to repeat the same test with an USB-C controller (having almost 0 latency) so we can know latency for the rest of the factors and subtract it from the total system latency to get the Bluetooth controller latency
Placed an order on their website for one of these. Basically I needed a controller that would allow be to keep my case on along with a USB-C charging port (cough MOGA cough). Thanks for the review, gives me piece of mind
Buy this if you got the money. This the best one on the market by miles
Just bought one this past Thursday, this channel pretty much confirmed everything
@charlesjr215 How is it so far? I'm thinking of getting it for my Z Fold 4, but I'm gonna do more research
Same..been looking for a controller for my z fold 4....is this the one??
@@hdeazy I'm still using mine. So yeah man... You won't be disappointed
@@themollymachinedo you use it with cover on?
Could you compare the input lag to usb-c wired controller like the Gamesir X2?
Nothing compares to a wired device
@@golvellius6855 yeah, obviously expect a wired controller to have less lag, but interested in how much of a difference.
This is exqxrly what I was looking for, thanks for this dude. I need better analog sticks than the flimsy ones on the switch and other portable controllers.
This review makes me wanna get not only the controller but also the galazy z fold lol
😅 right
I just bought the fold 6 and this controller.. hopefully it is awesome!!! Lol
Seeing the phone and the controller together now I want to get a Z fold phone and the controller for game pass.
It is an amazing combination. I expect it won’t be long before we see a dedicated gaming foldable device.
I was thinking of the backbone one android vs nacon mg x pro,
Your video helped me alot and made me decide the nacon mg x pro is the one for me,
Thanx😁👍🏽
Love my Kishi, im going to try this one out for sure!
Thanks for the review this is the perfect controller for my zf3... I wish I knew about this before I bought a knock off from Aliexpress
Thanks for the video but you need to repeat the latency test multiple times as well as compare to other wireless controllers and wired controllers.
I think 100ms of latency would be obviously noticeable so I question how much is just how animations work in that gc game or how much is intrinsic to the dolphin emulator itself.
There's too many confounders
Loved the star wars reference!
The gamesir has been my go to jam with Xbox game pass but this controller may replace it! Looks very nice!
This is the sickest handheld controller for phones ever! Wtf it can even hold a tablet, ....I was think the razor with usb C.....but I was thinking about the tablet. If I get 1 it's bridles this 1
It's isn't a tablet...its a fold...I dont know the sizes of that.But this thing is pretty slick
Thanks for the video, I've been wanting to see this controller with the fold since discovering it as it looked like the perfect combination. It's a bit of a shame it has the bottom lip to hold the phone as I'd prefer to centre the phone (especially in portrait) but I'm sure I can cut that off (I've already hacked my kishi to fit my fold3 but it's just not comfortable enough)
This is super comfortable. I honestly get lost in the Xbox game pass every time I hook this thing up.
@@WhatGear out of interest where did you buy yours? I see they have 2 versions on their site with the xbox branded one being €20 more expensive
@@chrisdoublel the nacon site i ended up ordering from had both versions for the same price
So you did show the input lag via emulator but when I play emulators with my series s controller I don't notice any input lag but when I play games on game pass ultimate (even at home on strong wifi) the input lag is so bad most games feel unplayable. Gears of war wasn't as bad but Doom eternal was absolutely unplayable. Do you notice that this device has any less input lag via game pass games than a series x/s controller since it is supposed to be made for game pass?
Nice video bro, you gain a sub. Keep up the good work.
Brilliant video I might need to grab this man looks awesome and doesn't seem to lag at all.
Great review! Really appreciated the Star Wars reference
subed for the starwars refrence ! 😅( and an amazing review !)
This is the total latency not the input latency. So all you can say is the input latency is under 100ms. Using an emulator is especially bad for this too, as you've got lots of extra IO layers being emulated in software.
Can I do PlayStation remote play with this?
I wonder what's inside the grips... I'd really like to create a notch where I could still charge my phone while I used it
This thing outright kills any other Android controller, even the Kishi. I've used a lot of Android controllers, this one is king. Xbox sticks placement ftw!
I disagree, never been able to get along with the Xbox stick placement.
Hi, nice review, thanks.
Question: did you have any issue with the screen of your fold z 3 after using the Controller ? I broke mine using the classic nacon
Which screen broke, the main screen or the smaller front screen and how? Curious because I'm really interested in this controller but don't want to break my Fold 5
Great video. I wanted to ask, does a Microsoft surface duo 1 work on this?
I got my new and shiny Z Fold 4 and I am looking for a USB-C controller because I hate Input lag. This controller, however, seems to be a good option 👍🏻
You can actually connect a usb c to usb c cable and use it that way. Just flip your fold so the usb slot is on right side.
@@robertquintanilla6042 Really! Cool! I was more and more convinced about buying the new Gamesir X2 pro, but I like more the design of this controller.
Did you get this does fold 4 fit?
@@magpieally yes it fits.
Does it fit with a cover on?
Have you done more lag/latency tests?
For the fold, were you able to test to see if maybe you can use usb c to usb C as connection rather than Bluetooth?
Hi what is the football game that you play?? And did it work with call of duty mobile??
Hi @WhatGear! Thanks for a great review. I have a question regarding dimensions of a phone that would fit in there.. Would a Xiaomi Mi11 fit? Also, what's the maximum thickness of devices that would fit..? Thanks in advance!
Can you try if Xbox button works as Stadia button when you play on Stadia or it just goes to the main menu?
If you are using this controller on Stadia and press the Xbox button does it go to Stadia's menu or does it take you to the home screen of your phone?
Hey man, awesome review! How much taller of a phone than the Z Fold 3 do you think you can squeeze in there? The Fold is 158.2mm and I have the Galaxy S22 Ultra which is 163.3mm. Do you think it would fit?
Yeah I have the S21 Ultra but just from there spec sheet I'm also worried it wouldn't fit.
@@AkaTheJoker1 I ended up buying it. It fits with room to spare. Even with my fairly thick case on, there's still plenty of room. I have a Note 20 Ultra as well and it also fits just fine, also in a case. Your S21 Ultra should have no issues fitting.
@@bradphillips780 oh nice thanks! How are you liking it? The 2 things that worry is me is the latency (being Bluetooth and not USB-C) And not being able to charge your phone while playing.
@@AkaTheJoker1 I like it, I just don't know if I like it more than the Razer Kishi. Latency isn't a factor for me here, if there is any more on the MG-X, I don't notice it. It definitely has much better sticks than the Kishi but it's kind of awkward for me to hold with how wide the whole thing is and the extreme angle of the grips. It's definitely nice that you can fit the largest of phones in it (had to come up with a creative solution to get the S22 Ultra to fit in the Kishi), and it holds them incredibly secure. But, the Kishi is nice and compact, has the pass thru charging port, and the speaker sound guides on the right side are a nice touch. All that said I think it's a great controller and if you are looking for something more console like, I can definitely recommend it. It's very well designed and executed.
I just got the Razer Kishi for my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra but it doesn't seem to work. The little LED just doesn't turn on and I am assuming my phone is too large for it? I saw in one of your comments that you had to come up with a creative way to connect it? How so?
If they were able to make a ps5 look alike i would pick this over the backbone
So can I use this MG X pro on my galaxy Z Fold 4?
Yes! I do
@@WhatGear thank you ordering it now...🙏🏾
Does the Rog phone 6 fits in this? I know there are specific controllers for this but I prefer the bluetooth over usb C
How did you set up the controller to work with the Dolphin emulator?
It was tricky. There's an option buried deep with the menu system. I'll have to have a look.
Hi! Will it fit Fold 4 with Rugged Thicc Cases such as the Poetic Spartan Case? Thank you!
I... need... one... of... these... controllers... It... looks... so... cool...
Before I purchase I want to make sure that it has mapping capability I think I heard you say it with the Mantis app but want to be for sure 😳
At a few days I take th Samsung galaxy fold 2!(I can't wait) Is at very good condition! Can i play with this controller? Thank you! 😊
Can you adjust a fold 6 vertically if it has a case with hinge protection?
Una pregunta amigo, has probado a conectarlo a la Nintendo Switch?
I am in a terrible doubt... I do not know What to do .. mgx or mgx pro...
Bearing in mind that I Will use It on a Galaxy Fold... Which do you recommend??
Mgx pro has better ergonomic , feeling It as a real Gamepad.
However The mgx has a compact size... Fitted to galaxy Fold It seems like a real portable console. Smaller Gamepad maked bigger screen as well (this is a personal View)
I do not know which One to choose...
Any help please ???
The MG-X Pro for Android (grey version) works with iOS...but the XBox version doesn't.
The instruction manual tells you how to pair in iOS mode,but all you have to do is hold the start and Bluetooth buttons simultaneously. Again, this only works with the MG-X pro for Android version of the controller
Does the controller feel exactly like a xbox controller when holdong it with the trigger placement and distance from the grips to the triggers?
Regarding The input lag , Has the normal MG-X Con same input lag as MG-X Con Pro???
Thank you very much !!
Hello, Nacon MG-X Pro is compatible with Xbox series S console? :)
I have a 10ins tablet can it take something that size I will be spending a lot of time in hospital and would love one of these to get me sane
Measure the width of it in portrait orientation. If it’s less than 14cm you should be good to go! Get well soon man 👍
What is the emulator that are you are using? What is the name of the game soccer game you playing
Mario strikers
Can this controller also work without a phone and be used to play android games on the Chromecast with google tv?
Just ordered one :). Got an S23U with a Dbrand Grip so hopefully fits alright. Does charging the comtroller charge the phone?
Hey man, I just ordered this and was wondering the same thing… I instantly regret buying it because it doesnt have phone charging option, has bluetooth input lag obviously and with bluetooth drains ur batter even faster… Did you receive it already, whats your opinion?
@@_1z_ Yeah I bought it and love it. Charging wasn't an issue for me as the battery didn't deplete much on an hours gaming session and I just use fast charging to top up. Solid purchase, I love it
@@Tackyauto hows the input latency and do you use bluetooth headphones aswell?
@@_1z_ There is a bit of lag but didn't really bother me much. Yeah I used some Bluetooth earbuds and worked fine for me
Could I use this for my retro games on my firestick??? I currently have a Bluetooth shaks game controller. But I don't know if this would be compatible with my 4k firestick
Will the s22 ultra work in this? Fit comfortably i mean..
Does it fit with the Pixel 8 pro? I'am asking beacuse of the thick camera
Can this be used on a fold6 with a hinge protection case
i've been asking this all around but no one seems to know. Does it require google play services to function properly (huawei user)
Hi does it work with call of duty?
How is it with a phone case?
What is the name of the racing game at 1:15? Looks great
Forza Horizon 5
I know it's been a year since this was posted but just wondering of I can play genshin impact with this on my z fold 4. This game is only on pc or Playstation. I've bought and returned others controllers and tired of going through that process.. some advice plz thank you
What tablet can I buy for this?
Can I plays games on my phone with it
now why the hell didnt they make it USBC like really?
He dint say how to get the games on the device or did i miss it ?
I just got it and only tried out a few games but I won't get full screen on Galaxy Note 10 + . 2 massive black bars on left and right of the screen.
I see u get those sometimes but then on top and bottom and some I see is full screen
Can I have a phone case on while playing it
Is it possible to connect it to pc using Bluetooth?
Having problem with analog triggers that has way too small deadzones which causes it to keep firing as it register it slightly shooting. Anyway to fix this bullshiet
Me podrian decir si es compatible con iphone ?
Can I conect it to an xbox and use it as a controller?
Can it play on PC too
But is it s21 ultra with a case friendly?
It is with my pitaka case...There is a lot of room for cases on this one. As long as it's not too chunky
Can you use anywhere you want away from your Xbox?
Yes is completely cloud based & not streaming from console
will it fit with asus rog 7
can you play offline games with it?
Yes, I made a video about emulators where I use this with psp and Nintendo games
Is possible connect to Nintendo switch?
Does this fit the Otterbox defender
Can you use this as a second controller on Xbox itself as well?
I haven’t tried. I doubt it though
Why no decent controller for tablet??
That is a good question
Is there any lag steaming xbox game pass?
Why not Support tablet with 10 inc ….😢
And how can i Play mario strike on the z fold 3 ?
Download Citra, search for the Mario Strikers rom & then point citra to the location on your device…that’s it
Why even get a steam deck lmao
Does it work with z fold 4
Do you have to have an Xbox to play this ?
No. I was playing the Xbox games through gamepass
Does it work with CODM?
Amazing video, when I get a phone that doesn't fit on Razer Kishi I'll buy this one!
This seems nice. But I prefer the Backbone cuz I’m PlayStation dedicated. And I still use it for game pass and it works great for emulation. I kinda see no difference between the two.
Not great for a fold though due to where the usb port is. Would have the screen coming out the bottom rather than the top.
@@yonumptyYeah I never had the flip one. I’m using iPhone. More power!
@@HazbinHotelStaff Moved from iphone to Android a couple years ago. Just ordered my Z Fold 5 1TB through work. As it was a bargain at £42 a month for the phone plus completely unlimited plan. My work discount scheme is pretty amazing though for Samsung stuff. As we have a contract with them to supply a huge amount of our equipment. 1600 stores each with at least 9 50" TVs as a minimum size. Plus monitors phones etc.
I like iphones as well buy them for the misses. Just hate that you can have a great SoC but it's such a limited device software wise without a jailbreak so you struggle to make use of it.
Can you play android games on this?
Yes, some but not all
Can this hold a tab s 7 fe
Hi, i have some connection problems when i try to connect with call of duty mobile. The game keeps asking to connect with the device. But it is allready connected with my phone.. can you help me?
What phone are you using? And could there be another BT device that’s trying to connect? If so that might be breaking the connection
Does it fit a galaxy tab s7 plus?
How wide is the S7?
Do i need Xbox for it