Fishermen Harassment Thornapple lake . this guy came from across the lake 1000 ft .
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this guy came from across the lake at no point was I in his range . the closest I was to him was at least 1000 ft. he had no right to even approach my boat . I have been getting all kinds of bad comments that I was to blame and I should have moved . sorry about it but he totally was in the wrong . so I'm updating this so everyone knows the real story . if I need to move being 1000 ft. Away then all duck hunters can just suck it .
Sometimes it feels like no matter where you go, you can’t get away from idiots!
Some one should put a "thornapple"🍍up this guys yang. ☯ Hunters son has a mullet. Figures. Who's to say that the hunter won't get hooked from being too close?
I remember when hunting and fishing used to be something to do to relax and relieve stress
@Mr.Joetatoehead it this exaggerate sense of entitlement.
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@Mr.Joetatoehead When was this? People always been dick heads you just hear about it more now because of cell phones and the Internet
I remember when people used to have respect for each other
@@josephwinkler4863 When and where was that Joe? $50 says you're a white man age 55-70
Just home from Vietnam in 1969 Got my job back and was living with mom and dad until I was drafted. After two years of Army infantry, I wanted a place of my own. I found an old one bedroom cabin on a great bass lake. This was about a 30 min drive from where I worked. $250 a month. My good fishing buddy and I fished that lake every night in the summertime and spent the weekends partying with the girls who's parents had summer homes on the lake. Today I drive by the same lake and it's no different than what this guy had to deal with. A bunch of high buck homes were built at the southern end of the lake. I no longer live there but what socitiy has done just pisses me off. I think my generation had the best of what America use to be.
Hunted early 80s , corn fields and old farms, now , 5000sq ft houses and taxes blue collar can’t afford.
It’s getting harder man
Thanks for your service George,
Son of a vet
So sad George seems so true
Amen brother. You hit the nail on the head. Simple life style has been sold out in the name of development. Makes us begin to understand a tiny bit, what the Indians were faced with.
@@michaelboykin9881 If you only knew read the book "all the real Indians died off" if you want
Lots of WW2 and Korean War vets had issues with Vietnam vets and felt the previous generation had the best of what America used to be before you were a young buck in 1969, meanwhile your generation was progressing and some old timer was like I can’t believe this guy is at my lake, “I remember when there were no houses on this lake here” now this Vietnam woos is entitled to it! It’s like music, if you grew up during a certain time the music between 15-25 years old was the best no matter how old you are now. A kid being born next month will complain about young people when he is 80. We can’t help it, it’s human nature.
i am a hunter and hunter harassment is when someone is trying to scare off the game. this guy is fishing and has every right to be there the hunters need to be aware of him know the law before you preach
Exactly correct
Agreed 👍
If the hunter was there first, which was probably the case. This would be hunter harrasment. He has the entire lake to fish but chooses to come right in front of the hunters? Yeah this fisherman is in the wrong. Have called DNR in minnesota before about this and they ticket the fisherman.
@@joshuakuhne8934 no he is not.
Interference with hunting is also getting in the way like this fisherman. If he only 60 yards for them then he's in range and they cant shoot. So he is Interfering .
"You're down range..."
Meanwhile, in the house right behind him....
The guy in the Pontoon was an absolute jackwagon. I would have dropped anchor and called that conservation officer immediately!
How about the cops.
He’s threatening with a gun.
Don't call Chris. He's the hunters buddy and will side with him.
If the hunters were there first the fisherman should have left… simple
@@philipdowns1092 Nope.
@@philipdowns1092 Bullcrap. What gives you the right to dictate who and when people can use the lake. Its not a private lake..
I would have fished there the rest of the day.
I would have thrown the anchor out
Yea u no that
Yep I would shooting in that area the rest of that day
would have been peppering his boat as long as he was there
See doing that just because they made you mad would be hunter harassment. And you would get a ticket most likely. The guy on the pontoon should've said something then left not drive on circles like a dick but the guy fishing should've known better using common sense and shouldn't have been fishing infront of someone actively hunting
One day he will fuck with the wrong guy.
To many homes to be safe hunting around
Yeah and that wrong guy is me Captain Sonny
another fool dead L.A. Times front page
It's really hard to find an activity where you're more chill and minding your own business than when fishing on public waters.
Except when you arent chill and you go infront of hunters. This is a very baaic example of hunter harrasment.
@@joshuakuhne8934 Bull spit
@@leesnow1382 No, it's not. The hunters were there first. The old man should have went around. Those guys shouldn't have done what they did, but I get it. Its frustrating when you get up early, get set up, and then have some guy decide he's going to fish where you're at.
@@allenwhitmer8192 He has every right to use the waterway, as much as you do the woods. So suck it up and play nicely and nobody gets accidentally hurt. time to pull up the big boy britches
@@leesnow1382 I never said he didn't. Sure, he has every right. But someone is already there using that area. Etiquette or common courtesy, if you will. Say the fisherman was in an area and some hunters pulled up and started wading out with their decoys right where he was fishing. Is that cool with you, as well? I had some idiot fisherman casting for bass under my goose decoys, is that cool? He said he would leave when he was done. Meanwhile, not a single duck or goose came to my spread while he was out there. I got up at 4 AM that morning, worked my butt off to get everything set up, and here he comes at sunrise. Sunrise for duck hunters is prime time. If he had been there first, I would have given him a wide area, and gone around, because I'm not a dick. I wouldn't want to scare his fish. So get your panties out of the bunch they are in, big boy...also, hunters don't just hunt in the woods. Some do, but some are waterfowlers-they hunt ducks and geese. I've never run across a fisherman in the woods.
You had every right to fish there. You were in vicinity of their hunting spot but it’s not harassment because you didnt purposely intrude on their activity. What the hunters did is legally defined as harassment, they purposefully did circles around you and physically prevented you from fishing.
Quite the double standard you have working....
@@cuivre2004 not really fisherman can’t harass someone that he didn’t know was there. The hunter knew exactly what he was doing. Same way if your hunting public land and some Jack wagon rides his horse under your deer stand. Don’t like it buy or lease private property!
I guess my question would be where are these hunters shooting when I can see houses right in the background? The houses are not that far away. Maybe they should find somewhere more secluded to hunt.
Also, what total jerks with a lack of common courtesy
@@rdbarber72 Believe me, the fisherman knew they were there. Even if they could hide that boat, I'm sure they started standing up and talking so he would know. He would have seen their decoys and I don't care how realistic they are, you can tell decoys from real ducks
shotgun wont shoot bird shot that far@@Justicia007
That hunter is a disgrace to the sport. You were right and handled the situation perfectly. I have fished and duck hunted for the last 30 years. At no point was he right and at no point were you wrong. Simple as that. I flat out laughed out loud when I saw his "rig" and I seriously thought it was a joke. I mean how dumb does this guy think ducks are. I'm still laughing. You earned my subscription today. Cheers
Yeah, 👍 the rig was truly some sick shit 🤣
@@AASIDJAALO My cousin and I built a tree house when we were 9 that was fairly comparable in craftsmanship.
Shut the fuck up pussy if ur close to duck hunters ur scaring our birds, them duck hunters ain’t killin shit out of that thing but I’d still throw this stupid old fisherman cuck off his boat if he tried to stay a long
@@fishingallure3672 😂👍👌
I see 2 idiots
Great restraint and composure from the fisherman. I do both activities and no matter where you live there’s always a Karen or Ken to mess up your day. The hunter needs a fine from DNR and a punch in the mouth from the fisherman.
Agree they would of only did that to me once !!!!!
Yep for sure
He tried to bully the fisherman off his fishing spot, by making up some semi-legal bullshit. Besides, aren't there laws in America about discharging firearms in close proximity to residential buildings? Those houses/cabins are only a couple of hundred feet away. Someone else would have kicked that hunter's lard arse into the water.
I also enjoy both sports. But in this case I think the fisherman encroached on the hunters. He even said he saw the hunters. It's a big lake and he could have fished elsewhere instead of expecting his right to fish exceeded their right to hunt.
@@terrypostell8098 And conversely, also applies to the hunters. Especially since the fisherman was there first, as they approached from a different side of the lake. They're morons, devoid of common civility and with idiotic expectations of privilege. The disrespectful shits don't deserve the steam off his piss.
Bottom line: If the fisherman went up in range of the hunters knowing that they were there, that is rude. Not illegal. What the Hunter did with his pontoon boat was a Dick move and was illegal.
I'm retired and may been out there every day to see how those hunters were doing. Perhaps had a nice chat as well!
how would he know their there they were camoflauged so well
Bottom line is the hunters are in the wrong hunting that close to those houses are the Going to ask those people to move there houses just so he can kill something cause we all know hunters have tiny dicks abd that's why they feel the need to kill something go buy ur food like the rest of the world stupid hillbillies
Huh? How is that rude. Well fisherman aren't gonna get in trouble if they got shot at even by accident know where your pointing your gun. There's no excuse as to why you'd point your gun toward the lake period.
When I hunt migratory birds you won't see me on the bank . And if someone is using nature like I am I don't complain . I just wait until they pass by . It's not hard to shoot around a boat . I hunt beside people and if the bird flies by them I don't shoot . Pretty simple .
I'm not an attorney, but I used to pretend to be one when I would hit of women in bars. I don't think there's a law on the books that says if Bigmouth Waddlesworth wants to hunt on the lake, nobody else has the right to be on the lake. No swimming, no canoeing/kayaking, no boating/fishing while the fatboy hunts. I would think it's Waddlesworth's responsibility to make sure not to shoot in the direction of anyone else.
At least you got to make a fool of him in front of thousands of people 😆👍
Just for info, if the fisherman was in range so were the houses. Illegal most everywhere to shoot in the direction of an occupied structure, which a house is an occupied structure. The fisherman was in the right.
Yep. That duck hunter was an ass.
Sec. 62.0125
Not true. In most states they are allowed to be on the shoreline in the water and shoot in the direction of the lake. When on land its usually 500 feet from a dwelling. Notice he didnt show how or when he got the spot he is at? If he was intentional getting in their path it can definitely be hunter harassment. If he was there and they pulled up, its their problem. They handled it poorly with the trying to stick to him but I am betting if you saw the whole video he knew what he was doing. If you noticed he was not surprised at all when they addressed him. He got 165,000 views over this so hmmmm?
That's what I've been screaming in the thread. Hes just being a Dick he wasn't hunting there. It's just like countless other wives of doctors I had to deal with on the lake who had no more right to that property then then I did to the water. All they did was spread their legs for some old man and they think they owned the lake
You are spot on!
There is a house in view. What about safety with regards to the house. The hunters were assholes in this situation.
Birdshot only goes a short distance. Obviously if shot was raining down on someone's house the cops would be called and they would be arrested and hunting would be banned. Suppose you were doing something and someone just came in front of you and got in your way , would you be upset. They might have been waiting 3,4,5 hours hoping some geese would land and then he comes and scares them all away. Do you think this happened by accident. The fisherman did it on purpose.
The fuck if I would move. I would park my ass right there and call DNR
That was an extreme case of entitlement douchebaggery from a guy completely fluent in dumbfuckery. He doesn't own the water and you have a right to fish. You aren't supposed to fire guns toward residential areas and that would certainly qualify with all the houses around. Really. Only the fishermen are in danger? So is he asking for everybody that lives along that bank to leave their home and not go outside? And what he did to you was absolutely harassment and I'm glad you got that on camera.
You are right, there are far too many homes in the area, where these hunters wish to shoot. All it takes is one round to end up in a house owners body, and the shit flies, regarding shooting and hunting. This is more of a fishing area, not a hunting area. I say fishermen is in the right in this video.
Good point, well made, Doc
@@waynedavies3185 The area being hunting vs non hunting is not the issue. If they are duck hunting, they know they can hunt ducks there- they LIVE there. The issue ios the guy trolling around in front of their decoy sets. And the hunters don't fire rifles at ducks, they use shotguns, so I don't know where a "round" would enter anyone's body.
@@cuivre2004 Very stupid remark. Firearms (whether they are rifle, or shotgun, or even pistol), should never be fired around where people live, I don't care what you say. Stupid move by the hunters. America needs better, safer rules in firearms.
The hunters have every right to be there. They were probably there before thenfisherman even out his boat in the water. This is hunter harrasment by this fisherman. Also to duck hunt you can be right next to people if its ok by them and you are shooting out over the water. Hunted like this growing up my whole life. You are essentially using bird shot and doesnt travel far enough to cross the lake. This fisherman went right into their hunting area. He knows better too.
The fisherman was right. I once told someone that when anyone comes up complaining about you fishing in the wrong, don't even acknowledge their presence. Don't engage them. They're just looking for a fight anyway.
Isn't the hunter responsible for where his bullet goes?
That's why the hunter didn't shoot him. Just cause you don't like hunting doesn't make the fisherman right. It's common courtesy to yield to the person there first. If people were playing a baseball game would you walk down on the field and start flying a kite? Then tell them it's your right to use the baseball field too.
Ya that struck me as odd, the hunter had no argument as there was a house where the fisherman was at. For hunting I would imagine one would simply not be able to hunt if you could see a house or homes kinda close I would think 🤔
Let's face facts. If the hunter was in the right. He'd have called the cops. Instead he decides to actually harass the fisherman right on camera. Had the cops showed up, what they'd of saw was some hunting dudes purposely doing circles around a guys boat, trying to make him leave. LOL Honestly, they most likely were hunting in a location that was most likely off limits for them to be at hunting, so they didn't want to involve the authorities. LOL
@@mikelachey824 The fisherman was being an a
Asshole scaring the ducks away so the hunters scared the fish away. They can't call the cops cause technically it's not against the law for people against hunting to scare the game away. I doubt they were illegally hunting cause someone would have called the cops.
I’m a hunter for over 50 years, and I hope them hunters in that boat got a ticket!!
. 😡😡😡 EXACTLY 💯 HOPE WENT TO THE NEAREST DNR OFFICE AND TURNED THEM IN 👍🏻👍🏻
Actually they are both dickheads....the fisherman because he knew the hunters were set up there. I have had fisherman pull right up and cast into decoys while we hunt. People have no consideration for others. The hunters in the boat had they just shut up the guy would have been gone in 5 minutes. It was rude on both sides and unnecessary. It is just like when out fishing quietly and Jet skiers or water ski boat come roaring by within casting distance. Man and his pettiness on full display.
@@outdoorrn2980 1000' bud is 300 yds +. No way them birds gave a shit about him.
@@outdoorrn2980 a mofo ever cast into my decoys while I’m hunting it will be his last cast.
@@ihomeproservices7040 🤣🤣🤣👌
It's not the fishers problem. It's up to the hunter to point his gun in a safe direction. I'll keep fishing where ever I want
Omg that guy was totally harassing the fisherman. They were probably hunting illegally or something. Seems fishy. If he’s so concerned maybe he should call fish and game police. Otherwise screw off
He was concerned for your safety, such a good human being. I guess he's never heard that those shooting have a responsibility to know what they are shooting at. The fact that he purposely harassed you going around your boat is priceless.
They both were wrong
@@allenwhitmer8192 nope
If he was concerned. He would have held tight and just waited. The fisherman would have been moved on in a few minutes since he was working his way down the lake with his trolling motor.
I don’t think I would’ve handled it as gracefully as this fisherman. I would’ve lost my cool for sure.
Gracefully?? The fisherman was a prick. Just a grouchy old fart. They asked him nicely
Guys with shotguns vs dumb ass with fishing pole who wins
@@steveanderson1058 you must need Bomonts mother because yours isnt proud of you. Poor sap.
You are not alone, & I WOULD HAVE STAYED WHERE I WAS. DEALING WITH ICEHOLES IS A DAILY EVENT FOR ME, I WOULD NOT BE PUSHED AROUND BY THAT MORON.
There duck hunting that close to house I do duck hunt but you have to be so many feet away from a dwelling or a house
Dude in the pontoon was absolutely wrong. He can’t claim hunters harassment, you can however call DNR on him because you were there first, and not harassing anyone. You have the right to fish there.
Fishers harassment 🏆
@@getoffyoubassandletsfish8565 exactly
You are responsible for every round you discharge from a firearm. Period. If you are that worried about shooting some guy fishing on a lake, you probably should find a safer place to hunt. But that was not really the issue. Clear case of douchebaggery.
You can’t roll up in a boat like that and call yourself a hunter lol… those boys don’t have a clue of what a real blind looks like or the rules of the water.
I know right? Look at their ridiculous pontoon boat lmao
Learn to duck hunt before you say dumb s*** about people's setup
@@thomasted8363 beware of people with 2 first names! I hear banjoes tom ted 😆
@@seiglerd LMFAO!!!
@@seiglerd Deliverance banjo just played in my head when I
read your comment. I salute you as a youtube comment hero funniest comment ever
Bet the harasser’s wife jumps for joy inside when he says he’s going hunting for hours.
Has every right to be fishing wherever he wants. Hunters have the responsibility of every shot they take.
If the hunters where there first he should keep a safe distance from them first come first serve Jack
@@gc9298 it looks like a public/multi use lake. So a dumb spot to hunt. You can't expect someone not to fish a whole cove or part of a public lake because there are people duck hunting. If you are a hunter you need to find remote/private areas\ or expect to be bothered.
@@andrewgio1 Exactly!
The next time this happens,ask the Idiot if he actually knows the definition of "harassment". Most Cops don't and most people think it means doing anything that I don't want you to do. All Hunters are responsible for damage downrange.
I'm on your side, I guess you're allowed to shoot with houses in the background no problem but you can't fish there. lmao what a joke
I would’ve stayed there all day, even if I never caught a thing. The hunter was wrong. Hunters are responsible for their shots.
No the fisher was in the wrong. Duck hunters set up hours before sunlight, they where there first.
Yep I'd have anchored up and sat there all day.
Absolutely!!! I might have camped on the water just because 😆
Jumbo Neuteon - No you’re wrong!
Does not matter what time the hunters got there. That’s a public body of water that that guy legally has every right to fish. FACT! That hunter owns none of that body of water, and has no legal right to claim any part of it for his own use. FACT! In addition, that jackass idiot obviously does not know what hunter harassment actually is. It involves intentionally scaring off prey that is being hunted. This fisherman did no such thing apparently, but occupy a water spot the hunter felt might interfere with his shots. Tough shit! It’s his responsibility to be mindful where he is shooting. It is not everyone’s else’s obligation to give him the whole lake or even any part of it. That’s the law dumbass!
And his supposed “duck blind rig” was a fuking joke! It looked like it was cobbled together by a vocational school drop out! As poorly conceived and fabricated as his understanding of hunter harassment laws. LOL
@@jimboneutron8399 Just because you assume they were there first does not mean they were. The fisherman was not harassing anyone. The hunters were.
I believe (if you are in MI) the distance set by DNR and state law is 100 feet to operate a watercraft from someone actively fishing. So, for him to come that close to you with the intent of interrupting your lawful activity is a criminal act (misdemeanor, if I'm not mistaken). Not sure what the distance is required to be from people on land, hunting on/near the same body of water, but let's just suppose it's also 100 feet. You weren't even close to that distance. And, the responsibility falls on them not to discharge in your direction anyway - it's not on you. So, in my professional opinion (former law enforcement, but NOT conservation officer), my gut tells me that guy was in the wrong for approaching you. Not to mention, if it was that big of an issue, why didn't he call the DNR and have a CO come talk to you about it? It's not his job to enforce the hunting/fishing laws, it's the CO's.
That’s the rule all over the country. 100ft.
driving a boat close enough to scare wildlife away from a hunter is hunter harassment and carries a hefty fine.
@@puregameplay7916 you’re stupid. Get some damn common sense.
You are correct Jason.
@@269adventures its a fact tho? If someone is hunting, and you operate machinery close enough to spook the gam they are hunting, then you are HARASSING the hunters and interfering in a lawful hunt.
Seems to me it's a matter of who arrived first at the spot. The person arriving second should yield.
No.
@@xxbodycountxx7626 "No" what?
My thoughts exactly
This fisherman is a dick.. He came in and started fishing right where they were setup to hunt. Very rude person that only thinks of himself.
@@57strub Yes, I agree, if he showed up after the duck hunters. Then he was just being passive aggressive. I duck hunt AND fish. It's not feasible to pull up all your decoys and blind and relocate to accommodate a fisherman, obviously. To us, anyway.
I’d be out there “fishing” every day, watching the world go past.
how's he shooting with houses right there?
To go back and forth that aggressively right on his bow is inexcusable. Man, they need to be ticketed!
And loose all fishing and boating and hunting rights and if he had a loaded shotgun on a moving boat Baby he was also drinking
Just to ask, if that fisherman was obviously that much in range how much in range where the houses right behind him? Hunter was a pos.
The hunter is a wrong...he should loose his hunting privledge! I am a hunter and a fisherman for 65 years! We would have let the guy fish thru
And enjoyed watching the man fish hoping to watch the man catch a fish...part of the experience of the day...just don't shoot the mans way..what is a bird or two! We as hunters and fishermen should embrace one another and be flexible toward one another! Lord knows there are enough people trying to destroy our freedoms! I have shot many ducks after a boat came thru...safely! Greed has seeped into America every where! It should not be how much game you harvest or how many fish you catch.....sit back and enjoy the good and bad of they day! Nothing will ever be perfect!
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Bravo for standing your ground. Tell him to go hunt somewhere else. Idiot...
The fisherman has The right The same hunters have to abide by the law firearms safety And those cottages were in danger Also
Unbelievable that the guy has the audacity to tell the fisherman he can't fish, but the hunters can hunt, and you're in the way of their firing range. Unbelievable!
Your wrong man in boat seen the blind old asshole is in the wrong
And they honestly think the bird shots going to hurt after 100 yd? These guys are delusional and just pissed off because they're assholes.
Over an argument that is complete bullshit. There are residents right behind where the fisherman is hes not going to be shooting that way hes just being a Dick
Common sense, actually
The houses are down range also
After the circling stunt, I’d have stuck around as long as possible
Same here I would not have moved for a while based on someone's whim for control.
But that point across the lake looked very good to me.
I would have made a cast a caught me a ass while fishing for bass! Lol
I would have cranked my boat motor up and run circles around their ass until I got tired of doing it just to show him
Me too
"we can both play this game." - well said!
They can both play the same game but the hunters do have the guns!
A real hunter wouldn't even worry about people because he would be able to hit only what he is shooting at. They must be a terrible shot.
You were fine . You were the one being harassed. God bless . 🐬⛵
No it doesn't work that way, hunter harassment is intentionally messing with a hunt not fishing on the lake at the same time their hunting. Hunter ed 101 to be sure of what is behind your target as your responsible for what you shoot. He is almost harassing the fisherman at this point if you want to get technical.
I think hunters were anchor and buddy pulled up on them they deserve there space
"F" that duck hunter. I think I would fish there every weekend day after that.
I have been hunting and a guy fishing trolled past me , I nodded he nodded back no words spoken. If it isn’t private property and you have to buy a license, all that hunt or fish should share. It’s really not a big deal and I can tell the dude bitching hasn’t missed a meal he will survive
That's the way it should be. Total respect for each other. The small nitch of time that someone moves on by is nothing compared to the hours you spend in the blind.
Im just sick of these bastards.
So much for a relaxing time. Times sure have changed. I would have allowed him to keep circling around while I have some cigarettes. Let him use up his fuel 😂😂
What a blatant a-hole…I love how you kept fishing!! Bravo !! He was clearly in the wrong ….we get pretty close fishing the DR ..but most fishermen respect one another….guess duck dynasty has a reputation to uphold
Hopefully the fisherman showed the video to the Wildlife office and and they did something about it because that is outrageous.
You definitely had a right to be on the water. He took the effort to come and disturb you which must have messed up his hunting anyway. I'm sure this has been a thorn in his side forever. You're likely not the first fisherman he has had cross words with. Did you catch any fish anyway?
The fisherman was in the right I'm a Hunter and a fisherman and that Hunter was a prick. That's right I said it what????
Agreed. But the argument was for the guys near shore I’m assuming? I feel like if someone is in a spot first, fishing, hunting, boating, skiing, I wouldn’t go fish it and take over the area. I love to fish but respect goes to all sportsmen and people enjoying the outdoors. I don’t like people rolling up on me so I would never do it to anyone else.
It's Noones responsibility but the hunter or hunter's to know what's beyond the target on "public water" . Fish on dude to hell with those pricks.
First off hunter harassment applies to hunting and fishing and it is illegal in all 50 states. It only applies when someone is actively trying to disrupt a hunt. Unless this guy was purposefully fishing in a spot to prevent them from hunting, which based on this video he was not, then the only hunter harassment that occurred is when the give deliberately drove his pontoon through where he was fishing.
If I was the dude on the boat I would have called the game warden myself.
Hunter had a terrible attitude from the start. It's all about how you address people. Usually starting with some sort of respect.
It's true but really we only have 3 months per year to hunt. It's not year around like fishing. There are alot more water bodies that allow fishing but not hunting then there are those that allow hunting. I understand his frustration
@@wholeass83 You make a good point and I agree with you.
No reason to get off on the wrong foot though.
@@addamtate1230 yea deffinetly not how I would handle it. I've been there. I always have a back up plan not just for this but for other hunters too.
The fisherman was the rude one. It wouldn't have mattered what the hunter said. I've had fisherman in boats do that to me when fishing from shore just Park there boat right in front of me and tell me there no law they can't be there.
Ya that struck me as odd, the hunter had no argument as there was a house where the fisherman was at. For hunting I would imagine one would simply not be able to hunt if you could see a house or homes kinda close I would think 🤔
That young man was one helluva lot more polite than I'd have been.
You might have a couple flat tires on your boat trailer then when you get back to the ramp ....
@@cuivre2004 yeah and you wouldn't of ever came back to that ramp either. I think that would have been worth it.
I'm a hunter as well. If you pulled into that bay and sat fishing 50 yards off there decoys, that is 100% hunter harassment. The fisherman can be charged. Pay attention to your surroundings at all times. You are not always entitled! First come, first serve. You admitted to seeing them and still sat there. The fisherman has no ethics what so ever.
Sorry I was no where near him .
You never turned the camera to show us how far away. So its your word against his.
As the code is written verbatim, the fisherman was actually right and the hunter was wrong. "(c) No person may intentionally interfere..." He wasn't doing anything intentionally. He thought he was far enough away. The hunter then violated the exact code he was trying to enforce by driving his boat around the fisherman's boat in an attempt to disturb the fish. "(d) No person may intentionally harass, drive, or disturb any wildlife..." Two wrongs don't make a right. Both could have handle this better but by the letter of the law, the fisherman was right. People need to learn how to approach with less aggression and they might get more positive reactions.
The Hunter is really being a jerk
I think i would make it my sole purpose to fish there all day and to visit frequently and stay ALL DAY then as well
I'd have just called the DNR IMMEDIATELY. That's it...They'd have been fined and possibly lost their hunting privileges for at least a year.
So you think, but unfortunately you werent there that morning to know what really happened
@@whitehondarider22 When you hunt, as a hunter you are 100% responsible for knowing what's behind your intended target and IF someone comes along in a boat while you're hunting waterfowl That's it, there's nothing you can do about it. You can't just come out of hiding in your blind where they couldn't see you and demand they leave. They have just as much a right to use the lake as you did. Just like if you build a blind on a lake to hunt from and you get there and someone else in already hunting it you're out of luck. You have no right to kick someone out of a blind on public property, which all lakes are unless completely enclosed on private property. Then again, if there's a navigable waterway(creek, stream river...)leading into the lake, then it's fair game.
I think you went a little easy on that Hunter. My brother and I did both a lot, and he always had the number of the nearest DNR office the warden and the sheriff that covered the area that we were in. And if you're downrange and within range then so are those houses and docks off at 2:00 to the starboard side. You should work the bank for a little while, and have a warden come out and tell them what happened. I kind of like to know how the rest of your day went?
I hunt and fish and that hunter an embarrassment. Had a guy like him shoot probably less than 10ft in front of me while fishing one time. I had some choice words for him. U got a gun it always ur responsibility to shoot in a safe direction and if a fisherman on the lake that's just tough 💩. U don't take that shot if it's not safe. If that's too hard then don't hunt.
I couldn't turn my boat. I was to close to you. Obviously he needs a USCG inspection to note the defective equipment and the pilots lack of training.
If I was the fisherman, I would have called the police right away. The guy said they were hunting 1000’ away. Over 3 football fields away. He can hunt his land but he don’t own the lake. I would have called the police, and showed them the video. What a Dick. Where did this happen? Northern States?
the hunter has the obligation to know what he is shooting and what is beyond it. not the other way around...
Favorite spots and the people who think they own them. Never ends.
So did the DNR show up? Who got a ticket for harrassment?
Claiming the fisherman was in danger of being shot is a little over the top. Pontoon-boat-guy was a real jerk.
Being from Louisiana (Sportsman Paradise) as a fisherman, I come across hunters often during duck season. The easiest and most courteous thing to do is let them have their space. There's enough water to share. I think this situation could've been handle better by both parties. If I come up to an occupied duck blind, I leave, no discussion. This confrontation could've easily been avoided by using common courtesy.
Great comment. Thank you..
Exactly!
Maybe you have the right to fish but good manners says you move on. Same deal with boats and bank fishermen, show good manners just don't crowd folks. It won't harelip ya.
I would agree. He may not have known he was wrong. If he was there first though then the duck hunters should have waited. Maybe went over and said hey. we are going to duck hunt. How long you going to be i this area? I don't know who was here first. I agree a bit of unsportsmanlike conduct on both parts by what is visible.
Patrick Vandyke agreed !! This whole deal is not only childish but unethical and both parties were old enough to know how a sportsman should act/behave. Hunter old enough to know that bright shiny pontoon would flare the dumbest of ducks lol. Live on Ky. Lake middle Tn. and don't Duck hunt anymore rather fish year around. If I or 99.9% of others happen to come up on blind with spread out and they don't show themselves, we either holler or whistle to see if it's being hunted as lots of guys that hunt main lake leave decoys out . It's called respect but more importantly there is a firearm involved and this day and age you just don't know what crazy person do. Hell around here there's very few like these fellas but there's always those that are however far and few between. Must be a regional geographic thing reckon or upbringing.
Exactly.... well said
Reminds me of sailboat racing in the fall. For some reason duck hunters thought a racing buoy was marking a good spot to hunt, fishermen think the same thing. I was on one of the first boats to the mark and the hunters started yelling about what a shotgun would do to our sails. The boatowner calmly went below and came back with a flare gun and told them not as much damage as this will. The floating blind was covered in corn stalks.
Them hunters are jerks!
That was fisherman harassment. They completely understood what they where doing. They should be charged for this. You did nothing wrong. It’s their responsibility to ensure THEY do not shoot toward people buildings or roadways. THEIR responsibility. If you are there, they don’t shoot. Your not harrassing hem by moving through unknowingly. That’s a crock of shit and I woulda been fighting this guy. Pos bullies
Why would it be someone else's responsibility to make sure you don't shoot them. That seems ass backwards if your hunting and someone is in the direction you want to shoot your S.O.L why would someone get priority and the dude in the pontoon boat is an amazing douche either way. This guy handled this with a pretty high level of class. I live and fish in Florida and this would get you beat up for sure here and rightfully so.
I would have sat there for another couple of hours after that low class move by the hunters!
And did you report them? Him repeatedly saying "I dont want you to get shot" sounded like a smart ass trying to to make a threat.
People are *ssh*les. I've had the same thing happen when fishing from shore. Some ahole in a boat stops right in front of you.. They could go anywhere and you have nowhere else to fish from.. Then they get upset you keep casting right over there head.
He knows that some people put themselves in danger, they cry and try to sue the people who did not instigate the conflict to begin with after something happens.
Ya that struck me as odd, the hunter had no argument as there was a house where the fisherman was at. For hunting I would imagine one would simply not be able to hunt if you could see a house or homes kinda close I would think 🤔
@@hksjoshua That wasn't part of the conflict. They obviously can hunt there since there are several parties hunting in the same area.
@@cuivre2004 He knows people put themselves in danger?? Yeah you and ol boy are about even on the playing field.
If I 'm not mistaken in Michigan you have to be 400 feet from a dwelling to fire a gun and he didn't look that far away.
Louisiana is 100ft from any dwelling. But for a 1000ft he full shit. Public waters is just that
Ya that struck me as odd, the hunter had no argument as there was a house where the fisherman was at. For hunting I would imagine one would simply not be able to hunt if you could see a house or homes kinda close I would think 🤔
Michigan law states in the 2021 Waterfowl Digest that hunting "must be at least 450' from an occupied building, dwelling, house, residence or cabin, or any barn or other building used in connection with a farm operation. To hunt within a safety zone, you must obtain the written permission of the owner, renter or occupant of the property." Since there is no rearward facing camera we don't know if there even WERE such structures behind the fisherman. That being said, I hunt AND I fish. I'll guarantee those duck hunters were out on the water setting up their decoys & getting settled WELL before daylight. I highly doubt the fisherman had done the same. The flight path of the ducks MAY be coming from the fishermans direction. I've had ducks flare away from my setup cuz of a stinking change in wind. Imagine the ducks seeing a boat between them and the decoys...GONE!!! And I wouldn't doubt the fisherman knew that. If I come across another hunter or fisherman that's ALREADY in an established spot...I APOLOGIZE AND MOVE! The guy fishing was being a passive-aggressive 🐓🍭 and he knew it. "I'm leaving in 5 minutes!" *While never attempting to move* Then using the excuse (BEFORE the hunter started circling) that there are "Fishing harrassment" laws. There most definitely ARE. But how about a little courtesy to who's there first? And WHY tempt getting rained on by shotgun pellets? To prove what point? 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Seems to me it might be a bit late in the a.m. for hunting birds. They shoulda been out at sunrise- ready to go. And, yes, noticed houses across the lake- might be a bit too close even for 20 or 28 full choke. Just sayin'...
You called him all the proper names. Asses like that make all hunters look bad. tight lines.
I admire the way you kept your kool…How can they hunt so close to a dwelling anyway? An ahole is an ahole ,and the Aholes got guns.
450ft from a dwelling you're allowed to hunt
The ahole is this fisherman moving right on top of where these guys were hunting. He knew exactly what he was doing but doesn't care.
And i mean urban archery
I hunt like 40 feet from housing with a bow
@@outdoorguy4249 Obviously facing away from the houses, right?
Good old testosterone flowing, Sometimes being right isn’t always the best. Stay in your makeshift pontoon/hunting shack. Stay quiet. Let the fisherman fish quietly all alone for 10-15 minutes.
He wasn’t still fishing, he wasn’t playing music, he wasn’t yelling and screaming just casting and trolling a path . This disturbed the whole area.
“ you want to be a brick head. I can be a brick head to! Oh look now no fish no ducks. No one gets anything…..
Sounds like those kids at the playground who prefer if everyone sits out they win….
It’s outdoors. Come on. We all love it no sense being jerks to each other….. sometimes 10 minutes of patience could have resulted in a PB. Or a few extra ducks….
Side note: pretty close to a house for hunting? ????
Hope you caught a well worth fish later in the day my man
This fisherman is a dick. He should never have started fishing right where this guy set up to hunt.
It is pretty tough when you start at 4AM, carry several thousand dollars of specialized gear to duck hunt, only good up to 8AM, and some fisherman shows up and ruins your effort. I side with the duck hunter on this one, this fisherman is the inconsiderate ass. There are many places to fish effectively, not so with hunters.
I hunt and fish. I always give the person who is at the spot first plenty of space. Hunters have a way shorter season then most fishing seasons. I would have given the right of way to to the hunters if they were there first. Not looking to start a giant debate. I’m simply saying what i may have done in this situation
The hunter was an ah. He just lost a day of hunting . Lol
Nope.. hunters have more then one option to shoot birds in other direction. Fisherman is in the right and fisherman was trolling through.
@@onyxleaf34 He wasn't trolling anywhere-his foot wasn't on the TM- he was loafing, pure and simple. Him being there is keeping any passing birds from coming in to land.
@@onyxleaf34 trolling for fish or hunters?
that how I was brought up. why make both of your day shit. seems pretty stupid. why do we need stupid laws to be kind and give each other space while hunting or fishing?
Not a duck hunter but couple hundred yards I guess to be safe. Use to pheasant hunt years ago in MI we never shot in direction of anything but the bird. My oppion both outdoorsman could have done better. God bless 🇺🇸.
He's harassing a Fisherman. The law works both ways. What a numbskull.
You showed more restraint than me. I would have been fishing for loudmouths!
I’ve been out fishing this time of year many times and have gone out of my way to steer clear of hunters.
In saying that though there have been a few instances because of the camouflage I never saw them until I was almost right on top of them. And without a word I vacate very quickly.
Just one of those things where I had plenty other areas to fish and I’m not trying to get accidentally shot.
Each circumstance might be different as you said you had a conversation already with these hunters and that you would be out of their way soon. If they were satisfied then it was a done deal.
There was absolutely no reason for the heavy set guy to come across the lake in his pontoon to accuse you of harassment when obviously he was the harasser.
I would have for sure called the sheriff or DNR and explained what happened with your initial conversation with the original hunters and showed the video of the guy in the pontoon harassing you. Otherwise he will continue to think he is above the law. People like that need to be put in their place.
Call it like it is, he was fat not heavy set. And a bell end to boot.
I agree with you 100%
the law also says that "you must never point your firearm at anything that you don't intend to shoot".
You being in the open in plain view fishing, is ok.They were concealed. They would have no excuse if you were shot.
They were in the wrong from what I can see.
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Sometimes when you're fishing you will get people telling you " this is my spot ". Never seen hunters come on the lake and tell someone to move.
That guy in the pontoon boat would have a visit from me for the day I would not move come hell or high water
Next time bring a Bar-B-Q grill and make a day of it. It looks like the houses are too close for hunting there anyways. Got to be a Democrat.
What a sick. They could have left you alone to fish it out. They came to you. And we’re an ass
The guy scared every single bird within 3 miles away with that loud ass 2 stroke.
Keep doing what your doing never let someone push u out or tell u what to do
Good place to fish away from others. A great place to hunt where nobody else is.
Shot ("bullets" for those of you siding with the 600 lb hunter) can travel well past their "range" when they get a few bounces off the water. Should haven't been hunting so close to all those houses
Some people are so miserable with their life that they have to make sure your life is miserable too they have to knock you down in order to build them up this guy is just a jerk.
Some friends of mine was harassed while water skiing a slalom course on a public lake. Some karen told them they wasn't allowed to do so. Guess who got their feelings hurt? They went back every weekend for the rest of the summer.