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Seed oil is not bad for you?? At this point, we need a panel discussion with all of these scientists, biochemist, and nutritionists. Also, we need to know who all these people are sponsored by or paid by because that makes the difference in the message or their so-called narrative!
Most seed oils in the supermarket are highly processed with heat & chemicals, using seeds grown using chemicals. Unsurprisingly, these are bad for our body and health. HOWEVER, organically grown and cold processed seed oils (which are more expensive of course) are absolutely fine to consume. It's the same with the difference between processed, factory produced bread from non organic wheats are VERY different from handmade bread using organic wheats.
Seed oils are made using the same chemicals and heat process as the oil in your car. Look u the history of Crisco. It was made for military tank pistons.
Isn’t it mad that the more processed something is the cheaper it seems. When it would seem that it takes more resources and time to make it processed rather than cutting all of that out and just go from tree to package?
I am a 55 year old woman who had some joint pain. I cut out seed oils and the pain was reduced in one month and completely gone within 3 months. I have to trust my specific experience.
I have had the same experience. No more knee pain, neck pain, or headaches after cutting out seed oils. I can actually run for miles and play basketball again at 42.
Can’t really trust anything she says once I saw her stance on seed oils. Any time I eat seed oil my skin breaks out and I get super inflamed. I eat olive or peanut oil and don’t have any of those effects
Guys! You don't uderstand? She is right, seed oils are perfectly fine and good for you! As long as you leave it on the shelf at the grocery store and don't touch it under any circumstances, everything will be fine. 😊
@@norbucsoKraft and philip morris. Addiction to junk food genius idea if you’re not the poor rat being fed poison. You get to rake in the cash. While the lab rats have to fight off the dopamine to resist buying fries, chips, and ice cream.
1:00:00 she talks about correlation is not causation for seed oils but then goes on to say seed oils are better than tallow because they reduce cholesterol, which is correlated with heart attacks. Can't have it both ways.
Humans are designed to be hunter-gatherers, would naturally eat animal fats while eating meat, but would not naturally eat seed oils, except a very tiny amount when eating some seeds, and that seed oil would include natural insoluable fibre surrounding the seeds, slowing down it's digestion. A very small amount and very slowly digested.
Cholesterol does not cause heart attacks. It is there repairing damage to the cells caused by something else, most likely blood pressure since atherosclerosis happens in areas of high turbulence. See Dr Paul Mason for the truth about Cholesterol.
They're out to make money. Period. So she's kind of right. They should care about the impact to their fellow humans, but since greed is clearly a disease that runs the decisions of weak minds, we can't expect them to.
I am in a position as a retited ceo of a foodservice company to confide in your readers that a senior exec of a well known company producing oils and margarine products quote: " if you knew what goes into manufacturing these products you would stay away from anything with highly processed and deodorized oil products.
I worked in a margarine and vegetable oil business. I will never touch the stuff. It is a smell and sight that will never leave my brain. Not fit for human consumption
I appreciate what Steve is trying to do - neutral journalism that allows both sides to speak. Clearly the public is making up its own mind about the truth, seeing by the comments. This is how journalism should be.
Good point, though I think it would have been best if Steven made a full disclosure at the beginning of the interview that he's an investor in ZOE, the company who employs the woman he's interviewing as their Chief Scientist.
@@dpie But that's the world we live in - so many lies, I think we are learning it behooves everyone to read, have critical thinking and save themselves.
@@Elusive.magickyes, but really the repeated heating which causes rampant oxidation and rancidity is the big issue. before you even cook with it. The whole process is not just flawed, it’s fraudulent. It shouldn’t be consumed/breathed in at all.
Then they have to deodorize it because if would smell what it actually smells like we would never consume it. People didn’t have chronic disease before the introduction of seed oils and high fructose corn syrup. It doesn’t take a genius to figure this one out. We’re being scammed by the food industry, our governments and big pharma. Follow the money $$$
This is like saying bread is not bad for you. Without distinguishing between a sourdough and a McDonald’s bun. McDonald’s bun full of emulsifiers and seed oils, sourdough is just flour water and salt. You can’t blanket cover bread like that and call it healthy. If you consume extra virgin olive oil cold pressed and not heated, extremely healthy, but if you consume sunflower oil not only is it heated and damaged, to extract it along with chemical treatment to deodorise it. Then further heated and damaged when cooked into a cake or other ultra processed food. This damaged oil does not fit your cells properly for energy, cholesterol raises to make it fit. Along side that it is high in omega 6 which if you consume more than a 4:1 ratio of omega 6 to 3 you will be put into a pro inflammatory state. This means sunflower oil is 40:1 so for every 40 grams you would need to eat 10 grams of omega 3 that’s about 250g (3 salmon fillets) or 5x the dose of a fish oil capsule.
Great points!.. I would point out though that olive oil is not a seed oil it's made from the fruit of the olive.. the appropriate analogy for sour dough would be cold pressed sunflower oil rather than industrially produced.. but still has v high omega 6. Cheers
The only redeeming aspect of this interview is the comments section. It gives me some hope to see how many people recognise the nonsense this woman is talking.
Because all the people in the comments have 20 years of food and nutrition research history. You might not agree with some of the statements but acting like a comment section is some indicator of correctness is madness.
This woman is a Scientist in the field, citing a meta-analysis study of (42! ) prospective randomised studies saying that seed oil is good for us is enough for me to reintegrate it to my diet. This is evidence in it's purest form. Any discussion boards of influencers are now superflu.
@Andrea-pw4cz Ask yourself where the funding came from, and guess who owns a stake in the food industry... pharmaceutical companies. Yeah, hard disagree pal.
@Andrea-pw4czbut theres so many more qualified scientists who say different, that seed olis are terrible for humans and so many more studies to back it up, i know who i trust and it isn't this lady
q.e.d. … Dr. Sarah Berry serves as the Chief Scientist at ZOE, a health testing and membership service that provides personalized nutrition advice. Steven Bartlett is an investor in ZOE through his investment vehicle, Flight Fund. Additionally, ZOE sponsors Bartletts podcast, The Diary of a CEO, where Dr. Berry has appeared as a guest. This indicates a business connection between Dr. Berry and Bartlett through their association with ZOE.
Is this woman a joke? Is this whole conversation? What on earth! For real good Lord just eat one ingredient foods. This is ridiculous. Super disappointing in this.
Follow the money, and all will become clear. Ask who is funding these opinions? What she's saying has been followed for decades, has it worked for us?? No.
This woman has been paid. The head of USDA, is Kailee Buller, head of National Oilseeds Processors Association, one of the largest seed oil lobbying groups in the US. 🤦♂️🤮
@sarahwalkerbeach6985 there's a symbiotic relationship between these industries and governing bodies. They cross hire with major conflicts of interest. I scratch your back, you scratch mine.
When I went to the doctors about high blood pressure they told me to eat less salt and recommended the food pyramid, where you don’t eat much of red meats etc. over the next 4/5 years my blood pressure increased more. 2 yrs ago I started carnivore lifestyle, where I eat a lot of red fatty meats, eggs and more salt than I’ve ever had before. My blood pressure has reduced dramatically and I am now 7st lighter. Cholesterol all good. When I hear people talk about the importance of fibre and not eating much saturated fat , it rings alarm bells for me. I would recommend getting Dr Zoe Harcombe on for contrasting opinions on these topics
Congratulations! There's so much bad information out there. It's not easy to learn who or what to believe. I'm glad you figured it out. I cut out ultraprocessed foods, seed oils, and anything with modified starches as well. I had a full metabolic panel done a year later, and my cholesterol and my blood glucose were both completely normal. Before, I had high blood pressure, I was tired all the time but I couldn't sleep, I was depressed, and I got angry at the drop of a hat. I don't feel that way any more, and I've lost a LOT of weight! I go through at least a dozen eggs every week and I don't know how many pounds of red meat, and I'm healthier than I've ever been. Everyone says eggs and meat are really bad for people, but they are SO WRONG! Thank you for sharing your experience. I enjoyed reading about your success!
But you do not consider the innocent victims that were tortured and murdered for you? Mothers and children separated. If stables and slaughterhouses had glass walls, or people could hear their screaming in despair, nobody would eat animals. And be healthy.
@ Thanks for your comments. I'm not saying everyone has to follow carnivore lifestyle as different diets can work for different people, but this has changed my life. The symptoms that are resolved when eating this way is incredible. I'm glad you've discovered this too
The comments helped me to not waste my time listening to this interview. She said "we eating too much, yes. But ultra process food helps to give us energy". Madness! 😂😂😆😆
@@Zachhatesyoutube Calories represent the unit of energy contained in food, while metabolism is the body's process of converting that food into energy. Eat too much ultra processed foods and your body will convert the excess calories into fat
- Three things that changed my life: 1. started watching health videos 2. I read the book called: Health Secrets Industry Hides 3. I stopped eating excess sugar
I propose you to invite the great Nina Teicholz for the counterarguments. In short, her (Sarah Berrys) argument is: before, seed oils were bad because of the way we processed them at that time, creating trans fat. Now, we create them differently. And we need to trust experts that now that process is better. I don't buy it, especially because she seems to put herself on the 'researcher high-ground', as if the idea of seed oil being bad is a social media thing (while she can't deny it was, at least in the past, true). I trust Nina Teicholz better, who claims (in her classic 'The Big Fat Surprize') that the new processes for creating seed oil is as bad as before, but that there are too few studies they did to check whether they are healthy or not. Research is heavily sponsored by the industry, resulting in limited focus studies giving the opportunity to experts to say that if you know the hard studies, this and that is not unhealthy.
🚨For deeper nuance on seed oils, please read this comment (from a PhD Scientist in Metabolism, Oxford and Harvard Medical School) - Based on the emails and direct messages I’ve received since this episode was released I think there are some matters of confusion that deserve clarification regarding “seed oils” and omega-6 and 3 fats. First, it’s important not to equate “seed oils,” which is a rather fluffy term, with omega-6 fats. Needless to say, french fry oil and a walnut are not the same. I agree with the guest on the whole that Omega-6 fear mongering is overblown. However, it’s incorrect to suggest there are no issues with respect to omega-6 or “seed oil” consumption. The discussion starting at ~1:02:00 is overly dismissive, in my opinion and rather condescending. First there are data suggesting an Omega-6/3 imbalance can directly cause inflammation & metabolic dysfunction. Such studies are actually best done in genetically modified mice since the key omega-6 and 3 are essential nutrients that can’t be synthesized by the body; thus, you need to change other components of the diet to manipulate ratios in humans. Also - and CRITICALLY - it’s practically not possible to conduct the sorts of long-term RCTs one would need to detect a clinically meaningful difference that may result as a function of changing tissue/organ ratios of omega-6/3 ratios in humans. Such trials would need to last many months or even years. Thus, with respect to what’s considered “top tier evidence” there is a deficiency of data. That’s true. However, neither it’s a matter of “absence of (long-term RCT) is not absence of evidence (or harm.” If you’d like more thoughts on seed oils, please see this video: ua-cam.com/video/0eMguvxWWf4/v-deo.html. I think anyone who takes the time to watch will agree there is more nuance in this topic than the podcast discussion reviews. I’d be more than happy to dialogue long-form with the host or guest. I’ve had a listen to most of the episode and agree with many comments from the guest, but would also offer a different perspective on some matters, like the causative role (or lack thereof) of calories in obesity and the legitimacy of the “in moderation” approach.
It's not a fluffy term. People defending canola oils are using it as a fluffy term so they can hide it behind cold-pressed rapeseed oil -.- EVERYONE KNOWS, WHEN SEED OILS ARE BEING MENTIONED- THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANOLA, VEGETABLE, SOYBEAN, SUNFLOWER, ECT. DON'T PLAY DUMB!
I listened to a podcast from a farmer who presses his own oils…including seed oils like sunflower etc. It makes sense to me that if we were consuming freshly pressed oils that it would be worlds away from what most of us would consume getting it off a shelf in a grocery store. Absolutely they are more rancid/volatile/cause inflammation in the body. Why can’t we study this more. I feel like the very people who are supposed to be curious, are often the ones telling other people that they shouldn’t be curious and that x,y,z is established in stone.
I didn't pay attention to who the writer of this comment was. But as I was continuing reading I was wondering: this kind of "speaking" sounds so familiar. So I scrolled back up. And here he is: Nick Norwitz That's science! Thanks for your comment on this b*s
@ When you said, "I feel like the very people who are supposed to be curious, are often the ones telling other people that they shouldn’t be curious and that x,y,z is established in stone," I think that perfectly encapsulates the issue I felt I certain parts of this discussion. Often, scientific consensus is far less "consensus" as we are led to believe... and that's coming from someone who has spent a fair amount of time around those presenting the 'consensus'
Hi Nick, as much as I could go deeper and tried to understand the "research" on seed oils, almost all of the studies are done on lab-grade freshest possible seed oils they could get from the suppliers, not the ones regular people purchase from the stores that sit on the shelves for months or even years and not on the seed oils that sits on the counter open to air, heat and sunlight for months until it's consumed in our kitchens. We all know that because of the chemical structure all seed oils regardless of which plant it comes is prone to very fast oxidation process no matter how you extract them (chemically or cold pressed) So it is inherent that seed oils consumed by regular consumers in their kitchens and in restaurants will be heavily oxidated when they're consumed. Claiming that seed oils don't have any harm and using these studies done on fresh ones that they could source directly from supplier should not even be considered as an evidence. If we agree that oxidated oils are inflammatory then all seed-oils should be avoided by humans categorically. You don't need double blind, placebo controlled, randomized studies to agree on this fact. I'm not objecting what you're saying, I'm just saying you're very political and nuanced, even when you don't need to be honestly...
At the 4:00 minute mark, Dr. Sarah places blame on the highly processed foods that people have been eating for the last thirty years for our health problems. I believe she is correct, but she fails to acknowledge that seed oils are a highly processed food. I take this as an admission that seed oils are a major part of the problem since they are an ingredient in most processed foods. This contradiction ruins her credibility for me.
If you replace saturated fats with seed oil, LDL will lower and so will cardiovascular risk. That's how seed oils are good. If you're all WFPB, which barely no one is, seed oils will probably be detrimental. I personally don't eat them because it's useless excess fat, not because of inflamation.
@@purpleblueunicornstudy evidence please? There isn’t any! Also we were all told to change from eating butter to eating margarine (grain and seed oils) and heart disease has only escalated.
@@JaneUK this doesn't indicate causality, we also started eating a ton more chicken and cheese, could be chicken too. We now know lol is causal to heart disease and butter raises it. Margarine used to have trans fat and was also causal to heart disease. Anyway, we shouldn't eat neither, it's all fat and making people obese for no nutritional value.
Love that The Diary of a CEO explores a wide range of perspectives on various topics, allowing the audience to decide for themselves what to believe. It's also refreshing to see the comment section filled with thoughtful discussions-people are smarter than we sometimes give them credit for!
She is fronting a corporate business backed by investment firms that support big aggro. She isn't telling us seed oils are good because she has a different view, she is telling us its good because it makes her rich. You are naive. Check who is funding ZOE, and dig around. Took me 15 minutes on google.
Only came here for the comments. I’d spend my afternoons watching Steven and his usually incredible guests. This is a HARD PASS for me. The only thing “leading” about Berry is that she’s leading uninformed folks down the primrose path. Come on, Steven. Seriously, mate?!
She does not even understand what a proper randomised "controlled" study is. Her description is "asking" people to use a particular oil for a month, which means they weren't in a controlled environment..
@@Alecmcq Dr Sarah Berry is a Professor in the Department of Nutritional Sciences at King's College London and Chief Scientist at ZOE. She is also the lead nutritional scientist on the PREDICT program, the world’s largest in-depth nutritional research programme. She’s a professor. Lol you’re so dumb.
'do not eat after 9pm'. I clicked on this as a former night shift worker. I ate 80% of my calories from 8pm till 7am in the morning. I worked night shift for almost 10 years and managed to get absolutely shredded (and started my fitness youtube channels) by controlling my calories and eating most of those calories 'after 9pm'. Don't be scared to eat late at night, calorie control is the key.
It was interesting to hear her say that processed foods are bad because of things like extra saturated fats and salt, but doesn't even mention added sugar.
Oh wow. If you've ever watched someone talk a bunch of bullshit on something you're knowledgeable on, how the illusion comes crashing down about some people and content creators. Sorry, Diary of a CEO- if this is the crap you're peddling, you can do it without my views, my dude.
Dr Jason Fung was an extraordinary guest ,which could not be any clearer.Because of him I reclaimed my health and fitness back and avoided hip replacement surgery.Dr Berry does not appear to elaborate in the mechanism of absorption, glucose fluctuations etc...
She's on the board for ZOE. A company Steven is hugely invested in. She's either being paid for leaning towards the bias ZOE is promoting, or she's delusional... I'm educated enough to believe it's not the latter! Hugely disappointed in Steven promoting his investment interest in this way. There's some very dangerous, and insanely false advice given in this episode 😔 And if anyone is still thinking this isn't scripted... She just happens to mention in conversation that she's going through perimenopause and, oh look, Steven has a graph he printed out earlier... 🤦
She seems to be putting people off consuming cholesterol but cholesterol is necessary for cell protection and proper functioning. It is a vital component of cell membranes, helping to maintain their structure and fluidity. Cholesterol stabilizes the phospholipid bilayer of the membrane, ensuring it stays flexible yet strong enough to protect the cell.
@mcorby2145 research who she works for, who funded the research that the 'fact check' is based on. More and more cardiologists are coming to the same conclusion about fats and oils now. Industries are fighting against it but the truth is getting out. It's going to take time to undo the damage done in the 1950's. I could gjve you names but this platform deletes what doesn't suit. When you consider the utter nonsense they allow in comments sections, you know you've hit a nerve when you can't mention certain Dr's and scientists.
Please get Catherine Shanahan on your podcast. She is the author of Deep Nutrition. Her arguments against seed oils are based on lipid scientists research. 700+ references are at the back of her book. Or organise a panel! But sorry this person you have on right now should talk about more research to show seed oils are okay, with details. "We have done studies" is not enough. Showing that an anti-seed oil study was based on margarine is not enough. If in doubt, I would go back to what nature makes as food and don't over eat. Glucose Goddess is a good source too. Steven keep up the good work! Thanks for your efforts.
I just jumped to the fiber section to see what she has to say about it. She says "Amazing nutrient" Well its not amazing and its not a nutrient. She knows nothing about nutrition. Enough for me
Nutritional Science is basically pseudoscience at this point. The amount of contradictions and alternating opinions these ‘nutritionists’ impose on us makes me feel that science-backed diet is just a myth. We have ‘nutritionists’ pushing for high-protein diets, others promoting more fats and others promoting fruits and vegetables and unprocessed foods. Some push for low-carb and others high-carb diets. These nutritionists are an absolute joke, and should not be trusted.
The real sunflower oil is of brown colour and it has very distinctive sunflower seed flavour. I grew up in the area where sunflower was grown on the 60% of agricultural land. The virgin sunflower oil is the most delicious and healthy oil that you’d ever eat. It is the processing such as bleaching that happens in the USA that makes it unhealthy not the fact that it comes from seeds!
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She doesn’t know how greedy the American companies are lmao I think she needs to do another 20 years of research. Companies have been known to pay scientists to make food as palatable as possible and with little to no regard to safety of the consumer. Their goal is business NOT making healthy food, that’s why us/canada has record high health problems. We changed our diet drastically over the past century
I come from a family of doctors, I have studied nutrition and health for over a decade. There are so many contradictions by 'experts' and it's confusing and frustrating. I have come to the conclusion to do whatever works best for me...
I live in Portugal and in many hot European countries we don't have our evening meal till 9 or 10 at night yet have a far higher life expectancy and massively less obesity rates than the UK/ USA.
it depends on our genes. of course there are genetic variables which determines our life expectancy as well. its not only about timing. but time to eat and sleep of course matters in general. we have our own biological clock and mechanism that only allows the disciplined timing to eat and sleep.
Europeans, and I think in particular your region, walk/move a lot more which is why nutrition cannot be looked at in isolation. Your physical activity is probably really helpful at keeping a good balance.
We hear everything and its contrary. I dont listen anymore. I listen to my body réaction and I believe eat simple , healthy like 2000 years ago and you will be ok ! Olive oil , ghee and butter are my only fats. Period ! The other ones werent around so out; Humanity has survived few 1000s years without all the modernand bad foods, this is mainlevée marketing and business
I do not trust what this person it saying, but your argument is flawed. By that logic, electricity is bad because humanity has survived without it until roughly two centuries ago. Even fire was a new technology at some point to early homonids. It can be good to follow what "feels right", but engage in scientific discussion.
Humanity has survived without antibiotics. Listening to your body won't show your arteries getting blocked, first symptom might be death. Humanity will go on, you just need to make at least 2 kids and you can do this before even being 20 yo.
As soon as she said seed oils are good for you, I turned off. She is an idiot. I think you got suckered into inviting this guest onto your show. I think some guests need to be better vetted before they are on your show. The first person on your show with no credibility at all. She's talking gibberish
@@imp3235 just experiment for yourself. I guarantee 99% of people who exclude seed oils from their diet will feel amazing. The other 1% are delusional people or those with their own agendas.
Dr Ken Berry not Dr Sarah Berry. Animals fats not processed fats. Facts not statistics. Actual positive health outcomes proven not hypothetical...".maybe in ten years, I'll be proven wrong." Obesity, diabetes and chronic heart disease are really issues we need to hear about, not defending nutritional scientists who got it wrong for 70 years.
I know that seedoils lowers testostorone. Grassfed dairy is a good source of protien. Sleep is super important. i pay attention to how i feel , after consuming anything. 😊
I need to watch the whole thing still but I have a hard time believing that seed oils are okay still... The industry has purposely AVOIDED thoroughly testing lots of processed foods including cheap seed oils because they want to AVOID red flags that would take it off the market and less profit. I'll update my response if I change my mind after watching the whole thing. Im about 15 mins into it right now. Trying to keep an open mind. The mixture of garbage in processed foods also creates carcinogenic combinations that a lot of people dont even account for. Vitamin companies actually have to be super careful about the mixtures of vitamins that they create because of how easy it is for certain vitamin combinations WILL give humans cancer (proven stuff). Meanwhile none of us citizens know what combinations are carcinogenic because nothing stops us from going out and buying bad combinations of separate vitamins and foods and not knowing it, and then taking-in a potentially carcinogenic combination. Insane! I'll be making a UA-cam video on this soon.
@@FamilyHealthLabThank you for sharing, friend! There's also a video made by a science nerd on UA-cam, where he literally simply cooks seed oils to normal cooking temperatures and adds a basic catalyst like sugar or fat to it, and you see clearly see that the seed oils form a carcinogenic plastic-like substance and burn and give off the smell of toxic chemicals. Therefore, I dont buy that seed oils are remotely safe to use for cooking, at the very least.
@ looks like this prof Berry may have some links to industry “Prof Berry runs courses on healthy fats for the British Nutrition Foundation. Yay, I thought- I love an online course and the British Nutrition Foundation sounds like an awesome foundation… except that it is a lobby group funded by the processed food industry.” Source Real Life Medicine group
Many people including myself have better health from not consuming processsed food and seed oils etc. We do our own research and therefore are more informed and sceptical about the information available regarding our health. You should have a guest who could actually challenge this particular scientist in her views and speculations. Thanks
Wow! My favourite interview so far. I find this lady inspiring, easy to understand, and such a warm communicator. Congratulations Professor, you deserve every bit of this achievement. Keep up the fantastic work you do. You are a diamond.😊
Stephen has little credibility anymore. He's gone the way of most popular podcasters. They sell their souls to maintain position on the premiership ladder.
Food industry is there to make more and more profit each year for their shareholders. This is simply incompatible with them making food that is good for our health.
I like to sear my steaks, but the inside is basically raw usually. But the point wasn’t to say you should never cook or process food in any way, just to demonstrate that food we are meant to eat can be eaten as is. We can bite into a cow and eat the flesh as is, no problem.
Think of it this way. It takes approximately 600 sunflower seeds to make 1 tablespoon of sunflower oil. It takes about 2000 canola seeds to do the same. If the average American consumes 3 tablespoons of these oils a day, that's 1,800 sunflower seeds. Id love to hear her justify that.
Regards the seed oil debate the thing is to ask what happens when you heat any natural seed or nut to a high temperature? The answer is obvious; it denatures, ie goes from being something healthy to something unhealthy. The higher the temperature the worse the health outcome. Not to mention all the additional processing, bleaching etc that goes on. To really understand this process listen to Udo Erasmus who has done so much good work to unravel this one. His legendary book fats that heal fats that kill is the only one you need to read to fully understand this subject.
I agree with most of the commentaries (especially about the food industry helping us). Still, at 25:55, it simply explains the difference between eating fruit and drinking it (as a smoothie), or eating peanuts vs peanut butter (grounded to a paste w/o additives) and I find it helpful. I understood well how physical processing affects our calorie intake. Solely this knowledge is worth watching. We can learn from everybody, and everything the key is not losing our critical approach, and not believing everything we see.
I agree, even Steven mentions how he takes things that line up between the professionals he speaks with and sees how those things may help him and finds what’s best for him based on it. There are pieces we can still learn from her. There was another professional who mentioned that through the years our jaw strength has lessened. Our jaw bones are smaller then our ancestors because we eat more processed foods and have to chew less. There is a lot we can gain by eating food more as a whole rather then broken down.
This is absurd. The only possitive thing i got out of this was, chew your food. But thats common sense. The food industry isnt out to help the consumer. Seed oils are horrible.
Mic drop situation with this woman! "Who pays for her research, is what I would like to know.?" I switched off after she said, " Seed oils are good for you." I had become a little disinterested at food industries not harming us😮. But continued listening. it was all defo nutri bollocks! As she would say!!
In July 2024, ZOE secured a $15 million investment from Coefficient Capital, a US-based consumer-focused venture capital firm[1][2]. This funding was an extension of ZOE's Series B round, bringing the company's total investment to $118 million[2][5]. Coefficient Capital, which has previously backed companies like Oatly and Just Spices, led this funding round to support ZOE's expansion plans in the United States[2][6].
Weird. How do you explain all the people that feel better after removing these substances? Not only feeling better, but having improved blood work. I feel like someone has a Big Food/Pharma check in their pocket.
Yes... As of 1000 of above comments.. I have cut out seed oils and ultra high processed foods and have seen the great health benefits.... I dont no where this health expert has her information/studies from.... Also the point about big foods not being in it for the money.... Was that a joke? Go and watch the podcast with the great grand-daughter of "kellogs". She has told the truth about breakfast cereal. The only one of your podcasts i have disagreed strongly about so far.
"I dont no where this health expert has her information/studies from" Take 30s and google seed oils and inflammation meta analysis. Ask chat gpt. They'll all link to real science, no pseudo science chiropractors doctors.
Seriously? You have Chief Scientist at ZOE talking about a very controversial topic, when ZOE is one of your top sponsors... Talk about conflict of interest. Im sure there's a logical explanation as to why this was, but just the optics make shows like this lose a lot of credibility if not mentioned beforehand.
In July 2024, ZOE secured a $15 million investment from Coefficient Capital, a US-based consumer-focused venture capital firm[1][2]. This funding was an extension of ZOE's Series B round, bringing the company's total investment to $118 million[2][5]. Coefficient Capital, which has previously backed companies like Oatly and Just Spices, led this funding round to support ZOE's expansion plans in the United States[2][6].
Steven, I’m claiming your deal. I subscribed (long ago) now please listen to who I need you to interview. Her name is Sue Becker. She is a food scientist and she has dedicated her life to teaching people why it is ESSENTIAL to use freshly milled flour in bread and other baked goods. When I first learned how the mass production of flour changed the way humans have eaten for thousands of years I actually felt violated. I felt like someone assaulted me. It is not the gluten, it is the flour. It is not the carbs, it is the flour. 150 years ago everyone knew flour needed to be used immediately. Look up two documentaries, one is called Flour Power and the other The History and Origin of Flour, both are on UA-cam.
The problem is all the studies that look at seed oils isolate the seed oil and therefore it is likely to be a cold pressed undamaged one that won’t cause inflammation to make it look like it is safe for food companies to put into ultra processed food. I bet she has not seen the studies showing the rate of heart attacks vs the introduction of seed oils. It is clear what’s going on. 50 years ago people were not obese and they cooked their food with butter and lard. Saturated fat on its own does not cause inflammation I lost over 70lbs eating it everyday and inflammation markers, blood pressure lowered and asthma remission. But before I was consuming seed oils everyday in my ultra processed foods and cooking with it.
No, studies on seed oils use standard non organic seed oils don't show higher inflammation. Just google meta analysis seed oils and inflammation or ask chat gpt. Nutrition made simple has many videos about this and he's a researcher without financing and bias. He's just looking at whatever science papers are available.
I stopped using veg oil for cooking jan 2024, been using butter, beef dripping and duck fat, ate more red meat and I've never felt better. Thinking of trying full carnivore. In the pat year I've had a few indian takeaways, these are made with veg oil, for days after it makes me feel so bad. This woman is not helping people.
No study shows seed oils cause inflammation, if it were true we'd have at least some studies showing it. Eating a highly processed diet will cause inflammation and seed oils is often added in the bunch. I don't eat oils because it's useless calories, not because of inflamation, that's ridiculous.
Everything packaged or from restaurants is loaded with them. Breads, chips, soups, pastries, donuts, margarine, salad dressings, sauces, fried and sautéed foods, ie French fries, onion rings, breaded zuchini, even pan pizza, etc, etc..
This is what I find so frustrating. You can find someone to support or denounce pretty much anything so you are left not knowing anything for sure. Dr. Oz was big on sharing all the contradictory information on his show and what was the result? I don’t think people take him seriously anymore.
The analytics for this video would be interesting to see. The thumb nail for many people would be offputtibg. I would love to see Dr. Ken D.Berry rebuke THIS Dr. Berry. Or Dr. Sean Baker. She's been paid off!
I am particularly concerned with the strong association between seed oils and age-related macular degeneration which causes progressive blindness in hundreds of millions of people around the world. This disease was unknown at the beginning of the 20th century and tracks with the increase in seed oil consumption. Crucially, in populations which still eat an ancestral diet without seed oils, this disease is extremely rare. My mother and grandfather had this condition and I do not want to be next.
At 01:54:20 into the podcast, the guest shares a simple, practical tip. She talks about a supplement with a special ingredient that can help reduce the negative effects of menopause on the body. I think this is super important, and *I want to thank the guest for the advice*
Dr. Berry is an intelligent con! She mixes some of the latest aspects of life-saving lifestyle changes with old-fashioned beliefs that were contributing to my personal ill health and congestive heart failure. Most of us know better than her what's best for us because we have no choice but to find our own individual balance. Advocating for the wine and eating when the family eats, over abstaining from alcohol and intermittent fasting indirectly sends the message: Don't make lifestyle changes. And then she turns around and says, "how are you going to keep the weight off." Unbelievable! She conspicuously avoided the benefit of autophagy with intermittent fasting, something that does not occur with simple caloric restriction. Dr. Berry knows that she has nothing to contribute going forward, so she invites controversy by going backwards.
Wow, wow , WOW!! I’m in tears. What an inspiring conversation on so many levels! Thank you for emphasising the importance of pleasure!! “If a healthy food is too healthy for you to enjoy, it’s not healthy at all”. I believe that too! I’m a big believer in dolce far niente and I wouldn’t sacrifice all pleasure for health benefits. I eat healthy, I exercise, I practice yoga, I travel, I do what I love most (writing), I raise 2 incredible daughters and have quality friendships. This is all part of my “diet”! In other words, joy! How refreshing to hear a nutrition scientist talk about this and emphasise its importance. I cried at the end and wanted to give her a huge hug! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! What a beautiful person.
She is full of shit..she is a talker and been placed out there by the food Industry.She fact that she said she doest want to believe what your other guests have said and she keep play the victim card by saying "I'm a Scientist, no one wants to listen to us"tells me she has been paid off by the Food industry. She's not looking at the other Chemical processes that are used in extracting seed oil which make seed oil bad for us. She never once brought that up. One thing I come to know about scientists is they don't like to be wrong or proven wrong and she knows she's wrong. She need to dig deeper into a biology.
”We don’t get a voice, we”re not being heard” was it? Well, I believe it’s because you shouldn’t. People who have tried different diets and actually had the disciplin and character to change their lifestyle can testify (as seen in the comments) wether seed oils, sugar, processed and highly processed carbs make their life better or worse. Glucose spikes and intermittent fasting and lots of other things too. Yes, you should choose a variety of foods that you enjoy to have the most beneficial effects, and peace and harmony and the company of your loved ones at the dinner table also has great positive impact on your digestion, but as long as you crave sugar, it’s your bacteria and brain you’re feeding, and it’s not good for you. While there are a few crumbs of sensibility one can find if looking in this podcast interview, a lots of rubbish comes out of her mouth…unfortunately. She’s opposing things she doesn’t understand, haven’t experienced and is no expert on. She doesn’t explain why she attacks stuff either…It destroys her credibility in my eyes.
It is surprising how many people insist on ignorance. Science is there to corroborate knowledge and help guide us into new knowledge. The order we eat, the structure of the food we eat, impact how or body responds. Stop complaining and start listening so you GROW as a human being. Very interesting show. Thanks!
@@davidr1431There is a video on UA-cam from a researcher who puts up dozens of meta-analyses of clinical trials on seed oils. Watch it please! (Channel: Nutrition Made Simple)
To the people saying “cold pressed organic seed oils are fine” I just want to remind you that the issue is this; loads of seed oils are added to our food, and these seed oils aren’t being processed in the organic cold pressed fashion. Most ingredient lists (even something like cereal) have seed oils in them. That is not good to consume.
Studies done on non organic non cold pressed standard seed oils don't show higher inflammation. Just google meta analysis seed oils and inflammation or ask chat gpt.
@ Who paid for the study? Also they failed to mention the toxic chemicals used to extract the oil and what happens when it’s heated in extraction and heated in cooking. These studies have been debunked many times. Search UA-cam for “Why is vegetable oil in everything”.
No way :( I think a lot of us who watch The Diary Of A CEO episodes trust the guests that are interviewed because by now we seem to trust The Diary Of A Ceo. But not this. We come here for information that adds value to our lives. It's so disappointing to see this interview. Most of the comments here show we have moved passed this mindset of the Dr being interviewed and we aren't falling for this way of thinking any longer. Amongst previous guests there are a lot of common opinions/themes, with the majority moving and evolving in the same direction. Maybe this interview has been done to show neutrality. It doesn't add up. But we come here for the truth and to get informed. Neutrality is not needed if it is harmful. We are familar with the topic in this video, so many of us won't fall for this. But what about the video topics we aren't familiar with. What do we believe going forward. This undoes some of the great work of The Diary Of A CEO. At least temporarily. It's off putting.
It's unfortunate because most of what she said made sense, though it wasn't anything new like she pretended. Sleep in sync with sun, don't eat late, eat natural food with fiber... The seed oils, junk food for "pleasure" and her saying she's gonna clear out that array of bad food examples fell flat. I think she tried to be relatable, but failed.
From reading the comments, it's scary how people take each guest scientist's advice as gospel. They have each done specialist research in different fields and give recommendations through their lens. As a scientist myself, I understand how research can sometimes oppose another's research... ultimately, you as a consumer of all the info, need to find an equilibrium point for what you want to follow. The guest scientists are also humans - who have experienced life differently, and so their research is communicated through their lens as individuals. Personally, I loved this episode because for one of the first times, a guest has said that strict diets are not sustainable, especially through certain difficult periods in life. If a ketogenic diet works for you.... great! Maybe for me, it doesn't work. Maybe intermittent fasting does not work well with my IBS. We all have very different variables to consider. We don't need to villify any scientist individual or rage against the food industry. Just take all the info in and use what suits your individual needs!
She's conveniently avoided talking about these oils becoming oxidised at high temperatures during their processing and that hexane (or cyclohexane?) is used to help process them. Why? Kindly address these concerns from the opposition or it undermines your credibility, as you seem to be cherry-picking arguments to debunk.
When she look in the mirror is she proud of herself? I just wonder.. This ,,specialists" make us sick..for decades..shame on her for the lies she says.
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Thank you for your relentlessness
I've been subbed to you a little over a year, I'm now unsubbing due to growing so tired and rolling my eyes at the way you act dumb/ask questions don't give push back and bring on idiotic guests who have been proven charlatans on the podcast. For every 1 podcast of yours I might listen to I skip 4, you are proof that being a successful CEO doesn't mean you're intelligent. Friends feel the same way. Ciao!
I am unsubscribing from your channel after this video. Complete bullshit. Shame on you for not challenging her for financial reasons.
Was subscribed until you deleted the episode with Dr Neal Barnard. Way to be a sell out.
Why do this after having multiple people on this pod cast who have all said the opposite, it's pretty annoying 😑
Seed oil is not bad for you?? At this point, we need a panel discussion with all of these scientists, biochemist, and nutritionists. Also, we need to know who all these people are sponsored by or paid by because that makes the difference in the message or their so-called narrative!
Most seed oils in the supermarket are highly processed with heat & chemicals, using seeds grown using chemicals. Unsurprisingly, these are bad for our body and health.
HOWEVER, organically grown and cold processed seed oils (which are more expensive of course) are absolutely fine to consume.
It's the same with the difference between processed, factory produced bread from non organic wheats are VERY different from handmade bread using organic wheats.
Seed oils are made using the same chemicals and heat process as the oil in your car. Look u the history of Crisco. It was made for military tank pistons.
@@paulkane8898 but not all of them! As I said, organic, cold pressed (which we can buy in the UK) are a very different (& healthy!) product!
Isn’t it mad that the more processed something is the cheaper it seems. When it would seem that it takes more resources and time to make it processed rather than cutting all of that out and just go from tree to package?
Yea some are. Olive oil, Cod Liver Oil , and lard haven’t been toxic to humans as we evolved eating them. Processed foods are toxic.
I am a 55 year old woman who had some joint pain. I cut out seed oils and the pain was reduced in one month and completely gone within 3 months. I have to trust my specific experience.
thanks for sharing
I had the same positives from removing them so did two of my relatives.
as soon as she said what she did about seed oils, I started yelling at my tv, who funds her ""research"
I have had the same experience. No more knee pain, neck pain, or headaches after cutting out seed oils. I can actually run for miles and play basketball again at 42.
Can’t really trust anything she says once I saw her stance on seed oils. Any time I eat seed oil my skin breaks out and I get super inflamed. I eat olive or peanut oil and don’t have any of those effects
Now Dr. Eric Berg must be the next guest to review this interview. Period!
Haha that would be amazing!! I love dr. Eric Berg's sarcasm!
Dr berg is a chiropractor that reads other people’s research
I agree that he's also shady but there's a lot of benefits from his shared knowledge. It's just that he laces the honey with poison.
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omg agreed!!
Guys! You don't uderstand? She is right, seed oils are perfectly fine and good for you! As long as you leave it on the shelf at the grocery store and don't touch it under any circumstances, everything will be fine. 😊
Cheap machine lubricant
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She's part of that food company that you invested in. Got it.
Yes Seed Oil is not bad for you just like Sugar, Tobacco and Alcohol.
Would it surprise you that most food companies were bought by the tobacco companies years ago?
@@norbucsoKraft and philip morris. Addiction to junk food genius idea if you’re not the poor rat being fed poison. You get to rake in the cash. While the lab rats have to fight off the dopamine to resist buying fries, chips, and ice cream.
She's a Shill don't listen to her!!! Steven has money invested in her BS company Don't listen to her!!
@@LekhGaming lol stop
Tabacco it self is not bad. Its just a plant. You need to burn it and inhale the smoke.
I’m still using my grass fed beef tallow.
Fuck yeah girl!
Same!!! Seed oils are terrible. Olive oils can be used but not when cooking as it transforms into a seed oils when cooking in high temps.
Yea well what else? Only right thing
@Blinkers2007GameDevOlive oil is a fruit oil, it can never be a seed oil.
She's a Shill don't listen to her!!! Steven has money invested in her BS company Don't listen to her!!
1:00:00 she talks about correlation is not causation for seed oils but then goes on to say seed oils are better than tallow because they reduce cholesterol, which is correlated with heart attacks.
Can't have it both ways.
Anyone still believing Cholesterol in food has an effect on health is a fraud.
Humans are designed to be hunter-gatherers, would naturally eat animal fats while eating meat, but would not naturally eat seed oils, except a very tiny amount when eating some seeds, and that seed oil would include natural insoluable fibre surrounding the seeds, slowing down it's digestion. A very small amount and very slowly digested.
Cholesterol does not cause heart attacks. It is there repairing damage to the cells caused by something else, most likely blood pressure since atherosclerosis happens in areas of high turbulence. See Dr Paul Mason for the truth about Cholesterol.
tallow is animal fat which is 100% wayyyyyyy more healthier than chemically cleaned "seed oils"
Yes and thanks for pointing out another instance of the non-use of logic
"I don't think the food industry is out to get us" ????
And that's about where I will stop.
I Stopped at exactly that point I would not waste my precious time to listen to this any more
Exactly where I stopped too. There were a couple of other questionable statements but that was my line
They're out to make money. Period. So she's kind of right. They should care about the impact to their fellow humans, but since greed is clearly a disease that runs the decisions of weak minds, we can't expect them to.
So frustrating being so much smarter than "doctors". She is a paid shill who has no clue wtf she's talking about
Exact same spot I noped out as well 😅 she is a shill
I am in a position as a retited ceo of a foodservice company to confide in your readers that a senior exec of a well known company producing oils and margarine products quote: " if you knew what goes into manufacturing these products you would stay away from anything with highly processed and deodorized oil products.
I worked in a margarine and vegetable oil business. I will never touch the stuff. It is a smell and sight that will never leave my brain. Not fit for human consumption
I appreciate what Steve is trying to do - neutral journalism that allows both sides to speak. Clearly the public is making up its own mind about the truth, seeing by the comments. This is how journalism should be.
I agree, but not if the counterargument is lying.
Good point, though I think it would have been best if Steven made a full disclosure at the beginning of the interview that he's an investor in ZOE, the company who employs the woman he's interviewing as their Chief Scientist.
She's a Shill don't listen to her!!! Steven has money invested in her BS company Don't listen to her!!
@@dpie But that's the world we live in - so many lies, I think we are learning it behooves everyone to read, have critical thinking and save themselves.
@@willtribe636 😲
Seed oils are "extracted" using toxic industrial oil solvents
Hexane?
@@Elusive.magickyes, but really the repeated heating which causes rampant oxidation and rancidity is the big issue. before you even cook with it. The whole process is not just flawed, it’s fraudulent. It shouldn’t be consumed/breathed in at all.
Then they have to deodorize it because if would smell what it actually smells like we would never consume it. People didn’t have chronic disease before the introduction of seed oils and high fructose corn syrup. It doesn’t take a genius to figure this one out. We’re being scammed by the food industry, our governments and big pharma. Follow the money $$$
She's a Shill don't listen to her!!! Steven has money invested in her BS company Don't listen to her!!
@ I agree. I cut them out from my kitchen in the 90’s. I had easy access to lard as an alternative.
This is like saying bread is not bad for you. Without distinguishing between a sourdough and a McDonald’s bun. McDonald’s bun full of emulsifiers and seed oils, sourdough is just flour water and salt. You can’t blanket cover bread like that and call it healthy. If you consume extra virgin olive oil cold pressed and not heated, extremely healthy, but if you consume sunflower oil not only is it heated and damaged, to extract it along with chemical treatment to deodorise it. Then further heated and damaged when cooked into a cake or other ultra processed food. This damaged oil does not fit your cells properly for energy, cholesterol raises to make it fit. Along side that it is high in omega 6 which if you consume more than a 4:1 ratio of omega 6 to 3 you will be put into a pro inflammatory state. This means sunflower oil is 40:1 so for every 40 grams you would need to eat 10 grams of omega 3 that’s about 250g (3 salmon fillets) or 5x the dose of a fish oil capsule.
@@JB-ip7vr Exactly! 💯
Great points!.. I would point out though that olive oil is not a seed oil it's made from the fruit of the olive.. the appropriate analogy for sour dough would be cold pressed sunflower oil rather than industrially produced.. but still has v high omega 6. Cheers
Flour isn’t good you, full stop. Humans aren’t designed to eat grains. Grains are very inflammatory.
Even some sourdoughs will contain soybean oil. Be careful.
I like your analogy m8!
The only redeeming aspect of this interview is the comments section. It gives me some hope to see how many people recognise the nonsense this woman is talking.
Because all the people in the comments have 20 years of food and nutrition research history. You might not agree with some of the statements but acting like a comment section is some indicator of correctness is madness.
Hey Buba
This woman is a Scientist in the field, citing a meta-analysis study of (42! ) prospective randomised studies saying that seed oil is good for us is enough for me to reintegrate it to my diet. This is evidence in it's purest form. Any discussion boards of influencers are now superflu.
@Andrea-pw4cz Ask yourself where the funding came from, and guess who owns a stake in the food industry... pharmaceutical companies. Yeah, hard disagree pal.
@Andrea-pw4czbut theres so many more qualified scientists who say different, that seed olis are terrible for humans and so many more studies to back it up, i know who i trust and it isn't this lady
q.e.d. …
Dr. Sarah Berry serves as the Chief Scientist at ZOE, a health testing and membership service that provides personalized nutrition advice. Steven Bartlett is an investor in ZOE through his investment vehicle, Flight Fund. Additionally, ZOE sponsors Bartletts podcast, The Diary of a CEO, where Dr. Berry has appeared as a guest. This indicates a business connection between Dr. Berry and Bartlett through their association with ZOE.
Is this woman a joke? Is this whole conversation? What on earth! For real good Lord just eat one ingredient foods. This is ridiculous. Super disappointing in this.
To your questions, the answer is YES to both.
She clearly has issues thinking healthy eating deprives people of happiness.
Follow the money, and all will become clear. Ask who is funding these opinions? What she's saying has been followed for decades, has it worked for us?? No.
Almost no one follows this diet. People eat mainly highly processed junk.
This woman has been paid. The head of USDA, is Kailee Buller, head of National Oilseeds Processors Association, one of the largest seed oil lobbying groups in the US. 🤦♂️🤮
@sarahwalkerbeach6985 there's a symbiotic relationship between these industries and governing bodies. They cross hire with major conflicts of interest. I scratch your back, you scratch mine.
She's talking about seeds, raw seeds, not about processed seeds or swetened seeds and granola...
You scratch my back, I scratch yours. Symbiotic cross hiring!!
When I went to the doctors about high blood pressure they told me to eat less salt and recommended the food pyramid, where you don’t eat much of red meats etc. over the next 4/5 years my blood pressure increased more.
2 yrs ago I started carnivore lifestyle, where I eat a lot of red fatty meats, eggs and more salt than I’ve ever had before. My blood pressure has reduced dramatically and I am now 7st lighter. Cholesterol all good.
When I hear people talk about the importance of fibre and not eating much saturated fat , it rings alarm bells for me.
I would recommend getting Dr Zoe Harcombe on for contrasting opinions on these topics
Congratulations! There's so much bad information out there. It's not easy to learn who or what to believe. I'm glad you figured it out.
I cut out ultraprocessed foods, seed oils, and anything with modified starches as well. I had a full metabolic panel done a year later, and my cholesterol and my blood glucose were both completely normal. Before, I had high blood pressure, I was tired all the time but I couldn't sleep, I was depressed, and I got angry at the drop of a hat.
I don't feel that way any more, and I've lost a LOT of weight!
I go through at least a dozen eggs every week and I don't know how many pounds of red meat, and I'm healthier than I've ever been. Everyone says eggs and meat are really bad for people, but they are SO WRONG!
Thank you for sharing your experience. I enjoyed reading about your success!
But you do not consider the innocent victims that were tortured and murdered for you? Mothers and children separated. If stables and slaughterhouses had glass walls, or people could hear their screaming in despair, nobody would eat animals. And be healthy.
@@ludyjansen5936 oh stop.
@@IAmPamPooveyit is so wonderful to hear about your success story.
@ Thanks for your comments. I'm not saying everyone has to follow carnivore lifestyle as different diets can work for different people, but this has changed my life.
The symptoms that are resolved when eating this way is incredible.
I'm glad you've discovered this too
The comments helped me to not waste my time listening to this interview. She said "we eating too much, yes. But ultra process food helps to give us energy". Madness! 😂😂😆😆
Ultra processed foods are high in calories. No? Aren’t calories energy?
@alexobrien1529 Calories have nothing to do with metabolism. It is just a measurement of heat/light.
Sure...cheap energy with a crash and craving cycle, low nutrient density, digestive upset and a wide range of garbage filler ingredients.
@@ZachhatesyoutubeOf course calories effect metabolism
@@Zachhatesyoutube Calories represent the unit of energy contained in food, while metabolism is the body's process of converting that food into energy. Eat too much ultra processed foods and your body will convert the excess calories into fat
- Three things that changed my life:
1. started watching health videos
2. I read the book called: Health Secrets Industry Hides
3. I stopped eating excess sugar
thanks for sharing that
i heard about it before
this is my sign to check it out
thanks for sharing
I will read it
today i am pleased with humanity reading the comments? (that is a NO to so-called seed oils)
Was it the BBC investigation that woke everyone up? He's been bad for a very long time.
I propose you to invite the great Nina Teicholz for the counterarguments.
In short, her (Sarah Berrys) argument is: before, seed oils were bad because of the way we processed them at that time, creating trans fat. Now, we create them differently. And we need to trust experts that now that process is better. I don't buy it, especially because she seems to put herself on the 'researcher high-ground', as if the idea of seed oil being bad is a social media thing (while she can't deny it was, at least in the past, true).
I trust Nina Teicholz better, who claims (in her classic 'The Big Fat Surprize') that the new processes for creating seed oil is as bad as before, but that there are too few studies they did to check whether they are healthy or not. Research is heavily sponsored by the industry, resulting in limited focus studies giving the opportunity to experts to say that if you know the hard studies, this and that is not unhealthy.
Yeah, she does have this sent of arrogance around her... smell of intellectual superiority... . quite revolting really.
@@roblemeire9441 absolutely 💯
@@roblemeire9441 🧈 🥩 we’ll stick with Nina’s food advice
ua-cam.com/video/TKXDNfimEbU/v-deo.html
Well said
Yes, well said!
🚨For deeper nuance on seed oils, please read this comment (from a PhD Scientist in Metabolism, Oxford and Harvard Medical School) - Based on the emails and direct messages I’ve received since this episode was released I think there are some matters of confusion that deserve clarification regarding “seed oils” and omega-6 and 3 fats. First, it’s important not to equate “seed oils,” which is a rather fluffy term, with omega-6 fats. Needless to say, french fry oil and a walnut are not the same. I agree with the guest on the whole that Omega-6 fear mongering is overblown. However, it’s incorrect to suggest there are no issues with respect to omega-6 or “seed oil” consumption. The discussion starting at ~1:02:00 is overly dismissive, in my opinion and rather condescending. First there are data suggesting an Omega-6/3 imbalance can directly cause inflammation & metabolic dysfunction. Such studies are actually best done in genetically modified mice since the key omega-6 and 3 are essential nutrients that can’t be synthesized by the body; thus, you need to change other components of the diet to manipulate ratios in humans. Also - and CRITICALLY - it’s practically not possible to conduct the sorts of long-term RCTs one would need to detect a clinically meaningful difference that may result as a function of changing tissue/organ ratios of omega-6/3 ratios in humans. Such trials would need to last many months or even years. Thus, with respect to what’s considered “top tier evidence” there is a deficiency of data. That’s true. However, neither it’s a matter of “absence of (long-term RCT) is not absence of evidence (or harm.” If you’d like more thoughts on seed oils, please see this video: ua-cam.com/video/0eMguvxWWf4/v-deo.html. I think anyone who takes the time to watch will agree there is more nuance in this topic than the podcast discussion reviews.
I’d be more than happy to dialogue long-form with the host or guest. I’ve had a listen to most of the episode and agree with many comments from the guest, but would also offer a different perspective on some matters, like the causative role (or lack thereof) of calories in obesity and the legitimacy of the “in moderation” approach.
It's not a fluffy term.
People defending canola oils are using it as a fluffy term so they can hide it behind cold-pressed rapeseed oil -.-
EVERYONE KNOWS, WHEN SEED OILS ARE BEING MENTIONED- THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CANOLA, VEGETABLE, SOYBEAN, SUNFLOWER, ECT.
DON'T PLAY DUMB!
I listened to a podcast from a farmer who presses his own oils…including seed oils like sunflower etc. It makes sense to me that if we were consuming freshly pressed oils that it would be worlds away from what most of us would consume getting it off a shelf in a grocery store. Absolutely they are more rancid/volatile/cause inflammation in the body. Why can’t we study this more. I feel like the very people who are supposed to be curious, are often the ones telling other people that they shouldn’t be curious and that x,y,z is established in stone.
I didn't pay attention to who the writer of this comment was.
But as I was continuing reading I was wondering: this kind of "speaking" sounds so familiar.
So I scrolled back up.
And here he is:
Nick Norwitz
That's science!
Thanks for your comment on this b*s
@ When you said, "I feel like the very people who are supposed to be curious, are often the ones telling other people that they shouldn’t be curious and that x,y,z is established in stone," I think that perfectly encapsulates the issue I felt I certain parts of this discussion. Often, scientific consensus is far less "consensus" as we are led to believe... and that's coming from someone who has spent a fair amount of time around those presenting the 'consensus'
Hi Nick, as much as I could go deeper and tried to understand the "research" on seed oils, almost all of the studies are done on lab-grade freshest possible seed oils they could get from the suppliers, not the ones regular people purchase from the stores that sit on the shelves for months or even years and not on the seed oils that sits on the counter open to air, heat and sunlight for months until it's consumed in our kitchens.
We all know that because of the chemical structure all seed oils regardless of which plant it comes is prone to very fast oxidation process no matter how you extract them (chemically or cold pressed) So it is inherent that seed oils consumed by regular consumers in their kitchens and in restaurants will be heavily oxidated when they're consumed.
Claiming that seed oils don't have any harm and using these studies done on fresh ones that they could source directly from supplier should not even be considered as an evidence. If we agree that oxidated oils are inflammatory then all seed-oils should be avoided by humans categorically. You don't need double blind, placebo controlled, randomized studies to agree on this fact.
I'm not objecting what you're saying, I'm just saying you're very political and nuanced, even when you don't need to be honestly...
Get Dr Paul Mason on this show. Australian legend and will back up all statements with fantastic research and clinical experience.
Absolutely 💯
Agree 💯 he’s awesome
That man and Dr. Anthony Chaffee changed me!!!!
At the 4:00 minute mark, Dr. Sarah places blame on the highly processed foods that people have been eating for the last thirty years for our health problems. I believe she is correct, but she fails to acknowledge that seed oils are a highly processed food. I take this as an admission that seed oils are a major part of the problem since they are an ingredient in most processed foods. This contradiction ruins her credibility for me.
If you replace saturated fats with seed oil, LDL will lower and so will cardiovascular risk. That's how seed oils are good. If you're all WFPB, which barely no one is, seed oils will probably be detrimental. I personally don't eat them because it's useless excess fat, not because of inflamation.
@@purpleblueunicornstudy evidence please? There isn’t any! Also we were all told to change from eating butter to eating margarine (grain and seed oils) and heart disease has only escalated.
@@JaneUK this doesn't indicate causality, we also started eating a ton more chicken and cheese, could be chicken too. We now know lol is causal to heart disease and butter raises it. Margarine used to have trans fat and was also causal to heart disease. Anyway, we shouldn't eat neither, it's all fat and making people obese for no nutritional value.
Haha correct. Highly processed foods are high in seed oils and non-existent of natural animal fats or even olive oil
Love that The Diary of a CEO explores a wide range of perspectives on various topics, allowing the audience to decide for themselves what to believe. It's also refreshing to see the comment section filled with thoughtful discussions-people are smarter than we sometimes give them credit for!
She's a Shill don't listen to her!!! Steven has money invested in her BS company Don't listen to her!!
She is fronting a corporate business backed by investment firms that support big aggro. She isn't telling us seed oils are good because she has a different view, she is telling us its good because it makes her rich. You are naive. Check who is funding ZOE, and dig around. Took me 15 minutes on google.
Only came here for the comments. I’d spend my afternoons watching Steven and his usually incredible guests. This is a HARD PASS for me. The only thing “leading” about Berry is that she’s leading uninformed folks down the primrose path. Come on, Steven. Seriously, mate?!
She does not even understand what a proper randomised "controlled" study is. Her description is "asking" people to use a particular oil for a month, which means they weren't in a controlled environment..
That’s because she is a lobbyist, not a scientist….. BIG difference.
@@Alecmcq Dr Sarah Berry is a Professor in the Department of Nutritional Sciences at King's College London and Chief Scientist at ZOE. She is also the lead nutritional scientist on the PREDICT program, the world’s largest in-depth nutritional research programme. She’s a professor. Lol you’re so dumb.
She said she a PhD... maybe in Gender Studies?
An RCT is where you have a control group, it’s not feeding people stuff without them knowing?
That’s a survey not a study. Surveys are terrible as they can be easily skewed by the participants.
'do not eat after 9pm'. I clicked on this as a former night shift worker. I ate 80% of my calories from 8pm till 7am in the morning. I worked night shift for almost 10 years and managed to get absolutely shredded (and started my fitness youtube channels) by controlling my calories and eating most of those calories 'after 9pm'. Don't be scared to eat late at night, calorie control is the key.
It was interesting to hear her say that processed foods are bad because of things like extra saturated fats and salt, but doesn't even mention added sugar.
Nor all the junk fillers and "conditioners"
Oh wow. If you've ever watched someone talk a bunch of bullshit on something you're knowledgeable on, how the illusion comes crashing down about some people and content creators.
Sorry, Diary of a CEO- if this is the crap you're peddling, you can do it without my views, my dude.
Dr Jason Fung was an extraordinary guest ,which could not be any clearer.Because of him I reclaimed my health and fitness back and avoided hip replacement surgery.Dr Berry does not appear to elaborate in the mechanism of absorption, glucose fluctuations etc...
This is just mind blowing. Processed food is good for us, really?
No no it's not
It’s not mindblowing it’s total boll&ks
Not sure where she said that but hey.
NO, it isn't good.
can't believe that she is described as 'lead nutritional scientist'
She's on the board for ZOE. A company Steven is hugely invested in. She's either being paid for leaning towards the bias ZOE is promoting, or she's delusional... I'm educated enough to believe it's not the latter!
Hugely disappointed in Steven promoting his investment interest in this way. There's some very dangerous, and insanely false advice given in this episode 😔
And if anyone is still thinking this isn't scripted... She just happens to mention in conversation that she's going through perimenopause and, oh look, Steven has a graph he printed out earlier... 🤦
Ya, that was too convenient
What dangerous advice is she giving? Seriously curious and want to know!
So many other reputable doctors contradict what she is saying.
I refuse to lose 2 hours of my life listening to this insai
I had perplexity bullet point it for me. I also saved 2 hours of my life. We both came to the same conclusion about the value of her "expert opinion"
Same. Read the comments first and now I'm fucking out.
But don’t want to punish doac for getting both sides of the story
She's a Shill don't listen to her!!! Steven has money invested in her BS company Don't listen to her!!
Don't agree with her on the Food industry They are putting chemicals sugar under many different names etc It is real and killing us
She seems to be putting people off consuming cholesterol but
cholesterol is necessary for cell protection and proper functioning. It is a vital component of cell membranes, helping to maintain their structure and fluidity. Cholesterol stabilizes the phospholipid bilayer of the membrane, ensuring it stays flexible yet strong enough to protect the cell.
We make our own cholesterol ie. no need to eat it. And we don't need to eat saturated fat to make it.
💯 Cholesterol is essential ! David Feldman makes more sense ua-cam.com/video/nmf1yYStKQo/v-deo.html
@@jan9562tell that to the Inuit
@@jan9562 sat fat is good for us.
I eat more eggs and my health has improved enough that I have my avatar as proof of weight loss
Blink 5 times if your being held hostage by monsanto
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Haahaha! You won the internet this week!
I am not watching any more of your podcasts until I see someone really good. Forget it.
Wow, nobody is buying this! I am glad I took the time to read some of the comments.
'Seed oils are not bad for you' is all I need to know. I won't waste my time listening.
Same 😂
You clearly won't waste your time reading the fact check provided with the ep either. She's correct.
@mcorby2145 research who she works for, who funded the research that the 'fact check' is based on. More and more cardiologists are coming to the same conclusion about fats and oils now. Industries are fighting against it but the truth is getting out. It's going to take time to undo the damage done in the 1950's. I could gjve you names but this platform deletes what doesn't suit. When you consider the utter nonsense they allow in comments sections, you know you've hit a nerve when you can't mention certain Dr's and scientists.
Same. Not even bothering with this one
Maybe if you actually did listen to the science you could learn some evidence based information
Please get Catherine Shanahan on your podcast. She is the author of Deep Nutrition. Her arguments against seed oils are based on lipid scientists research. 700+ references are at the back of her book. Or organise a panel! But sorry this person you have on right now should talk about more research to show seed oils are okay, with details. "We have done studies" is not enough. Showing that an anti-seed oil study was based on margarine is not enough.
If in doubt, I would go back to what nature makes as food and don't over eat. Glucose Goddess is a good source too.
Steven keep up the good work! Thanks for your efforts.
Absolutely. In fact her second book, 'Dark Calories', is specifically about seed oils.
I completely agree. Why wasn’t this episode fact checked like the DOAC had started doing recently? This episode should have been fact checked.
Thank you. Will check it out
I just jumped to the fiber section to see what she has to say about it.
She says "Amazing nutrient"
Well its not amazing and its not a nutrient. She knows nothing about nutrition. Enough for me
Fiber help pull heavy metals pretty useful in this manmade city we live in
Nutritional Science is basically pseudoscience at this point. The amount of contradictions and alternating opinions these ‘nutritionists’ impose on us makes me feel that science-backed diet is just a myth. We have ‘nutritionists’ pushing for high-protein diets, others promoting more fats and others promoting fruits and vegetables and unprocessed foods. Some push for low-carb and others high-carb diets. These nutritionists are an absolute joke, and should not be trusted.
Yes. I’m beginning to think Zoe is con…
I wondered about her calling a "nutrient" too.
And carbs are an essential nutrient too. 🤬🤬🤬
The real sunflower oil is of brown colour and it has very distinctive sunflower seed flavour. I grew up in the area where sunflower was grown on the 60% of agricultural land. The virgin sunflower oil is the most delicious and healthy oil that you’d ever eat. It is the processing such as bleaching that happens in the USA that makes it unhealthy not the fact that it comes from seeds!
Thank you comment section! Dodged a bullet there.
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She doesn’t know how greedy the American companies are lmao I think she needs to do another 20 years of research. Companies have been known to pay scientists to make food as palatable as possible and with little to no regard to safety of the consumer. Their goal is business NOT making healthy food, that’s why us/canada has record high health problems. We changed our diet drastically over the past century
I come from a family of doctors, I have studied nutrition and health for over a decade. There are so many contradictions by 'experts' and it's confusing and frustrating. I have come to the conclusion to do whatever works best for me...
Shes been bought and paid for.
I would love to see her debate with the Drs that have said seed oils are indeed Bad!
I live in Portugal and in many hot European countries we don't have our evening meal till 9 or 10 at night yet have a far higher life expectancy and massively less obesity rates than the UK/ USA.
you go to sleep later
it depends on our genes. of course there are genetic variables which determines our life expectancy as well. its not only about timing. but time to eat and sleep of course matters in general. we have our own biological clock and mechanism that only allows the disciplined timing to eat and sleep.
Europeans, and I think in particular your region, walk/move a lot more which is why nutrition cannot be looked at in isolation. Your physical activity is probably really helpful at keeping a good balance.
We hear everything and its contrary.
I dont listen anymore. I listen to my body réaction and I believe eat simple , healthy like 2000 years ago and you will be ok ! Olive oil , ghee and butter are my only fats. Period ! The other ones werent around so out; Humanity has survived few 1000s years without all the modernand bad foods, this is mainlevée marketing and business
Lard is good too.
@@jmillsey Yes, animal fat. I've started using goose fat since I bought a jar at Xmas. It's great to cook with.
You are 100 percent right. These nutrionists are a joke and really disgusting liars
I do not trust what this person it saying, but your argument is flawed. By that logic, electricity is bad because humanity has survived without it until roughly two centuries ago. Even fire was a new technology at some point to early homonids. It can be good to follow what "feels right", but engage in scientific discussion.
Humanity has survived without antibiotics. Listening to your body won't show your arteries getting blocked, first symptom might be death. Humanity will go on, you just need to make at least 2 kids and you can do this before even being 20 yo.
As soon as she said seed oils are good for you, I turned off. She is an idiot. I think you got suckered into inviting this guest onto your show. I think some guests need to be better vetted before they are on your show. The first person on your show with no credibility at all. She's talking gibberish
At this point I find it hard on who to believe now, some Dr.s saying this, others this.
The crypto guy sucked too, known idiot and moonboy
I think he has become an investor at ZOE
@@kristinisenberg4753 he says it openly in every other podcast
@@imp3235 just experiment for yourself. I guarantee 99% of people who exclude seed oils from their diet will feel amazing. The other 1% are delusional people or those with their own agendas.
Dr Ken Berry not Dr Sarah Berry. Animals fats not processed fats. Facts not statistics. Actual positive health outcomes proven not hypothetical...".maybe in ten years, I'll be proven wrong."
Obesity, diabetes and chronic heart disease are really issues we need to hear about, not defending nutritional scientists who got it wrong for 70 years.
Steve, this guest reiterate my conviction that my carnivore diet is the way to go. It's good to know what the so called experts are saying.
I know that seedoils lowers testostorone.
Grassfed dairy is a good source of protien.
Sleep is super important.
i pay attention to how i feel , after consuming anything. 😊
"I've done lots of research and seed oils are actually beneficial for your health."
Engage skeptical eyebrows.
2 hours and 11 minutes.
Pass.
I need to watch the whole thing still but I have a hard time believing that seed oils are okay still... The industry has purposely AVOIDED thoroughly testing lots of processed foods including cheap seed oils because they want to AVOID red flags that would take it off the market and less profit. I'll update my response if I change my mind after watching the whole thing. Im about 15 mins into it right now. Trying to keep an open mind. The mixture of garbage in processed foods also creates carcinogenic combinations that a lot of people dont even account for. Vitamin companies actually have to be super careful about the mixtures of vitamins that they create because of how easy it is for certain vitamin combinations WILL give humans cancer (proven stuff). Meanwhile none of us citizens know what combinations are carcinogenic because nothing stops us from going out and buying bad combinations of separate vitamins and foods and not knowing it, and then taking-in a potentially carcinogenic combination. Insane! I'll be making a UA-cam video on this soon.
Agree! Dr Knobbe has researched this ua-cam.com/video/swiYnN1p46g/v-deo.html&pp=ygUYS25vYmJlIGZhbWlseSBoZWFsdGggbGFi
@@FamilyHealthLabThank you for sharing, friend! There's also a video made by a science nerd on UA-cam, where he literally simply cooks seed oils to normal cooking temperatures and adds a basic catalyst like sugar or fat to it, and you see clearly see that the seed oils form a carcinogenic plastic-like substance and burn and give off the smell of toxic chemicals. Therefore, I dont buy that seed oils are remotely safe to use for cooking, at the very least.
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@ looks like this prof Berry may have some links to industry “Prof Berry runs courses on healthy fats for the British Nutrition Foundation. Yay, I thought- I love an online course and the British Nutrition Foundation sounds like an awesome foundation…
except that it is a lobby group funded by the processed food industry.” Source Real Life Medicine group
@@enigmarocker I am really curious about this video, if you can find the link - would you like to share?
Many people including myself have better health from not consuming processsed food and seed oils etc. We do our own research and therefore are more informed and sceptical about the information available regarding our health. You should have a guest who could actually challenge this particular scientist in her views and speculations. Thanks
Wow! My favourite interview so far. I find this lady inspiring, easy to understand, and such a warm communicator. Congratulations Professor, you deserve every bit of this achievement. Keep up the fantastic work you do. You are a diamond.😊
She lost me at "the food industry wants to make your food healthier..."
Big Food is certainly making "donations" to her research.
literally this line made me stop listening...
These types of interviews undermine your credibility.
What?!
Stephen has little credibility anymore. He's gone the way of most popular podcasters. They sell their souls to maintain position on the premiership ladder.
Food industry is there to make more and more profit each year for their shareholders. This is simply incompatible with them making food that is good for our health.
“We process it to make it edible “
If you have to process it to make it edible then it shouldn’t be eaten.
Are you on a raw diet then?
I like to sear my steaks, but the inside is basically raw usually. But the point wasn’t to say you should never cook or process food in any way, just to demonstrate that food we are meant to eat can be eaten as is. We can bite into a cow and eat the flesh as is, no problem.
Think of it this way. It takes approximately 600 sunflower seeds to make 1 tablespoon of sunflower oil. It takes about 2000 canola seeds to do the same. If the average American consumes 3 tablespoons of these oils a day, that's 1,800 sunflower seeds. Id love to hear her justify that.
Regards the seed oil debate the thing is to ask what happens when you heat any natural seed or nut to a high temperature? The answer is obvious; it denatures, ie goes from being something healthy to something unhealthy. The higher the temperature the worse the health outcome. Not to mention all the additional processing, bleaching etc that goes on. To really understand this process listen to Udo Erasmus who has done so much good work to unravel this one. His legendary book fats that heal fats that kill is the only one you need to read to fully understand this subject.
I agree with most of the commentaries (especially about the food industry helping us). Still, at 25:55, it simply explains the difference between eating fruit and drinking it (as a smoothie), or eating peanuts vs peanut butter (grounded to a paste w/o additives) and I find it helpful. I understood well how physical processing affects our calorie intake. Solely this knowledge is worth watching. We can learn from everybody, and everything the key is not losing our critical approach, and not believing everything we see.
I agree, even Steven mentions how he takes things that line up between the professionals he speaks with and sees how those things may help him and finds what’s best for him based on it. There are pieces we can still learn from her. There was another professional who mentioned that through the years our jaw strength has lessened. Our jaw bones are smaller then our ancestors because we eat more processed foods and have to chew less. There is a lot we can gain by eating food more as a whole rather then broken down.
Get Dr. Eric Berg on your show!
Great suggestion id love that
Yes. That would be great.
never will he do it, Steven's product 'Huel', contains seed oils
Dr Chris Knobbe.
Comment section did not fail. Saved me the time.
This is absurd. The only possitive thing i got out of this was, chew your food. But thats common sense. The food industry isnt out to help the consumer. Seed oils are horrible.
Mic drop situation with this woman! "Who pays for her research, is what I would like to know.?" I switched off after she said, " Seed oils are good for you." I had become a little disinterested at food industries not harming us😮. But continued listening. it was all defo nutri bollocks! As she would say!!
In July 2024, ZOE secured a $15 million investment from Coefficient Capital, a US-based consumer-focused venture capital firm[1][2]. This funding was an extension of ZOE's Series B round, bringing the company's total investment to $118 million[2][5]. Coefficient Capital, which has previously backed companies like Oatly and Just Spices, led this funding round to support ZOE's expansion plans in the United States[2][6].
Weird. How do you explain all the people that feel better after removing these substances? Not only feeling better, but having improved blood work. I feel like someone has a Big Food/Pharma check in their pocket.
Yes... As of 1000 of above comments.. I have cut out seed oils and ultra high processed foods and have seen the great health benefits.... I dont no where this health expert has her information/studies from.... Also the point about big foods not being in it for the money.... Was that a joke? Go and watch the podcast with the great grand-daughter of "kellogs". She has told the truth about breakfast cereal. The only one of your podcasts i have disagreed strongly about so far.
"I dont no where this health expert has her information/studies from" Take 30s and google seed oils and inflammation meta analysis. Ask chat gpt. They'll all link to real science, no pseudo science chiropractors doctors.
Seriously? You have Chief Scientist at ZOE talking about a very controversial topic, when ZOE is one of your top sponsors... Talk about conflict of interest. Im sure there's a logical explanation as to why this was, but just the optics make shows like this lose a lot of credibility if not mentioned beforehand.
In July 2024, ZOE secured a $15 million investment from Coefficient Capital, a US-based consumer-focused venture capital firm[1][2]. This funding was an extension of ZOE's Series B round, bringing the company's total investment to $118 million[2][5]. Coefficient Capital, which has previously backed companies like Oatly and Just Spices, led this funding round to support ZOE's expansion plans in the United States[2][6].
It would help if all if the mentioned research studies was linked. I'd love to see for myself 😜
Steven, I’m claiming your deal. I subscribed (long ago) now please listen to who I need you to interview. Her name is Sue Becker. She is a food scientist and she has dedicated her life to teaching people why it is ESSENTIAL to use freshly milled flour in bread and other baked goods. When I first learned how the mass production of flour changed the way humans have eaten for thousands of years I actually felt violated. I felt like someone assaulted me. It is not the gluten, it is the flour. It is not the carbs, it is the flour. 150 years ago everyone knew flour needed to be used immediately. Look up two documentaries, one is called Flour Power and the other The History and Origin of Flour, both are on UA-cam.
As Dr. Phil would say - “and how’s that working for ya?”. It’s doesn’t take an expert to know that eating seed oils isn’t working for us.
The problem is all the studies that look at seed oils isolate the seed oil and therefore it is likely to be a cold pressed undamaged one that won’t cause inflammation to make it look like it is safe for food companies to put into ultra processed food. I bet she has not seen the studies showing the rate of heart attacks vs the introduction of seed oils. It is clear what’s going on. 50 years ago people were not obese and they cooked their food with butter and lard. Saturated fat on its own does not cause inflammation I lost over 70lbs eating it everyday and inflammation markers, blood pressure lowered and asthma remission. But before I was consuming seed oils everyday in my ultra processed foods and cooking with it.
@@JB-ip7vr it's heartbreaking so many people don't realise this. Wish they would attempt it even for a month or twom
No, studies on seed oils use standard non organic seed oils don't show higher inflammation. Just google meta analysis seed oils and inflammation or ask chat gpt. Nutrition made simple has many videos about this and he's a researcher without financing and bias. He's just looking at whatever science papers are available.
Where's the "Diary of a CEO is independently fact checked" disclaimer for this video? XD
About 6:37 :)
There's a link in the description!
I stopped using veg oil for cooking jan 2024, been using butter, beef dripping and duck fat, ate more red meat and I've never felt better. Thinking of trying full carnivore.
In the pat year I've had a few indian takeaways, these are made with veg oil, for days after it makes me feel so bad.
This woman is not helping people.
You ought to ask them if they can cook it with ghee.
I won’t touch seed oils. Since stopping it’s reduced my inflammation in my body. I feel so much better. Have a look at how these oils are processed.
Why were you ever using them? Who actually buys these oils?
No study shows seed oils cause inflammation, if it were true we'd have at least some studies showing it. Eating a highly processed diet will cause inflammation and seed oils is often added in the bunch. I don't eat oils because it's useless calories, not because of inflamation, that's ridiculous.
Everything packaged or from restaurants is loaded with them. Breads, chips, soups, pastries, donuts, margarine, salad dressings, sauces, fried and sautéed foods, ie French fries, onion rings, breaded zuchini, even pan pizza, etc, etc..
She is sponsored/paid by seed oil producers so of course she's going to say it's good. I can guarantee you she stays far away from seed oils.
Yes, she looks too healthy for that.
This is what I find so frustrating. You can find someone to support or denounce pretty much anything so you are left not knowing anything for sure. Dr. Oz was big on sharing all the contradictory information on his show and what was the result? I don’t think people take him seriously anymore.
Dr Oz is compromised in my opinion.
@ yep
The analytics for this video would be interesting to see. The thumb nail for many people would be offputtibg. I would love to see Dr. Ken D.Berry rebuke THIS Dr. Berry. Or Dr. Sean Baker. She's been paid off!
Bart Kay would shred her
Dr Eric Berg will do the same. She's a clown
Seed oils are industrial lubricants fit only for mechanical machines.
I am particularly concerned with the strong association between seed oils and age-related macular degeneration which causes progressive blindness in hundreds of millions of people around the world. This disease was unknown at the beginning of the 20th century and tracks with the increase in seed oil consumption. Crucially, in populations which still eat an ancestral diet without seed oils, this disease is extremely rare. My mother and grandfather had this condition and I do not want to be next.
I am assuming that you are familiar with Dr Chris Knobbe's work? He would be a good guest for Steven to interview.
@@supersonicsenses I am indeed. He would be an excellent guest.
@@supersonicsenses And he's an Ophthalmologist.
At 01:54:20 into the podcast, the guest shares a simple, practical tip. She talks about a supplement with a special ingredient that can help reduce the negative effects of menopause on the body. I think this is super important, and *I want to thank the guest for the advice*
Dr. Berry is an intelligent con! She mixes some of the latest aspects of life-saving lifestyle changes with old-fashioned beliefs that were contributing to my personal ill health and congestive heart failure. Most of us know better than her what's best for us because we have no choice but to find our own individual balance. Advocating for the wine and eating when the family eats, over abstaining from alcohol and intermittent fasting indirectly sends the message: Don't make lifestyle changes. And then she turns around and says, "how are you going to keep the weight off." Unbelievable! She conspicuously avoided the benefit of autophagy with intermittent fasting, something that does not occur with simple caloric restriction. Dr. Berry knows that she has nothing to contribute going forward, so she invites controversy by going backwards.
Wow, wow , WOW!! I’m in tears. What an inspiring conversation on so many levels! Thank you for emphasising the importance of pleasure!! “If a healthy food is too healthy for you to enjoy, it’s not healthy at all”. I believe that too! I’m a big believer in dolce far niente and I wouldn’t sacrifice all pleasure for health benefits. I eat healthy, I exercise, I practice yoga, I travel, I do what I love most (writing), I raise 2 incredible daughters and have quality friendships. This is all part of my “diet”! In other words, joy! How refreshing to hear a nutrition scientist talk about this and emphasise its importance. I cried at the end and wanted to give her a huge hug! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! What a beautiful person.
It's the only true thing she said in the whole farce of an interview.
She is full of shit..she is a talker and been placed out there by the food Industry.She fact that she said she doest want to believe what your other guests have said and she keep play the victim card by saying "I'm a Scientist, no one wants to listen to us"tells me she has been paid off by the Food industry. She's not looking at the other Chemical processes that are used in extracting seed oil which make seed oil bad for us. She never once brought that up. One thing I come to know about scientists is they don't like to be wrong or proven wrong and she knows she's wrong. She need to dig deeper into a biology.
”We don’t get a voice, we”re not being heard” was it? Well, I believe it’s because you shouldn’t.
People who have tried different diets and actually had the disciplin and character to change their lifestyle can testify (as seen in the comments) wether seed oils, sugar, processed and highly processed carbs make their life better or worse. Glucose spikes and intermittent fasting and lots of other things too.
Yes, you should choose a variety of foods that you enjoy to have the most beneficial effects, and peace and harmony and the company of your loved ones at the dinner table also has great positive impact on your digestion, but as long as you crave sugar, it’s your bacteria and brain you’re feeding, and it’s not good for you.
While there are a few crumbs of sensibility one can find if looking in this podcast interview, a lots of rubbish comes out of her mouth…unfortunately. She’s opposing things she doesn’t understand, haven’t experienced and is no expert on. She doesn’t explain why she attacks stuff either…It destroys her credibility in my eyes.
It is surprising how many people insist on ignorance. Science is there to corroborate knowledge and help guide us into new knowledge. The order we eat, the structure of the food we eat, impact how or body responds. Stop complaining and start listening so you GROW as a human being. Very interesting show. Thanks!
Wow, thank you! One sane comment here! 😅
Not growing on this, sorry.
I’m sure you’re not advocating that people “just believe what you’re told”.
@@davidr1431There is a video on UA-cam from a researcher who puts up dozens of meta-analyses of clinical trials on seed oils. Watch it please! (Channel: Nutrition Made Simple)
To the people saying “cold pressed organic seed oils are fine” I just want to remind you that the issue is this; loads of seed oils are added to our food, and these seed oils aren’t being processed in the organic cold pressed fashion.
Most ingredient lists (even something like cereal) have seed oils in them. That is not good to consume.
@@YM-qb6gh Cold pressed organic comes from genetically modified crops. So it’s also not good.
@@ApexCypher_good to know!
Studies done on non organic non cold pressed standard seed oils don't show higher inflammation. Just google meta analysis seed oils and inflammation or ask chat gpt.
@ Who paid for the study? Also they failed to mention the toxic chemicals used to extract the oil and what happens when it’s heated in extraction and heated in cooking.
These studies have been debunked many times.
Search UA-cam for “Why is vegetable oil in everything”.
No way :( I think a lot of us who watch The Diary Of A CEO episodes trust the guests that are interviewed because by now we seem to trust The Diary Of A Ceo. But not this. We come here for information that adds value to our lives. It's so disappointing to see this interview. Most of the comments here show we have moved passed this mindset of the Dr being interviewed and we aren't falling for this way of thinking any longer. Amongst previous guests there are a lot of common opinions/themes, with the majority moving and evolving in the same direction. Maybe this interview has been done to show neutrality. It doesn't add up. But we come here for the truth and to get informed. Neutrality is not needed if it is harmful. We are familar with the topic in this video, so many of us won't fall for this. But what about the video topics we aren't familiar with. What do we believe going forward. This undoes some of the great work of The Diary Of A CEO. At least temporarily. It's off putting.
It's unfortunate because most of what she said made sense, though it wasn't anything new like she pretended. Sleep in sync with sun, don't eat late, eat natural food with fiber... The seed oils, junk food for "pleasure" and her saying she's gonna clear out that array of bad food examples fell flat. I think she tried to be relatable, but failed.
She is just a mouthpiece for commercial food processors,,,, Would like to know her kick-back from the "Food Industry"
From reading the comments, it's scary how people take each guest scientist's advice as gospel. They have each done specialist research in different fields and give recommendations through their lens. As a scientist myself, I understand how research can sometimes oppose another's research... ultimately, you as a consumer of all the info, need to find an equilibrium point for what you want to follow. The guest scientists are also humans - who have experienced life differently, and so their research is communicated through their lens as individuals. Personally, I loved this episode because for one of the first times, a guest has said that strict diets are not sustainable, especially through certain difficult periods in life. If a ketogenic diet works for you.... great! Maybe for me, it doesn't work. Maybe intermittent fasting does not work well with my IBS. We all have very different variables to consider. We don't need to villify any scientist individual or rage against the food industry. Just take all the info in and use what suits your individual needs!
@@samanthanaidoo2656 I disagree. We should rage against the utterly corrupt “food” industry and it’s paid shills 💯 x 💯
A strict carnivore diet will heal your IBS within two months.
I guarantee it
She is clearly in the pay of the food industry and this was not declared. That it what people are raging against.
@@peterpan6821 He is an investor in ZOE.
She's conveniently avoided talking about these oils becoming oxidised at high temperatures during their processing and that hexane (or cyclohexane?) is used to help process them.
Why?
Kindly address these concerns from the opposition or it undermines your credibility, as you seem to be cherry-picking arguments to debunk.
When she look in the mirror is she proud of herself? I just wonder..
This ,,specialists" make us sick..for decades..shame on her for the lies she says.
@@marianapopescu753 exactly!!! She had definitely sold her soul for $ and stands on the dark side…
Glad to see so many critical comments. Yeah, okay, sure- a heavily industrially processed ingredient is good for us *rolls eyes*
January 30th, 2025. This video has 6.8K likes and 12K dislikes (287K views). Wow. There is hope for Mankind.