I am the guy that calls Ruger and implores them to chamber the 336 in 35 Remington again. The quintessential Adirondack/ NorthEast whitetail and black bear cartridge. Also, Remington loaded the 35 Remington with a 150gr CoreLokt bullet. I haven’t seen them do a run in a while but I have a few boxes stored away in the gun safe. Winchester just did a run of 35 Rem in their PowerPoint line.
With over a million 35Rem rifles out there that still need ammo, any company that would say "I won't make that cartridge so they will be forced to buy my new stuff" is asking for trouble. Most in the 2A community can be very stubborn, and do not forget transgressions for a very loooong time.
Same, I got my grandfather’s 141 pump in .35 Rem, took a beautiful 9 point Buck with it a couple weeks ago. Ran 10-15 yards and hit the ground dead, could’ve followed the blood trail through a tsunami. The scope is very faded out, so a new Leupold 1.5-5 is going on there before next year, but I now have a new favorite for when I’m in the woods and 100 yard shots are top end. Although my new to me 336 in .35 did well this year too. Two great weapons, awesome cartridge.
I just worked out a safe load for my old Marlin 336 in 35 remington. 200 gr. FTX, Leverevolution powder. Pushing 1930 fps at muzzle. 1.05 in groups average. 9 inch low at 200 yards. I'm satisfied with that.
@@PassivePortfolios Not neccesarily!! This kind of proves the point that the .30-30 *WILL ALWAYS* be “the versatile king,” as it runs phenomenally on all different grain loads, etc. , as it did for over a century. The .35 is awesome too, but def more obsolete for quite a few reasons. So many diff calibers and cartridges out there, that it would drive somebody nuts to have to buy ever spec ever made, in every caliber!! Lol However, seeing how much of an absolute “close range, heavy hitter,” that the .45-70 has become, almost like a brick wall smacking a charging or nearby bear and other “big-game” in that class, I can picture the .35 being another underated and devastatingly-deadly bear cartridge. Def packs a bit more punch than a .30-30, the .45-70’s younger brother. Lol
@@PassivePortfolios That’s a shame, I have used the 35 REM in the woods for decades and it has never let me down. I also use a lever 44 Mag and it also works very well and I took my first whitetail with my Redhawk 44 mag revolver last year at about 25 yards. No need for 3000fps in the woods, just need a big bullet that penetrates deep in my opinion. I still consider getting a 45-70 but at my age what I have works every year and I’m just beginning to need a scope due to my tired old eyes.
@@charlesshoemaker3622 You should consider switching to 150 grain 30-30 because it kicks less than the 35 Rem. I have used it for many years on just about everything and it works just fine. My Marlin 30-30 (from K-Mart) has a 2x7 scope. It's a good woods rifle.
I'm 54 now, but got a Rem model 760 in .35 when I was 13. I now have several other more Hi tech deer guns ( .243, 30 06, 300 win mag, and others). if I don't get a buck with a bow here in PA, that trusty .35 is what goes out with me on opening day of rifle season. Within 100 yards it is an awesome deer gun / caliber. I do load my own ammo, but it is pretty close to factory......... This new cartridge has got my attention. I have used my 350 legend on a doe (won that gun) and wasn't that impressed to be honest. I'm thinking this could be the straight wall cartridge I may try sometime if I go hunt with some Ohio friends again
I love that your videos are a bit longer than most on similar subject matter. It really allows for further explanation and detail. Thank you for this great video and an entire catalog of wonderful education!
The trouble with ‘special’ new cartridges is that it can be tough to find these calibers in various geographical locations where you’d like to hunt. Sure you can pack enough for your hunt but what if your luggage is lost or delayed? All my life I’ve stuck with the ‘old’ cartridges such as 30-30, 30-06, 300 Win Mag and 375 H&H mag etc. I’ve avoided all ‘new’ exotic cartridges and can expect to find the old timers from Buenos Aires to Harare. Your mileage may vary.
the marlin 336 in 35 rem was sold in every Walmart, gun shop for $350. bucks for many years. they were the cheapest deer hunting center fire rifle you could buy. then marlin was bought by Remington, and then Remington went bankrupt. so now we have Ruger marlins and Henry lever rifles but they cost around $1000. or more. now a lever rifle is very expensive and is not the first rifle choice like it was, many new hunters buy a cheap Ruger, or cva, etc in a more modern cartage for their first rifle. marketing, and poor managed rifle manufactures killed the lever guns off.. Remington is starving off 35 rem rifle owners with low ammo or none at all, while pushing the new buckhammer gimmick. I have 2 rem 35 marlins that i handload for getting right at 2400 fps,
Still sell em or wouldn't be in business n making them. I do agree about straving off certain cartridges n not just in ammo but rifles. I saw the 1st Ruger American Go Wild in 06 yesterday. Tried n couldn't find nor order 1 3 n 4yrs ago All kinds of them in Hypemoor n other new cartridges. at time n since. Unfortunately had to leave it with them.
Remington seems to have a habit of mire or less abandoning cartridges in recent years. Including stuff they brought to the market (I am looking at you, 30 Rem AR). Their mismanagement, sale, and additional mismanagement has something to do with it. The bean counters will say they have to focus on the ammo that sells well. But if you never put other stuff out there, you won't know how it sells. People will buy it. Do like Win does and do 1 or 2 runs per year of the lower volume stuff, then keep it on hand. Only takes a day or 2. Of course it will cost more, due to economies of scale and other factors, but people will buy it. 35 Rem and 35 Whelen both come to mind, but how about 8x57, 7x57, 6.55x55, 260 Rem, etc. In handguns, 32 Long, 41 Mag, etc. Many people still shoot the old standards, and are not interested in new geegaws and gimcracks. Rem saw a market for a straight wall cartridge, and they filled the need. How about doing that with stuff u already have the tooling to make? The only "modern" cartridge which somewhat interests me is the 6.5 PRC, and mainly because i always liked the 6.5x55. Thankfully, Tikka still chambers the Swede. Btw, the Traditions Outfitter single shot was available in 35 Rem previously. Not sure if they still chamber it. It seems to have disappeared from the SW website in recent months. If you need help testing with iron sights Ron, let me know. I have always wanted to make a pilgrimage to ID...... 😁
I bought my first Marlin 336CS 30-30 in 1988 at Kmart for $199 brand new , back then they were a value priced first time dear rifle , so was the Winchester mod.94 in 30-30 ,and ammo was less than $10 a box, bought my second Marlin 336 ,a 1953 waffle top in .35 Remington about 10 years ago from a local newspaper ad for $400 , my advice is to shop used and forget the new $1000 plus priced Ruger/Marlin rebranded rifles , still alot of great used rifles on the market these days.
I bought a Marlin 336 Sport Carbine Deluxe ( half mag., raised comb , and factory checkered , made in 1957 ) in .35 Remington back in 1973 ,after 51 years of shooting and hunting with it I burnt out the barrel and sold the gun , and I miss it , I now have a Marlin 336 ( made in 1974 ) in 30-30 , good deer rifle but wish I had my old rifle back !
360 Buckhammer gives hunters in straightwall cartridge states another viable option with a little more zip for catching deer at normal ethical distances.
No trajectory advantage over the 170-180 grain 350 Legend but it has a little more power due to the heavier bullet. Doubtful if the deer will know the difference between the two rounds. But there is a big difference in price between Henry and Marlin rifles in 360 BH and Savage, Mossberg, and Ruger bolt action rifles in 350 Legend. Also the 350 Legend ammo is cheaper and more widely available.
@@PassivePortfolios it can go heavier in bullet weight than the Legend because it uses .358 rifle bullets not pistol and that's definitely an advantage for larger game than whitetail.
200 gr corelock 35 Rem is deadly on whitetail. I attribute it to the fact that it is only loaded in 35 Rem and designed for 35 rem velocity. Unlike most bullets that have to perform at varying velocity levels.
@@kearneydillon4803 Funny! I was given mine 37 years ago when... I ... was 13! LOL... Dad gave it to me, my first rifle and it has been in, out of, around and through the eastern N.C. swamps chasing black bear behind dogs like it was going out of style! That hunky slug is absolutely CATESTROPHIC on whatever it touches and in a 336, it just becomes part of you! I'll take mine to the grave!
One of my favorite cartridges is the 350 rem mag. It is a KNOCKDOWN gun. Hard to find. Over half my brass is cut down 300 win mags and 7 mils. The 35 cal is AWESOME.
I bought my 35 rem brand new in 2011 cuz Indiana allowing 35 cal rifles for deer season and case shape doesn't matter only length people were cutting 358win to make 358hoosier. 35rem just needed a slight trim to leagle
There are also a limited number of single-shot rifles chambered in 35 Remington. More to the point, there's a TON of 35 Remington rifles already sitting in gun safes around the country, so there should still be factory runs of ammunition being made. The bad thing about the 35 Remington is it has a unique head size, meaning you can't easily make it from any other cartridge. (I have made some from 303 British, but it ain't "easy"!) The 360 Buckhammer has the advantage of being made using the same basic brass as the 30/30, and it could be formed from such fairly easily in the future, if it comes to that. I still have a lot of love for the 35 Remington, just like I do the 6.5 Grendel - cuz sometimes enough cartridge is just perfect! It's worth noting that you can push 35 Remington cases to higher pressures in modern actions, like the 336 (See Ken Waters' loads). Also, the 35-30/30 was one of the very first wildcat cartridges based on a smokeless parent case. Guys would take shot-out 30/30 rifles, have them bored out to shoot 35 caliber bullets, and viola! So, this cartridge really isn't new...it's at least 100 years old, the only difference is it's been shortened and tapered such that it's kinda-sorta straight-walled.
I was able to convert 308 into 35 Remington to function and cycle in my 336. You are correct it’s not the easiest thing to accomplish BUT. If you really want to shoot your grandfathers deer rifle it can be done. While I’m at it i think you could appreciate what i found on FB market place. What’s the chances a guy is searching on FB market place looking for anything reloading. Comes across a post explaining they have some old casting gear molds and lead. I go to check it out and the gentleman says “oh idk if you would be interested in these 3 box’s of ammo I have” I respond “yeah let me see what you have” and what he pulls out is 3 new old stock box’s of 35 Remington 200gr core lokt. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I had been looking for that ammo for a solid 3 years. And to my surprise a fluke of happenstance I lucked out on that deal. What’s the odds
I started hunting in the 1980’s in NewYorks Catskill mountains and red plaid wool was still what everyone wore. The Marlin 35 was THE RIFLE to have at that time. I took my first doe with my .35 and still hunt with it today. Although I have a larger collection today to choose from I often grab my 35. With an old 4x redfield scope with the TV shaped scope it will shoot 1moa with 200 grain Hornady Lever Evolution at 100 yards. Remington core lock will shoot 2 to 2.5 moa.
15:36 i had the same problem with the original sights on my henry 3030, it was hard to see through.. i switched them out wit HiViz sights. Its way better then the factory.. maybe be better with the Rear Hi Viz and the Stock front sight
Wow! .35 Remington. Brings back some awesome memories! High School friend of mine had a Rifle chambered in this cartridge. Mark Dahmas...Class of '90....was 28 years ago he passed on. Seems like just yesterday! I was just reminiscing with a few friends about his "Granddaddies gun", when we last got together at Montlake Skeet Center, Soddy Daisy-Mowbray Mountain...Chattanooga,Tn area. He couldnt shoot that rifle if his life depended on it....J Benton and myself had no issues...we hit every thing we shot at with that .35 Remington. That was the last time the boys were all together '92. We all got married, grew apart, lived separate lives....'96 was a year full of BS. Wish I could go back, we took those days for granted, you know? Eh, he lives on in our laughter...awesome times man! Thanks for the memories Ron!
What I think makes the 360 stand out over the 35 rem, the 30-30, the 350 and 400 is if you look at the reloading data there is quite a bit of room for increased speeds. Enough that I believe it bumps it up to a different class. Interesting cartridge.
There’s plenty of Hornady and Federal 35 Rem available online and Federal even has two offerings: Poweshok 200g or 220g FN in Federal Premium’s Hammer Down line for lever actions. I also bought a couple boxes of Winchester last year to try.
I think the 360 BH is a great option for "restricted" areas IF you want to limit yourself to a lever gun. Otherwise I think the 350 Legend or the newer 400 Legend would be great as they run in the AR platform. I have shot hogs here in Texas for the past few years with 350 Legend in AR rifles and pistols I have built and the 350 Legend does a good job. Would be neat if Henry, Marlin (Ruger) or Winchester would come out with a lever gun in 350 Legend.
My 35 Remington (Marlin 336) is nowhere near dead or obsolete. Factory 200 RN ammo started getting difficult to find a few years ago. New factory brass shows up on occasion which I sack up. What really keeps it alive for me besides reloading 200 gr RN is reloading "Plinking rounds" with the 357 mag 158 lead hard cast SWC. Ghost ring sighted rifle great for short range target, kid training rifle, just plain fun and pests around the farm.
@@FranzAntonMesmerit's not even close to the 38-55 case one is rimmed and the other is rimless also the 35 Remington is a bottle necked cartridge and the old 38-55 Winchester is a straight wall cartridge
I've got All three actually 35 rem,375win, and 38-55 win as well as the 44 mag 45_70,444 and 450 Marlin 😂😂😂 got 30-30,32 SPL and 25-35 also@@m1a1abrams93
Most of the states with the straight wall rife cartridge came from them upgrading shotgun only areas. My father in law had a 740 and 760 Remington in 35 Remington
Winchester made a Model 70 with a 20" barrel in .35 Remington, once upon a time. I myself constructed a bolt action based on a 1894 Brazilian small ring Mauser, with a 24" barrel. Loads using the no longer available Hornady 180gr SSP bullet were worked up. This was done for my sister's then second husband(don't ask), as he had a Marlin 336C that for some reason "he" just couldn't manage to shoot very well. That worked well for him for many years....
The 360 Buckhammer interests me. Only because I would like to go deer hunting in Illinois with my grandsons. Illinois just started allowing rifle hunting for whitetails. They are a straight wall state. Not only straight wall. But single shot rifles as well. I wonder if I could get a barrel adapter for my single shot 12 gauge. I know I can for the .35 Remington. I love the .35 Remington, I saw some recipes for loading the Hornady 140 grain 357 magnum leverevolution bullets in the Remington. I don't reload any more. I don't think I have enough guts to try that. Even if I was still reloading.
I seen Rem Corelokt on the shelves for 35 Rem & Federal is making 300 Savage. Not exactly as cheap as rolling your own, but they are making a little here & there.
@@AlanKarns I wish we had a Scheels close by. Try finding some 375 for 375 Win. I'm still looking. I did get some Hammer bullets to try one of these days. I have some seconds from Midway for my 35 Rem. If the Hammers work well in the 375, I will get some in for the 35 Rem.
I love those leaver action rifles Ron i had some that break in half 300 win mag i sold during pandemic for good money went to hunters for hunting i would guess they come in 308 and 243 and and 45 and 3030 and 45/70 3.5 Creed and so on love them all. They hold their value thats for sure specially the stainless steel once. These classic hunting rifles that will never go out of style ever they are always beloved and worth to own a piece of history thats for sure.
I remember this same sort of conversation and comparison back in the 1980s regarding 30-30, .35rem, .356win, and .375win. The key to all of these was keeping the velocities up, getting good reliable terminal effect, and not letting trajectories fall off. Best ways/means to do so was averaging 40-75 yard shots and efforts to keep under 150yds. Still have my .375win BigBore XTR. Peep-sight and very accurate. .356win is along same balistics as .360 BuckHammer. I would only see BuckHammer for those requiring adhearance to straight-wall cartridge state rules. Traditionally .35rem and especially if/when seeking good old school used guns.
I still use a 35 Remington but I called Remington a few months back and they said that they was gonna continue to make the 35 but i haven't been able to find it anywhere but online since covid. I also watched a release video from Remington and they said to not worry but the 35 wasn't going anywhere but I don't know how I feel about it since I cant find it anymore in stores.
Absolutely love my 336 in 35 Rem. Hard to find ammo so i began reloading for it. I put a cheap, 4X scope on it and it shoots 1.5" at 100 yds. That is more than accurate enough for me since i only hunt in the woods with it. (If you can see beyond 100 yards, you are not in the woods). Never let me down, ever! My boys used to make fun of it (and me) saying it was so behind the times. Now they ask to borrow it.
being you reload I guess there isn't a need to reply. they must do a run now and then. i picked up a box of federal and a box of hornady levalution or whatever a couple days ago. so they still do a production run once in a while. also the internet has them available. the 35 didnt sell well in the midwest, everyone has a 30-30 or 30.06. I think the sold well in the eastern states.
I watched this podcast and was reminded of the scene in “Tombstone” when Doc Holliday says , “He reminds me of me.” I m referring to your complaints about your aging eyes and difficulty using iron sights. I sound just like you, but a Williams Foolproof aperture sight on my .35 Remington still lets me shoot to the practical range of the cartridge.
The .35 remington also worked well in the semiauto remington model 8 autoloader. The only thing really hurting the .35 remington is that it is hard to find ammo for it and the straight wall cartridges have a legal niche that allows them to be used in more places where bottle rounds are outlawed.
Nice video As always Ron. I wonder if you took the ladder right out of the rear sight if that would lower your shots enough for you. It doesn't take much to make a difference on impact. A taller front sight on a ramp may do the trick as well . Of course the options you mentioned would also be fine.
Get a Marbles peep sight that replaces your current rear sight. From the side doesn’t look different but that peep shows up real well , I would also replace that front sight with a Marbles gold bead one. That combo works great for old eyes!
Though not ideal my Dad decided to take the shot on his running deer in the southern sierra Nevada's in 1994, got his buck. It was at 300 yards and about to go over the ridge. He said he aimed for the lungs but ended up being a bit low and got it right through the heart. Remington Model seven with 7mm-08 hand loads Leupold 2-7x scope. Very nice combo. Weighs in at 6 pounds couple ounces. Had a Kevlar composite stock it was bedded into. He really liked that gun. He had taped a piece of string to the end of the barrel to see which way the wind was blowing and used a practiced hold over. He told me you just have to practice a lot. Said it was like throwing a football, if you practice enough it becomes in gain how far and how to aim. I don't think he took shots past about 300-400 yards though. 500 yards was considered far back then before range finders were common. People could do it but most didn't think it was ethical to attempt it on live game. P.S. He loved lever actions! I have an antler handle knife. It's neat but not as nice as the one you are showing here.
The 360 Buckhammer is awesome for straight walled cartidge states. I always wanted a 35 Remington but never had a use for it due to living in Ohio. Went from a slug gun to an inline ML in 1998, Then a 45/70 when they finally allowed straight walled cartridges in 2018. The 350 Legend came along and is now king in my area but I did not buy one because of the ammopocalypse. If the manufacturers want me to buy a new gun these days they have to do better at making ammo WAY cheaper and available. Otherwise I will pass it up. But if your in the market for a lever gun for hunting I would get the 360 Buckhammer.
Well said, they need to focus on supplying ammo for the guns we've got vs another cartridge. Like I would advise anyone starting reloading, stock components before buying reloading equipment.
Plenty of cheap 350 Legend ammo sitting on the Walmart shelf here in Florida. Since most of our shots are under 100 yards, the 350 Legend has a following down here.
My sister got the pump Rem in 35 Rem. I got the 30-30 win in a 1894 build in 1920 (as far as I could find out) with a round 26 inch barrel and full length magazine. they both shoot quite a bit better than others I have shot, with factory and hand loaded ammo.
I had the same problem w a henry 44mag AW, i have great eyes and am a profiscient shooter and the rifle shot 6 in high and 6 in right no matter how you adjust the sights, sent it back to henry to fix the sights and when it came back it shot 8 in high and 6 in right. they did not fix the issue, so i put a scope on it and it shoots sub 1 in at 100 now.
So I’m seeing 3 different groups to fall into when deciding between the 35 rem, 360 buck and the rimless straight walls (because they are all very close ballistically) and that would be firearms selection if you want a bolt action or auto loader get the rimless straight wall, if you want a lever action get the 360 and if you want to have an older gun that has historical or nostalgic value use the 35 rem
Use to have a 336 in .35 Rem. Sold it because I had recurring jamming issues with it. However, when I did hunt with it, the jamming wasn't a problem because the deer always went down like it was hit with a sledgehammer. Took my first buck with it back in 1973. Loved the cartridge, just not that particular Marlin. I'm using a Henry Big Boy Steel in .44 mag with Skinner aperture sights in the straight wall area of MIchigan, but that .360 Buckhammer has my attention!
Marlin lever actions often had a jam problem at a certain point in their lives. A good gunsmith could eliminate that problem. I had all my Marlins reworked. No jamming here. After 10 years with 35 Rem, I finally bought a Winchester 30-30 for the history. Put a peep sight on it. Still reach for the 35 for deer. It's a tack driver. Went to 358 Win in a BLR for black bear.
I picked up a Henry Side Gate in 35 Rem. It shoots like a dream! What a woods cartridge! And recently, I've been told that a Marlin 336 in 35 Rem is being handed down to me. When I receive it, I'll get to compare old school against new old school. To me, all these lever legends are rather close in performance and ability. The 350/400 Legend rounds and 360 Buckhammer are just an exercise in redundancy. But that's okay. New traditions and memories will come from them just the same. Some people cringe about scoping or modern equipping a lever action rifle, but I put a Leupold 2-7x33 Freedom on my Henry and it's both gorgeous and easier to shoot!
The 35 Rem factory runs at 34,000 psi MAP to function in the old Remington model 8 auto loader. If you have a Marllin 35 Rem levergun you can handload to the cartridges potential and there is almost no real world differnce between the 35 Rem and the Buckhammer . The Buckhammer is just a 35/30-30 wildcat with a fancy new name.
I’m with you on the “old” eyes. I wear trifocals, and I can either see the target clear or the sights clear. Depends on which part of my glasses I am looking through. I find it easier to see the sights and get a good idea of the location on the target. A reddot helps immensely, but would look out of place on a lever action like that.
Arkansas this rear switched the muzzleloader seasons to "alternate firearms seasons" and you're allowed to use non-semiautomatic straight wall rifle cartridges. So I just bought a Henry 360BH to try out this year. I think it's gonna be plenty good for deer n bears.
I wish they would grandfather in the 35 Rem and 30-30 for straight wall states. Because of this silly law, we have the 45 Raptor, 450 Bushmaster, .41 Great Lakes, 400 Legend, 360 Buck Hammer, 350 Legend.. If shotgun slugs weren't $3+ per round to shoot id probably go back to those, but here we are.
My 1907 Remington "Automatic" is in 35 Rem. It is almost identical to the Mod. 8. The main difference is that it does not say Model 8 anywhere on it. The only markings are the lines "Brownings patent" and the Remington name and address is very small writing on the barrel shroud. My model 14 is also in 35.
Same performance with lower pressure makes the .35 Remington more attractive…..unless you are reloading. Then the straight wall case of the 360 makes case prep simple and cases will last indefinitely.
When My Mom passed. She Wanted Her Rem Mod 8 1909 35 Rem Go To Her Grandson Thanks Mom. Awesome Souther Missouri Deer Rifle Puts Food on Table for Our Family close Too. 70yrs same Mod. 8 35 Rem😊
For the reloaders, .360 BH brass, which is unobtainium right now, can be easily formed from Starline .38-55 brass. One pass through the sizing die, trim to length, deburr and you're good to go.
So I'm not even an old guy, but I firmly believe that a JM marked, New Haven, CT Marlin 336 chambered in .35 Remington is one of the finest rifles anybody could hope to own. I love mine. One of my favorite rifles. I see absolutely no reason to "upgrade" to a new whiz-bang cartridge that doesn't offer all that much over the .35.
I am the guy that calls Ruger and implores them to chamber the 336 in 35 Remington again. The quintessential Adirondack/ NorthEast whitetail and black bear cartridge. Also, Remington loaded the 35 Remington with a 150gr CoreLokt bullet. I haven’t seen them do a run in a while but I have a few boxes stored away in the gun safe. Winchester just did a run of 35 Rem in their PowerPoint line.
Fellow ADK hunter ! I love my 30-30 ‘94 but 35 rem is beautiful !! Cheers
The 150 grain CoreLokt was Remingtons best load for the 35 Marlin mod 336. They were more accurate than the 180 grain, and had more range.
My 336D 35 Rem 18" barrel easily moves the 220gr Speer at 2100fps. That is actual chrono'd velocity average.
I slipped I meant 180 gr.
You can have one bored out to 35 rem (even 356!) for a few hundred bucks
God Bless the Man who cherishes his guns, feeds his family and lives life to the fullest and helps his community. Ron sounds like that Man to me.
That comment sounds perfect!!
Appears to be a solid fella ! 🇺🇸 👍 💯
Reading this for some reason I hear Ted Nugents voice 😆
I hope that the 35 rem. Hangs on. Its a very good woods rifle.
I'm that grandson that got his grandad's 35. Marlin made in 68.
Is that because the other Grandchildren are girls ?
With over a million 35Rem rifles out there that still need ammo, any company that would say "I won't make that cartridge so they will be forced to buy my new stuff" is asking for trouble.
Most in the 2A community can be very stubborn, and do not forget transgressions for a very loooong time.
Same here
Same, I got my grandfather’s 141 pump in .35 Rem, took a beautiful 9 point Buck with it a couple weeks ago. Ran 10-15 yards and hit the ground dead, could’ve followed the blood trail through a tsunami.
The scope is very faded out, so a new Leupold 1.5-5 is going on there before next year, but I now have a new favorite for when I’m in the woods and 100 yard shots are top end. Although my new to me 336 in .35 did well this year too. Two great weapons, awesome cartridge.
Same, except it was my dad’s uncles. Absolutely love it
There is still a lot of people who hunt with the 35 Remington.
@@FranzAntonMesmer No kidding, because it is not a straight wall cartridge.
I just worked out a safe load for my old Marlin 336 in 35 remington. 200 gr. FTX, Leverevolution powder. Pushing 1930 fps at muzzle. 1.05 in groups average. 9 inch low at 200 yards. I'm satisfied with that.
Hornady's lever evolution really make the 30-30 and 35 rem into new beast!
It helps but the 35 Rem. is still in serious decline. And hunters who use the 30-30 just buy the cheapest ammo available.
@@PassivePortfolios Not neccesarily!! This kind of proves the point that the .30-30 *WILL ALWAYS* be “the versatile king,” as it runs phenomenally on all different grain loads, etc. , as it did for over a century. The .35 is awesome too, but def more obsolete for quite a few reasons. So many diff calibers and cartridges out there, that it would drive somebody nuts to have to buy ever spec ever made, in every caliber!! Lol However, seeing how much of an absolute “close range, heavy hitter,” that the .45-70 has become, almost like a brick wall smacking a charging or nearby bear and other “big-game” in that class, I can picture the .35 being another underated and devastatingly-deadly bear cartridge. Def packs a bit more punch than a .30-30, the .45-70’s younger brother. Lol
@@portugal5698 the 45-70 with the wide variety of ammo available for it has made the 35, 375, 356, 444, 450 and now the 360 BH, obsolete.
@@PassivePortfolios That’s a shame, I have used the 35 REM in the woods for decades and it has never let me down. I also use a lever 44 Mag and it also works very well and I took my first whitetail with my Redhawk 44 mag revolver last year at about 25 yards. No need for 3000fps in the woods, just need a big bullet that penetrates deep in my opinion. I still consider getting a 45-70 but at my age what I have works every year and I’m just beginning to need a scope due to my tired old eyes.
@@charlesshoemaker3622 You should consider switching to 150 grain 30-30 because it kicks less than the 35 Rem. I have used it for many years on just about everything and it works just fine. My Marlin 30-30 (from K-Mart) has a 2x7 scope. It's a good woods rifle.
I stocked up after 2013 on .35 hornady 200gr. I run a 336. 1960's manufacture. Groups unbelievably, and is an automatic freezer filler.
First Rifle I ever bought was a Marlin lever action in 35 Remington. Thanks for the way back machine!
I'm 54 now, but got a Rem model 760 in .35 when I was 13. I now have several other more Hi tech deer guns ( .243, 30 06, 300 win mag, and others). if I don't get a buck with a bow here in PA, that trusty .35 is what goes out with me on opening day of rifle season. Within 100 yards it is an awesome deer gun / caliber. I do load my own ammo, but it is pretty close to factory......... This new cartridge has got my attention. I have used my 350 legend on a doe (won that gun) and wasn't that impressed to be honest. I'm thinking this could be the straight wall cartridge I may try sometime if I go hunt with some Ohio friends again
I love that your videos are a bit longer than most on similar subject matter. It really allows for further explanation and detail. Thank you for this great video and an entire catalog of wonderful education!
The trouble with ‘special’ new cartridges is that it can be tough to find these calibers in various geographical locations where you’d like to hunt. Sure you can pack enough for your hunt but what if your luggage is lost or delayed?
All my life I’ve stuck with the ‘old’ cartridges such as 30-30, 30-06, 300 Win Mag and 375 H&H mag etc. I’ve avoided all ‘new’ exotic cartridges and can expect to find the old timers from Buenos Aires to Harare.
Your mileage may vary.
My first hunting rifle was a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. With the Hornady Leverevolution ammo it was very accurate.
the marlin 336 in 35 rem was sold in every Walmart, gun shop for $350. bucks for many years. they were the cheapest deer hunting center fire rifle you could buy. then marlin was bought by Remington, and then Remington went bankrupt. so now we have Ruger marlins and Henry lever rifles but they cost around $1000. or more. now a lever rifle is very expensive and is not the first rifle choice like it was, many new hunters buy a cheap Ruger, or cva, etc in a more modern cartage for their first rifle. marketing, and poor managed rifle manufactures killed the lever guns off.. Remington is starving off 35 rem rifle owners with low ammo or none at all, while pushing the new buckhammer gimmick. I have 2 rem 35 marlins that i handload for getting right at 2400 fps,
I agree with you 100%
Still sell em or wouldn't be in business n making them.
I do agree about straving off certain cartridges n not just in ammo but rifles.
I saw the 1st Ruger American Go Wild in 06 yesterday. Tried n couldn't find nor order 1 3 n 4yrs ago All kinds of them in Hypemoor n other new cartridges. at time n since.
Unfortunately had to leave it with them.
Could not agree more…. Personally I believe the rimless case of the 35 Remington is better.
Remington seems to have a habit of mire or less abandoning cartridges in recent years. Including stuff they brought to the market (I am looking at you, 30 Rem AR). Their mismanagement, sale, and additional mismanagement has something to do with it. The bean counters will say they have to focus on the ammo that sells well. But if you never put other stuff out there, you won't know how it sells. People will buy it. Do like Win does and do 1 or 2 runs per year of the lower volume stuff, then keep it on hand. Only takes a day or 2. Of course it will cost more, due to economies of scale and other factors, but people will buy it. 35 Rem and 35 Whelen both come to mind, but how about 8x57, 7x57, 6.55x55, 260 Rem, etc. In handguns, 32 Long, 41 Mag, etc. Many people still shoot the old standards, and are not interested in new geegaws and gimcracks. Rem saw a market for a straight wall cartridge, and they filled the need. How about doing that with stuff u already have the tooling to make? The only "modern" cartridge which somewhat interests me is the 6.5 PRC, and mainly because i always liked the 6.5x55. Thankfully, Tikka still chambers the Swede.
Btw, the Traditions Outfitter single shot was available in 35 Rem previously. Not sure if they still chamber it. It seems to have disappeared from the SW website in recent months.
If you need help testing with iron sights Ron, let me know. I have always wanted to make a pilgrimage to ID...... 😁
I bought my first Marlin 336CS 30-30 in 1988 at Kmart for $199 brand new , back then they were a value priced first time dear rifle , so was the Winchester mod.94 in 30-30 ,and ammo was less than $10 a box, bought my second Marlin 336 ,a 1953 waffle top in .35 Remington about 10 years ago from a local newspaper ad for $400 , my advice is to shop used and forget the new $1000 plus priced Ruger/Marlin rebranded rifles , still alot of great used rifles on the market these days.
I have my father's 35. Remington model 8. He called it his brush gun.
My grandpa carried a .35 model 8. He could rattle off 5 shots and make it sound like it was an automatic. Beauty of a gun. Crazy hard to find parts.
I bought a Marlin 336 Sport Carbine Deluxe ( half mag., raised comb , and factory checkered , made in 1957 ) in .35 Remington back in 1973 ,after 51 years of shooting and hunting with it I burnt out the barrel and sold the gun , and I miss it , I now have a Marlin 336 ( made in 1974 ) in 30-30 , good deer rifle but wish I had my old rifle back !
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360 Buckhammer gives hunters in straightwall cartridge states another viable option with a little more zip for catching deer at normal ethical distances.
Yet, the old Remington is a more modern cartridge
No trajectory advantage over the 170-180 grain 350 Legend but it has a little more power due to the heavier bullet. Doubtful if the deer will know the difference between the two rounds. But there is a big difference in price between Henry and Marlin rifles in 360 BH and Savage, Mossberg, and Ruger bolt action rifles in 350 Legend. Also the 350 Legend ammo is cheaper and more widely available.
@@PassivePortfolios it can go heavier in bullet weight than the Legend because it uses .358 rifle bullets not pistol and that's definitely an advantage for larger game than whitetail.
@@donwyoming1936 and illegal for hunting in straightwall cartridge states.
@@BornAgain2019 might be helpful on elk and moose. Generally elk and moose rifles with flatter trajectories are preferred in such parts.
My father used a 35 most times. It worked well.
Aperture sights and lever guns are a marriage made in heaven.
I had a 35 Rem gamemaster. Great rifle but only for targets under 200 yards. Beyond that it dropped like a stone.
Wasn't designed as a 200 yrd cartridge.
Pa had a 35 police model 81 ,brother got it i got grandads 300 sav. Love em both . Now i got an 81 in 300 sav. Too . Love your vids ron .
I used 35 Rem. best midwest deer rifle, lots of venison brought home.........
I put a lot of venison in the pan and the freezer in the mountains of PA with my Remington 760, 35 pump.
Great gun but hard to find ammo lately. @@ralphyoung9296
200 gr corelock 35 Rem is deadly on whitetail. I attribute it to the fact that it is only loaded in 35 Rem and designed for 35 rem velocity. Unlike most bullets that have to perform at varying velocity levels.
There's a bunch of Marlins in 35 rem out there.
I found mine in Alpena , Michigan. 2019. At Bob's gun shop.
I was given a Marlin in 35 Remington about 38 years ago when I was 13. I still have it. Took a black bear with it 5 years ago.
@@kearneydillon4803 Funny! I was given mine 37 years ago when... I ... was 13! LOL... Dad gave it to me, my first rifle and it has been in, out of, around and through the eastern N.C. swamps chasing black bear behind dogs like it was going out of style! That hunky slug is absolutely CATESTROPHIC on whatever it touches and in a 336, it just becomes part of you! I'll take mine to the grave!
@@leftistsarenotpeople Be careful of Grave robbers 😆
I would listen to Ron read the phone book. 😂 Great speaker and so much knowledge. Living legend! 🤟🇺🇲
He is an actor, wearing a costume. .... Heads up, Santa, Easter Bunny, & The tooth Fairy are also fake.
@@doneverson1396 Did he steal your wife or something? 😂
@@stanpotter7764 No, I am a hunter. Not a follower. Not fooled by 'Outdoor TV' .
@doneverson1396 Ok Daniel Boone, we're all super impressed 😂
@@doneverson1396 Somebody is jealouuuuus. 😂 Plus you watched his video and read the comments so yeah, you kinda follow Ron.
35rem was my first deer rifle there are some 150gr factor loads for 35rem
One of my favorite cartridges is the 350 rem mag. It is a KNOCKDOWN gun. Hard to find. Over half my brass is cut down 300 win mags and 7 mils. The 35 cal is AWESOME.
I bought my 35 rem brand new in 2011 cuz Indiana allowing 35 cal rifles for deer season and case shape doesn't matter only length people were cutting 358win to make 358hoosier. 35rem just needed a slight trim to leagle
There are also a limited number of single-shot rifles chambered in 35 Remington. More to the point, there's a TON of 35 Remington rifles already sitting in gun safes around the country, so there should still be factory runs of ammunition being made. The bad thing about the 35 Remington is it has a unique head size, meaning you can't easily make it from any other cartridge. (I have made some from 303 British, but it ain't "easy"!) The 360 Buckhammer has the advantage of being made using the same basic brass as the 30/30, and it could be formed from such fairly easily in the future, if it comes to that. I still have a lot of love for the 35 Remington, just like I do the 6.5 Grendel - cuz sometimes enough cartridge is just perfect!
It's worth noting that you can push 35 Remington cases to higher pressures in modern actions, like the 336 (See Ken Waters' loads). Also, the 35-30/30 was one of the very first wildcat cartridges based on a smokeless parent case. Guys would take shot-out 30/30 rifles, have them bored out to shoot 35 caliber bullets, and viola! So, this cartridge really isn't new...it's at least 100 years old, the only difference is it's been shortened and tapered such that it's kinda-sorta straight-walled.
I was able to convert 308 into 35 Remington to function and cycle in my 336. You are correct it’s not the easiest thing to accomplish BUT. If you really want to shoot your grandfathers deer rifle it can be done. While I’m at it i think you could appreciate what i found on FB market place. What’s the chances a guy is searching on FB market place looking for anything reloading. Comes across a post explaining they have some old casting gear molds and lead. I go to check it out and the gentleman says “oh idk if you would be interested in these 3 box’s of ammo I have” I respond “yeah let me see what you have” and what he pulls out is 3 new old stock box’s of 35 Remington 200gr core lokt. I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I had been looking for that ammo for a solid 3 years. And to my surprise a fluke of happenstance I lucked out on that deal. What’s the odds
I recently got into reloading and thought it quaint my .35 and 6.5x54 both took the same shell holder
I'll stick to the old 35 Remington ..love it
My safe includes a Remington 760 in 35REM and a couple of Marlin 336 in 35REM. They each see the deer woods every fall!
Academy here in my town has had 35 Remington for over a month of Remington and Hornady still have plenty of Hornady as of now .I am stocked up 👍😊
There are a lot of us out here that have Grandpa eyes Mr. Spomer. 🙂 Enjoy your videos.
35 Whelen, a nice 35 with no love!
Great cartridge, but it’s in a completely different class than the 35 Rem and 360 buckhammer
A 35 Whelen was my last new firearm purchase . It's a Beast 💪 men use a 35 Whelen.
Love me my Whelen. Probably the last gun I would ever get rid of. It is a black bear smashing machine.
Only heard good things about the Whelen! A cartridge that should have made it big!!? But as you say.......not much love! 🤔😔
Remington 7600 Power. Simply the best.
The 360 Buckhammer is one of the few “new” cartridges I would actually buy. And I like that it is a lever gun cartridge!
I started hunting in the 1980’s in NewYorks Catskill mountains and red plaid wool was still what everyone wore. The Marlin 35 was THE RIFLE to have at that time. I took my first doe with my .35 and still hunt with it today. Although I have a larger collection today to choose from I often grab my 35. With an old 4x redfield scope with the TV shaped scope it will shoot 1moa with 200 grain Hornady Lever Evolution at 100 yards. Remington core lock will shoot 2 to 2.5 moa.
15:36 i had the same problem with the original sights on my henry 3030, it was hard to see through.. i switched them out wit HiViz sights. Its way better then the factory.. maybe be better with the Rear Hi Viz and the Stock front sight
Cause the front hiviz sight is kind of fat. Not for long range precision shooting
Wow! .35 Remington. Brings back some awesome memories! High School friend of mine had a Rifle chambered in this cartridge. Mark Dahmas...Class of '90....was 28 years ago he passed on. Seems like just yesterday! I was just reminiscing with a few friends about his "Granddaddies gun", when we last got together at Montlake Skeet Center, Soddy Daisy-Mowbray Mountain...Chattanooga,Tn area. He couldnt shoot that rifle if his life depended on it....J Benton and myself had no issues...we hit every thing we shot at with that .35 Remington. That was the last time the boys were all together '92. We all got married, grew apart, lived separate lives....'96 was a year full of BS. Wish I could go back, we took those days for granted, you know? Eh, he lives on in our laughter...awesome times man! Thanks for the memories Ron!
What I think makes the 360 stand out over the 35 rem, the 30-30, the 350 and 400 is if you look at the reloading data there is quite a bit of room for increased speeds. Enough that I believe it bumps it up to a different class. Interesting cartridge.
Rossi r95 series has a lever action in 360 buckhammer as well.
All this did was convince me to keep using my 760 in 35 rem
And here I thought it was going to be an announcement that more 35 Rem were about to be made. Can't find ammo for my Dad's old Marlin 336 anywhere.
There’s plenty of Hornady and Federal 35 Rem available online and Federal even has two offerings: Poweshok 200g or 220g FN in Federal Premium’s Hammer Down line for lever actions. I also bought a couple boxes of Winchester last year to try.
I think the 360 BH is a great option for "restricted" areas IF you want to limit yourself to a lever gun. Otherwise I think the 350 Legend or the newer 400 Legend would be great as they run in the AR platform. I have shot hogs here in Texas for the past few years with 350 Legend in AR rifles and pistols I have built and the 350 Legend does a good job. Would be neat if Henry, Marlin (Ruger) or Winchester would come out with a lever gun in 350 Legend.
Another great video!!! Thank you so much. Keep'em coming
My 35 Remington (Marlin 336) is nowhere near dead or obsolete. Factory 200 RN ammo started getting difficult to find a few years ago. New factory brass shows up on occasion which I sack up.
What really keeps it alive for me besides reloading 200 gr RN is reloading "Plinking rounds" with the 357 mag 158 lead hard cast SWC. Ghost ring sighted rifle great for short range target, kid training rifle, just plain fun and pests around the farm.
Ammo availability. Components for reloading. Probably getting a used 35 vs a really expensive new 360.
@@FranzAntonMesmerit's not even close to the 38-55 case one is rimmed and the other is rimless also the 35 Remington is a bottle necked cartridge and the old 38-55 Winchester is a straight wall cartridge
@@Jeff-sl8xz38-55👍
@@Jeff-sl8xz So get a 375 Winchester then. lol
@@m1a1abrams93 I've got All three 35,375,38-55 plus a 348
I've got All three actually 35 rem,375win, and 38-55 win as well as the 44 mag 45_70,444 and 450 Marlin 😂😂😂 got 30-30,32 SPL and 25-35 also@@m1a1abrams93
Ron , I have a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington. My plans are to hunt with it if I get a Black Hills tag I have a preference points wish me luck !.
Most of the states with the straight wall rife cartridge came from them upgrading shotgun only areas.
My father in law had a 740 and 760 Remington in 35 Remington
Remington used to make a 150 pointed sp for use in the Rem 14 & 141 due to it's spiral magazine.
Winchester made a Model 70 with a 20" barrel in .35 Remington, once upon a time. I myself constructed a bolt action based on a 1894 Brazilian small ring Mauser, with a 24" barrel. Loads using the no longer available Hornady 180gr SSP bullet were worked up. This was done for my sister's then second husband(don't ask), as he had a Marlin 336C that for some reason "he" just couldn't manage to shoot very well. That worked well for him for many years....
The 360 Buckhammer interests me. Only because I would like to go deer hunting in Illinois with my grandsons. Illinois just started allowing rifle hunting for whitetails. They are a straight wall state. Not only straight wall. But single shot rifles as well. I wonder if I could get a barrel adapter for my single shot 12 gauge. I know I can for the .35 Remington. I love the .35 Remington, I saw some recipes for loading the Hornady 140 grain 357 magnum leverevolution bullets in the Remington. I don't reload any more. I don't think I have enough guts to try that. Even if I was still reloading.
I am at the point of reloading my 35 Rem now.
The stores are not getting any orders. Not even Hornady.
I get the hornady powder and heads now.
I seen Rem Corelokt on the shelves for 35 Rem & Federal is making 300 Savage. Not exactly as cheap as rolling your own, but they are making a little here & there.
I found 200 grain lever evolution at Scheels last month and picked up 4 boxes. Expensive but Grandpa's Marlin is back in action for a few more years.
@@AlanKarns I wish we had a Scheels close by. Try finding some 375 for 375 Win. I'm still looking. I did get some Hammer bullets to try one of these days. I have some seconds from Midway for my 35 Rem. If the Hammers work well in the 375, I will get some in for the 35 Rem.
I love those leaver action rifles Ron i had some that break in half 300 win mag i sold during pandemic for good money went to hunters for hunting i would guess they come in 308 and 243 and and 45 and 3030 and 45/70 3.5 Creed and so on love them all. They hold their value thats for sure specially the stainless steel once. These classic hunting rifles that will never go out of style ever they are always beloved and worth to own a piece of history thats for sure.
I remember this same sort of conversation and comparison back in the 1980s regarding 30-30, .35rem, .356win, and .375win. The key to all of these was keeping the velocities up, getting good reliable terminal effect, and not letting trajectories fall off. Best ways/means to do so was averaging 40-75 yard shots and efforts to keep under 150yds. Still have my .375win BigBore XTR. Peep-sight and very accurate. .356win is along same balistics as .360 BuckHammer. I would only see BuckHammer for those requiring adhearance to straight-wall cartridge state rules. Traditionally .35rem and especially if/when seeking good old school used guns.
I still use a 35 Remington but I called Remington a few months back and they said that they was gonna continue to make the 35 but i haven't been able to find it anywhere but online since covid. I also watched a release video from Remington and they said to not worry but the 35 wasn't going anywhere but I don't know how I feel about it since I cant find it anymore in stores.
I'm 61 and still have my grandfather's marlin 336 that he bought in the early 50s.
I love my 35 Rem in my Marlins! JM originals....
You know ? What if they do make a 760 woodsmaster again with that round !! I would love to see it !! I would !
One of the most useful Rifle for the serious hunter. I would not feel under gunner with one of these anywhere in the USA
Absolutely love my 336 in 35 Rem. Hard to find ammo so i began reloading for it. I put a cheap, 4X scope on it and it shoots 1.5" at 100 yds. That is more than accurate enough for me since i only hunt in the woods with it. (If you can see beyond 100 yards, you are not in the woods). Never let me down, ever!
My boys used to make fun of it (and me) saying it was so behind the times.
Now they ask to borrow it.
being you reload I guess there isn't a need to reply. they must do a run now and then. i picked up a box of federal and a box of hornady levalution or whatever a couple days ago. so they still do a production run once in a while. also the internet has them available. the 35 didnt sell well in the midwest, everyone has a 30-30 or 30.06. I think the sold well in the eastern states.
Have a Remington model 81 in 35
Rem.
A fun rifle but the cost of ammo is shocking time to learn how to reload 😁✌️
Thanks for the video Ron.
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Ron, you hit the top right bullseye. Middle ring lower right quadrant.
Man, if you can’t see your hits, your eyes ARE bad 🤪
(I’m old too,)
I watched this podcast and was reminded of the scene in “Tombstone” when Doc Holliday says , “He reminds me of me.” I m referring to your complaints about your aging eyes and difficulty using iron sights. I sound just like you, but a Williams Foolproof aperture sight on my .35 Remington still lets me shoot to the practical range of the cartridge.
I still have my model 94. My father bought it for me in 1966 for $50. It was made in 1947. I just might have to take it out a couple times this fall.
The .35 remington also worked well in the semiauto remington model 8 autoloader. The only thing really hurting the .35 remington is that it is hard to find ammo for it and the straight wall cartridges have a legal niche that allows them to be used in more places where bottle rounds are outlawed.
Nice video As always Ron. I wonder if you took the ladder right out of the rear sight if that would lower your shots enough for you. It doesn't take much to make a difference on impact. A taller front sight on a ramp may do the trick as well . Of course the options you mentioned would also be fine.
Ron, I would like to see you do a dedicated episode on lightweight bolt action mountain rifles and compact scopes.
i enjoyed this vid. much prefer when you do it solo vs guest. Keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing.
Last year took a white tail with my 1866 in 45lc was lots of fun defiantly had to get in close
Get a Marbles peep sight that replaces your current rear sight. From the side doesn’t look different but that peep shows up real well , I would also replace that front sight with a Marbles gold bead one. That combo works great for old eyes!
I have a Marlin 336 with 24"barrel in 35 remington. Great combination.
Though not ideal my Dad decided to take the shot on his running deer in the southern sierra Nevada's in 1994, got his buck. It was at 300 yards and about to go over the ridge. He said he aimed for the lungs but ended up being a bit low and got it right through the heart. Remington Model seven with 7mm-08 hand loads Leupold 2-7x scope. Very nice combo. Weighs in at 6 pounds couple ounces. Had a Kevlar composite stock it was bedded into. He really liked that gun. He had taped a piece of string to the end of the barrel to see which way the wind was blowing and used a practiced hold over. He told me you just have to practice a lot. Said it was like throwing a football, if you practice enough it becomes in gain how far and how to aim. I don't think he took shots past about 300-400 yards though. 500 yards was considered far back then before range finders were common. People could do it but most didn't think it was ethical to attempt it on live game. P.S. He loved lever actions! I have an antler handle knife. It's neat but not as nice as the one you are showing here.
Just bought my Henry side gate in 44 mag and relay like but trouble loading through the side gate
The 360 Buckhammer is awesome for straight walled cartidge states. I always wanted a 35 Remington but never had a use for it due to living in Ohio. Went from a slug gun to an inline ML in 1998, Then a 45/70 when they finally allowed straight walled cartridges in 2018. The 350 Legend came along and is now king in my area but I did not buy one because of the ammopocalypse. If the manufacturers want me to buy a new gun these days they have to do better at making ammo WAY cheaper and available. Otherwise I will pass it up. But if your in the market for a lever gun for hunting I would get the 360 Buckhammer.
Well said, they need to focus on supplying ammo for the guns we've got vs another cartridge. Like I would advise anyone starting reloading, stock components before buying reloading equipment.
Plenty of cheap 350 Legend ammo sitting on the Walmart shelf here in Florida. Since most of our shots are under 100 yards, the 350 Legend has a following down here.
That was fun Ron, Thank you.
Actually Ron I think the 35 Remington was built to be used in the Remington model 8 autoloader rifle!
Yep! That's what I was saying as he was going down the list
Not for me.
Yup. There was a 25, 30, 32, and 35 caliber for the model 8
That's exactly why it was made for the old model 8 auto loader
Right you are!
I inherited my Grandfather's 35 Remington in the Remington model 8. And it's an awesome rifle and cartridge
My sister got the pump Rem in 35 Rem. I got the 30-30 win in a 1894 build in 1920 (as far as I could find out) with a round 26 inch barrel and full length magazine. they both shoot quite a bit better than others I have shot, with factory and hand loaded ammo.
I had the same problem w a henry 44mag AW, i have great eyes and am a profiscient shooter and the rifle shot 6 in high and 6 in right no matter how you adjust the sights, sent it back to henry to fix the sights and when it came back it shot 8 in high and 6 in right. they did not fix the issue, so i put a scope on it and it shoots sub 1 in at 100 now.
So I’m seeing 3 different groups to fall into when deciding between the 35 rem, 360 buck and the rimless straight walls (because they are all very close ballistically) and that would be firearms selection if you want a bolt action or auto loader get the rimless straight wall, if you want a lever action get the 360 and if you want to have an older gun that has historical or nostalgic value use the 35 rem
Very funny opening. Lots of good information.
Agh Old Eyes n Open Sights Are Fun..n We all overlook stuff..
I have it in the 760 remington pump action love it
Good video Ron keep up the good work
Use to have a 336 in .35 Rem. Sold it because I had recurring jamming issues with it. However, when I did hunt with it, the jamming wasn't a problem because the deer always went down like it was hit with a sledgehammer. Took my first buck with it back in 1973. Loved the cartridge, just not that particular Marlin. I'm using a Henry Big Boy Steel in .44 mag with Skinner aperture sights in the straight wall area of MIchigan, but that .360 Buckhammer has my attention!
Marlin lever actions often had a jam problem at a certain point in their lives. A good gunsmith could eliminate that problem. I had all my Marlins reworked. No jamming here. After 10 years with 35 Rem, I finally bought a Winchester 30-30 for the history. Put a peep sight on it. Still reach for the 35 for deer. It's a tack driver. Went to 358 Win in a BLR for black bear.
@@chucklimbeck1617 I use an old 1894 Marlin 44 mag in south east Oklahoma as well as a 336 in 35 REM. I really enjoy the 44 in the woods.
I picked up a Henry Side Gate in 35 Rem. It shoots like a dream! What a woods cartridge! And recently, I've been told that a Marlin 336 in 35 Rem is being handed down to me. When I receive it, I'll get to compare old school against new old school.
To me, all these lever legends are rather close in performance and ability. The 350/400 Legend rounds and 360 Buckhammer are just an exercise in redundancy. But that's okay. New traditions and memories will come from them just the same.
Some people cringe about scoping or modern equipping a lever action rifle, but I put a Leupold 2-7x33 Freedom on my Henry and it's both gorgeous and easier to shoot!
The 35 Rem factory runs at 34,000 psi MAP to function in the old Remington model 8 auto loader. If you have a Marllin 35 Rem levergun you can handload to the cartridges potential and there is almost no real world differnce between the 35 Rem and the Buckhammer . The Buckhammer is just a 35/30-30 wildcat with a fancy new name.
Nice looking gun, action sounds slick, maybe try the Full Choke to tighten up that pattern.
I’m with you on the “old” eyes. I wear trifocals, and I can either see the target clear or the sights clear. Depends on which part of my glasses I am looking through. I find it easier to see the sights and get a good idea of the location on the target. A reddot helps immensely, but would look out of place on a lever action like that.
I had a chance to pick up a remington model 8 (or 88 I can't remember which) I really wish I had now as it was in 35 remington.
Arkansas this rear switched the muzzleloader seasons to "alternate firearms seasons" and you're allowed to use non-semiautomatic straight wall rifle cartridges. So I just bought a Henry 360BH to try out this year. I think it's gonna be plenty good for deer n bears.
LOVED your "snicker" when talking about the Biggest Finest Revolvers! 😉
I wish they would grandfather in the 35 Rem and 30-30 for straight wall states. Because of this silly law, we have the 45 Raptor, 450 Bushmaster, .41 Great Lakes, 400 Legend, 360 Buck Hammer, 350 Legend.. If shotgun slugs weren't $3+ per round to shoot id probably go back to those, but here we are.
Fantastic intro @Ronspomer!!!
My 1907 Remington "Automatic" is in 35 Rem. It is almost identical to the Mod. 8. The main difference is that it does not say Model 8 anywhere on it. The only markings are the lines "Brownings patent" and the Remington name and address is very small writing on the barrel shroud. My model 14 is also in 35.
Same performance with lower pressure makes the .35 Remington more attractive…..unless you are reloading. Then the straight wall case of the 360 makes case prep simple and cases will last indefinitely.
Thank You ...
When My Mom passed. She Wanted Her Rem Mod 8 1909 35 Rem Go To Her Grandson
Thanks Mom. Awesome Souther Missouri Deer Rifle
Puts Food on Table for Our Family close Too. 70yrs same
Mod. 8 35 Rem😊
For the reloaders, .360 BH brass, which is unobtainium right now, can be easily formed from Starline .38-55 brass. One pass through the sizing die, trim to length, deburr and you're good to go.
You can also form it from 30-30
So I'm not even an old guy, but I firmly believe that a JM marked, New Haven, CT Marlin 336 chambered in .35 Remington is one of the finest rifles anybody could hope to own. I love mine. One of my favorite rifles. I see absolutely no reason to "upgrade" to a new whiz-bang cartridge that doesn't offer all that much over the .35.