Native Americans React to Elizabeth Warren’s DNA Test: Stop Making Native People “Political Fodder”
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- democracynow.org - Native Americans across the country are criticizing Senator Elizabeth Warren’s decision to use a DNA test to assert her Native American heritage. Chuck Hoskin Jr., secretary of state of the Cherokee Nation, said, “Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong.” We host a roundtable discussion of Native American activists and journalists to respond to Warren’s DNA test and the subsequent media coverage. In Fargo, North Dakota, we speak with Tara Houska, national campaign director for Honor the Earth and an Ojibwe lawyer. In Anchorage, Alaska, we speak with Mark Trahant, editor of Indian Country Today. He’s a member of the Shoshone-Bannock Tribes. In Seattle, Washington, we speak with Gyasi Ross, a member of the Blackfeet Nation and host of the podcast Breakdances With Wolves.
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The issue is: She took someone's affirmative action slot that she was not entitled to.
The college did that not her.
"Affirmative action" puts in incentives to lie about background.
Omg I wish I had a dollar for every time I heard somebody say, “I’m part Cherokee.” 😂😂 Ts cracks me up. Lol
@@reginaldriggins3270 I would be rich if I got a dollar for everytime someone told me they have "blackfoot" in them. I hear this all the time just like how Cherokee is claimed. I'm sorry to tell you there is no such tribe as "blackfoot". Only Siksika (Blackfeet Nation) in Montana and Alberta Canada.
its become quite a trend
@@Uprising771 It's been an on going trend since the 1800s.
Why
Why
I have no issue with Warrens story and having Native American “ancestry” or not if it’s true or not that’s not the issue. The issue is Warren is labeled the first woman of color professor at HARVARD! Why? Because in her late 30’s and 40’s, all of a sudden from checking the Caucasian “White” box....to checking “Native American”.....why?...this is what I want to know. Why did she claim Native America ethnicity for the first time in her life when applying for a job at Harvard and again off and on when applying for other high position job opportunities? It’s my understanding that one can not have interchangeable ethnicity. I believe Warren used and built her professional career on the back of minority benefits. This is wrong and is called FRAUD.
Erin.....this is my issue too. Why not identify as Native American from the start? First professor, woman of color @ Harvard. What a JOKE!
SURFER X BLOOD you say “we” like you and I are both liars too. I’m proud of my heritage as I’m proud of my kids, I don’t need to lie to get a job or go to school or get ahead. All I have to do is work harder than everyone else and understand it takes TIME to get to the finish line. I think we all need to distinguish that what people in the past have done should not reflect on the people who love now. My family didn’t come to North America until after prohibition, my family being white had nothing to do with American slavery, Native American genocide in fact my family heritage includes those of almost every race brutalized throughout time. I don’t hate nor care more because of it. I don’t get why anyone does, you can’t change the past so why live like white people were the only ones who did or still do all of the bad shit in the world. Every group in the world has a bad guy, but every group in the world has more good than bad by leaps and bounds. So your all white people are liars is kind of sad if that’s what you really think. Your education on these topics are either skewed or flat out biased to a fault. I suggest you should go look into things yourself vs believing whomever you listen to to guide your beliefs. I know it’s easier to have someone tell you what to believe or learn but doing something yourself is worth having your own opinions and thoughts. Having someone else think for you is no different than being brain dead.
One student on the Harvard law staff described her as a "woman of color" in relation to her Native ancestry in an article about intersectionality (which was a REACH but we've all been there when you're in school trying to make it work), but Harvard did not cite her as such and she doesn't identify this way.
You looks sweet
erin s, if you have no issue, what matters how she checked her ethnicity? she can claim both white and native american. if claiming native american ethnicity gives her better chance of being accepted at harvard, good for her. she has the right to claim her heritage at any time, at any point in time. it only matters that she actually has native american ancestry within her and she has proven that she does
I love the story of her great, great, great grandmother having native in her family...as she shows us pictures of people obviously 100% WHITE.
haha but we can't really tell their eye color from this.
@@abbad707 yea
😂😂
So just cause someone 'looks' white, it must mean they're white?
Wow not racist to mix race people who look white.
Elizabeth Warren got her tribal name. Chief Spreading Bull.
hahahahaha!!!! Good one!
Chris Dunham = TrumpTurd!
Dammit, I disagree, but that's making me laugh. A lot.
😂😂😂😂😂
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Right, if Warren is Native American, then I'm Cleopatra.
Maybe Warren is Cleopatra--Queen of Denial.
And I'm white since I am 20% white! 😊😊
Elizabeth war could be like 20% native American and rest European 75% Irish, Scottish, German, french
Nice to meet you Cleo, Lol! Seriously though reportedly Warren has very little Native American ancestry.
I'm more disappointed Elizabeth Warren didn't lift a finger to bring attention to the folks resisting DAPL.
Exactly. Amy went to Standing Rock...
Because she's a sellout and doesn't actually give a shit about native people.
by Elizabeth Warren 2016
"I don’t know how anyone could watch the news and not be horrified by what’s happening at Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota."
She did a whole speech in support of NODAPL
I agree about her being missing on DAPL, Biiavians.
As for this panel here on Democracy Now, they still seem to be a waring people. Even though they were tactful about addressing what Dab Haaland ( who is running for congress in New Mexico) said, It is clear they disagree with her stance that Warren was making a point to prove Trump a fool and that Warren isn't hiding the fact of her families relationship with Native Americans in the past.
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Native Americans are the real deal citizens of our land !!!!! And I'm proud of that !!
I am 5/16th indian, my mom was sent to Indian school, and as a kid I had a blue card (for hunting and fishing rights as a tribal member).
The idea that I could be anything but part Indian is absurd. If I were 1/1000 part Chinese or African, that would be part of my heritage too. Glen
Ms. Houska, IT'S A JOKE, what Sen. Graham said about casinos and $1 million is a JOKE. LIGHTEN UP, it's ok for people to kid around.
miamistorm can’t agree with you there. Lindsay Graham’s comments were asinine, offensive and smacked of white privilege. Too bad there’s so much blindness in this country. And blood quantum is not the determining factor of one’s cultural truth.
Yes it was indeed a Joke. Some folks don't understand the elements that make up humor...tongue-in-cheek, irony, sarcasm, dry wit, etc....so they become unable to understand the concept. I have a feeling these three understand that it was a joke but choose to twist it around for their own purposes.
Sarcasm is actually on the violence scale. I used to be a sarcastic bastard, until I realized that. Kindness is a practice. I do understand that the good senator was joking around. But so was the Donald when he joked about his celebrity privilege. You know when comedians stretch it, we’re paying them to do that. Do we really want our elected officials to be clowns and court jesters. Ah well, standards in this country are nothing to brag about these days.
@@MatthewSweigart Some people are sarcastic without being a bastard. Politicians have joked around since their existence.We have many important issues to consider from which this foolishness is taking time and discussion. If people could see jokes as jokes, we could get on with the work at hand.
This goes to show you - "you can't joke, OR speak the truth" one will always be judged or misunderstood.
this is just about the stupidest political issue i can imagine.
Thank the left for that......unless it boomerangs back at them haha
@Herman Lipshitz I can understand why she did it. I definitely understand why I native would be offended. Great! Somebody calls you a name and you get a DNA test but what does that do for all the native suffering. Despite being the little baby name calling from the Oval Office, For Heaven's Sake, wouldn't it be great to follow up that test with actually doing something that would greatly help tribes! Do something Elizabeth! Do something whichever party cares! And for God sake, South Dakota Republicans, the very least you could do is support the United States beliefs in Freedom and stop figuring out tricks to keep Native Americans from voting in your state!
It is stupid, I can't believe it is in the news at all.
@@katrand5357 I guess you missed the part where trump said he would pay a million dollars and she told him to which native american group to send the check to.
@@Aggrobiscuit it's not fraud if she said she was part indian because she actually is.
I thought I was 100% European but never knew my biological father. I did two different test and both companies came back saying I was 90% European, 3% African, and 7% Native American. This inspired me to seek out more information think about where my ancestors came from and how they all mixed together. This is truly fascinating stuff.
You only need 2% African and you get the N word pass just so you know
by Elizabeth Warren 2016
"I don’t know how anyone could watch the news and not be horrified by what’s happening at Standing Rock Reservation in North Dakota."
She did a whole speech in support of NODAPL
Thank you, Dick Macgurn for bringing some factual material into this discussion.
That was months after the poor souls had been beaten down by the police and mercenaries.
She didn't even go there. Tulsi Gabbard went there.
Where was Warren?
By the way, she was a Republican, voted for Reagan, and only became a Democrat in 1996. She is a phoney!
DITTO!!!!!
You clearly didn't bother to follow DAPL protests in real time but now you choose to spam in 3-4 places with flat out misleading nonsense. Warren didn't do a "speech", ever on DAPL. She did NOTHING during the actual period of protests when protesters were shot at, bitten up by dogs, unfairly arrested and detained, or water cannoned in freezing temperatures. AFTER a team of veterans wen't down to ND to do civil disobedience (which was joined by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard) , raising the spectacle of a Veterans vs Police drama all over national media, Obama finally caved in and issued a stay on the easement of drilling under Missouri river.
AFTER that announcement, which was the official green signal from her party's establishment, Warren issued the statement you are quoting from.
46 idiots have even chosen to upvote this. And this happened only two years ago. FUCK.
desimurgi
You speak the truth. Unfortunately we are dealing with maggots who don't care about truth. To then it's all tribal.
Warren is a one-trick pony. She just voted for Trump's $100 billion increase in military spending. She is a hawk on foreign policy.
I don't agree with this backlash against Warren a lot of people have Native American blood in their lineage.
@Matthew Rider you hit it on the head excellent point
SHE FALSIFIED COLLEGE APPLICATIONS PAPERS YOU IDIOT! THAT'S what this backlash is all about.
That doesn't make them Native American just because they have 1% of it in them
Everybody has a right to his full heritage and history, anything else is just racist and have no right to argue that. Having legal rights is offcourse a different thing.
i did love that show where the racist klan member did it and found out he was part black.
what we all know is the more diverse our DNA is the healthier we are.
its also one of the best pick lines....
got any welsh in you ? want some ? ;)
no such thing as "white people" anyone using that has no understanding of heritage or genetics,and is simply using it to segregate themselves or others and is racist.
there are no blacks and there are no whites,there are pinky brown and brown,just shades of those colours.....oh and since sunbeds,orange.
claiming a skin colour is pure fakery and not in reality.
his/her/their
FRAUDcahontas got exposed. Good for her! Hahaha
@ Cate someone
for a start its not an opinion,race has always been a word used to segregate people of the same species so a distance from each other can be set to inact some sort of atrocity or other.
the actual words used should be those who do,and those who get it done to.
probably down to where i grew up,we grew up in a melting pot so racist crap didnt get through to us.
still doesnt gel for me at this age,hating for skin colour or birth place will always be an alien concept......thankfully
My dna test said I'm 6%-7% Jewish. It also said I have a lot of 4th, 5th, 6th cousins who are 100% Jewish
Benedict happens to be Jewish according to my dad's family's US and English genealogy. My dad's family forgot the traditions, and that's why I never had a bar mitzvah. William Andrew Benedict the first is my main ancestor from England.
You know, I like how my mom explained this all to me growing up.
Her hobby is genealogy. She has poured through centuries of church and public records, and with the computer age, she got extra deep in the records. She found damn near everything in that family tree, Irish, French-Canadian, Native American, German, Scottish, and all manner of people, smiths, farmers, soldiers, boxers, doctors, terrorists, no nobles, but some regicides...
Anyway, one day so she's telling me all of this about our family history. I decide to ask her, what does that make us?
She says, people.
Now, I could end the story there, but I didn't end my questions there. I pressed on.
"So, like, some kind of Irish American, or Native or something?"
"No, not really."
"Well, why not?"
"One, because that don't really matter anyway. Two, cause anyone looking at you caring about those things will see a white boy, maybe from the South. Three, it ain't about what and who they were, it's about what and who you are, and that's from what you do, mostly."
Thanks for posting that.
Sounds like wisdom to me.
Exactly! Brilliantly said!
“Upgrade herself??” What is wrong with you people?? What is wrong to share your family tree?? I am more than happy to learn that Liz has a background with the native, what is wrong with you?? She doesn’t need to “get credit” in any form or shape... Her carrier is OUTSTANDING!! Get a life !
Would check the box "black" on a college application if you knew it would give you an advantage over others? Your picture shows you to be a white boy.
robert howard What??? You mean Pocahontas lived in Machoupitchou?? What a shame lol
From the 1800s till now,how did natives become so pale😐
www.pinterest.com/pin/566186984386397739/
I know a lot of Natives in SD and there are a lot of whites that marry into the tribes and actually embrace the culture, stay and have families. So what's the big deal about that? Most whites don't really have their own culture other than being mixed within other whites.
@@summertea545 Whites have Western culture, which is imitated the world over. We have the British Empire to thank...or not thank...for that.
Because they are race traitors
Sugar Cane, Antoine was just asking a simple question based on what he's noticed. His question was innocent and nothing bad intended. PLEASE refrain from adding to the already overly sensitive, easily offended mentality of today's times.
Warren never claimed to be a tribal member. In fact, in the video she specifically says that the DNA test CANNOT be used to indicate tribal membership. She grew up being told by her family that she had some native American ancestors and the DNA test proved that was correct.
Look, this argument that she is not part of a tribal nation is disingenuous. It's like telling someone that claims to be of Italian descent that they are not a citizen of Italy. No freaking duh! Citizenship is not the claim.
She claimed to be native and was the first female of colour at the Harvard faculty.
She claimed to have native american ancestry which she does.
kedwa30 YES! Why is it so hard for people to understand this?
@@HammerheadGuitar for Harvard to claim this, Harvard should have verified whether or not it was true to their liking. Apparently Harvard was satisfied that it was true but other people prefer their own opinion about Elizabeth Warren's heritage.
kedwa30 How is it an opinion to state that she is whiter than the average northern European and lied about being a native to further her carreer? And btw i'm 0.1% black nigga.
Its Elizabeths story, its her family's story, her heritage. She has a right. I disagree with the panelists. they might use warren and the opportunity she represents to highlight the plights and mistreatment of native americans. they're angry understandably but cmon its her family's story. shes allowed to tell it.
L Jett she’s a white woman. She’s a liar.
She has a right? My god you people are sick! She has less native blood than the average white American and its justified because its “her right”? Wow...wonder what you’d think of a Republican pulled the same maneuver
She does. She doesn't have the right to claim tribal affiliation, which she has. That is what the pushback is about.
Gary Johnson well at least you acknowledge that there is/should be pushback...you know there is something besides DNA testing...its called historically documentation of birthrights. That’s what the tribal community uses most of the time. She can’t provide any of that! Odd for someone who’s mother and father allegedly had to elope because of racist grandparents. I’m 1/64th and have documentation that would show who is who.
@@tydaftpk38 Trump claimed he was Swedish for many years rather than German.
I disagree with his statement that DNA tests are trying to make Native Americans as people who are immigrants, I have trace DNA of Yakut which is Native people of Siberia. I don’t see the Yakut as immigrants of Siberia.
Natives are immigrants to this land but are the original Americans! The 1st of their and our kind on this land! Protectors of this land. Nothing but respect for their history
Anyone else think the "Indian Country" editor looked super white?
El Bowering, the guy he's talking about is an editor for a magazine called "Indian Country Today".
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What are you talking about? I never refered to anyone as "Indian".
what is disrespectful by warren? trying to defend herself against vicious personal attack on a national stage? my greatgrandfather was russian, am i not allowed to say that? does it imply i claim any rights?
i might miss a huge point, but the only issue in all of this is trump, nothing else.
She went well beyond claiming to be part native.
Clearly she's a white woman with about a 1% or less of native ancestry. But through the 80s in the 90s she was listed in a directory of minority law professors while she was at UPenn and Harvard.
This occurred because she self described as a minority and even reported herself as such to the point where Harvard Law School touted her as the first woman of color professor, and boasted of having minorities in the faculty. Again, if she didn't benefit, the school did benefit from her missrepresenting herself as a minority and as a Native American.
A white dude with a 1% sub-Saharan African ancestry wouldn't call himself black. I'm Hispanic with 1/8 Danish ancestry and I don't go around calling myself a northern European. Warren did so, and did self identify as a minority and as a Native American. Schools and university she taught at, and even studies about minorities in Academia touted her as such because she self-identified that way.
thnx, carlos. makes more sense now. i do not have the time to varify what you are saying, but i assume you are accurate and that sounds indeed a bit weird.
though i must say i still do not see the big issue. what i heard from her was that within her family that indeed had been an issue, this was discussed and played a key role in how family affairs played out a few generations ago. so where is the moral wrong doing on her part? why is her identifying with native americans in any way a bad thing, even if it was faint and slim? it is not like she is claiming to be a kennedy or something.
and you seem to indicate that she might not have had any benefit from this, but harvard did. well, how can that be her fault? where is the moral code she broke?
everything i have ever heard from her was honest, brave, anti-establishment and i cannot help but think that this thing here is either totally blown out of proportion or a non-issue to begin with. i heard lindsay graham say he will take a test and claim he is at least as native as she is, but that misses the point she has been making, namely that it had an effect on decisions being made in her family. THAT is the whole point, not the % of DNA.
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She used her so called heritage to get benefits in college. That is not ok
“The ultimate goal of a dna test is to prove native americans are immigrants like the rest”
But she’s not saying that
Shes also not trying to join a tribe
though they are indeed immigrants like the rest of us, just a much farther back immigration.
This lady Tara Houska is extremely disrespectful to mixed raced people. She disrespect us to be mixed race and decided who and where to live. She said; you can be whatever ethnical group you are, the important is what you claimed to be. So with this reasoning , in my country; white, blue eyes people are claiming land in national parks, with the only fact that they “feel as Native American”, and live in tribes as long as the get the land; then they sold the land and continues their journey feeling as Native American in another usurped land. Anfd be way, this lady is far more white-pink than I am.
I"m confused. She reiterated that she's not claiming to be part of a tribe. The lawyer, trained to speak and hear clearly, is really doing a disservice to all lawyers, and is intent on not hearing this. Warren hasn't claimed to be culturally Native American. She's stating that some of her ancestors are Native American. Nothing can ever take that away.
I agree, she had nothing to be apologetic for, she was just stating facts
Tara H. my son's girl just took a DNA test that revealed that she was part Native American, rather than Mexican. We were all surprised, and never felt she was attempting to ignore beliefs of lineage from the view of a Native American. When listening to Ms. Warren, it sounds as if she has heard this family story over and over again. If her story is true, it would certainly explain why her family was not affiliated with a tribe, as her parents were disenfranchised from both sides.
Rather than focusing on something that, by your explanations would require an apology only, I think it would better serve your people to demand that she (Warren) step up and get assistance for the North Dakota Native Americans who are being denied the right to vote... she could get volunteers and equipment to get everyone "registered to vote", and demonstrate that she really does stand for the Native American people... unlike mr t's wife, who said "they should go back to where they came from... India."
There are more than just this video of people asking for an apology
"my son's girl just took a DNA test that revealed that she was part Native American, rather than Mexican."
That's not possible because these tests are not that precise.
"In terms of the science, one of these so-called Native American markers are found exclusively in Native people. They are not found exclusively in one tribe or another. The very fact that 23andme was able to use populations that are found in what is today Latin America tells you that those markers are not found discreetly in one tribe or another. All of the people that have Native American markers today are people who are descended from a handful of 'ancient' Native Americans and we’re all related, of course, across the continent, just like humans around the world are ultimately genetically related."
theslot.jezebel.com/our-vote-matters-very-little-kim-tallbear-on-elizabeth-1829783321
LOL You beat me to the punch! I was gonna type the same reply! Mexican is just a "Nationality". p.s...you forgot to add African! Many Mexicans have African ancestry, although they try to hide it. ("Keep Your Grandmother in the closet").
Wait a minute, those Native Americans are being denied the right to vote? But they'll let illegal people from south of the border vote? OMGWTF. If ANYONE deserves to vote and have a super high voice in america's politics, it's native americans, no matter what tribe they come from.
But doesn’t explain her using it to get minority status
Deb Haaland had exactly the right response.
Thank you!!
No she didn’t. She should have called Warren out for being a fraud. Why indulge in her fraudulent claims? She is a white woman...period. The only reason anyone is coming to her defense is because she’s battling Trump. If it was anyone else calling her out, and she released this bogus dna test, she would get raked over the coals.
J W No, if there had been no possibility that she had Native American DNA that would have been true, but she has not lied at all. She has faithfully told her family’s story as it was told to her, and only had the testing to shut Trump up, who, apparently doesn’t care anyway, in spite of bringing it up every time he refers to her. The tests show evidence that she has some kind of connection to native Americans, so that is not proof that she lied. So who here is the liar again?
I love how we infight over tiny things. trump only cares that he humiliates people who he sees as lesser things.
let us aim our barbs at our actual foes
I live in Deb Haaland's state. Haaland is a moron. Green, red, blue, purple, white, doesn't matter, Haaland is an idiot.
She ain’t no native !
Where are all the videos of Cherokee Nation talking about trump's comments
Timothy Johnson people rail on trump 24/7. Where have you been? Warren claimed something she had no right to. Trump called her out on it. We should be thanking Trump for exposing the fraud.
try reading the question again
They are all white Republicans, so they won't say shit about Trump.
Or is the question, why haven't more Native Americans been asked?
newrepublic.com/minutes/151118/trump-cant-stop-insulting-native-americans
www.axios.com/native-american-leaders-say-trumps-pocahontas-remark-was-slur-1513307204-a5c1b4ca-9c02-4005-a3e4-97c536e55ea0.html
www.cbsnews.com/news/native-americans-respond-to-trumps-pocahontas-comment/
" Cherokee Nation "
Sounds like a typical American story. Senator Warren has been a leader for decades. Can't we get together on this one? We have a country filled with states, commonwealths, territories, and native American nations.
van a dulles she’s been a law professor and a politician. She’s has never been a leader. She’s a white woman who claimed something she had no right to.
Pocahontas (warren) is a fraud fake and evil...she needs to be locked up!!!!
So disappointed in the direction this story took.
So? This story isn't about you, Lori Anne.
@@geetee2392 so? Her disappointment wasnt about you, gee tee. Nor is the direction this story took about anyone in this comment section. now my disappointment is directly about you and your utterly dickish, backwards logic.
Ezra Fickov
Oh, well, I feel so put in my place, Ezzy. How could I best convey to you my despair at being so utterly shamed? How about my original reply wasn't to you so how about you go fuck yourself? Yup, I believe that was eloquent enough.
I'm shock ! A democrat lied??? I will NEVER vote for ANY democrat again!! Ok I never voted for any democrat since I started voting in 1980. Still I will NEVER vote for ANY democrats
I am Metis - meaning that in my ancestry I have great grandparents numerous times removed (about 6-10 generations, similar to Warrens) who were Aboriginal. DNA however cannot tell me what my family history does because of the way the tribes actually worked hundreds of years ago. When there was a war between tribes, or between a tribe and Europeans, there would be what amounted to POWs. These people would be taken and assimilated into the tribe. They would be adopted or married off to members of the tribe and for all intents and purposes become a member of that tribe and now considered an Aboriginal. So the "pure" Aboriginal bloodline is not even remotely "pure" - just like the "white" European bloodline is not even remotely pure. You cannot tell if someone has Aboriginal blood in them, unless they have a very, VERY detailed geneaology that specifies each and every member of their family and know EXACTLY what race the member of said family was - which, frankly, how many people actually CAN detail their geneaolgy that clearly and with that much certainty beyond perhaps 6 generations (and if you think that is enough to "prove" your "pureness" you need a refresher in genetics)?
The DNA test is ridiculous - but then, so is Trump's assertion that Warren's family's history is a lie (as is the Native American's response to anyone that DARES be proud of their own Metis (and it IS Metis) heritage). There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with claiming your Metis heritage. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being DAMN well proud of it. I don't have to officially belong to a tribe today to know that my ancestors did several generations ago. I don't have to be embarrassed or cowed by Aboriginals who ARE officially a part of a tribe today, simply because my ancestors fell in love with the people they fell in love with, and lost their Aboriginal status because of that (and that is the ONLY reason I don't have my status today - because women who married outside the tribe were STRIPPED of their status, but men who did brought their new NON-NATIVE wives into the tribe), because if they hadn't - I wouldn't be here today. To be ashamed of our ancestry is to be completely and utterly disrespectful to the people who are responsible for us being here today.
Hear, hear !!
Oh my too much truth for the ignorant..
The problem is the BENEFITS SHE RECEIVED! It’s not like she just said o I have some somewhere in my lineage & dropped it as any American that can trace their family more than a few generations in the USA can find a drop of “Native” blood in their lines the issue becomes an ISSUE when she is marking it as her nationality on applications when she uses it to get a JOB AT HARVARD when she pops it out when it’s beneficial & then turns it off! She’s yet another “pale skin” claiming something that doesnt belong to her! & quite frankly it doesn’t belong to you either unless you have a DIRECT lineage or have been RAISED in a tribe you don’t just get to become a part of a millennia’s old culture that is disappearing at a scary rate & is NOT JUST A SHOW FOR NON-MEMBERS! Being a member of a tribe MEANS SOMETHING! It holds a very big part of our identities it is about tradition & customs & is a very special part of we are as ppl & nobody gets to just spout of the mouth cuz they have some blood! It’s not BLOOD THAT MAKES YOU A FIRST NATION PERSON ITS A history it’s a family way of being that is very difficult for outsiders to fully grasp & that is why when a tribal member married outside the tribe if they LEFT they became a part of their spouses “tribe” if they STAYED their spouse became a part of their tribe & just FYI women who married outside the tribe were not stripped of anything EXCEPT AS IT PERTAINS TO INHERITANCE THAT WOULD AFFECT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE they were always welcomed back but if they lived OUTSIDE THE TRIBE then their children wouldn’t be considered a member of the tribe because as I said there are customs & traditions that happen WITHIN a tribe so if your not LIVING with the tribe it was very difficult to “live in 2 worlds” so for the sake of the offspring OUTSIDE the tribe they were not considered members but would still have been welcomed by the family! & I can tell you this not based on any folklore but as a LIFE EXPERIENCE being raised inside a tribe with family members that have left the tribe! Which in itself can be a very difficult thing spiritually as you feel like something is missing! I have cousins that have came home to the tribe as adults that had struggled in the outside “USA” community & are thriving in their native community! We still love the ones that aren’t raised with us it’s just a different upbringing!
Amen.. the Creator put our DNA in us to embrace. The memory in our blood from ancestors make us strong. I've been taught that you never stop being First Nations, whether a person is Metis or has distant ancestry, the feeling of our being connected to that and other ancestry is all part of the drum given to us. To say Elizabeth's drum should not be listened to is racism via assimilation and imposing something onto us that doesn't belong to us. And it's slamming the Creator.
@@crystalmcqueen4296 so there is a native privilege entitlement and benefits.. Oh did realize tbe native nations was sooo disenfranchised.. This proves one thing.. Hypocrites. Oh there's native benefits.. There's farm worker benefits there's benefits for mothers there's benefits for minorities... What happened to us being equal.?
Warren has not done anything wrong she just wanted to prove she has native american heritage. That's all, no tribal affiliation.
What is wrong with that.
Go back to the beginning she has claimed tribal affiliation. This didn't materialize out of nothing.
SHE LIED ON HER COLLEGE PAPERWORK DECADES AGO! That is a serious problem for her nitwit.
Bah Bowel what ever her mother was she is as well. my mom was high yellow which means she had a lot of white blood in her. my dad was HY as well. Between the two of them I probably have (I hate to say) more white dna then black. both of my GF were dark as cole, Opposites attract.
Bah Bowel 1/280% its still in there. Even if you keep marring Caucasians till dna chges it's still in your 🌳 which means it's always apart of you. Funny Caucasians say for blks it 1 drop, with Indigenous Americans u can wash it out w Caucasian blood. exception #44 50/50 and those white folks were saying to myself, a AA, on kock bros, huckabee PACs " you know he's not blk, his mother was as white as I am." They forgot all about the 1 drop rule w #44. I hate that a lot of my brother and sisters fell for it.
Natives hate it when White people claim heritage. There are many Uncle Tom Natives out there who hate anyone trying to call themselves Natives.
My love and respect to the Native People but a person cannot change where they come from. Things are the way they are!! Elizabeth is what she is, it is her story, it is her life and she has every right to tell it the way she sees it!!! She never meant any disrespect, on the contrary!!! Some of us embrace our past, while others are ashamed of it!! DO NOT try to make more out of it than it is!!!
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She played it for college funding & a political edge. My children are 60% native & don’t qualify for any funding because they don’t have a tribal membership number.
In African and I’m team native I stand with my brothers and sisters ✊🏾💪🏾🙏🏾
Lil Howard natives are not your brothers and sisters lmfao what are you saying
Claudia mariani he wa tryna be supportive damn
Claudia mariani shut the fuck up okay!! 😘
Mehkiya Taylor some people are ignorant
@@claudiamarianidamato9499 fuck you... we are a family
Well madame We were millions of not even americans standing up for your rights when the oil pipeline was going through your territory. I spent weeks writing many times in a day to any one in power who had; to be on your side. Senator Warren has been fighting for the 99% all through her career . I highly disapprove of your attitude when she has spent 2yrs. Of disgusting 44. Trying to insult her in his warped mind. from England.
Most natives in the US today are actually, mixed with white European descent genes. Most of these people have very little of the original native American Indian gene pool, but it has been diluted and polluted. None of these people are true natives. For example, blacks in the US have 46% of White European genes. The same is true for modern Indians in the US.
scretching08 I was with you until you wrote “polluted.” That word has negative connotations and is usually used in context like “1 quart of oil can pollute 1 million gallons of fresh water.” By saying that Native Americans have had their gene pool “polluted” your statement plays in to racist beliefs of “racial purity” and the ranking of one race above another.
John Early While I do agree with your sentiments, in no way does his statement put one race over another. People who care about racial purity could also care about the purity of the races without putting one race over another. Let's call them racial segregationists to distinguish them from racial supremacists.
But we are splitting hairs now.
I respect the native peoples but as a black man in America which has native blood that I can't exactly trace it's not exactly love for us blacks always neither we share oppression and color so let's learn more about each other and counter this hate that divided us as people of color from beginning love and respect for all indigenous people of the Americas
Love your statement.
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Well said! I'm also a so called "black man" in American with native blood, and can't trace my tribe.
The Cherokee and Seminole especially were well known for adopting people fleeing abuse/ slavery et al. Oral history and DNA of the Onandaga (Mohawk) confirm the "blending of bloodlines" with Norsemen. Tribal.
A1g 2 Ville my cousins are part IA. thru their father. they have a pic of their Grandmother looking very IA. Old woman 🚬 a corn cob pipe. My cousin gives 💰 to NA
foundations yet he won't say he's part IA, only black. We've had heated discussions abt it. Or common GM he says was Caucasian, our GF was black as ace of spade. Yet he only claims or African side, but he sends that 💰 every month to his INDIGENOUS NATIVE AMERICAN side.
I can't stand Generokees. When non Native ppl find out that I am, all of a sudden their great grandmother is a real Cherokee princess. It's disgusting.
In native cultures they didn't have princesses. Where did they get such an idea?
@@squigglyline6488 I have no idea whatsoever.
Disney.
Yeah I understand that
I think it was more abut showing what Trump would do. and Trump word. I think you miss the point.
Anng G no, you miss the point. Trump manipulated this fool into taking a test that proved she’s a white woman.
She was NOT pretending to be a part of "The Cherokee Nation"...all she did was display the fact that her mother had some native blood..thats all.
The point is she used it for her own benefit ....most people I'm sure have traces ....of alot of different .races.....she's less then 99 percent native.........take a test you probably have more......native then she does. Liberals like Warren are racist.
Get lost bro!!...and many Natives by the way are less than 20%, many tribes actually..check it out!. I have native blood from both parents, its less than 10% at this point but what???...come on...Trump is the enemy of Native Americans not EW.
I think it is good that we are proud of our heritage, whatever it is, and wish to claim it and explore it. If she was ashamed of it, that would be an insult. I have always been proud of my Native American heritage but I claim to be 13th generation American because the patriarch of my American family came from England in the 16oos. Racism is a cancer and it comes from all attempts to separate, to divide. Should Elizabeth, or any of us who share a similar story, hide it and deny it? Why can't we be proud of it? Where I live we have a monument to Chief Standing Bear, a Ponca native chief, who is sometimes credited with being the first civil rights activist. He made the point: "That hand is not the color of yours, but if I prick it, the blood will flow, and I shall feel pain," said Standing Bear. "The blood is of the same color as yours. God made me, and I am a man. (Wikipedia)
Ann Ham ...thank you Ann so very well said
To add to what T.T. has already said, yes, proof of tribal membership was required and, if I recall correctly, a minimum percentage like 1/16th. Secondly, if she did take advantage of such an offering it may have been on the table because no one else had claimed it. But it would be difficult to explain her lack of proof.
I also want to point out that our ancestors are important to us all and here we are speaking of our ancestors! Should I deny my ancestors--any of them? For some reason, I find this to be spiritually abhorrent. I don't want to claim something that is false, I want to claim something that is true.
T.T. lol No, I think it goes like this iirc: Full, 1/2, 1/4 (still very identifiable), 1/8, 1/16. Only four generations and so not quite pink with yellow hair. :)
@discorperted did you also know that she is the first person of color to be awarded the job at Harvard??? So, she stole that from someone who actually deserves it. Warren proved that she is actually one of the Whitest people of all time with that test lol
Get a clue. She's not Native American.
My grandfather is Mexican. I do not claim to be Mexican. She had 6 to 10 generations back and she actually claimed to be Indian to get a job. This is ridiculous. Oh to all these people on this panel, the direct descendant of Pocahontas did not have a problem with the president callering her Pocahontas yet they are all just so offended. Give me a break.
Why didn’t they invite a representative native of the Cherokee People?
He said "Maury Povich like" 😆 "You are NOT an Indian!"
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She didn't do it to repute GOP claims that she used this to get a job- that was already refuted by a review published in early Sept by the Boston Globe. Her statement that she doesn't claim any kind of tribal membership came BEFORE the Cherokee Nation leader (who himself is only 3% Native American) made a statement. Trump challenged her and she took him up on it. Period. He needs to pay up to the charity of her choice- which was to benefit the indegenous population. This entire "outrage" is ridiculous.
Pay up? She lost the bet...
First of all he is 100% Cherokee. Secondly she has made claim to tribal affiliation in the past.
This is the point of this exercise, YOU don't say who is Cherokee, the Cherokee Nation says who is Cherokee.
@@garyjohnson8327 No, he is not. He is 3.1% Native American. Go look it up. She is not claiming any tribal citizenship of any kind, that clip they played of her clarifying that came out when she released the DNA results. The fact that she has native heritage is an objective fact and has nothing to do with you. She never used it to get a job, she never claimed that she herself was discriminated against because of this. Trump issued a challenge and she took him up on it. Period. Frankly, maybe she should have just named an environmental or wildlife protection charity. It's clear that the native population does not need or want allies.
@@janewright315 if she took him up on the bet she lost it co sidering it proved she wasnt/isnt NA since it takes a certain amount of percentage to be considered so again she lost the bet
@@businessbuilder92 wtf are you on about. It doesn't take a certain percentage to be 'considered'. If you're taking about the Cherokee nation guy, he said they this alone doesn't five tribal membership. The fact that she has native heritage is an objective fact.
Oh yeah, I love love love that Trump calls her Pocahontas. I hope Native Americans don't get upset by this.
It's a joke, 1%? Really? Give me a break.
I do not condone calling the President a pig, no matter whose Tribe one belongs to. Insulting President Trump is not honorable and I do not believe Tribal Elders would condone such disgraceful speech, on the part of a Native American or anyone else. If one expects respect, credibility and solidarity one cannot fall below the line of common courtesy. Whether Mr. Ross agrees with President Trump's handling of Senator Warren's self-aggrandizing behavior or not, his crass remark disqualifies him as a spokesperson for his People and I am certain his Elders would agree with me. Even if President Trump is to be judged based on his often crude remarks, calling him a pig is inappropriate and shows an immaturity typical of angry teenagers, not grown up men. And finally, by bunching everyone who is not Indian into the "white people" bucket only shows Mr. Ross thinks of himself as "better-than" simply based on his ethnic background and only serves to further
his obvious attitude of separation, division and mistrust. I, for one, resent it, since I am simply a Human Being, equal to all other Human Beings. Isn't it time such divisive, self-righteous statements are left in the past? Haven't we had enough of this one-up-man-ship based on race? Frankly, I am fed up with it. However, I'd like to thank Ms. Houska and Mr. Trahant for speaking up on this ridiculous situation Senator Warren has engendered. I hope their wisdom will resonate in the ears of those who need to hear it.
I know poor pig. Pigs are sweet and warm and do no harm, why compare them to trump.
I agree Roberta , he is an obnoxious jerk .
No, his remarks DOES qualify him by his people. If it were not so, then they would not have appointed him. They put him in place, just so that he could say that. you would be surprised... A great deal of Natives from the lands as far south; South america to the North plains and the Natives tribes that still exists Canada, they DONT LIKE WHITE FOLKS. You had nothing to say when trump made remarks of Pocahontas. Pocahontas was from a particular tribe and anyone who is Native or has some familiarity knows that, that is a grave insult to mix tribes up with another different tribe. My children's father is From El Salvador and is Pipil (Nautu Tribe Indigenous of Central America) that is an insult to mix them up with the Clezclatans (i know i spelled that wrong). That is an insult to call Just like someone from Guatemala a Mexican (because they are all latino ). or calling someone from Zimbabwe a Nigeria (because they all come from africa). calling someone from Palestine an Egyptian. Its called culture sensitiveness. Everyone isnt the same, so why group them? And to be in the public eye and not take that kind of care and is eudcated enough to know better shows that He Chose not to take that kind of care. That's what the Blackfoot are screaming about. So Ross clapped back rightfully i say on him and that woman.
Agreed regarding Mr. Ross! So shameful and showed his true colors that he’s still on the Democratic Plantation. Did you notice he caught himself saying his own racist remark against Trump, as soon as he said it? He discredited himself, right then and there that his ‘white bias’ is evidently one-sided. Hope he enjoyed his Spartacus moment, that’s permanently captured on TV.
The same president that would scalp them. 🤔
If you want an NATIVE AMERICAN in office, then move off the reservations, get educated, acclimate and run for office. Plain and simple.
Bravo Gyasi Ross! Bravo to the entire panel. I am so thoroughly impressed with all 3 of you. You all are factual, logical and much more respectable than any politician and 100 times moreso than any media personality. They should all take notes.
When did she ever claim tribal membership? Strawman argument
Umm.. when she was in College twice. Harvard gave her a person of color award. So facts huh??
Elizabeth Warren is for the good of all the people. If she wants to talk about her heritage it's a good thing. If someone loves you enough to want to be part of you, thank God for that person because they will look out for you. The same "Indians" also don't want any Black Indians claiming a native heritage. Elizabeth has been very honest about this and I respect her for that. I think they're being petty.
she looked out for them by stealing a scholarship.
Argyle they did not give her ascholarship due to her ancestry nor did they hire her for that reason. They touted her after the fact but she was highly qualified for the job.
No, she really wasn't 'highly qualified'--by her own admission she only got in by lying about her ethnicity. You're right, she didn't receive a scholarship, she received preferential treatment as an affirmative action student, book money grants, tutorial aid, and a discount on dorm cost...
Argyle BY her own admission? I am normally good at searching things but I cannot find where she said that she was unqualified and only got in because she checked that box.
Those who hired her did not seem to see it that way. Where do you see that nyone said it was what got her hired or admitted? Where are these documents about grants book money and discount dorm counts? All educational and hiring documents found by the Boston Globe seem to show that she checked it on some documents but most of them she was just noted as white. Hirers and admissions offciials show that it was not a deciding factor at all in their decisions to admit her.
Are you assuming that she was affirmative actino because she was non-white? That is not an automatic classification just because you're not a white person. They even noted on her Penn admissions doc that she was a good candidate and hired her even though she was white and they were looking for diversity.
She has SAID she checked the box as native because she didn't believe her grades were good enough. She KNEW she was being touted as a minority. She took advantage of aid that should have gone to someone who's actually dealing with prejudice.
From the clip showing her explaining her family history, as well as the FACT that her DNA test affirms she has partial Cherokee DNA, I can’t understand why this would be offensive to anyone. There are probably thousands of White Americans who have partial Native American DNA, is that fact somehow offensive to Native Americans? I’m not sure how stating these facts about her family history and DNA would benefit her politically or financially. It’s not like she wants to claim a college scholarship based on her ethnic background. Hopefully she didn’t claim to be Native American race for any material benefits because she’s clearly White with a small mix of other ethnicities.
Native American candidate Deb Haaland, who is running for a seat in the House of Representatives from New Mexico -- running her first election campaign. If she wins, she will be the first Native American woman elected to Congress. Haaland is a strong voice for Native Americans, for other minorities and for the poor of all backgrounds.
Haaland is a member of the Laguna Pueblo tribe in New Mexico.
Cree stands loud and proud on the prairies..ask Canada !
I'm cree and live in Canada
@@KiddroArt me too
Yup
Onion Lake Cree Nation right here!
I have Native American from my great grandmother. It is what it is.
Ann Anderson You would be either 25% Native American or 10% Native American. Or in between those numbers!
Same
Let me guess,, Cherokee princess?? I heard that story Thousands of times!!
I got it from my great great grandfather so I'm 15%
Damani Dorsey you mean your great great grandfathers mother because women do not get dna from the males we only have XX chromosomes not XY
What gets me is that Native tribes sit there and say that DNA tests doesn't prove that your Native. And why not? Please explain...
I am from Virginia, and have ancestry in the Carolinas and other eastern states, and earlier in my life I used to hear that I had a great grandmother or somebody or another who was Cherokee Indian. But I have never tried to run around using it to my advantage just whenever it suits. Elizabeth Warren should be ashamed of herself, but then we know these people have no shame and their hypocrisy has no bounds
di it ever occur to you that she may be mentioning it because that story she told actually meant something to her growing up.
@@mrose6107 So, this woman, who is by her own accord, so smart, just decided to repeat something, something she definitely used to her own benefit, financially, without checking in to it? That would be like me telling a police officer that I'm not guilty of speeding because my speedometer doesn't work. She is a liar, and she got caught that time. You can't say I'm not guilty of that because I didn't know. If she was going to receive a financial benefit from it, then she should have made sure it was true. And people vote for a liar like her, a fraud, makes you wonder
The gentleman at the and was speaking straight facts. I like how he broke it down.
if it wasn't for the casinos and the threat of having to share their profits they would have been proud to have Warren as part of their tribe.
As a Salish (Cowlitz, home tribe) and Arapaho native if I had a dollar for every blonde haired person who told me "my great great grandmother was a Cherokee princess" I'd be rich! Hella rich. Whats their deal with Cherokees? Its never Tempi, dine, crow, cree... always Cherokee..
And this is the problem, in the Earth. Everyone is resisting the Truth. Elizabeth in the video is clearly stating that she is not claiming Tribe affiliation, but some in her DNA. As a Puerto Rican Taino-Tolteca, I knew my grandfather and my mother's grandparents side of Native American blood. But, also, the side of the old world blood. As a Puerto Rican, I have lived all my life with racism in both sides of the family. By both of the races. I thank my Great Spirit that it showed me the truth about Love, and I love them all. Just like some fools in the USA say, we losing our Country. Now I am seeing the same feelings we these people. I know my DNA has Taino-Tolteca blood, and I know my blood has DNA from Europe. My son-in-law the other day told me in the car, your daughter did a DNA test and she is 35 percent Native American. She is also half Korean and her mother's grandfather was from China. My son-in-law is also Chinese. I laughed and said, she is a Taino-Tolteca warrior. I could see the pride in my daughter's face. I feel so sad to still see my brothers and sisters Native Americans acting the same way as the racist fools we are seeing with Trump. We are one people on this Universe 😐. Wake up from the sleep.
Luis I am glad you are aware of your Taino ancestry. But put these things in context. Look at them from the Cherokee/Delaware point of view.
Amen, bro. "The heart never knows the colour of the skin." - Chief Dan George
Thank you Luis :-)
Gary Johnson , thanks for your comment. But, lets take it from the real historical data. North and South America were once cover in miles high of snow. So, after Lucy's DNA from Africa, people live in the middle. We are all related. That is what I am trying to say. Science, not me, states, that Puerto Rican DNA is one of the best in the world. Why? Because we have DNA from everywhere. I was just a few hours ago in my daughter's baby shower. My daughters and Sons, my son-in-laws and grandchildren. Just my side. We have Puerto Rican (Taino-Tolteca), Dominican, Korean, Chinese, Lebanese, Africa, European DNA and the face with it. I just want you to know how much I thank my Great Spirit, my LORD for giving me this blessing and gift. Our people here in the new world like in the old, have been with the same divisions, even now. We have to put love first, the rest is gravy. The president made fun of this woman's DNA. Her grandmother. She showed that she has Native American in her DNA. We as loving people, have to put reason and Truth first. Always with Love. Sorry for the long text. You take care.
i am friends with a 1/4 cherokee lady from oklahoma and she has the blondest hair and bluest eyes. she is registered and her family is registered. they have registered land and are proud but speak not one word cherokee. my husband is scots irish and speaks lakota. does that make him a lakota? did every body on here forget about the inter-racial relationships with the vikings AND the slaves who escaped from the early spanish settlers? they were as instrumental in making americans american as the first peoples. my own family was "homogenized" and "bleached" until our survival depended on relinquishing our proud heritage. us govt has treated anyone not white as "less than" and it sucks that the current administrations have not improved.
I worked with a lady whose parents were both half Irish and half Cherokee. She grew up on the reservation. She has the Irish skin and Cherokee hair.
I Have a friend who is half native, she looks as if she's full blood, but her sister looks completely white.
My father is Mexican and native American, but I still came out with dirty blonde hair and green eyes.
I, like Warren, was told similar stories about my possible heritage. I shared such stores, fully acknowledging that there was no evidence/only stories, with my Arapahoe boyfriend... He was super kind. He didn't try to disabuse be of these stories, but explained that it's really common for people to have these kinds of beliefs about thier background.. But that bringing them up to card carrying tribal members on his reservation (we traveled there a few months later) would be meet with serious hostility.. because I had no proof to back the claims and because ultimately background isn't comparable to being a member of a given culture.
Later when Warren began making these claims publicly I knew she hadnt reached across cultural lines to test her beliefs and that it would only be a matter of time before she was met with cultural backlash. Also I just feel that using your racial background as a political tool is cringe. She would have done better by simply addressing relevant policy.
In the Black/ Slave's History- since Slaves were not allowed to read- all Slaves had was their oral history to go on. I remember stories that my great ( granpa & grandma) & grandmother told me. I in turn are telling my kids- that is part of my legacy -that I can give to my kids & hopefully they will pass it down to theirs.
it maybe illustrates the problem of the word heritage. It doesn't propose a standard on meaningful connection in addition to the troubling implications regarding what you receive. And most of us are one accident in the maternity ward from our stories about who we are taking on an absurd quality.
@@victorcates9330 -Sorry- I do not understand what you are trying to say. Break it down. BTW-fyi- I do not
believe anyone that was a Slave - WERE born in "a hospital maternity
ward".
@@lueblablacknell711 my take away from Victor's comment was that genes are always inherited tho culture can be lost from one generation to the next. That stories passed down generation to generation can sometimes be dubious.
Some anecdotal examples here: my family had realized that some of the stories handed down were possibly false accounts made by a female family member several generations back, who saw value in hiding the fact that one of her children may have been the product of rape/incest. Considering the stigma that held then and now..I get why she hid this. I've know peeps who have birth records that misrepresent who the parents were (typically the fathers name was what was misrepresented). That may be the maternity Ward issues he was referring to.. Tho Victor didn't mention slavery at all in his comment...
Hell yes, I can now claim Native benefits and job preference with my .01%
So it’s ok for this guy to call our President of the United States a pig?!!!! Hypocrisy!
You don't have the right to tell someone who they can and cannot be if their DNA says that this is where she came from. She didn't say that the test proves that she is entitled to something. She said that she is who she say she is and you cannot take that away. I know that I am because I saw the people I descended from. You can't say you have exclusive rights to to determine someone else's identity.
I am an attack helicopter from the Hopi tribe who identifies as the German Red Baron. Respect me or die.
Coolspirit....my problem with her is...she used that miniority status to further her political agenda. When Harvard law school honored her as a woman of color...this is a false narrative.
So is everyone black then if we’re claiming 1% or less dna?
@@onepunch2310 yes because that is the original man and woman on the entire face of the planet.
@@onepunch2310 giving that this is the only group on the planet that no one wants to give reparation to I don't think you want to be a part of that group.
First Nations have for generations applied often highly-subjective parameters to determining band membership. For decades Native women were excluded, automatically, for marrying outside the band, or tribe. The same parameter was not applied to men. 'Indian status' has become another means of division in first Nations peoples - that sees some mixed-blood 'natives' given full status, while almost full-blood - Indian people are non-existent as First Nations citizens.
First Nations refers to predominant indigenous peoples in Canada south of the Arctic Circle, not to American Indians. People who have no idea what they're talking about keep using the term to refer to American Indians/Native Americans thinking it makes them sound smart, it doesn't.
Is being above 0.01% Native American a parameter? If not, it’d be a could one to add to the list.
@@michaelgarrett7059 people ignorant of DNA think that 0.01% is insignificant and yet a chimpanzee has 98% same DNA as human. So the margin of DNA that is looked at to determine if it is human is less than 2% and within humanity the margins are very small. It should be noted that humans are among the most homogenous species on the planet.
I know for a fact that my great great grandmother was all Cherokee. She is buried in Paris, Texas--separate cemetary from my great great grandfather because he was white.
Does that hurt your feelings?
I think it is very important that we speak to the Native American community concerning people who claim native American ancestry. Elizabeth Warren should be ashamed of herself!!
This is such a non-issue. It's good to have actual Native Americans comment, but it's also still a total non-issue for Elizabeth to acknowledge her family history.
The issue is that she's 1/1024 and shes used her "native heritige" to get job opportunities and progress herself based on lies, she's hailed as a woman of color when she's 99.99% white
Only white people will think Native American issues are “non issues”.
@@elagabalus6948 I wasn't referring to "Native American issues" in general. I was saying specifically that it's a non-issue... that Elizabeth Warren acknowledged her family history.
James Chessman if you don’t think non indigenous Americans parading around saying “they’re 1/32nd Cherokee princess” while actual indigenous Americans are being revoked of their tribe membership for political reasons, while indigenous American women go missing hourly and are raped and murdered while white people play cowboys and Indians for Halloween are non issues you might not understand what indigenous American issues are. If the perpetrator is left wing it doesn’t exempt them from the wrongs they committed
@@elagabalus6948 Well you're saying all that stuff... but the topic is that a woman acknowledged her family history. Which really isn't related to all that stuff. You're basically arguing against DNA tests / science, lol.
He (Trump) made it a spectacle! I have stories about my family history that can not be proven but would be very proud of my American Indian heritage! I cannot imagine the suffering they have been thru
Miss Tara is a very beautiful and intelligent women.
One really good thing here is native ppl are being heard. Huge step.
Ben Nighthorse Campbell was the first Native American member go the House of Representatives. He served Colorado's 3rd District from 1987 the 1993.
DONALD DUKE they said FIRST NATIVE AMERICAN WOMAN...not man if that is what your referencing
Actually, Charles Curtis, Vice President under Herbert Hoover was also a Senator and Congressman from Kansas. Curtis's mother was 3/4 Indian (Kaw, Osage) and he spent several childhood years living with his grandparents on a reservation. Curtis celebrated his Indian roots.
i'm a german by heritage, but i follow the red road, white indian kinda thing, been that way a long time, i don't think warren was up to anything, let it go
She never claimed to be native . She only said it was part about her past. My grandmother and great grandmother were native but I will never claime I am part native because I don't want to be ridiculed by native Americans and white Americans. Actually it was quite common for Spanish and Natives to mix.
She DID claim "to be native" on college paperwork. She lied, you lie now.
@robert howard Not in public . She did on a application. But what does it matter. Trump was the one that made a big deal out of it. I don't really care about such a small thing.
@@samadrid6321 How do you think I'm lying 63 and don't need to lie . Thanks for showing your ignorance.
TX Rick, you lie because you state "She never claimed to be native." She DID claim to be native. It doesn't make senset if she "said it was part about her past," and that doesn't mean she is a native American. This is getting into the weeds. You believe one thing I believe the opposite. Look, this will come out in the wash when you see her career end in the next few weeks. Let's just see what happens.
@@samadrid6321 I said in public so you have never lied to your advantage.
Put natives on dollar bills. That would make symbolic gesture of decolonialism.
I could rock with Ross, but the other panelist imo are missing the fact that Trump is the catalyst and Warren is in response.. Perhaps not in the best taste and I cringe at that ad a bit (I am not Native American lol), but she doesn’t mean harm, so I think the criticism is a maybe too strong.. Either way, Bernie or Bust lol ✊️💯
Truth wins !
Warren's big mistake was in attempting to engage Trump and the Republicans over their critique-- the subject is not too different than Trump and Obama's birth certificate, and we know that Trump loves to talk about such things. The mistake is to further the circus by engaging with it-- which doesn't bode well for Warren's judgement in the matter. And she kept mum when it came to endorsing Bernie, when she should have spoken out-- so her sense of when to talk and when to keep quiet seems to be a bit malformed.
@@Syncopator perhaps, but why would one lie about their heritage to gain educational or political status? ...jezebel - ISH or better well known as swampy Y....
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@Cyn Shaf I agree it was a bad idea from the get-go, and an even worse idea to keep engaging with it once criticism started rolling in.
I live in New Mexico, we are excited to vote for Deb Haaland!
When you say "we are excited to vote for Deb Haaland," do you mean you and that mouse in your pocket that is carrying hantavirus? Because as a New Mexican there is no way in hell I'll vote for that democrat idiot.
ryvr madduck :)
You and your mouse will vote for Haaland because Haaland, like most democrats, wants to give you free stuff.
Wesley, why dont you just move to California instead of ruining New Mexico.
Try to really analyze what happens when Democrats rule your state. California is the world's fifth largest economy, surpassing the United Kingdom and guess what?? They have run the state into bankruptcy.
You will be paying over $4.00 per gallon like California does. Over $850.00 a month in Health insurance for a cheap PPO plan with high copays and insane sky high deductibles for a single mom with one young dependent. Just examples, truthful examples. Plus,
If you dont like guns and want abortions, California is for you.
Imagine what will happen to The Land of Enchantment and its people when the Democrats take over it.
@@powercourageandwisdom exactly! The fucking democrats want to bring California to New Mexico. We currently have a disturbing homeless problem, crime, and many on welfare. I see the long shadow of California reaching New Mexico already.
Anybody with an ounce of common sense can tell the difference between someone with a loose connection to some distant heritage and someone who lives it in the present. An Elizabeth Warren who is proud to claim that little piece of family history need not take anything away from Native people to whom that history is a lived reality.
Around 3 yrs old I met my great great great grandfather in the 70s . When he saw me he called me a greeneyed Gringo and everyone laughed at me so I started crying . Then he yelled "shut up !! Everyone that has a bottle in their hand is Gringo"!! Then he shoved my uncle and took his bottle and walked off...
Awwww. That's a funny story. He didn't want you to feel bad.
My mommy and daddy... is she a 6yr old.. i guess..6yr olds live in a fantasy world too
I appreciate the comments ...my father in law was half American Indian...his mother came of a reservation in
Michigan. My complaint is ..for those of us who are "not" of color (I am Sicilian/ Irish) whose grand parents are
immigrants are taking a beating these days. I believe the more of this racial condemnation toward ANY racial group
is going to explode this country into pure hatred. We are all being boxed into corners due to race.....
We are all people...humans...many have and continue to fight against this "my color vs. your color" I am not blaming you personally...but...lumping all whites as the problem...all blacks the problem etc....is not just....in every segment of society are the good the bad and the indifferent in each society and those causing the issues need to take the heat not others that "just look like the guilty."
When a surgeon opens a person up..regardless to their "race" we all look the same.....but we need to be "just" in our
personal assessments of individuals and note tag people who actually have not part in the problem.
Thank You for listening...
God Bless this Country...and boy, do we need it !
Not really. Plenty of white people still believe they're superior
I don't see why everyone is so upset with Senator Warren. Her family has some Native American ancestors. I don't think she's trying to become part of a tribe or nation - she's just stating the fact that an ancestor was Native American. My kids also have Native American in their makeup and it was several generations ago. They can't prove it - and aren't interested in doing so - because the courthouse that had the records burned down over 60 years ago, long before they were born. But their father's family always talked lovingly about this spunky Blackfoot woman who ran circles around her husband. I think that's great and if people were more inclusive and accepting - and maybe found out that they wouldn't be here today without those ancestors of diverse heritage - they might not be willing to drink the koolaid of hatred and exclusion.
It is cultural appropriation of the worst kind. She has near 0% native ancestry. It's so small it could be an error. It's smaller than the average white american has. Being native american isn't like an exotic tattoo or passport stamp that u can show off to make u seem more interesting than the average joe. They're not a relic or a semi-myth like the vikings, indians are real people that are still alive today.
American Indians need respect (period).
These people r missing why she did this. Warren isnt asking anything
Lincoln Morgan no she isn’t but lies she has been telling.
not about her heritage.
To think that if some of those guests went to Bolivia, Peru or other countries in Central/ South America the ppl would consider them white.
Seems like when it became fashionable, EVERY BODY is "part Indian" pleez.
No disrespect to tribal right to determine who belongs, i one must keep in mind,that the white man disrupted and broke up families. Blood does not lie, i think she has the right to identify in relation to her family history.
No direspect to tribal law.
Gyasi Ross ROCKS! Love you much!
This is blown out of proportion. Donald John Trump started the mocking of her lineage, she just put a stop on the circus the president started. Why call her "POCAHONTAS" .. another point is she is not asking for acknowledgement. This is between the president and her and putting a stop at mockery putting an end to this circus.
The real founding fathers. I salute you! 🇺🇸
They were actually Phillipines slaves from the Spanish. Who together fought the Africans off the land
Make her pay back any tuition she owes for committing a FRAUD
I live here in SC, and have a friend who is a full blood and member of A.I.M., and he thought what Lindsey Graham said was hilarious!!!
No such thing as a full blood