One Of The Most Wearable & Attractive Seiko Divers BUT Are They Too Expensive? Seiko SPB143 & 239

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    In this video, I take a look at the SPB143 and SPB239, two excellent vintage-inspired dive watches from Seiko, both housed in a smaller 40mm case. For me, these are some of the most compelling Seiko dive watches on the market at the moment, but are they too expensive for what you're actually getting?
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  • @Keffin1
    @Keffin1 2 роки тому +384

    I just received the SPB143 for my 30th birthday 3 days ago. It's been a grail watch that I've been chasing for the past 2 years and I have to say, it is incredible. I don't think anybody will be truly disappointed with it. Is it worth the £1100/$1200 price tag? I believe the answer is subjective but the important thing is how you feel when you wear the watch and I would highly recommend this watch to anybody.

    • @jettyung2389
      @jettyung2389 2 роки тому +14

      Very true. It's all about how it makes you feel. Enjoy !

    • @PatrickAnderson-vh7hv
      @PatrickAnderson-vh7hv 2 роки тому +12

      Whoa. I got one for my 30th birthday last year too. That's funny. But yes, I share your sentiment. This watch might be a bit expensive when you look at objective value, but it's got that X-factor that a lot of other watches don't.

    • @lebojay
      @lebojay 2 роки тому +24

      I don’t get the fuss over the price. They seem to me as nice as any other $1200 watch. Enjoy your beautiful watch, and happy birthday!

    • @CalebTBrown
      @CalebTBrown 2 роки тому +8

      Lol. I almost bought one for my 30th too! For me, I decided to spend a little more to get a Sinn EZM 3 which I am happy with. But I still have the want for this Seiko. The design is so clean and so damn good looking. I was looking for the best I could get for the money. It all came down to the movement for me. I couldn’t justify the price tag for a movement that potentially be around ± 30 sec a day.

    • @timemeasured9137
      @timemeasured9137 2 роки тому +4

      Well said. These are an absolute joy to wear. I wish the movement was regulated with 4hz and they should have included the bracelet and silicone strap together. This would have made the asking price more fair IMO. The dimensions and case design is perfect! The dials also look amazing.

  • @robertlyons4333
    @robertlyons4333 2 роки тому +11

    I picked up the spb147 for my 40th at full retail. I had internet window shopped for ages before this and had my heart set on an alpinist but wasn’t too keen when I saw it in the AD. Love my 147 and no regrets.

  • @philw4053
    @philw4053 2 роки тому +30

    Nice review. The throwback to the old 60s design is what sets it apart - I agree with you mentioning the vintage Submariner as a similar vibe. Assuming we will get standard (excellent) Seiko reliability from the movement I personally think it's worth paying the extra for the design. It looks really tool like / cool - and that's what you want from a dive watch.

    • @hanscombe72
      @hanscombe72 2 роки тому +1

      I think this is a general throwback people are loving right now to the sixties. I think Japan in the sixties was interesting to look at. The 64 olyimpics. A welcoming back to international recognition. My shouldn’t we consider this time period as a way to cut through the crap and and get back to basics.

  • @Dragonfly35RacingTeam
    @Dragonfly35RacingTeam 2 роки тому +2

    Recently picked up an SPB145, and I absolutely love it. It feels amazing on wrist, and I love looking down at it and seeing the light dance around all the polished and brushed pieces. Great video!

  • @stiglitz04
    @stiglitz04 Рік тому +11

    I went on the spb213, which is the limited edition “arctic” white-blue version of this series. It is a bit of pity that it was not mentioned in this video. It is truly beautiful shiny masterpiece. I agree that for this price there are good other options to consider, but due to my small wrist size I took this one because this wears really perfect on any wrist size. 🎉

  • @ryanashby2459
    @ryanashby2459 2 місяці тому +3

    I bought the 239 and got the metal band for it. When I wear it, I can't take my eyes off of it. It's stunning.

  • @diydad7704
    @diydad7704 2 роки тому +5

    Found a great case from tokeilab and original dials and built myself a SPB143 and a SPB213 both for around $500,- each using NH35s. As you said it's the look that makes this design standout.
    I may only have about 40hrs of power reserve but apart from that the pieces look and feel great, work well and they even have signed crowns. Love my two 60s divers!

  • @slimbomania1
    @slimbomania1 2 роки тому +73

    No they are not too expensive. Simple answer. The SPB143 is the best release of Seiko of the past few years and is a great bang for buck vintage diver that fits very well in a lot of categories.

    • @zman8340
      @zman8340 2 роки тому +7

      It’s a 600 -800 dollar watch at best

    • @slimbomania1
      @slimbomania1 2 роки тому +5

      @@zman8340 😂😂😂 ok!

    • @dostoevsky90
      @dostoevsky90 Рік тому +3

      Yes they are pretty expensive… is high time we start accept the reality and stop being fanatic fans of such corporate strategies….

    • @stefanotattifrongia3612
      @stefanotattifrongia3612 Рік тому +3

      You are delusional. This is a 6/800 watch. At this price could be a best buy as the old SKX at 200$ was a great buy back in the days. This is better and a great watch overall but too expensive. I can buy Certina DS diver for 800$ and comes with powermatic 80.

    • @makarovmatsumo3125
      @makarovmatsumo3125 8 місяців тому

      Yea. Expensive af. I'm a dirt poor third worlder and I'm happy with a $200-400 dive watch

  • @kevinhenrichs6915
    @kevinhenrichs6915 2 роки тому +10

    I didnt know these Seikos existed, and had saved up for an Oris Aquis, got on Chrono24 to buy the Aquis and the SPB147 popped up in my suggested, and I bought it on the spot. Just immediately fell in love with it, first time i saw it, which hasn’t happened very often. I later got the Aquis, and its a better watch, but i find myself wearing the 147 more often than not, its just to dang good lookin’, can’t get away from it.

  • @EdwardAMG
    @EdwardAMG 2 роки тому +22

    I got my SPB143 for just $645 USD from a guy who has "too many watches" he said and willing to let this one go. I was so lucky and delighted to upgrade from my skx013. OH SWEET JESUS I'm in LOVE with it, rocking it daily. My point is, if you think it is not worth the price tag, or simiply could not afford one like I do, just be patient, there are affortable deals out there. I have seen similar deals but didn't act quick enough.

    • @AIRFORCEFREAK1
      @AIRFORCEFREAK1 2 роки тому +1

      Dude you stole that watch. I got mine for $850 and I was very happy to pay that.

    • @mbrackmann8
      @mbrackmann8 2 роки тому +1

      @@AIRFORCEFREAK1 $850 still isn’t a bad deal at all

  • @altbinhax
    @altbinhax Рік тому +14

    Good review - I like how you steered through the value for money vs the intangible aspects like its heritage, its pared aesthetic, and sizing. For me this is the most wearable Seiko tool/dive watch and a great every day choice where a tuna or willard might be a bit much.

  • @jtap484
    @jtap484 Рік тому +1

    I own the 143, it is my absolute favorite watch! I am a seiko fan boy, but when I opened the package, I was blown away! I did watch this video as well before I bought it, thank you Teddy!

  • @kevco01010
    @kevco01010 2 роки тому +29

    Totally agree with the points Teddy. I'm an owner of a SPB143 and honestly it's been a watch you don't want to take off the wrist. The design language sets it apart from the competition and could easily see this becoming a future classic. Mine seems to perform much better than spec and it's a strap monster

  • @2yugen2
    @2yugen2 2 роки тому +3

    I have an SPB239, and I like it. I think it looks classy and distinctive, and feel you get a fair value for what it costs. The lume on mine also glows bright blue.

  • @bobafett9592
    @bobafett9592 2 роки тому +17

    Before pulling the trigger on the SPB143, I compared it against the Mido Oceanstar and Doxa Sub200. The Mido wore big for me while I don't fancy the beads of rice bracelet on the Doxa. Settled for the 143 and never regretted since.

    • @bwcastillo
      @bwcastillo 2 роки тому +4

      I did the same thing, I really liked the doxa and I was really ready to have my very first “swiss made” watch but after a lot of research I finally decided on spb143. It really is the perfect watch.

    • @basselamjad958
      @basselamjad958 Рік тому +1

      Enjoy your pick

    • @bobafett9592
      @bobafett9592 Рік тому +1

      1 year on and the new BB54 will be the next step.

  • @MHandlykken
    @MHandlykken 2 роки тому +1

    Just got my SPB253. I loved it in photos and couldnt say no when I saw it in the shop. Fantastic design, and my favorite color combination (black and orange).

  • @robertm8401
    @robertm8401 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent proportions and looks for the case and dial as well as the hands and indices and a superb design element: lumed partial index beside the date window. Outstanding job Seiko. 👍😁👍

  • @tywinn5786
    @tywinn5786 2 роки тому

    Enjoyed the review. I also agree on your take concerning price to value proposition.

  • @ollyw2897
    @ollyw2897 2 роки тому +10

    It is a little expensive when you consider the same movement is in other cheaper watches. But you really are paying for the design. I’ve got the brown dial spb147 and it’s stunning. There are very subtle refinements in the brushing and polished coin edge bezel. the size is perfect. They have really nailed the reinterpretation of the original 62mas. E.g The original had big rectangular hour markers. The markers on this appear rectangular but there is a really subtle taper on the 1/2 4/5 etc. which just gives them more breathing space and a more modern feel rather than bulky rectangles getting too close at the corners. A very considered and beautiful looking watch.

  • @jdwxflyer
    @jdwxflyer 2 роки тому +11

    I’ve been wearing my 149 most days for the last 21 months. Accurate to +5 to +10 spd. Closer to +5 spd if I wear it daily for several weeks. Bracelet is fine - I don’t like the divers extension. The Dia Shield coating is legit. To me, it’s worth the price. I keep thinking I want a BB58, but this is so good I can’t justify the expenditure. Great video Teddy!

    • @alexlai2186
      @alexlai2186 2 роки тому +3

      Make sure you like the design of BB58 before jumping on it. I personally think that it is boring when checking out at AD. While I really like my SPB213, and my gone but not forgotten 147.

  • @larsf.4756
    @larsf.4756 2 роки тому +31

    I think Seiko product management is did well with the SPB143 for two reasons: a) They have a winning design and they know it. b) They have built a fan base with their lower-tier offerings that is inherently interested in the design, far more than other manufacturers that would directly compete at that level.
    While people fuss over specs, I think it eventually it always boils down to design and wearability. Teddy was right pointing out the secondary market pricing. It's hard to argue the price if the watch is actually selling at that price point.

    • @maxp5422
      @maxp5422 2 роки тому +1

      Someone who appticiates design this watch is a beauty

  • @julianmoriati4682
    @julianmoriati4682 2 роки тому +49

    I have the SPB143 since October and I’m still in love with this watch. It could be a one collection watch only easily.

  • @Zoyb3rg
    @Zoyb3rg 2 роки тому +3

    Got myself the "limited" spb213j1 and I love the case size, so fr the 6r35 has been absolutely great with +1.1spd, which was my only concern. I could not be happier with it an even consider getting the 143

  • @madweasel9849
    @madweasel9849 2 роки тому +20

    As a huge watch enthusiast and owner of the spb143 i can only say this: It is not worth 1200 dollars on paper but it will probably make you smile like nothing else in this price point. The design is sharp, subtle, simple, in other words great. Quoting Teddy: "This blows everything out of the water"

    • @thenutcracker2921
      @thenutcracker2921 Рік тому +3

      At $1200 I think the only way this makes you smile like nothing else is you’re already part of the Seiko cult. The history of Seiko is one of value and that moniker digs deep in the category this watch is priced in. For $1200 you can get into a Doxa Sub that is an icon in the dive watch category. It’s history is a focused and precise dedication instantly recognized by those who dive in water not spread sheets. Now for those people that watch will make them smile like no other at $1200 and it doesn’t have that “value” stigma attached to it. What’s more is non-divers want a piece of that Doxa prestige pie and $1200 is a fair price to eat at that table.
      I’m not a fan of Seiko because I’m old enough to know where they come from. They were the more expensive drug store watches you’d see displayed in a rotating plastic case with Timex, Citizen, Casio, and Pulsar. When I say drug stores I mean that literally. Seikos were well made mass market watches at a slightly higher premium than the other every man watches you could buy for $30. They never really became more than that to many of us. It also doesn’t help they caused the Quartz crisis either.
      Regardless of my lack of respect for the brand I do believe their design language is solid, if a little too busy most of the time. At $500 I’m not really interested but at $1200 I’m offended. I don’t care what it says on paper when every time I look down I see Seiko on the dial. That is the uphill battle they brought on themselves.
      Grand Seiko definitely raises the tide for its little brother but they are fighting the same battle at a higher price point. Both brands offer good value at their normal price points but once they stretch beyond that value range they see push back. A GS at $10k is good value but at $20k it’s a joke. Once they start competing with JLC, Breguet, and the like there will be a much different story unfold than their current battle with Rolex. They aren’t winning the Rolex battle but there is much sympathy for the brand. They are doing what they’ve always done, offer a solid value proposition that lacks full on status and prestige carried by their higher priced counterparts. That is their 100 year old game and it not only brought them success but cemented their place as a cheaper alternative to watches we really want.

    • @linds6609
      @linds6609 День тому

      ​@@thenutcracker2921 your bias aside you have to acknowledge the history and heritage of the Seiko company. Yes they made cheap watches for the mass market but they were also one of the first to make an automatic chronograph watch, the first Japanese dive watch, the first automatic chronograph to go to space and let's not forget Credor. I think your bias has blinded you to the fact that this company has been making some of the greatest watches and has a history that rivals any of the major swiss brands. The company was founded in 1881, always been independent, make their own in house movements, have many world firsts in horology and never been bought out by swatch group. How many other watch brands can claim the same?
      Seiko heritage and history is up there with some of the best in the world. But because they make affordable watches for the every man along with some very high end and special time pieces people tend to look down on them.

  • @ba2724
    @ba2724 Рік тому +13

    This series is just about perfect for a dive watch, and I have multiple Seiko and GS dive watches, as well as a few others. Price is a bit high, but the satisfaction to finally be wearing what I've been searching for my entire adult life is worth it. Well, done, Seiko!

  • @SoCalWatchReviews
    @SoCalWatchReviews 2 роки тому

    Great video, the SPB143 is the favorite in my collection ❤️

  • @danielrs9214
    @danielrs9214 2 роки тому +2

    I have the SPB149 and I love it, it’s always competing for wrist time with my BB58 OG.

  • @raypolakowski7172
    @raypolakowski7172 2 роки тому +13

    I think it’s a a super classic design. I think the 38-41mm size is the sweet spot for most people and this fits right in. I think the Hamilton Khaki Navy is something you’d cross shop with this but I’m not a fan of the micro hashmarks on the bezel from 0-15 - which the Navy does have. I love this line and am looking to get the spb 213 140th anniversary shortly.

    • @paulmann8402
      @paulmann8402 4 місяці тому

      @raypolakowski7172 did you ever end up adding the spb213 to your collection?! I find that silver/white dial with the blue bezel to be the most attractive but I can’t seem to find many available. Certainly not at a Seiko AD

  • @wendyandgeoffpattison2610
    @wendyandgeoffpattison2610 Рік тому +1

    I think these are the best tool/dive watches out there. You're right T.B., great sizing, neat, understated looks, good movement. What's not to like? And a reasonable price. Would look good on a "J" style bracelet to give it a little bling. Good review Teddy. Thanks.

  • @andrewtaylor9799
    @andrewtaylor9799 3 місяці тому

    Good video; thanks for pointing out the alternatives from Mido and Certina.

  • @chazzcombs
    @chazzcombs 2 роки тому +2

    I'm not a Seiko fanboy by any means, but my 143 is one of my favorite pieces in my collection. It's very versatile and goes with pretty much everything. It also looks great on most any strap I put it on. I'd recommend it to anyone shopping in the $1K price tier.

  • @ianburgess5714
    @ianburgess5714 Рік тому +1

    I've owned the SPB143 for a year or so and love it. Looks great on my smaller wrist, the grey/charcoal dial & understated vintage look is what I was after. There's no way I'd jump in a lake, or off a boat at anchor wearing a Submariner, with the Seiko, while pricey, I don't find I think twice when summer rolls around. I'll be honest, I haven't been diving in years, so the wet suit extension doesn't matter that much, nor even does the nicely engineered feel of the bezel. For a slightly smaller, understated, reassuringly retro look dive Watch that wears super comfortably this is hard to beat.

  • @DocWat280
    @DocWat280 2 роки тому

    The look is what makes this watch. Big shout out to your camera man. The still shots of both watches are on point! The pictures could defiantly be sold on their own.

  • @capobello
    @capobello 2 роки тому +11

    I pulled the trigger on the 143 last month. I can attest to the movement being around around +4 to +6 seconds a day for me after a month's worth of daily wear. I absolutely love this watch! absolutely brilliant move by seiko and worth the price

  • @jonahlochard4701
    @jonahlochard4701 2 роки тому +1

    I just bought the spb153 this week. I debated on getting the spb143. After wearing it all this week it has consistently gained 3 seconds per day. Compared to my Hamilton it’s just as good from a time keeping prospective. They aren’t for everyone, but I think they’re a good value for money

  • @dale.gallaza
    @dale.gallaza 2 роки тому +1

    Fell in love with 143 at first sight. It was the last watch i bought so far. Never added to my collection for a year now.

  • @TheCdM1981
    @TheCdM1981 Рік тому +2

    The 68 remaster (MM200) is a much more well rounded looking watch. Especially when it comes to size. Really comes down to whether you like a smaller case as both are not big. Especially lug to lug.

  • @glocjt
    @glocjt 2 роки тому +4

    I bought my SPB149 just about two years ago, and if we want to be objective about it, I think the pricing is just a bit dear for a Seiko. But as Teddy said, for a Seiko fan such as myself, it's basically catnip. I've worn it day in and out (over about a dozen other watches) for the vast majority of the last two years. It wears amazingly on my 6.25" wrist, and is an utter strap monster. It's on a Scurfa rubber strap right now as I'm doing the dishes. 😂
    That said, my sample did come out of spec - it was losing 16-17 seconds per day. Seiko took care of it on warranty, of course, but just be aware that Seikos do have a wide variance on timekeeping precision.
    All this by way of saying - it's been worth every penny to me, and if I lost my 149 for whatever reason, I'd replace it with a 143 in a heartbeat.

  • @chewbster
    @chewbster 2 роки тому

    I have not exactly this but the very similar Boutique Exclusive SPB145 fell in love with it since first trying it on. More than worth it as I get giddy every time I see it 🥰

  • @robh.2400
    @robh.2400 2 роки тому +4

    The SPB143 is one of my absolute favorites in my collection. The proportions are excellent, and it has a beautifully purposeful look to it.

    • @stephenscharf6293
      @stephenscharf6293 3 місяці тому

      It’s also the “strap monster of strap monsters”. 😺It looks great with ANY strap. I usually wear mine on Sophie’s ribbed NATO straps from CNS, but it looks really great on any strap. Really a beautiful, versatile watch.Cheers.

  • @ajiebkp
    @ajiebkp 2 роки тому

    Picked up the SPB147 back in 2020, what I like about it is how good the coating is. Bumped it to a lot of things and still no visible scratches. Though at times I felt frustrated by the movement. It gains 20 sec a day since I bought it. It would have been a perfect tool watch had it have a better regulated movement (luckily mine doesn’t have a misaligned bezel). Also wished it was thinner

  • @PukaHeadMan
    @PukaHeadMan 5 місяців тому

    Great looking watches and very good review!👍

  • @edteach3r
    @edteach3r 2 роки тому +3

    I am a Seiko fanboy and love the 62MAS re-editions. However, I do think they are a bit too expensive when compared to the divers competition, particularly my current favourite, Squale. Nonetheless, they are beautiful and would not mind having either in my collection. Thanks for another great video, Teddy.

  • @diahndrummond8238
    @diahndrummond8238 Рік тому

    Bang on Teddy. Nice review.

  • @jasondots82
    @jasondots82 2 роки тому +19

    I got the SPB143 last summer, and asked for a discount from a jeweller's and they offered 20% off which I was happy with. The watch itself is a beauty on the wrist, with a few strap options it works for all occasions. I usually wear it on a vintage style rubber but also pair it with a distressed leather strap for more dressier events. Never looks out of place.

    • @matthewdouglas2373
      @matthewdouglas2373 2 роки тому +1

      I’d feel really strange asking for a discount on something expensive (I’m new to the watch world). Could you explain how you asked?

    • @jasondots82
      @jasondots82 2 роки тому +5

      @@matthewdouglas2373 Just ask what's the minimum price they could sell it for, all prices advertised are "RRP" but most jeweller's will have an allowance to sell it cheaper, just have to ask.

    • @matthewdouglas2373
      @matthewdouglas2373 2 роки тому +1

      @@jasondots82 thank you, I’ll try that

  • @matthewjordaan5023
    @matthewjordaan5023 2 роки тому +14

    I bought myself a 143 when I graduated university... It's the perfect 1 watch collection and I love it to bits...
    Its a strap monster too. They grey dial takes on the personality of any strap making it incredibly versatile.
    I'd buy another in a heartbeat. Definitely a killer watch

  • @Airjayhawk
    @Airjayhawk 2 роки тому +1

    I have the 147 and after 2years it still has me saying wow. I bought a strapcode jubilee and it’s a keeper watch. The main complaint you will see is about the movement but I don’t wear this every day of the week so I reset it constantly regardless so I really couldn’t tell you what the movement loses nor do I care. My other main watch is a speed master and I’ll be honest I think the qualities are comparable and the movement of the speedy isn’t 4K better than the seiko so it all comes down to semantics…buy what you like and enjoy!

  • @tomhohum4275
    @tomhohum4275 2 роки тому +1

    I love GS but for a diver ( a style I’m not into) I made a choice to get a Zelos Spearfish. The narrower bezel is more to my liking

  • @MrCROBosanceros
    @MrCROBosanceros 2 роки тому +2

    Recently I bought my "affordable" grail diver watch, Seiko SPB053. One of the most beautiful watches ever made. Slightly bigger and very similar to these two watches.
    I actually prefer heritage diver watches more than modern pro divers like Seiko Marinemaster. The last time I had a mechanical watch was back in 1985 and it was Seiko 5.
    I was pleasantly surprised by how accurate this watch is. I was losing about two seconds in two or three days. I can only imagine how good movements are in Grand Seiko, Omega, and other high-end watches. Unfortunately, my watch already stopped working after only six weeks since I bought it so the seller had to return it to Seiko for service. He told me that most likely Seiko will just install a new movement. I just hope it is going to be accurate as the original was. So please don't complain about Swiss watches, the Japanese became sloppy as well.

  • @Jin6161
    @Jin6161 2 роки тому +2

    The SPB143J1 was my grail watch, as I can not justify to spend money on Rolex, Grand Seiko, Omega or other luxury brands. I got it brand new for under 800€ and I have to admit, it is probably my most worn watch ever since and became my favorite in my collection. The design, size, finishing and wearability really apply to me and it scratches my Rolex Submariner itch being a really good "affordable" alternative with its own design and history. I really love this watch.

  • @RobertOrtiz1015
    @RobertOrtiz1015 2 роки тому

    Great video like always! I would love to see your take on the baby MarineMasters 200 series… i think they are probably the best value seiko diver with amazing finishing and great size!

  • @dmitrii1255
    @dmitrii1255 Рік тому

    Got my SPB149 for aprox 1200 usd, second hand in great condition, and absolutely love it . In my opinion the case is awesome and classy and the blue dial makes it more interesting to compare with SPB143. However, it still looks nice in the office. Not screaming, but smart and elegant. Not the watch to show off, but to enjoy if you like the style.

  • @ThePlaiibox
    @ThePlaiibox 2 роки тому +1

    I've managed to pick thus and the willard up in the UK for about £700 each in Jan sales. That's about where they should be imo. Also got an mm200 in blue new for £580. Just shop around, I've never paid rrp for a seiko, longines, ball or tudor.

  • @watchchimp3102
    @watchchimp3102 2 роки тому +41

    I have the 239, it took me a long time to pull the trigger, but it has met or exceeded my expectations. The bezel action is very nice, the proportions are spot on and I really like the two straps it comes with. Indeed the challenge I find is to not wear it all the time. It succeeds at looking old and brand new at the same time.
    It stands out, by not standing out!
    It's almost a cliché that average people don't notice our watches, but this one? I get compliments on frequently. I get a chuckle out of people complaining about gaining 3 seconds a day! 🤣 Seriously? If you're concerned about a mechanical watch gaining 3 seconds a day you've got serious issues that aren't watch related. IMHO Seiko hit a home run here, as evidenced by the fact the mine is still selling for pretty much what I paid for it!

    • @fakenewsisthenews3542
      @fakenewsisthenews3542 2 роки тому

      You should write copy🤣

    • @Escotch77
      @Escotch77 2 роки тому

      Give it a year... the 6r15s went to crap after a year or so and the watchmakers I have talked to that have worked on both the 6r15 and 6r35 say they are just garbage movements. My skx is 10x more accurate than my sbp 6r15 after a year. It is a $40-60 movement in a $1200 watch. My 6139 is much better han both. Sadly I feel seiko has lost their way.

    • @timemeasured9137
      @timemeasured9137 2 роки тому

      Well said mate 👍👍👍 I own the 143, 147 and 213 and love them all. It’s got the X-factor.

  • @davidlocky8227
    @davidlocky8227 Рік тому +8

    I purchased both of these models and while both have compelling dials, the 239 has a little more contrast and oomph, if you will. Had to return the 143 due to dust on the dial but would still consider one in the future, as well at the 149. The Seichu natos are a lot of fun to wear, though I also have the bracelet incoming. Both bezels were perfectly aligned.

    • @13Tyres
      @13Tyres 2 місяці тому +1

      Do you still have the 239? Is it a keeper because I’m thinking about pulling the trigger.

    • @davidlocky8227
      @davidlocky8227 2 місяці тому

      @@13Tyres, yes, and I still enjoy wearing it. Check out the SPB455 Anniversary version before purchasing, as it's a nice new version, though with a little extra gold.

    • @13Tyres
      @13Tyres 2 місяці тому

      @@davidlocky8227 Will do. Thanks.

  • @berare777
    @berare777 Рік тому

    Wife gave me a Seiko SPB147 as my birthday presente.
    It’s my first Seiko. I was expecting to get another Swiss dive watch. Went to my dealer, but they did not have the size of the model that I had in mind. So I started to look at Seiko section, and fell in love with the SPB147.

  • @d.kashani
    @d.kashani Місяць тому

    I love this watch so much. I recently “upgraded” to the sje093 which is really well finished but it doesn’t replace my Spb.

  • @NWA_1919
    @NWA_1919 2 роки тому +1

    I have the spb149, bought it for msrp when it launched. Totally worth it imo.

  • @avip671
    @avip671 2 роки тому +7

    I absolutely love my sbp143, I got it as an engagement gift from my fiance, i love it's history and design and it can handle anything. Only issues is its top heaviness and most of all it does not keep time great, I have to set it once a week. Still worth it though.

    • @EdwardAMG
      @EdwardAMG 2 роки тому

      That's odd...my 143 keeps great time! Maybe you should have yours service check?

    • @avip671
      @avip671 2 роки тому +1

      @@EdwardAMG maybe! I assumed it's just the watch because I've seen reviews say the same thing

  • @maxp5422
    @maxp5422 2 роки тому +1

    They are perfect I've got the 149 and it's my favourite watch wears amazing

  • @michaeltroiano5705
    @michaeltroiano5705 2 роки тому +1

    Love my SPB143. Remarkable watch, really, perfect in any environment.

  • @DannyChau7
    @DannyChau7 2 роки тому +11

    I prefer the golden dial SPB147 over 239 personally, it's very personal, also I already have chrome finish dials and hands and the 147 colour is a welcome touch.

    • @edangandre
      @edangandre 2 роки тому +3

      I have the 147 too, it's absolutely gorgeous!

    • @fauver1139
      @fauver1139 2 роки тому +6

      Mee too. I compared both and choosed 147 over 239. Silver hands and indicies are dismatching golden theme of the watch.

    • @timemeasured9137
      @timemeasured9137 Рік тому +2

      Agreed….. the Chocolate dial and gilt indices looks better than a BB58 dial IMO. I own both the 143 and 147 and I have put the bracelet on the 147 and the silicone strap on the 143 and they both look perfect!!!!

  • @TH3N3XTKB24
    @TH3N3XTKB24 2 роки тому +10

    I prefer the spb255. It’s just too hard to find right now. It’s literally perfect

  • @gvnady8380
    @gvnady8380 2 роки тому +1

    Got my Seiko SPB239 pair it with NTTD nato strap, look really nice

  • @Jonas-js2eb
    @Jonas-js2eb 2 роки тому +1

    I owned an SKX and a Turtle. The automatic diver genre wore out for me eventually. I am gravitating towards the quartz side now. new luxury and vintage.

  • @hermanzk9916
    @hermanzk9916 2 роки тому +3

    I own SPB147, SPB213, SPB207 and SPB257. yes it's worth the price. Love them all

    • @timemeasured9137
      @timemeasured9137 2 роки тому +1

      100👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 agreed mate! I own the 143, 147 and 213 (paired with the blue silicone Willard strap) and love them all!!!! When you look down at the wrist it’s pure eye candy 😍😍😍

  • @scottwing9420
    @scottwing9420 2 роки тому +1

    Spot-on analysis. At $1200 it’s probably only worth it if you adore the design. And I do and I would buy this again (I have the SPB213). Of course, AD discounts could make this a pretty darn good value proposition if you can get it down to around 1k (which I did).

  • @JeffreyMcMahon
    @JeffreyMcMahon 2 роки тому +8

    I have the SPB143 and while I think it should be closer to be $850, it has a beauty and charm that defies objective price analysis. I notice that Seiko fans are very enthusiastic about the SPB143, which along with the 3rd-Gen Monster is the most enthusiasm I've seen for Seiko models in the last decade.

    • @fraybentos9854
      @fraybentos9854 2 роки тому +1

      It hints at the quality of the SLA037J1. For much much less cash

  • @milaweitz
    @milaweitz Рік тому

    This is pretty cool release! I have got my SPB143. For Seiko die-hard fan, this is a must to have piece.

  • @carlmullender2941
    @carlmullender2941 Рік тому

    I bought one of these based on this video, I have not been disappointed at all, it is a fantastic watch, some aspects make a few watches that are 10x cost look wanting !! and the design just bowls me over . Thank you.

  • @ericfan9149
    @ericfan9149 2 роки тому +2

    I own the SPB143. It's a great-looking dive watch that I bought mostly for its style and case dimensions. I think for the price it's outrageous that it doesn't have a signed crown. That's definitely a pet peeve. The proportions are perfect and it wears very well on the wrist - particularly if you have a smaller wrist like me (6.75). I don't regret buying it, but truthfully my other watches get more wrist time, like my 36 mm Explorer. I find myself drawn to smaller watches these days, and even though the SPB143 is very wearable and a modest size, it still feels heavy and bulky after wearing the Explorer.

    • @martincommentz8189
      @martincommentz8189 2 роки тому +1

      I do not agree. In my opinion the unsigned crown looks classier than the prospex "X" which the MM300 carries.

  • @simonwood5587
    @simonwood5587 2 роки тому +2

    Got my 143 when they were first released. Was excited to receive it:
    Killer finishing / size / design aesthetic.
    Killer lume.
    Killer bezel / smooth as silk.
    Garbage erratic movement on a good day runs minus 20 seconds.

  • @eddieg849
    @eddieg849 2 роки тому

    This was a very well done video

  • @tripnation9659
    @tripnation9659 2 роки тому +1

    I have the SPB 147 (rubber strap) and it’s amazing!

  • @SgtHooch
    @SgtHooch 2 роки тому +3

    I own two diver watches: one inexpensive & one not. Had I known about this reference I would have not bought the two I currently own (Seiko Sport 5 & Oris Aquis). I think Seiko got it right with the case size. The dial is absolutely the best version of dive watch. I love the hands & indices.
    Is it worth $1,200? Yes, but I only know that now after owning other brand/models. What Seiko should do, it lume the bezel. I believe it would add a wonderful design element to an already handsome watch. That simple touch would make it easier for me to justify dropping $1,200 on it. As a matter of fact, if Seiko did that to all of their dive watches, it would give them a step up over their non-lumed competitors.
    Another great video.

    • @nbcuni
      @nbcuni 2 роки тому

      I want that Oris '65 Glow so badly.

  • @gmotionedc5412
    @gmotionedc5412 2 роки тому

    Agree with you. I love the dims and look that’s why I would buy this.

  • @ryanbrown4259
    @ryanbrown4259 2 роки тому +1

    I have the Ltd ed. SPB149J1 and even with the premium for the Ltd ed. I absolutly love this watch. I joke that this is my budget Sub. It's def not on par with my Tudor BB58 however, for a more rough and tumble wear I reach for the Seiko. Size and specs and that all important power reserve for a weekend watch its still hard to beat.

  • @VMIyanks04
    @VMIyanks04 Рік тому

    I think you hit it right when you say that it’s not significantly better than their other watches. But it is (like you said) based on what you value. I think they can charge more because it is a vintage throwback very similar to the Tudor Black Bay 58, which is what’s popular right now. I want a BB58 but can’t afford it right now, so I’d likely get this in the meantime.

  • @ianmcfly31
    @ianmcfly31 2 роки тому +2

    I love my SPB143. My only “issue” is that it’s a strap monster and choosing which band or bracelet to wear is tricky! 😂 I love the EOM bracelet -unlike a lot of people- and it wears well on Nato or Cordura strap too….

    • @zman8340
      @zman8340 2 роки тому

      Put mine on an artem sailcloth fantastic

  • @ericgrace9995
    @ericgrace9995 2 роки тому +1

    Last Christmas I bought myself a couple of Seikos from an AD in the UK. I got a 50% discount on the white Seiko titanium and a 33% discount on the blue dial O53J1. I saved around £800 GBP.
    It seems to me that while some prices are creeping (or leaping)up in price, Seiko has authorised some considerable discounts on some models. To get the white titanium diver for less than some of the special King Samurai models is a bargain. I get the impression that these discount prices might be because customers are finding prices too high in the Seiko £800-£1200 price range...so check out what's available from ADs( no alignment problems when you buy in store) on sale. There are some really good deals out there.

  • @misterloafer5021
    @misterloafer5021 2 роки тому +4

    Great video, I think this is the Seiko watch collectors will settle down with. While they may not look incredibly different from other divers, the quality does shine through the moment you put it on, it feels well thought through. What I don’t get is why has the SPB147 been so often overlooked over the 239? The SPB147 is gorgeous!

    • @runle
      @runle 2 роки тому

      bracelet

  • @nikhilsahani1619
    @nikhilsahani1619 2 роки тому

    Brilliant video as always. Can you link in the seiko model with the beautiful light blue textured dial.

  • @shermanpeh21
    @shermanpeh21 2 роки тому +2

    I have the SPB213 LE, it's an amazing watch.

  • @criose
    @criose 2 роки тому

    Got the black Seiko 5 field watch with the orange lumen yesterday. Seiko is awesome.

  • @dimitrinogues7966
    @dimitrinogues7966 2 роки тому

    Hi Teddy,
    Love your channel ! Could you give us your opinion about ZRC ?

  • @luispadilla2212
    @luispadilla2212 2 роки тому

    I have the Seiko SBDC055 and find my self wearing it much more than any other watches I have to include Seamaster,Sumbmariner,and Oris Aquis the lume is amazing and last all night.

  • @edangandre
    @edangandre 2 роки тому +9

    I have the Spb147, the chocolate/gold dial is amazing, the rubber band fits really well but I also got a jubilee bracelete to match the vintage looking. Gorgeous combination!

    • @blueday6067
      @blueday6067 2 роки тому +4

      I also bought it. The value of the watch itself is in line with its price. In terms of appearance, it is higher than its price.

    • @foochithsiang9329
      @foochithsiang9329 Рік тому

      Hi I just got spb239. May I know which type of jubilee bracelet u get and how is the color contrast between dialshield coated case with that bracelet. Tq

    • @pippo702
      @pippo702 Рік тому +1

      Got a 147 myself..is there any visible difference between the color of the case and the aftermarket bracelet?

    • @berare777
      @berare777 Рік тому +1

      Where did you get the bracelet from ?
      I got a spb147 yesterday and would like to buy a metal bracelet.

    • @edangandre
      @edangandre Рік тому

      @@pippo702 just a little bit but almost imperceptible.

  • @brenmangood
    @brenmangood 2 роки тому

    I searched these on Seiko's website and love the blue dial version, SPB297. One of these definitely became an option for my retirement watch in a few years. Something around $1,000. We'll see.

  • @ChinSleepCorner
    @ChinSleepCorner 2 роки тому

    I got spb213 (150th anniversary) last 2 month and the movement was not well regulated. It took a month in the service center and now it is fine. 👌🏻

  • @micheldepaula8733
    @micheldepaula8733 2 роки тому +5

    Citizen is re-releasing the Promaster Mechanical Diver 200m “Fujitsubo” this year. It’s seems to be a better proposition.

  • @RedwoodAggie
    @RedwoodAggie 2 роки тому

    I really love this line, and it's been very tempting to sell my King Turtle and another one of my lesser divers to get into one without drawing the ire of my spouse. I've tried on the old and new MM200, the Capt. Willard X line, the MM300, an obviously own a Turtle example. I love my King Turtle, but the SPB143 wore shockingly well on my 7-1/4" wrist. I liked it better than the MM200/300 and the Capt. Willard X. Not only that, but it looked really good. The gray is versatile without being boring black. The one that's really got my attention is the announced but not released SPB297 Save the Ocean model. That may cause me to get out my wallet. That being said, I would like to see the prices about $200 lower. That seems to be about the value added above the older 6R15 based divers, accounting for inflation. That's just my opinion, but you're right that the used value still being relatively high speaks a lot for the quality of the offering.

  • @emaic
    @emaic Рік тому

    Thanks for the review Teddy. Can you maybe let us hear the bezel action when looking at divers in the future?

  • @williamhill7312
    @williamhill7312 2 роки тому

    Great video

  • @franky3fingers337
    @franky3fingers337 2 роки тому +8

    I owned a SPB239 for a while and it just didn’t feel like a nicer seiko. The dial was nice but it lacked finishing, the bezel didn’t line up (of course) and it ran +11 sec per day. If the MSRP was around $600 I would have kept it but for a $1000.00 watch they need to do better.

    • @jakubprzybyowicz3980
      @jakubprzybyowicz3980 2 роки тому +1

      Same here. I currently own it and while it’s a stunning watch (and very enjoyable to wear) it runs around +15s everyday. And my bezel is misaligned as well. I also wish they’ve done a bracelet version

  • @crtzmo
    @crtzmo 2 роки тому +1

    I really like the 239 -- and the dual bands in the box as well.. I've tried it on (twice) at the Seiko Boutique in Harajuku, looks right, feels great. That nagging question is, should I pick it up for less on my next visit to the States, or get the boutique watch with the extended 3yr warranty.. Buying a watch online with a crooked bezel is what's in the back of my mind... But, not IF but WHEN will I get this..

  • @aficionadohiend
    @aficionadohiend 2 роки тому +1

    I own SBP239 and it feels perfect on the wrist. Excellent finishing, good size and very confortable. The watch includes two NATO Straps (very high quality, like the omega straps) Only I wish it had a better movement, because 6R is not very accurate, mine is +15 spd according to my watch tracker app. I think the watch is kind of expensive for a mediocre movement. But I like the looks of it very much and keep it anyway.

    • @Martin-hk1ch
      @Martin-hk1ch 4 місяці тому

      Agree entirely. I’ve had mine for a year and it loses 10-20 a day at least

  • @holgermuller3597
    @holgermuller3597 2 роки тому

    Nice presentation, Teddy, thanks for that 👍! I really like the watches.. The sizes are perfekt for me. I would prefer the guild one on a bracelet, I think female endlinks could be an update. The price....ok, you are right, in the end we pay the price for the design we love, like always.....😀

  • @lafroig17
    @lafroig17 2 роки тому

    i have received mine yesterday. the spb143 is for me the best watch in all directions. very usable in rather all situations. even for an evening in the opera. the watch feels outstanding good on my wrist and the dial in combination with the geometry is outstanding. probably seiko has choosen a price a bit too high. the answer is: the same watch from an brand like omega or so would cost a bunch more

  • @clayderouin857
    @clayderouin857 Рік тому

    thanx Teddy! Hey question for... I really like the style and features of the sbp 143 or sbp 149. Are there any similar options, prefer Seiko but with day/date?? Thanx again! CD

  • @Mandaunusantara
    @Mandaunusantara 2 роки тому

    As a new watch enthusiast Who haven't had a Swiss watch, i almost get one last month before deciding for a Tag. SPB 143 is a nice watch and I think its worth a price. Certainly gotta get one in the future.