Critical Mass | How Much Weight Can You Cycle Up A Hill With?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Lightweight is everything when cycling up hill, but how much weight can you actually pull up a hill on a bike? Manon recruits Hank to do some GCN science, adding weight to his bike until he can’t pedal anymore!
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How much weight do you think you could you pull up a hill? Let us know in the comments!
More than ollie
If I ever get back on the bike, I will be dragging 90kg me + bike
My bike alone is more than 30kg, LoL 😂
Took a 40 kilo bike and my at the time technically obese self up an asinine hill somewhere between Driffield and Bridlington, but I was on a bike designed around cargo carrying so it was probably a lot easier than what Hank had to do here. Spent most of the climb in 26 at the front and 36 at the back.
I weigh in at about 109kgs today. When I go on a cycle tour I have my front and rear panniers and a rear rack pack on top. A rough estimate is about 25-30kg of added weight to the bike.
There is a reason why I have a 42-24 in the front and a an 11-42 in the back. Have still had to get off and push. Any forward momentum is good no matter how its done. If you can't bike it, then you push it, its as simple as that.
The line between Hank's own masochism and the GCN team's sadism becomes ever more blurred
😂
Next week on GCN does Science, can Hank snap the rear axle? We pull the Di2 battery to find out.
hank seemed pissed after he fell
@@mikew9743 usually if I fall its because I’m pooped (tired) here in Alberta. 😀
They might need to agree on a safe word soon enough.
I've done this "for real"...I weighed 128 kg (284 pounds) at the start of 2008, got serious about riding and fitness, and made it down to 75 kg (165 pounds). Suffice it to say, it made a massive difference in every aspect of my life. I went from barely making it up some of the hills near my house to "big ringing" them without a second thought.
well done sir. i vary in the 212-230 range. and back onto weight watchers. really want to get to 200 or less for the first time in like 21 years. 175 pounds is my dream.
Way to go!
I went from 123kg to 84kg in 5 years. This difference riding uphill is phenomenal. Im back at 90kg now because of covid.
I'm very jealous of your achievement. Nice work.
👍
are we going to talk about the quality of the animation in this video? kudos to the editors and animators
It was really nicely done.
YES!!
Ollie does Science. Love that.
Don't forget the kudos to Hank for doing his own stunts as well as the camera work to catch it.
Love how the camera operator’s first instinct was to maneuver around Hank for a better shot, rather than help him back upright. Now that’s a real pro.
A true professional is there to document the event, not to interfere! :) :) The GCN staff are 100%, true professionals!
@@leeoien3645 The first directive.
The average camera man is a vulcan. Emotions don't matter, only logic and reason.
@@billincolumbia *ahem* the 'Prime Directive' 😉
@@woozertoo Ha! Yes!
When youre a 250lb cyclist and you watch this:
"I think i can win the Tour de France if i lose some weight"
At a flint 240 pounds myself, it's amazing how many friends I make when I ride. The one thing they have in common is they always like to ride behind me!
hahaha was thinking that the whole time
235 now, 275 when I started riding summer ‘19
@@amrcncllctble I built a lot of muscle fast so I didn’t lose too much weight. Actually started to gain at first.
I was 300 lb and my average was like 400w, so hell yeah.
Thank you Ollie. You saved me the detailed comment I was about to make when Hank said "The steeper the hill, the greater the force of gravity becomes". As an engineer I can't let those things go.
except Ollie didn't take into account density... The statement 'on a larger planet such as Saturn it will be much much harder' is only true if the density of Saturn is the same as that of the Earth....
As a person of greater density, I’d have appreciated that being discussed.
you did the comment anyways, sweet
How about Ollie going uphill and Hank explaining the logical behind the challenge? 😂
@@peterholmes1307 there is only one saturn so the reference is indisputable
Perhaps best GCN line to date....."Oh, and bring your favourite plant."
Well this summer a friend and I were bike touring from Rome back to Germany. In the Alps we took the scenic route over the Gavia Pass with our 45kg bikes including camping equipment food, etc. Took ages to get up there but in the end it worked out even though we were not training beforehand. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that with the right bike and gear ratio Hank for sure could push those numbers up a lot!
Should have used a child's trailer with actual children screaming "faster daddy!"
My kids: "Why are we going so slow?" "Are we there yet??" :-/
Or the Devil’s coachman wielding a bull whip 😂
And with a nappy filled with poo that needs to be changed at the top of the hill!
I was going to say, welcome to an avarage day cycling in the Rockies Mountains of Canada, as a father of two little girls. I’m 190cm, 85kg, together my kids and trailer were about 70kg, and my road bike is not ultra lightweight at 8.6kg. Total 163 Kg, I have routinely seen 860W range on the steepest parts.
I do that Nordic skiing too!
@Johnny Blue .. lol , one of Danny's best/funniest
I think the real question is "is Hanks bike okay?".
Probably. Bike's limit is 120kg isn't it?
@@taha972 The loading would be different (If we simplify the loading, bike failure points would likely be at head tube and/or bottom bracket), although the additional stresses at the rear wheel (from the trailer) would be interesting.
@@tylerishot12 the wheel handles it fine, one pothole with that much weight though and the quick release is toast. if you keep going anyway with a bent quick release, it will cause premature wear in the rear dropouts, and you'll never have a straight chain line after that. wish I could upload a photo.
Using bike not designed for this. That was actually on the light side for what a lot of utility cyclists will pull and about average for touring bikes with front and back panniers. I had 80 pounds on my touring bike for long rides. So like 40 kilo. No problems.
I'm really happy that you used I.S. units. Sometimes i ride my old bike with my 6 ears dotter on a trailer bike, on some hill it really shredder.
"It's a laugh": Manon, you had me in tears of laughter with that refreshing honesty!
Once again a perfectly useless and joyfull vidéo...that's why i like you guys so much. Keep it up !!
Manon should have sat in the trailer, would be hillarious
This right here. Opportunity missed.
thought the same
Just started riding at age 61 and I tell you, I struggle to get my 115kg up the stairs! I live in Stoke-on-Trent and it's mostly hilly everywhere I go. I find that stopping a lot is what it takes ;) But you know what, it's made me feel a lot better :)
Two of my favorite things: Ollie doing science and Hank doing something really questionable.
Ah, when ‘this’ is in excess of 100kg!! Welcome to my world! 😂 Oh, and Happy Birthday Hank 🎉
I could relate
Over 100kg and my lightest bike is almost 10 more
Expedition touring :3
Nobody:
GCN: Let's weigh 2kg of sugar.
And water, one litre of water weighs one kilo.
All in the name of science...
Don't forget that 2x5l water bottles weight 10kg 😆
@@unixbash I refer you to the second comment! Technically it doesn't though, as it depends on altitude and temperature. Also it only applies to distilled water.
@TheKatanaGuy Trust, but verify 😇. (Should've snuck into the HQ and borrowed the precision scales but Manon's heart was in the right place, unlike Hank's at the end of the video)
Hank, we really appreciate that you're always up for it. 💙 Another banging video
Hey skinny riders - next time you’re sheltering on the flats behind one of us Clydesdales, remember how hard we worked up the hill and maybe pay for the coffee stop 😂
Yeah but notice that we have to pedal downhill to keep up with the larger folks !
@@arrissimouno5127 pedaling down the hill is a lot easier.
Amen!!
We do...Thank-you!!
The upside is that we get to coast down the descent and they all have to pedal. 👍
Dear GCN Team, you absolutely exceeded this time. What a great show! Thank you for producing such quality content. Best entertainment!
At this point they’re trying to kill Hank 😂like cycling Jackass..they had Steve O and we have Hank
This time Ollie dropped Hank with his physics knowledge 👏
@@boliverfridgewater3140 look, it’s his natural advantage, Fridgewater.
Actually Hank was right and Ollie was wrong (except for the rolling resistance parte onwards)
It’s easier to understand in terms of gaining gravitational potential energy rather than thinking of a force. As you go uphill you’re gaining gravitational potential energy (the same potential energy that allows you to freewheel back down). On the flat you’re not gaining gravitational potential energy as your height is not increasing so it’s easier. When you start to go uphill you need to produce more energy per second during your climb (power) which is then stored as gravitational potential energy. Gravitational potential energy is proportional to height gained and mass, so the heavier you are and the higher you climb the more energy you need to put in.
@@duncanlittle8482 Nothing you said there is actually easy to understand. It's a whole science class.
@@Kimberly_Sparkles lol alright well think about pushing a ball up a hill. It always wants to roll back down. Same as when you’re cycling up a hill, the gravity of the earth is always trying to make your roll back down the hill. When you’re cycling up the hill you have to work harder to make sure that you overcome the force which is pulling you back down the hill
We need an hour-long video of Manon weighing random things.
"So how much does 1kg of sugar weigh?" 1kg
"Ok, but how about 2kg of sugar?"
We (I) need an hour-long video of Manon crushing me with her thighs. 😍
@@stubbietubbie You have a pashion for some manonman action then? 😄
@@Sttuey Whatever it takes!
I get the impression there were more bags of sugar originally... the Bamboo plant was also lucky to survive...
Absolutely no one ever:
GCN: Yeah Hank will do it, no problem!
🤣🤣
Hank with bike and trailer - still lighter than me plain naked 🤪
My thoughts as well at 98 kg, haha.
@@aldude9511 Me 98 kg too and 20 kg bicycle.
No it s not electric just bulky.
@RoScFan maybe time for a new bike, a 20kg bike sounds painful
@@tobyreynolds-cotterill9934 It was 17 kg when I last measured it bare. But I usually ride with a lot of extra accesories on it, like water, u-lock, tools in care of emergency, camera equipment etc. So it's not really 20 kg. That said, cyclo-tourists go 1000s of km on 30-50 kg bicycles. So I doubt my bicycles is actually harmful, just an inconvenience.
You are a true warrior Hank! Your demand for success shows when you have demonstrated your willingness to "take one for the team."
I used to weigh 170 kg and I cycled hills up, but got fed-up with it. After watching a lot of GCN Show and so forth, I lost 49 kilos. Now riding should be easier. But now we have snow.
Stuff my buckets! If watching GCN videos makes you lose weight then I'm going to blitz through the whole 419 GCN Shows again!
It's never easier. You just go faster ;-)
@@dimitris.damigos That is what I discovered in the gym. The reps do not become any easier. I just perform them cleaner.
Things people think of when looking for heavy objects:
1. A watermelon.
That was a puny watermelon, go to 🇬🇷 there you get proper sized watermelons 👌
@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος I live in a Greek neighborhood in NYC and this is the most Greek statement I could have imagined.
2. Dan Lloyd.
Survey says!....
@@thelionskiln Lmao steve harvey
My question isn't "why?", it's "why not you, Manon?" 😂
When you weight 108kg, now you'll know how riding up hills feels for those of us on the heavier side.. 🤪
Yeah. I have a crampon my leg.
I honestly didnt know i needed this video. Manon though 😍❤
Thanks Ollie...I was just about to write a comment correcting Hank when you chimed in.
So when will we see Hank's Revenge: Can Manon Cycle While Dragging a Parachute?
Can Manon climb the hill while towing Hank sitting in the trailer.
She be getting thicc lately.
Welcome to my world! I am 6'2" 260lbs (117 kgs) plus my bike. I have broke pedals on steeps climbs. But I will NEVER quit!! Good job Hank!
Weigh in at 112kg with 8kg bike, down from 127kg difference is massive
I'm right there with you.. I'm 108kg
130 down to 117 so far, keep it up!
Because I am over 120kg and I run my bike deliberately heavy, I have to drag 142-144kg up every hill, so found this interesting. Gearing is your friend though and I can still get up most steep hills provided they are not too long with a 16 or 17 inch bottom gear. I am sure Hank could easily have done the same.
Ollie: when you throw a ball upwards, it's momentum peters out quicker than when you throw it forwards. Air resistance and drag are equivalent (no other friction here). Obviously the force of gravity hasn't changed, but the EFFECT of that force has by virtue of the difference in vector of the force of momentum; in one case gravity acts directly opposite the momentum, and in the other perpendicularly, creating increased friction and a lesser stopping force. This is the principle that makes an only slowly decaying orbit around a planet possible. So, it's not crazy to say that gravity increases with the incline; that's shorthand for that the stopping effect of gravity (the act of that force on canceling one's forward trajectory) increases with the incline.
Don't try to undo Ollie's physics pedantry with reasonableness and allowing shorthand, give the guy a break, he's got to score some points somehow! ;-) :-)
Of course this is how Hank spends his birthday. We shouldn’t be surprised by this!
I honestly thought Hank was about to arrive with a massive ganja plant haha
Lmao
You guys need to try an actual touring bike with full front and back panniers! :)
You guys are crazy in a fun way, Hank is a beast, bravo Hank. I'm surprised you didn't break your chain. Luv'd the video.
This is how I feel when on a group ride and we hit the hills... 107kg body weight and 9kg bike sucks on hills..... oh to be 5,8 and 65kgs....
Just blast the flats
Usually I'm cheering for Hank, but this time It's all about the Bamboo!!!!
when my kids were small and learning to ride their bikes they didn't have the endurance to make it home so I would tow them both in a trailer with their bikes tied to the back of it, about a hundred pounds.
Science is never complete without Prof. Bridgewood. Happy Birthday,Hank!
For Sale.. A lightly used Pinarello Dogma F12 Disc. One careful owner using for lazy low wattage rides and dry summer miles only, no stunts or wheelies or pot plants on the handlebars. Frame never stressed with excessive power. No brake squeal. Never crashed/dropped etc. Offers. :)
love the new animation style!
I've just figured out a way to prevent Ollie from getting dropped on the next 4 vs 1
I weigh 120kg+ with a 9kg bike and this is what I go through every time I go up a hill 😂🤷♂️
I know that feeling.
Same here,
Preach!
Yep
It's actually worse for you. Hank was only carrying external weight up hill. Your body has to feed oxygen to those kilos of mass. It's not just a weight penalty, but also a cardiovascular endurance penalty.
Hank could have put a pannier rack and ask Mannon to sit on it, so easily could have added enough weight and also more motivation 😁
As someone who got started cycling with self-supported touring and fully loaded panniers on a steel Trek 520... this made me happy to watch.
I'm feeling sooo much better at what I manage to do weighing 100kg on a > 8.5kg bike :P.
Ditto, even moreso pedaling my endurobike up the trails.
@@makeitwithmurm yes at 106 with full bike load settle in at 130kg
Yes me to, my commute to work bike and work stuff all in 22kg plus me 107kg. 25 mile round trip. This is a good way to train for the weekends, on the racer 👍
I too weigh 100 kg. But my bike isnt 8 kg it s 17 kg and i add a lot of extra stuff on it. 125 kg total.
thank you for this. i really appreciate the actual demo. i learned a lot. at least hank did not slid down. he just flopped on the side. this is reassuring for me when i do climb a steep hill.
Without any added weight, this is the thing the prevents me from going up a local hill with a 20-25% gradient - the fear of falling over in with my clipless pedals.
Welcome to the "Let's Torture Hank Show"
featuring Manon.
Hanks a very good sport, falls over and still being a profession, good to see Mannon running up to help too.
I was expecting Mannon to sit in that trailer at the end... but then she would have had to tell her weight so...
She do be getting thiccer recently.
Covid do be getting everyone thicker lol
I used to bike home from golf lessons (8ish miles) with a full golf bag slung across my shoulders, definitely don't miss that!
Saturn - whilst big of course - has a relative density of
Nice animation, and always nice to see Hank and Manon together.
I did this challenge back in the day, with a load of groceries and my daughter in the trailer, its just called life.
We call it " Grocery shopping".
Utility cycling. The Dutch doing it all the time with Bakfiets bike, people in USA doing it all the time with Surly Big Dummy and various other longtail bikes.
Excellent video....u guys rock. .loved when ollies voice suddenly interjected hanks explanation🤣🤣🙌👏👏👏
Imagine he'd been given a cargo setup with proper climbing gears and traction
This reminds me of my first ever Bike adventure; 1000km through Norway. I used the same Journey Trailer but on a Hard Tail MTB with Schwalbe Furious Fred. At day 3 I had to send some stuff home as it was to heavy for me. And, that adventure is what got me into cycling.
Hank has ascended the ranks of GCN. He is now at the heady heights of the Real Matt Stephens... have you clipped in yet Hank?!? 😁
Nice video, Manon and Hank. I used to weigh just over 129kgs, I'm now down to 114 and find the hills are much easier now than they used to be, without the other 15kgs. I ride a touring bike (it can cope with my weight) which has nice low gearing, though I find I rarely use the lowest gears now.
It's always great to see Hank being challenged! Good work, Manon.
120 kg is exactly my total weight on my last roadtrip...
On quite flat lands. You almost did it on 25% slope. Hope you druk some champaign after, cheers :)
16:10 Thank you Hank, I was indeed interested in your gearing!
Actually I assumed you were using 39/28; but even with your gears, that was a huge effort that you put down. Great job!
25% damn. If I see that sign on a road, I turn back.
I've got a picture of me riding up next to a 16% sign. Dismounted only because I was getting buzzed by motorists. Cheers to the buddy who took the picture of my suffering LOL.
@@SioLazer I tried a short 18% one, and the noise my drive train made, I thought something will break.
@@HarishChouhan drive train was probably fine, it was probably just your knees ;) :P
I put my smallest front gear and largest back gear. Which is like 10-30 or smth like that. I am no pussy.
25% are fairly easy to track down in the UK, but they're all short pitches. I've a 30-35% local one I cross off once a year just to say I can 'still get up it'
Enjoyed that thanks, would love to see a video about helping heavier beginner riders improve on steep climbs. That doesn’t just say lose weight. I have a local climb that I have to stop rest and do as intervals, my goal is to do it in one take. I am fit, strong and 82kg only been cycling a year. Made massive improvements but still struggle with gradients 15% and higher.
i will never get sick of manon
Nice video! Hank experienced first hand what heavy cyclists experience specially when we first start cycling and is something people that never being proper fat (not talking about a little overweight, but who is on obesity and morbid obesity range does). When I started cycling I started because my doctor suggested me Bariatric Surgery because I was weighting 138kg (304lb), that day I went to a bike shop and bought a Cannondale CAAD8 Sora with 11-25T and a compact 50/34 (I didn't know anything about road bikes at the time and had no idea of bike prices and for me it was already an expensive bike because my parameter was like walmart/decathlon $300 bikes), anyway... It weighted almost 11kg so a total of 149kg (328.5lb) plus the water bottles it exceeded 150kg (330.5lb) a full 30kg more than Hank did!
My first ride was around the block (about 300m completely flat) and I thought I was having a heart attack by the end of it! 4 months later cycling following a plan, discipline, diet and about 25kg lighter I did my first metric century, still everytime I faced a climb and was dropped by other cyclist I had to hear "your cadence is too low, drop your gears 'cause it makes easier!" that riding already on the 25x34 gear (later changing from the 11-25 to a 11-30 was a life changing thing), but still nobody that never was actually fat can understand how hard it is to climb with all the weight... I still have a long way to my ideal weight and all but yeah little by little starts to feel easier every kilo dropped...
It's not a GCN does science video without the Doctor: Dr. Oliver Bridgewood
Oil would offset the weight with everything “Aero” 😂
He was dropped behind the scenes :))
.... saying bullshit. His animation was wrong.
As a rickshaw driver in Edinburgh, my colleagues and I used to routinely pedal a 100kg rickshaw, plus ourselves (80kgish) and up to 3, often very large, customers, up the cobbled streets of the old town. When the 6 nations rugby was on and we'd have 3 large lads in the back I reckon the total mass we were pedalling was close to 500kg, up gradients of about 7%
Ok, so we were crawling at abut 3km/h but would have loved to know the power
"What's a crampons?" -That moment when you know English better than the native speaker :)
"Crampon" (no "s") is from Old French "crampon" meaning cramp, brace, staple (13cent) and Porto-Germanic *kramp-
@@professorsogol5824 I don't think you understood my comment... Tell that to Mannon, not me mate 😂
@@professorsogol5824 I'm assuming you didn't watch the video till the very end
She’s Welsh 🤷♂️
@@RaveniusSFRJ It's true I didn't watch every second -- I skipped over the loud music while the footage showed Hank riding up the hill -- not amusing, and I clicked out when Hank said "Give a thumbs up"
Brilliant. It's about time you guys got to understand what us larger riders have to do to keep up... Combined weight of me (105kg dressed) and my bike (9.6kg Carbon Giant Defy) is just short of 120kg. I hate any and all inclines..
I am a long time viewer that still misses Matt. This may have gotten me over it.
Linear regression:
Pave/W = 1.99 m/kg + 228.3/W [R^2 = 0.99]; i.e. each additional kg requires ~2 W more average output.
Pmax/W = 9.63 m/kg - 270.6/W [R^2 = 0.98]; i.e. each additional kg requires ~10 W more max output.
Love it when Manon helping Hank to push his bike by holding the flag....
"Mannon, it's not timed!" lol
Fantastic content. 900 watts trying, down... Off. Perfect video. So that’s me on my fail upto 600 watts large for 30 seconds then. Never stop GCN
(Saturn is mainly hydrogen gas, Ollie. Good luck cycling on that!)
This was a better episode than usual! Love the production quality on this one!
I’ve done the science, 105kg + 30 years to Hank’s age = My world🥵
Could aware these videos more comedy than science😂😂 brilliantly made video. Thanks Manon & Hank🍻👍😎
This is like when Jeremy Clarkson buys something ridiculous for Richard Hammond.
I would love to see all of GCN try this challenge! To see the different stats in riders .
@2:12 "This is Hogs Hill, now also known as The Hill That Finally Broke Hank."
How often when approached with a challenge does Hank respond with, "Hold my beer!" LOL!
We all know Hank is up for torturing himself, but did anyone ask the bike if it was up for that suffer fest?? Poor Pinarello..
One thing I'll say is that because I'm in that 108kg range, my cassette is an 11-40 with a Compact Front Ring. When the gradient gets steep, I'm spinning that 35 or 40 gear.
Actually the pull of gravity you experience does depend on the slope, and the reduced drag has nothing to do with it. When you're in a flat surface the normal force exerted by the ground onto you is what is overcoming gravity, as the slope of an incline increases, a lesser component of gravity (perpendicular to the ground) is overcomed my the ground and whats left pulls you downhill (parallel to the ground). So Hank was right and the animation correction was wrong
Who is going to tell Hank that he should recreate this challenge on a touring bike with front and rear rack, with Ortlieb bike packer pros on front and rear meaning a 140 liter capacity in panniers alone. Add to that a front and rear rack pack with a combined 62liter capacity. After that is a handlebar bag, We can also join a bikepacking setup and put in feed bags, top tube bag and a frame bag. We should also fit an oversized water bottle underneath the downtube. That should be able to hold at least a 1,5liters of water. Then we can move onto the trailer.
Or we can scrap the touring bike and just go for a massive cargo bike. We strap added bags to the sides of that where we can to add capacity and of course utilize the trailer!
Hank and Manon have just barely scratched the surface of this experiment!
Another episode of The adventure of GCN's Guinea Pig
This one did make me laugh - Hank eventually dragged my body weight up the hill! Welcome to my world!
He's a strong old lad!
As a heavy rider, I have thoroughly enjoyed this video. If I can shed my weight I may be unstoppable on the bike!
You will be. I dropped 10kg, hills are a breeze and peeps who had the better of me are now sucking on my back wheel..
Yep, agree with Pete. Dropped 23 kg and completely changed my climbing. Have found a few of those again but heading back to race weight
@@peterlucas5634 Good on ya!
I started doing this to work out. I take my mountain up a hilled street(9 miles, but 5 are flat) and I put weights someone threw out to increase the difficulty. Great and fun workout. Especially with music
I really enjoyed the interaction with Manon in this video, but isn't there a real danger to Hank's knees here? Clearly he did not have the gears to maintain a healthy cadence in that situation - especially that last run.
I'm really happy that you use the IS units. Sometimes i(90kg) ride my bike atached to a trailer bike, my 6 years dotter is 27kg, on the ascend its shredder hard.
I saw that “GPS on budget” 😀 (the compass)
I once drove an old Soviet iron single-speed bicycle(with 622 / 700C x 40 tires) with a brake rear bushing more than 120 kg of potatoes, and uphill. About 30 kg in a backpack, some more on the trunk at the back, and to the trunk of the same ,was attached a wheelbarrow(iron with 2 wheels from a moped), where there were still some potatoes. I drove home from my garden, because of the impending thunderstorm(the dug - out potatoes did not fit all in the car, and to throw the harvested crop in bad weather-it will then be stolen). Moreover, it was more than 10 km to carry, and on the way there was a climb of about 2 km, marked on Strava now as a climb of the 4th degree of difficulty. Well, somehow I got there, even before the storm... Naturally, there were no contact pedals or TU clips there.