rich broke artists; the slavery of the music industry

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  • @WilonaJoy
    @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +17

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  • @dj_here
    @dj_here Рік тому +1483

    Let's realize "broke" is relative. Chloe's broke is different from the man down the street broke. She is eating, has luxury shelter in LA, and has accolades behind her name. Same as TLC. yes they are in debt but relatively it's not horrible if someone is investing in you and your passions. Most don't have that luxury.

    • @daffodil4500
      @daffodil4500 Рік тому +17

      You don't understand. A lot of them are probably equally broke but because they're a brand and puppet, we don't see it. We only know it when hellyweird finally spits them out after chewing them up for so long. In other words, when the fame dries up we see just how broke they've been all along because they're not only financially broke. But they're also morally, mentally, spiritually and in many cases physically broke.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +167

      @DJ This is an interesting point of view. I didn’t think of it that way but yeah; you have a point.🫶🏾

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +31

      @Daffodil 🙌🏾💯💯💯

    • @jalaaaah
      @jalaaaah Рік тому +193

      i honestly don’t think chloe’s “broke”. i think she’s just spending & saving her money responsibly & not trying to live above her means. she’s doing everything an average young adult SHOULD do. especially as a woman who gets most of their work done in LA. you don’t want a house because it’s risky living alone, you’re probably always working outside of it, you’d have to find a safe community depending on your status, it may not be in an area you’d want to settle down in for a family, you might not want to invest in a home until you have a family & just so much more.. her family has always seemed to have a decent amount of money being how they’ve invested into her & her sister’s career since they were kids & i’m sure they taught them how to manage & maintain it. i WISH more families, especially black families, did this. people expect artist to buy houses, cars & etc thinking they’ve made it, forgetting they’re also the sole providers for their family’s & are in debt to these labels.

    • @MissTia777
      @MissTia777 Рік тому +34

      @@jalaaaah Sole providers for the families? Them sorry families need to get their OWN and not leech!

  • @kissmychakras
    @kissmychakras Рік тому +355

    I feel like Chloe’s decision to live “semi-modestly” is a wise financial decision that many of her predecessors failed to make.

  • @user-mb8rf7qk5q
    @user-mb8rf7qk5q Рік тому +324

    I live in LA and pursued music from 2004-2010 and I can tell you straight up, they don’t want you producing or writing your own stuff. Every meeting I had, they would try to put me with writers and producers so they could intercept the money. Not to mention all the sleezy ass producers, managers, label executives trying to get at you. This was before the Me Too thing…shit was terrible let me tell you.
    I ended up quitting because I realized you have to sell yourself to make it. Either give up your body, or your actual voice and ownership. Well, to be honest, they want it all. It’s sick. Just make music in your damn room and don’t envy these artists cause it’s nothing to envy I promise.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +34

      Wow… a singer named Coco Jones said a similar thing

    • @charlottelokinu1989
      @charlottelokinu1989 Рік тому +24

      Jesus Christ loves you and he has a great plan for your life!
      He paid the price for you so that you may have eternal life and life in abundance

    • @user-mb8rf7qk5q
      @user-mb8rf7qk5q Рік тому +9

      @@charlottelokinu1989 thank you for that beautiful message. I appreciate you passing that along to me from above! 💜

    • @__lala68
      @__lala68 Рік тому +4

      I wish Tinashe kept making music in her room as well.

    • @user-mb8rf7qk5q
      @user-mb8rf7qk5q Рік тому +25

      @@__lala68 those Tinashe mixtapes she made in her room were incredible! In Case We die, Reverie, Black Water.. then she got signed and clearly we can tell what happened. But like I said, they don’t want you producing and writing and arranging your own music. They literally won’t allow it for women in r&b especially. They want to put you in with a producer and writers, slap a blonde wig on you, a leotard, and have you rolling around on the floor singing some tacky generic song someone else wrote that you’ll never get paid for. It’s interesting you mentioned Tinashe, perfect example.

  • @TheLovely990
    @TheLovely990 Рік тому +562

    Prince said it best. The only ones making money is the owner of the labels, executive, and writers. Mariah Carey sold over 75 million records, but she only made $500 million in her lifetime. The record company made billions, and still making money. Go independent is the key like Master P did. Smart move.

    • @didierrobert13004
      @didierrobert13004 Рік тому +76

      Mariah is a great example. Knowing that she writes and co produces everything, she has sold more than 200 million records worldwide.. yet her net worth is between 350 and 500 million $
      She was named « the franchise » by Sony and people from Sony. That says a lot.

    • @TheLovely990
      @TheLovely990 Рік тому +40

      @@didierrobert13004 She should be a billionaire by now. However, she lives a diva lifestyle.🙄

    • @didierrobert13004
      @didierrobert13004 Рік тому +33

      @@TheLovely990 I totally agree with you. And if we add the brand deals, the salariés she got from being on TV etc she should be a billionaire by now. And yes she does live a fancy life but I highly doubt she’s in debts at this point.

    • @TheLovely990
      @TheLovely990 Рік тому +27

      @@didierrobert13004 She is not in debt by no means.

    • @tayyibahz9343
      @tayyibahz9343 Рік тому +29

      If they go independent they defo won’t be making money. The ppl who run the industry won’t allow them to be at the top if they aren’t making them money 😂

  • @jemicabond3916
    @jemicabond3916 Рік тому +146

    The music industry is the tale of the little Mermaid Ursula owns your voice for in return what you thought you wanted

  • @bbbbbbbbbb0
    @bbbbbbbbbb0 Рік тому +73

    This kinda stuff is really bad in the kpop industry too.. so many broke, living in terrible dorms and in deep debt.

    • @ikesmith1993
      @ikesmith1993 Рік тому +23

      Heavy on the dorms. I be thinking they making money whole time they film variety shows in tiny crammed dorms😭😭😭

    • @Imadeyoumadddd
      @Imadeyoumadddd Рік тому +2

      @@ikesmith1993 fr let no talk about latina music the view high but still living like poor

  • @OfficialChristinekehinde
    @OfficialChristinekehinde Рік тому +155

    I almost signed a contract with a record label but the thought of someone determining my image and what I do didn't sit well with me. I value my peace, let me do my thing at my own pace with God's help.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +20

      Honestly, that is most likely the best way to go. Being an independent artist instead of being signed is harder and takes more time but, I think at the end of the day it’s worth it.

    • @OfficialChristinekehinde
      @OfficialChristinekehinde Рік тому +1

      @@WilonaJoy Exactly 👍

    • @beatinmotion
      @beatinmotion Рік тому

      💖💝💗

  • @theofficialvontae
    @theofficialvontae Рік тому +385

    Exactly. That’s why I’m done chasing this shit. I’m one of the most talented people I know and I’d rather just post when I feel, release music when I can and keep it moving. The music industry is trash.

    • @NorthPhilly-zr7xc
      @NorthPhilly-zr7xc Рік тому +32

      Facts and they don't care about music anymore

    • @MissTeaq
      @MissTeaq Рік тому +15

      @@NorthPhilly-zr7xc nor do they care about the artist…like sis said it’s not the fifties… if you don’t do something different why would you expect a different result? They feed off of the good vibes and give almost nothing back.

    • @pleshettegrimsley927
      @pleshettegrimsley927 Рік тому +16

      You choosing to stay on the spiritual side the ancestors are proud. Never sell your soul or sacrifice a love one for worldly things. Ye choose the wrong side knowing his mother was sacrifice but he stayed and now he's breaking cause something big is about to happen every person gone have to pay!

    • @actradio94
      @actradio94 Рік тому +9

      @@pleshettegrimsley927 the delusions are wild this week

    • @helloxonsfan
      @helloxonsfan Рік тому +3

      *Yep! I've said it before & I'll say it again... the worst thing to have ever happened to the music industry are the major record companies & the bloodsuckers who run them...!!! Period...!!!*

  • @a_70s_Baby
    @a_70s_Baby Рік тому +178

    As a former Contracting Officer w/the federal government. Read your contracts, clauses and conditions. Thoroughly. Also, it is a conflict in interest if your management, attorneys, accountants and label owner are one in the same. You’re stuck in those 360 deals. Great commentary young lady. New sub.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +3

      Thank you 🙏🏾 💖

    • @marie-francoiset9402
      @marie-francoiset9402 Рік тому

      I'm curious. If theres a conflict of interest, why doesn't that render the contract null & void? why are artists under the age of 18 bound by contracts they couldn't legally agree to? even if their parents signed when they were underage they should have brand new contracts with independent lawyers when they get to be 18. including higher royalties and the ability to own their masters. why are the predatory practices of the music industry allowed? couldn't do that in the housing industry, right?

  • @AllThingsAnime2
    @AllThingsAnime2 Рік тому +243

    “TLC, they are this girl group from like a really really long time ago” umm.. they are from the 90s and early 00s. They ain’t THAT old just saying..

    • @mrs.camilliajones3560
      @mrs.camilliajones3560 Рік тому +60

      Right! I was wondering if I was the only one who caught that and was a tad triggered 😂 long long ago would be a phrase I would use to reference artist from the 30s. Not the 90s and early 2000s 😂

    • @alias4506
      @alias4506 Рік тому +32

      This is the internet age. They’re old!! 🤣🌝

    • @evybabe_
      @evybabe_ Рік тому +23

      Even me I know this group but I’m French and born in 2004😭

    • @itsjordyn6219
      @itsjordyn6219 Рік тому +10

      Lordddd😭😭

    • @cyannhenderson8049
      @cyannhenderson8049 Рік тому +30

      Im saying and I was born mid 2000s, she made me feel old saying that 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @SuchANatural
    @SuchANatural Рік тому +108

    Wasn’t nothing simple about her apartment. Was gorgeous and la is expensive so ain’t no telling how much that penthouse costs.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +9

      Yeah…. It was beautiful…🫶🏾

    • @JustZ213
      @JustZ213 Рік тому +11

      4k-5k for a decent 2-3 bedroom apartment in LA

  • @thecat5819
    @thecat5819 Рік тому +184

    I remember watching a video Karine Alourde posted a while ago about how the City Girls and all these popular singers who might be flexing their wealth through expensive birkin bags and designer items actually are perpetually broke/in debt due to the excessive spending that their careers might require. Honestly celebrity life does not at all sound like it's worth it, at least in terms of being a celebrity through the entertainment industry. People see it as being rich and famous but its not really even real wealth and the fame has more harm than good while you're under constant scrutiny from onlookers (especially in the internet age).

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +10

      This is a really good point 🙌🏾

    • @welikelethabo
      @welikelethabo Рік тому +1

      What’s the title of the video

    • @Luxebarbie
      @Luxebarbie Рік тому +4

      They escort to survive

    • @jt3409
      @jt3409 Рік тому +1

      @@Luxebarbie yes! A lot of these artists are. Beyoncé for an example is a high end escort, although people worship her…At a certain point in the industry it is not about a persons fame or wealth. But it is SEX and what they can do for rich white men. Rich white men LOVE Beyoncé, she’s a household name.

  • @tangemclemore177
    @tangemclemore177 Рік тому +22

    This is why normal people need to stop worshipping/idolizing these celebrities and wishing for their lifestyles.

  • @lakendraburdette2247
    @lakendraburdette2247 Рік тому +61

    People don’t like her but when Nicki did an interview about why she refused to sign a 360 deal and broke it down it made sense. She said something like I can’t just think about the right now what happens when I get 50, 60 years old and can’t tour and stuff I have to make sure I am able to eat off of my hard work.

    • @remyroland8016
      @remyroland8016 Рік тому +2

      Nicki actually signed a 360 deal with Young and Cash Money and Lil Wayne sold all of her records including those of Drake to Universal and Republic Records to get out of his horrible contract but we don't know if she owns her masters again since she's in Republic.

    • @ieatalldayandimstillhungry626
      @ieatalldayandimstillhungry626 Рік тому +4

      @@remyroland8016 This is incorrect. Lil Wayne sold the group records not the solo records so Nicki still own her solo records. She already said she never signed an 360 deal. 360 deal mean that the label gets a cut of everything the artist does.

    • @niaedmonds3342
      @niaedmonds3342 Рік тому

      @@ieatalldayandimstillhungry626 nah, from what i googled Lil wayne did indeed sell Nickis masters

    • @ieatalldayandimstillhungry626
      @ieatalldayandimstillhungry626 Рік тому +3

      @@niaedmonds3342 How can he sell something he doesn't own?
      Nicki doesn't own her group records. The group records are like collaborative albums & compilation albums of all of artist. Lil Waune only sold those records.
      Nicki owns her solo records, so he can't those. Nicki already said that she owns her solo masters.

    • @niaedmonds3342
      @niaedmonds3342 Рік тому

      @@ieatalldayandimstillhungry626 Interesting

  • @IndiGeaux
    @IndiGeaux Рік тому +58

    I feel that. Uber takes SO much money that I earn as a driver, it’s sickening.

    • @what6672
      @what6672 Рік тому

      Hah! Then when you have to report your earnings around tax season, then you REALLY feel ill.

  • @fhxs
    @fhxs Рік тому +158

    I have a family member that actually lives in an area in Atlanta with a lot of popular artists and he’s just a somewhat entry level software developer. A couple years out of school didn’t even go to school for tech & does his work in his PJ pants. It just puts things into perspective. A lot of these artists are over their head & overspending so much on top of their debt to keep up an image as well. Designer clothes, exotic cars, stylists, constant beauty appointments traveling on private planes. We don’t know how well a star is doing in comparison to us “normal” people.

  • @Kayzblog
    @Kayzblog Рік тому +25

    This is frightening and at the same time an eye-opener. As someone who wanted to be in the music industry, I changed my mind after watching several videos like these one and reading articles about artists who are "modern day slaves". All I can say is, music isn't for the faint of heart.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +3

      Honestly! It’s not for the faint of heart at all 😮‍💨

  • @Sunniyy
    @Sunniyy Рік тому +108

    I believe most of us at one point lost sight that outside of the glits and glam people are regular people. Most of the mtv cribs we saw were rented out just to shoot the show. I think they build this dream world to lure more people them. To anyone who genuinely love creating music. Stay grounded and keep your feet on the ground. Most think about the fame and etc. That part isn't real. It's a illusion for the outside world. There's so many ways to be a artist now. Just keep your intentions pure. Lots of ppl. get into the industry for the wrong reason and end up going down. Don't get to down about everything. Artistry was never supposed to be a breeding ground for idolism, but people are trying to sell a lifestyle to potential people

  • @theNeonWallFlower
    @theNeonWallFlower Рік тому +70

    I work full time as a performing singer in my town. I currently make the same amount I did when I was serving tables but now I'm loving what I do at least. I used to think I wanted to be famous from my music but after meeting some of these rich broke artists IRL - it's true. HOLLYWOOD is FAKE! The loan part is true when you get a record label. You use the money they give you to create your 'product' AKA your music. Isn't it crazy how TLC was holding all those grammy awards saying they have no money.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +10

      Yeah… before I used to think I’ll make money from my music but, I’ve now accepted the fact that I can’t depend on that. I’ll make my $$$ from other things instead $ invest in myself [my music]…

  • @CircumstancesNeverMatter
    @CircumstancesNeverMatter Рік тому +80

    People need to leave Rihanna alone she has put out soooooo much music to last for a lifetime and she literally spent most of her youth singing. I’m glad she’s hesitant to jump back into music I don’t blame her at all.

  • @neo.5327
    @neo.5327 Рік тому +110

    Rihanna had to finesse this shit , even fenty she owns a small percentage of her "company" how she got that money was basically a cut from the bigger cake.

    • @Mikirono23
      @Mikirono23 Рік тому +29

      I had to look that up. Google said she only owns 15% omg

    • @LakeishaGoudy
      @LakeishaGoudy Рік тому +4

      I believe she owns 50% that's how she was able to become a billionaire.

    • @Devi_Seona
      @Devi_Seona Рік тому

      She finessed all people who bought her shitty products, that’s how she became a billionaire. She couldn’t have done it without the music industry, they gave her everything, hits, great public image, and she used that to sell shit at a very expensive price to her fans.

    • @cuban9931
      @cuban9931 Рік тому +2

      She only owns half as of now

    • @neo.5327
      @neo.5327 Рік тому

      @@Mikirono23 go find out who owns the rest , the man that owns everything , also his white , and I'm not just saying that just to say it.

  • @ML-ni1tk
    @ML-ni1tk Рік тому +157

    This is so heartbreaking. Why is this not talked about enough? Wouldn't it be easier to take a personal loan from the bank than sign a record deal? How much to record companies influence an artist's popularity?

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +70

      Honestly, a loan from the bank might be better 😅. Major record labels can usually help an artist go MAINSTREAM because of the extremely huge budget they have. One example was when Billie Eilish released Happier Than Ever; I wasn’t really in a hurry to listen to it. But then, I kept seeing it every where on UA-cam. Like consistently for a longggg time it was insane. Lol… So one day I was like, “you know what, I’ll check it out”. Cause I was sooooo tired of seeing it every time I opened YT.😁
      Also, record labels have a lot more connections amongst other things and can make an artist know world wide.

    • @violetstonebeats
      @violetstonebeats Рік тому +23

      Loans from the bank require a good credit score, especially when you consider the large sums of money artists get in advances. Idk of many banks that would give a 500k loan that isn't for a house or a car, especially if you don't own a house already, which most artists don't. And then ofc connections and such

    • @deenaprice1524
      @deenaprice1524 Рік тому +18

      You can't get any radio exposure without signing. You probably can't book certain concert venues without signing, too. They own all major music marketing avenues.

    • @Zellymackintosh
      @Zellymackintosh Рік тому +6

      Lol what do you mean not talked about enough???? Theres tons of videos on this , just youtube it

    • @marie-francoiset9402
      @marie-francoiset9402 Рік тому

      If they try to get a bank loan, what will they use for collateral?

  • @nonnieJ94
    @nonnieJ94 Рік тому +39

    Chloe is one the of the few “artists” that are actual artists that signed a bad deal. Most artists now sign deals where they agree to be a face and all music, aesthetics, and lifestyle will be provided as needed by the label to make a profit

    • @remyroland8016
      @remyroland8016 Рік тому +3

      That's my problem with upcoming artists. They must be educated about the music industry.

  • @blackronin5578
    @blackronin5578 Рік тому +23

    as a actor it's much better because our contracts ain't ruthless like that but with acting your still broke until u reach the top 10% because most acting gigs don't pay much unless you got a supporting or lead role but one thing im thankful for is that acting isn't build heavy off of debt like music is n great video by the way just subbed.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Ronin…. Glad you liked the video ☺️🧡🧡🧡

  • @rogerwalker2892
    @rogerwalker2892 Рік тому +48

    I'm not into the music industry but it never ceases to amaze me why so many artists hear the horror stories from as far back as Frankie Lyman and Morris Levy in the 50''s, to Jerry Heller and nwa in the 90''S to all of the crooks still operating today and they still sign these terrible contracts. BE AN INDEPENDENT ARTIST AND CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY it's not rocket science for christ sake. Be contented to make $75K to $100K doing you by building your own network and own all your shit, instead of being lured in by empty promises of grandeur to sign away your soul....but that's just me

    • @sharrellfaith
      @sharrellfaith Рік тому +2

      💯

    • @bethromelus6172
      @bethromelus6172 Рік тому +4

      It's because it's very hard. Singers have to promote themselves, pay for a team, understand skill development, etc. It's so much painstaking work. I know this because I run my own business. I love being an independent owner but I understand why people didn't choose this path. It's exhausting.

  • @reneesmith8488
    @reneesmith8488 Рік тому +14

    It's very telling that Rihanna with the success of her music career from her teen years to now , Fenty made her a billionaire despite selling so much and being such a HUGE star

  • @McNellyCoCoNelly
    @McNellyCoCoNelly Рік тому +11

    I almost got signed by a record label they told me I was going to be rich,I had no problem with signing the deal but I had problems with the people behind the label,it didn't sit right with me,so I didn't sign and I'm independent still and happy..I feel free!!🤣🤣

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +1

      Awwwww…. Glad everything worked out for you… There’s nothing like being free tbh 🫶🏾

  • @tayyibahz9343
    @tayyibahz9343 Рік тому +155

    Beyoncé played both of them. They signed a crappy deal and half the stuff they flash isn’t even theirs. Even if they come to their senses and wanted to leave they can’t cuz they are stuck in the contract they signed. Honestly with all this information out about how greedy the music industry is you’d think artists would sign better contracts 😂

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +48

      lol…. I know right! I feel some artists probably are just desperate to be noticed. So they go into the deal thinking they’ll be able to work something out later on. But then when later on comes, they realize they can’t, and now they’re stuck.

    • @tayyibahz9343
      @tayyibahz9343 Рік тому +3

      @@WilonaJoy 💯

    • @zarario4444
      @zarario4444 Рік тому +5

      Beyonce gave them the opportunity to be in the music industry.

    • @tayyibahz9343
      @tayyibahz9343 Рік тому +29

      @@zarario4444 they were already in the industry. If they had jus waited a lil longer they could’ve signed with someone else. Beyoncé isn’t even promoting them that well. It’s not all Beyoncé’s fault tho. The songs Chloe has been dropping haven’t even been charting and instead of trying to make a hit she is on vacation!

    • @KnowledgeSeeker78491
      @KnowledgeSeeker78491 Рік тому +5

      Beyonce got her a hard on the eyes guy so I'm guessing Chole better do something similar or make some hits

  • @irisikey
    @irisikey Рік тому +20

    I don’t think Chloe is broke though, she is just not being paid as much as she deserves. I think her apartment tour was amazing. She is wise not to pretend like others and put themselves in more debts. Record labels are businesses and most times they are looking their profit. the music industry isn’t easy. U right.

  • @pleshettegrimsley927
    @pleshettegrimsley927 Рік тому +22

    Keep spreading these things goddess! The ancestors are so proud of you! Hollywood and definitely the music industry comes with a price. Selling your soul or sacrificing another person soul.

  • @sherrondanance3049
    @sherrondanance3049 Рік тому +6

    I see people with apt like Chloe and they just have a regular customer service job! The music industry work the hell out of these artist

  • @Kiki32131
    @Kiki32131 Рік тому +33

    I don't feel bad for upcoming artists because so many real situations are available to the public so a person can learn from others' mistakes. They say to always have a lawyer look over all contracts before signing.

    • @katgreer6113
      @katgreer6113 Рік тому +1

      i thought some labels don't allow people use their own lawyers?

    • @what6672
      @what6672 Рік тому +5

      1. People cant afford lawyers.
      2. Most people read at a fourth grade level.
      3. The labels pressure you to sign like sleazy car salesmen.
      As someone who has learned to read contracts through my work experience you HAVE to have a really good lexicon, abstract thinking, AND THE CONFIDENCE TO SAY NO.
      Just because someone puts a contract before you- doesn't mean you can't modify the agreement in your favor!!!
      If you can change it, or you have too little time to truly make an informed decision- WALK AWAY.
      We live in an age where people are CONDITIONED to sign first and get screwed over later. Most people SCROLL to the end of their terms of service and click accept not knowing what theyre actually agreeing to!!!

  • @SusanSingsSongs
    @SusanSingsSongs Рік тому +27

    Very glad to see young women understanding the facts of the industry. Irene Cara who just passed away was a music icon to many of us when we were young was ripped off and blacklisted at the age of 24 and so much of her great genius was lost to the public. Then I watched Musicians in my generation like TLC get ripped off and it was such a wakeup call. I am an Artist and have stayed independent and have been much happier because of this. Good luck in all your endeavors!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much Susie ❤️

  • @TheAliyah899
    @TheAliyah899 Рік тому +69

    I like this video. I think it was very thought out and you did a lot of research and editing and it all came together very well! Its sad that most people are slaves to the industry. When i think of actors and musicians i imagine they are the elite. Im learning as I get older that isnt true. Celebrities are normal people too.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Nicole… I appreciate you watching 💖💖💖. Yeah celebrities are just people too…

  • @414_kiaraaa3
    @414_kiaraaa3 Рік тому

    God bless you , so happy to be here and to be apart of the conversation . Let’s keep it going ❤ waking up the younger generations .

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching Kiaraaa 💖

  • @richellec1632
    @richellec1632 Рік тому +22

    Chloe is not broke. Let’s not forget she has royalties from her old music as well as all of her acting appearances. Also most celebrities are styled and don’t own their clothes so that’s not an expense that is their own anyways.

    • @prettyalmonddutchess2686
      @prettyalmonddutchess2686 Рік тому +7

      But the record deal that they get does go towards clothing and makeup, producing, touring and more..so I kinda doubt it there’s artists that live in these large mansions and cars but the label owns them 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @BillionaireDubaii
      @BillionaireDubaii Рік тому

      It’s not like a loan it is a loan

    • @richellec1632
      @richellec1632 Рік тому +1

      @@prettyalmonddutchess2686 she only lives in an apartment

    • @prettyalmonddutchess2686
      @prettyalmonddutchess2686 Рік тому

      @@richellec1632 yea I saw which she deserves more

  • @Luni144
    @Luni144 Рік тому +1

    This was a great video! It’s such an important topic that I feel like often times get overlooked completely.
    Great job :)

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thanks Luna… Glad you liked it 🙏🏾🧡🧡🧡

  • @aaeats1694
    @aaeats1694 Рік тому +1

    This is AMAZING! you know how to make great videos with great explanation and the editing!! yes GIRL!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Oh thank you so so much…. Means a lot! 🥹❤️❤️❤️

  • @kingstonstreet3726
    @kingstonstreet3726 Рік тому +20

    I noticed something recently the relationship between Nicki and Taylor swift who is very brand aware but I noticed they supporting each other ,so I realized they are seen in a similar way in business industry

  • @sherrondanance3049
    @sherrondanance3049 Рік тому

    Thank you for covering this topic, this is really detailed!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      You’re welcome! Thanks for watching 🥰💖🧡💖🧡

  • @mohdshow
    @mohdshow Рік тому +32

    People in the music industry (producers, record label people, etc.) are truly greedy and I think it’s safe to say PURE EVIL!
    I saved my hard earned money to make an album and when I did record it .. they didn’t give me the rights to publish it and do what I wanted to do with it, they wanted me to sign another contact to shoot music videos. Most of them don’t care about the artists .. the well-being of an artist and they don’t even care about the music you make .. all they care about is making money out of you .. this topic is so triggering to me but I just wanna share this so my voice is heard.. anyway I wish all artists who are struggling the best 🌹

    • @mohdshow
      @mohdshow Рік тому +6

      I was OUT immediately after they tried to make me sign another contacts and pay them more .. I chose my mental health and safety over music 💔 I still make music in my own way but certainly not the same way I once envisioned

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +5

      OMG!!! I’m so so sorry you had to go through that🥺🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾. I’m an upcoming musician myself & I’m beginning to see alotttt of unpleasant things. My next video actually talks about what the industry does to people and how artists are just a means to an end for them [the end being making money]. They don’t care what happens to the individual as long as they make more money…. It’s quite sad tbh…

    • @mohdshow
      @mohdshow Рік тому

      @@WilonaJoy best of luck 🤞🏽🤍

  • @jolaviolante8212
    @jolaviolante8212 Рік тому +35

    Alot of entertainer has joined cult groups and there's doors that they must go through to advance their career. So many artist are exposing the dark side of what they have to do stay elevated.

  • @Joshdifferent
    @Joshdifferent Рік тому +3

    Great topic and perspective! 👏🏽💯‼️

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Josh! And thanks for watching 🙌🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾

  • @lane89
    @lane89 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this peace it was phenomenal woman.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Glad you liked it 🥲💖❤️💖

  • @QueenZsWorld
    @QueenZsWorld Рік тому +41

    when you realize the 90s were 30 years ago... in the 90s, that would be like the 60s.

  • @davidrichards1295
    @davidrichards1295 Рік тому

    Thanks for the update; God Bless you.

  • @outtasight9811
    @outtasight9811 Рік тому +13

    I think we need to look at their talents as special and not expect luxury. We use luxury as a way to style and express who we are as individuals. Anyone can be luxurious especially if you got friends who design and are creative you know! That’s why everyone has to believe in themselves. It can be anyone who gets their chance to be known next!

  • @dantevale5008
    @dantevale5008 Рік тому +1

    First time discovering you! I like how relaxed and candid this video was; subscribed!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thanks Dante! Really appreciate you being here ☺️💖💖💖

  • @Naisy77
    @Naisy77 Рік тому

    I love your commentary ❤️✨

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thank you Naisy 🥹💖🧡💖🧡

  • @helloxonsfan
    @helloxonsfan Рік тому +8

    *I've said it before & I'll say it again... the worst thing to have ever happened to the music industry are the major record companies & the bloodsuckers who run them...!!! Period...!!!*

  • @tristanwatkins7046
    @tristanwatkins7046 Рік тому +1

    I was a music business major and this Was all told to us in our first class. Good video

  • @homiesuncensored
    @homiesuncensored Рік тому +1

    you’re amazing❤

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thanks Lisa 🥰💖💖💖

  • @artistaroundtheblock2047
    @artistaroundtheblock2047 Рік тому +11

    Also girl don’t forget that although the apartment isn’t that huge, you’ll find that the fixtures and fittings are so expensive. Like the couch will be worth $300 000.

  • @Deetrio
    @Deetrio Рік тому +2

    This is why the best way to do it, is to start your own Indie label/brand. Release your music under your own label, push hard. Then just do publishing deals, rather than full contractual agreements. Build your own, the internet is a good market...

  • @jaredt9231
    @jaredt9231 Рік тому +14

    Lol I actually remember when I first saw her home tour too, i was expecting more as well. I was thrown off but then I was like “eh maybe she’s a minimalist”

  • @Honestlylovely
    @Honestlylovely Рік тому +9

    I hate when people complain about the life they chose

    • @kelsiiie9786
      @kelsiiie9786 Рік тому

      You sound kind of dumb, you can choose a certain path and not know exactly what pops out on you during the walk, everyone makes mistakes💀 we live and we learn

    • @Honestlylovely
      @Honestlylovely Рік тому

      @@kelsiiie9786 you sound really dumb life is all about choices for action there is a reaction deal with it smart dumb ass

  • @waterlily579
    @waterlily579 Рік тому

    This!!!! Deserves lots of likes and views🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thank you 🙌🏾. Thanks for watching 💖💖💖

  • @adamamunu3046
    @adamamunu3046 Рік тому

    New subscriber here. I love your aura, and this video was eye-opening to watch!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thank youuuuu 🥹 I really appreciate you ❤️🧡❤️🧡❤️🧡❤️

  • @xannisexco1725
    @xannisexco1725 Рік тому +1

    You're amazing girl keep it up.

  • @Le-Nor
    @Le-Nor Рік тому +5

    This is true Musicians we work so hard for so little financially. It’s. Hard stay strong.

  • @josss_ie8083
    @josss_ie8083 Рік тому +2

    Love you're videos!! you always say what I'm thinking 💗

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Awwww… thanks for watching Josssie! I appreciate you 💖💖💖

  • @DizzyCawna
    @DizzyCawna Рік тому +16

    TLC is the perfect example of how the industry is especially if you're young with a crappy contract. They even took out left eye cause she signed and didnt wanna participate. She wanted to do her own album and go on vacation to Honduras they took her life so quik. Sad

  • @kokoclaytv
    @kokoclaytv Рік тому +18

    I’m not quite sure how TLC and Chloe Bailey actually relate or compare in terms of business. They come from 2 different eras of the music industry, at the time of TLC, music and CDs was a great way to make money with touring, brand deals etc….
    That advance money was usually quickly recuperated due to the price they were selling these albums and how cheap CDs were produced. The 90s are reputed to be the golden age of the music industry…
    TLC sold MILLIONS of albums, but they signed a BAD DEAL. Chloe Bailey just come from that Era where music is not selling but streaming: it barely brings any money so every artist nowdays are kind of a liability for record labels, so that why she has to wear many hats, like most artists nowdays, to bring that bread. Music has become a platform and only a very few select of music Superstars are living good with it.

  • @keshaalbusaidy2929
    @keshaalbusaidy2929 Рік тому

    Amazing video and very informative. Here's a topic idea, sort of like a continuation. Try to find out how many popular artists own their own music and how many don't.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thank you 😊… Glad you liked it ❤️. Oh that’s a really good one… It will be on my to do for upcoming videos…

  • @opportunechastia2322
    @opportunechastia2322 Рік тому

    Thank God I found this video. Thank you for the advice!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      You’re welcome.. glad you liked it 🫶🏾

  • @eensanom
    @eensanom Рік тому +2

    Girl you’re so cute.. the way you talk, the way you move.. Wish we could be friends 💕🥺

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +1

      Awwwww thank you ☺️💖… you can send me a DM on IG🙈

  • @richellec1632
    @richellec1632 Рік тому +3

    Hopefully this sickening exploitation of artists stops though

  • @justinevillarreal5003
    @justinevillarreal5003 Рік тому +1

    God showed Me This ALONG time aGo.. annnd Im Glad he diD.. IM Glad lots of Ppl are talkin abouT this legal abuse. AND IF THATS YOUR MUSIC AT THE END .. GURL YOU ARE TALENTED!! Love iT

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching! I appreciate you 💖… That’s not my music at it end; it’s a song I got from epidemic sound. Here’s a link to mine if you’d like to check it out 🙈 ua-cam.com/video/k4Z3zRVpZEM/v-deo.html

  • @marathonbleu
    @marathonbleu Рік тому +20

    Dam Chloe!! 😩😩 I knew her and Halle only signed for a million dollars but dammm no producing credit??

  • @childofthegoddess4207
    @childofthegoddess4207 Рік тому +24

    Lizzo isn’t the exception. Lizzo is it. This generation of female artists is so so proud to be who they are. Hopefully they can get together and love each other cuz it’s really beautiful to see.

    • @CircumstancesNeverMatter
      @CircumstancesNeverMatter Рік тому +6

      Lizzo isn’t it at all. One moment she’s doing the most pretending she “loves herself” the next she having a breakdown drink a green smoothie talking about how she feels bad. So I don’t think Lizzo even has high self esteem at all I feel she’s pretending and it’s obvious. All of these “artists” are pretending to be comfortable in their own skin but they’re not that’s why plastic surgery is the new eye liner. 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @baddiewiththebooks
    @baddiewiththebooks Рік тому +12

    yes, artists should have more control and be significantly compensated for their work. they should not have to go in substantial amounts of debt. absolutely. yes, these record labels’ practices need to be dismantled and reformed. however, I feel like this is bigger than just those things. the capitalistic, leeching, imbalanced, hierarchical society that we live in will have us regular, 9-5 working people thinking that these celebrities are broke. they might not be paid what they're worth, they might be in debt, but them being “broke”, I believe is subjective. as someone from the U.S. living in a society with a wage and wealth gap, systemic issues, health care cost crisis, and a homelessness epidemic, and myself doing things I never imagined doing like joining the army bc I thought it was my only way out atm, can’t help but to feel not empathy, but a minimal form of sympathy for these artists. in my opinion, Chloe’s apartment is gorgeous and her needs are met by having it. we are conditioned to believe that we should have it all. more, more, more. exorbitance, but at what cost?

  • @deagalore
    @deagalore Рік тому +1

    You have a beautiful voice!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thank you Dea 🥰💖💖💖

  • @elijimenez7710
    @elijimenez7710 Рік тому

    Singing,
    “THiiiiiiissssssssssss”!!!!!! ❤

  • @queenmari5562
    @queenmari5562 Рік тому +13

    Everything she’s saying is absolutely true, but music legends been saying this for years and look where they ended up. Either broke and homeless looking for the next come up or DEAD smh 🤦🏽‍♀️ nothing in life is just given to you, remember that. Great video #newsubscriber ❤

  • @joshuagordon7949
    @joshuagordon7949 Рік тому +25

    Girl not you said TLC is a group from a “long time ago”…I’m finna block you😂😂😂😂 cause I feel old now and I’m born in 92🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +6

      Nooooo I didn’t mean it that way😭. 92 is not old AT ALL. I really didn’t intend for it to sound the way people are talking it 🥺💖

  • @LavendaMonroe
    @LavendaMonroe Рік тому +7

    I said this about the acting industry also, its all still a business at the end of the day. Companies want to make money off of you. Its not charity its business. Its either you get used or do the using.

  • @uncleruckus7409
    @uncleruckus7409 Рік тому +7

    I can’t understand why musicians would complain. They have more now than they ever did. Someone gave them the opportunity to live out their dreams and make a better life for themselves. It may not be fair the record deal but that is the problem with some of our people. We don’t own anything. We don’t own the record company the distribution or the licensing. We would rather just sing and dance get attention and buy material things. So you can’t complain about the bad deal you got. If you don’t like it then don’t take it.

  • @Dee_TC
    @Dee_TC Рік тому

    Interesting video! Keep up the good work 😊

  • @AvecPoesie
    @AvecPoesie Рік тому +9

    This is a very random question, but I am going to be moving into a new Home 🏡 soon and Lilac is my favorite color. Do you know the exact paint color on that back wall with the window behind you? I am going to be scheduling painters to come in soon, and I adore that shade. Thank you 🖤

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +7

      Hi Avec, no I’m not really sure what colour tbh. The colour on my wall is like a light beige colour. What is giving it that touch of purple on the back wall with the window, is the purple led light I had on for this video. So the purple led light blended with the light beige colour of the wall, giving it that unique lilac colour you see. I hope I was able to help a little…. Perhaps you could take a screenshot and show it to your painter?

    • @AvecPoesie
      @AvecPoesie Рік тому +1

      @@WilonaJoy Oh dear! I hadn't realized! Thank you however, for the insight. A screenshot will likely help me more. What type of LED light is it that projects the Lilac-colored light, might I ask? I may get one of those, while I am at it. Haha...

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Lol… sure. I got it from Amazon. Here’s the link a.co/d/b8OYRk0

    • @AvecPoesie
      @AvecPoesie Рік тому +1

      @@WilonaJoy I appreciate you putting up with me and my asinine questions. Your video and your style of communication is very endearing and quite interesting to watch. I found the topic informative and intriguing thanks to your focus on it. Thank you for your replies 🖤

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Glad I could help… You’re welcome 💖

  • @Kdotllaz
    @Kdotllaz Рік тому +3

    Labels pay an advance, an advance is on the contract this is something you agree too. You pay back in sales, shows etc it’s a loan it’s a debt.

  • @GyalLikeChelley
    @GyalLikeChelley Рік тому

    Great video!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thank you 🙌🏾🙏🏾💖

  • @tbj4855
    @tbj4855 Рік тому +34

    Shit Chloe Bailey prolly paying 5 bands a month for that la apartment that’s not no regular shit 😂😂

    • @mrs.camilliajones3560
      @mrs.camilliajones3560 Рік тому +6

      Right!

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +2

      Lol…. 😅

    • @shanelp7489
      @shanelp7489 Рік тому +10

      From what it looks like she lives in Glendale or Burbank, CA. That’s pretty much where majority of Hollywood and the elite live. It’s like 20 minutes away from Hollywood. Renting out there is minimum 5,000 so your right on the nail.

  • @sicarresupreme
    @sicarresupreme Рік тому +7

    TLC i didn't understand why they was broke because of the records they sold but Chloe has not sold any records

  • @NezD
    @NezD Рік тому +17

    Well as someone who lives and works in Hollywood, a birdie told me that she was very expensive to manage overall. A lot of resources had to be wasted on cleaning up her image, back peddling her ridiculous comments, and tryna control her brand. I was a huge Doja Cat fan since MOO but the scandal around her extreme dislike for black men, let the the doja hit her on the way out.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +5

      Oh Wow didn’t know they were trying that hard to clean Doja’s image…

    • @charlie6909
      @charlie6909 Рік тому +2

      Lol that was somebody who made up the rumor that she hated black people because she said no to him. He apologized.

    • @NezD
      @NezD Рік тому

      @@charlie6909 😂 ok bro

    • @Rice10120
      @Rice10120 Рік тому +1

      Doja Cat doesn't have to like black men. Black men verbalize who they don't like a lot and most of the time it's black women. BM don't even like each other.

    • @NezD
      @NezD Рік тому

      @@Rice10120 With no name or profile picture, is your POV from a black man’s, black woman’s, white man’s, white woman’s or other ethnicities perspective? BM will riot if another BM or BW is killed: I hardly see white americans, even the ones who say more white people are killed by police, doing that. In the black community, BM & BW call each other “brotha” and “sista”. No other community talks like that so please clarify.

  • @kingstonstreet3726
    @kingstonstreet3726 Рік тому +5

    9-5 is modern day slavery just a rebranding long hours low pay

  • @michellegitobu6862
    @michellegitobu6862 Рік тому

    let's talk about it!

  • @Person12216
    @Person12216 Рік тому

    Honestly, this is a great video.

  • @randomwatcher8911
    @randomwatcher8911 Рік тому

    Great video 👌🏽👌🏽

  • @darkmatter345
    @darkmatter345 Рік тому +4

    Luckily independent publishing through social media today is possible

  • @ellah2303
    @ellah2303 8 місяців тому

    Your intro song is 🔥

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  7 місяців тому

      Thank you 🙏🏾💖

  • @Moana_moo
    @Moana_moo Рік тому +60

    That’s why Ye done what he done:he wanted out of all his deals so he can release music independent and have his own independent fashion brand. And it will succeed his fandom we back him enough to have his next album go straight no.1 on Billboard

    • @zarario4444
      @zarario4444 Рік тому +7

      Ye who admires Hitler?

    • @Moana_moo
      @Moana_moo Рік тому

      @@zarario4444 hinestly i don’t agree with everything he say or do in fact right now i donr cancel him im still a huge fan and look up to him but im concerned for him he literally said”he wanna see his mom” and this self distructive behaviour he done recently make me extremely concerned and worried. I don’t support everything he say or do but i ain’t cancel Ye

    • @Moana_moo
      @Moana_moo Рік тому

      @asava17 he still have a lot of supporters on social media. I ain’t defending Ye nor cancelling Ye im concerned about Ye. He’s spiralling and need help and before ya say”mental illness ain’t an excuse for what he say” it absolutely is like mental illness can make u say shit u don’t mean it don’t mean he shouldn’t be held accountable for what he say but not right now 1st he need help. Like he don’t accept help bcuz part of the illness is not believing u have a mental illness when u that deep into the episode. I can support Ye and still be a fan and not defend his recent actions but Pray he get the help he truly need bcuz he’s suicidal. He said “i wanna see my mom”. His recent comments are a cry for help

  • @kimwhatmatters4085
    @kimwhatmatters4085 Рік тому +12

    They word it wrong the problem isn’t paying back the loan it’s the fact that the payments don’t come from the overall profit comes from the small percentage that they get so if they get two or three usually under 10% that 90% profit is not going towards the debt it’s only their small percentage so that’s what makes it extremely unfair on top of the interest. also while they’re paying that they get a smaller percentage while they’re in debt and once that it’s over they get a bigger percentage so to ensure that they never get that bigger percentage they always keep them in debt. They inflate the cost of things so their music video should be $20,000 but they say it’s 300,000 that’s what makes it unfair. same goes for it how she said she’s a producer so she saves money in that aspect because they may pay a producer half $1 million(in house producer so they get part of the money) or say you’re going to work in certain studios they’re all in-house they won’t usually allow you to do it at home and when you do save money they just find other ways to say that they spent money.

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Wow! This is an extremely great point… Thanks for sharing 💖

  • @queenmari5562
    @queenmari5562 Рік тому +2

    Same thing happened with new edition 😢 these record labels are evil 😮

  • @kincamell2
    @kincamell2 Рік тому

    Gratitude

  • @7102cc
    @7102cc Рік тому +5

    This is why Ye did what he did to get out of his contracts. He use to say the industry own him for life

  • @brookerenee73
    @brookerenee73 Рік тому +2

    You have a beautiful voice

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Thank youuuuu 🥰💖💖💖

  • @angellaroberts9852
    @angellaroberts9852 Рік тому

    Thanks for info great content

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching…. Glad you liked it ☺️💖

  • @ManhwaAudiobooks
    @ManhwaAudiobooks Рік тому +5

    the cuts to prince 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @atarakay9900
    @atarakay9900 Рік тому +7

    I always try to remember I’m richer than rich peoples debt

    • @WilonaJoy
      @WilonaJoy  Рік тому

      Awwww… that’s a good philosophy 💯