Our Tiny House Dream Project on Portugal's Paradise Island!
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I would love to follow you while you remodel that stone house. Your plans look amazing....such a soul-soothing environment! GO FOR IT!!
Thanks Kimberly!
Lovely little get away , especially for weekends, enjoy
I’ve just sent this video to my wife after stumbling upon it and it instantly reminded me of us. For the past 20 years, we’ve been purchasing and renovating properties, and we’ve just returned from Madeira yesterday. We are incredibly inspired and we’re definitely planning a return trip! We hope to bump into you someday - your content is really engaging, by the way. Keep following your ❤.
Another thing is how to get materials into it. I watch Positano Diaries and they have to walk 500 stone steps up or down to get to their house. They now bought another house in Tuscany and are able to park at their door. They can tell you the reality of the difference of logistics. Maybe you should rent a room close by there and see what its like for a few days or weeks too?
I’d be very happy to see more of this!
I would love to see the step by step in detail!!!
Thanks James! :) We think it would be fun too
Remodelling in the US gets pricey fast! I’ve watched a few old European cottage being renovated, the amount of work needed is going to be quite a challenge. But, if you guys are committed to this project, I’ll definitely enjoy watching the entire progress❤
The pictures of the finished project are wonderful, congratulations Amelia !
That is so cool, go for it, that area is so beautiful, but cold in the winter. You both will enjoy working on it together 😊❤
😊 ❤️
Win win, interesting content for your channel and a nice little investment while giving something back to Madeira. Your enthusiasm is bubbling over. In March 2020 we were in an Airbnb with such a fab view (Ponta do Sol) also a little bbq out building.
Thanks! ❤
Yes please do it, and show the full process including getting the paperwork/permissions done.
Love the ambition and the determination Joen and Amalie. It is definitely a stunning ruin with a view and lots of potential. I have been renovating our own modern contemporary house in St Cruz since July of 2023 and I took on that challenge virtually because we live in the US. It has been a costly and time-consuming endeavor. I highly recommend you consult with an architect in the dept. of urbanism at the local municipality to ensure that you can do what you want to do. Secondly, speak to the locals in the area to see if they know of any reputable local contractors with past performance experience. Thirdly, factor in at least 3 years and 300K to account for hard-to-find skilled labor and materials. I am sure you can pull it off if your heart, soul, and wallet are truly in it! 👍
Yes do it guyz ☝🏼💫
Yes, this will be an incredible project! I can't wait to see what you do! 🩵💙🩵
Good luck with the home, awesome ideas. Make sure you get that land issue worked out before buying though. You guys are now totally Madeirense. (hope I spelled that right)
Thanks bruv!
I have experiance of a similar project. Took down a wooden barn from 1815 and built a new design house. For me the tension comes from the very old vs very new.... Based on what I see in your vision I would keep the old interior walls and ceiling. Take out the old floor, potentially escavate to get higher ceiling. Then make a new concrete floor with waterbased underfloor heating. You also hide all the new pipes for water, plumbing and electricity in this floor. Then a heatpump or solar panels to heat the floor to keep cost down. This way you get a warm nice climate of a new house and preserve all the character and charm it already has. Also, if you insulate the walls and ceiling... you lose space
Have sat in those same swings. Beautiful view looking down toward Seixal
Go for it! It’s going to hurt and drive you crazy, but you’ll have such a great sense of achievement when you’re done. That view is to die for, we may have to grab it before you.😂😂😉
What an exciting future project. Best of luck. Because of you two I went to Portugal and fell in love with Lisboa and Albufeira. Keep up the great work………🤗🇨🇦
Great idea guys 👍👍👍
Thanks, Helen!
Hi guys, it’s Carlos. Always love your videos. Joen, easy on the drinks my man. Enjoy but drink sensibly regarding Amelia. It will affect her also. Not preaching, just saying my brother. Most importantly enjoy your new life in Madeira and make sure you have many memories of this wonderful place called “The Pearl Of The Atlantic “. All the best and love to you both. You guys are both wonderful. ❤️❤️❤️
Hey I didn't drink in this video though 🫣😃
@@joenandamalie I know and that’s fantastic
YEEEES please! Already as excited as you :D
Go for it. This looks a beautiful project, to bring this stone house to life again is amazing 😊
Hey Joen and Amelie. I loved the idea. Hope you can do it as soon as possible.
Guys you absolutely should go for it!! I love this kind of content. 👍
Do it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the way I would also say “Isolate” 😂 I actually thought that was the right way of saying it. Also. That’s a beautiful idea! Go for it!
It won't be as much as 250k euros, if it costs 50k you should be able to do the whole thing for 100k more if you do the labor yourselves. The fact that the land is disputed is a biiiig red flag though, not going to lie. Last thing you need is an enemy next door. Also that place gets cold, so you will need to do double glazing for sure and some sort of fireplace and underfloor heating for your standards. The good news is stone is cool in the summer and warm in the winter, so you just need to fill up the holes with cement and tighten the building up and it will be fine I think. It will need a new roof structure, and i would do steel tbh, and it will need new tiles, as those will be old and rotten, despite looking straight. I would use contractors for the roof and the septic tank, which it will probably need too. The rest, if you put your minds to it, you should be able to DIY. Once done I think it's possibly worth 200-250k for an expat market. Just my opinion, it's viable, but not quite what you think it is. It is cheaper though, so there is some good news. But if you want to plant stuff you can do better I think.
First of all you need to understand what kind of stone you're dealing with. Your advice would trap moisture in the stone forcing the moisture into the property instead and causing damp issues in the internal walls. My advice would be using lime mortar instead of cement as lime mortar allows the stone to "breathe" and dry out naturally and therefore avert damp problems internally.
@@1987mdr Thanks for that. That house is made of straight up Basalt rock, it's very high quality building stone, probably world's finest, barring making a marble palace. I guess if the building isn't sunk into the ground on the rear side then they would get away with simple cement filling, as it would be dry, however if it is it will for sure have humidity, so many of these traditional houses have that issue of being built with the backs into the soil, due to the nature of the terrain. Not at all sure how lime mortar availability is here on the island. I guess the conclusion is, even if they do the job themselves, they need some form of consulting from an experienced contractor at least.
@@Zepherian the back of the property will more than likely be in the ground and there will water ingress, it's very common in the island with old houses, but as long as the house can be kept at a constant above 18C temperature and has good ventilation it will prevent most problems, it does depend on how much moisture comes through the wall.
Great project!!.. I love interior design. Do it!! 💯😊
It's always nice to see this type of projects. But more than that, it's seeing the excitement and the joy that a project always brings to someone!
Hope that this project goes well and you both don't need to expend alot of money 😂
I say that's a very good project for u2 😊. And a therapy...😅 Godspeed
Muito bom projecto
Obrigado Francis!
keep going! So cool unik project, will be amazing house))! Also I prefer to see how to do step by step by your hand, because its my dream to sometimes moved to Madeira.
A lot of isolation in Northern Madeira 😉
Lol.. Insulate is isolate in Danish so that's why we keep saying it 😂
OMG what a brilliant idea!!! and please don't take this as an insult because it's not...watching you do the work would be both hilarious and inspiring...Amelia will design something incredible! Very exciting!
Thank you! 😊 I see the entertainment value in me, Joen, having to do physical labour like this, haha!
I'd love to see you do this project!
Do it! Do it! Do it!
Every time we watch one of your videos my fiancé always asks, where do these guys get all of their money
That would be a great video… please make it ❤
Wonderful idea
This would be amazing but you need to be smart about it for certain or it could just be a money pitt. Be realistic about a time line too because something that takes 5 years because of laws and legal papers etc is a long time to get this dream really going, by then you might have different dreams. Find out what needs to be done and all the costs, time, etc before you do this. It is a wonderful dream and I completely understand. I watch Mr. and Mrs. Adventure but they live there in an RV/camper. It's a huge commitment to your time and money. Your design ideas, gardens desires, and views are amazing!! The Newbys also have been restoring a Portugal property on UA-cam and Leave Everything and Wander in Sicily. My best wishes to you all 🙏 I'm going to check your Patreon. I do really love you both so much ❤thank you for sharing your life's journey with us. Aloha and Blessings from Maui, Hawaii USA.
Nice project, guys! I could come and help you with great pleasure. I wouldn't ask for money. In return, you could help after with my project in Madeira😊
I think making much yourself, you could save 50-60k from the estimated 150-200k to renovate.
🤩 PARABÉNS, pela excelente ideia e iniciativa, Joen👍e pelo bom gosto da Amelie
P.S. - será uma óptima oportunidade para ambos gastarem calorias de forma produtiva ☺😉
YES, YOU CAN DO IT 🤗
Fantastic project, casínha linda, go for it guys 🏡❤
Beautiful! Most of the times these old ladies know exactly to whom the land belongs to. I had the same in Canhas, but it all worked out in the end (buying the land I thought I already owned). Hopefully your old lady is talking bs...
It's a interesting 🤔 project....
Hello, I'm your follower and I live here in Madeira. I want to warn you that the price of this small house on a small plot is exaggeratedly expensive (50,000€), as not long ago we could buy between 8,000€ and 10,000€. Real estate speculation in Portugal is at the top in Europe. Please be careful when talking about houses and land on the island of Madeira. Do not contribute to this real estate speculation. Compliments
Jon, my boyfriend is an alcoholic and dying. He refuses to stop, and he’s a young man, probably 20 years older than you? He’s had a lot of trauma and refuses to get therapy! I think it’s the only way to resolve or address the issues that create your situation. I’m trying to reach out.
He has to be willing to change himself. I’m sorry about your situation. If he is open to alternative medicine like plants etc he can be helped for sure! That’s what saved me ♥️
I agree with you. I have been a RN for 2 decades and have taken care of thousands of alcoholics. They destroy their liver, destroy their families and destroy all relationships eventually. It’s fatiguing living with a alcoholic and yes most are such wonderful people but the fact is, it is a disease and the mistake that all alcoholics is they always think they can quit on their own but reality is they never do. They must seek professional help and join support groups. This is the only way to assure that they stay committed. The truth is, once a alcoholic always a alcoholic and it’s so important to get help . Cirrhosis of the liver is a absolutely awful death and they will never be allowed on a transplant list unless they prove their sobriety. Once your liver is shot, no chance of living. This is so sad because it’s in this last phase that alcoholics want to make this change and finally enter rehab but by then it’s too late. The first and best step is admitting they are an alcoholic. The second big step is to get professional help. It is unfair to expect a family member to carry all of that burden which when they fail, then the spouse takes it as something she did or could of done better to help. The fact is, family are there only for support. Alcoholics need professional help and need to go to support groups and have sponsors to help that are not family or friends. Support groups are found all over the world in every city so going to a AA meeting can literally happen anywhere on any day.
So many people in recovery these days and are alive and happy. No shame in recovery!
In that matter, I love drink here and there, I follow your channel for long time, life is crazy, and beautiful, I think you guys need a child
Hey Amalie and Joen I will offer you some help :) 35+ years in Construction and 14 years as a senior project manager. We also have the ambition of bringing some of these forgotten stone buildings back to life. Let me know and I would be happy to come and have a look :)
Do it, you only live once!
It looks that have farmer included
Are u doing daily vlogs ?
Second daily vlogs I would say! :D
Right, you are good with your hands? Ok, I want to see the results. Jokes apart, that is a lovely house.
What plant saved your life?
There was a young couple bought a water mill in Portugal and they are making it into a home. They are you tubers
Preserving old architecture houses shoud be an obligation in all Europe, thank you very much.
did you guys end up buying this stone house?
Hi guys, I live here here in Madeira and I do remodeling on old homes, you can come and visit my property. And I can explain what's involved before you jump in
Hire someone to do it.😂 But you can be hands on with them. I wouldn’t spend over 100K renovating it….no ROÍ.
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Don't do it guys. Have you thought about water, sewerage, access for deliveries and tradesmen?
Jeg giver gerne en hånd med 😀
I dont believe in your Hands. But try its cool to see 😂
😂😂😂😂
I wouldn't buy this particular house. You already have a neighbor that you potentially would have a dispute with because of the garden. That's certainly not how you want to start a project. I'd find a different property.
have you ever thought of moving to central portugal 😂. just kidding, but seriously you will not get the money you put into it, first there is no parking, second it way to close to the neighbors. remember even if you like the current neighbors, new neighbors can be different. Dogs barking and roosters crowing gets annoying unexpectedly quickly. Take it from a person who has an apartment in Arcos de Valdevez backing onto a house where a lady keeps chickens. Also owning a ruin in the surrounding countryside with a common wall with a neighbor who on occasion has blocked vehicle access to the driveway (because we have a right of way through their property). I tell you the number of times my grandmother and parents have gone to court to press their claims is not worth it.
So, how tf do you guys have so much money? F me I guess.
I like Joen & Amelie and do love their content. I know that buying and renovating this stone cottage is probably a pipe dream, however, I have to say that them already having purchased/built that amazing “Bitcoin” house of theirs, to then buy something else up north to renovate, leaves a bit of a bad taste in my mouth. I know this subject has been touched on before, however it just has an air of “rich Scandinavians” coming over and buying properties when locals can barely afford to pay rents. I know this seems quite a negative comment, and I don’t mean to be, I just feel that maybe a bit of awareness/sensitivity to the local’s plight wouldn’t go amiss.
@@BelaMadeira The whole north is losing population, so I don't see an issue. Even Madeira in general will have a steep drop, we've been reproducing below replacement rates for decades. We need new blood, so let it be. So a few generations down the line Madeirians will have a higher percentage of scandinavian dna, big deal :p It's not like we haven't moved literally everywhere!
They sell cod
We like cod
I think it was bitcoin money?
Buy the house ,renovate,and give it to some poor struggling young madeirense family and then talk about it a Lot so others well off like you will follow ❤
That would be a 400k€ gift. 😄
That’s how BIG your heart is when u talk about struggling madeirenses❤
Well, nice project but beware, you will star a war with the neighbours from the moment you will reclaim the land that is rightfully yours but that they use for years. Get ready for some classic Madeira rural area drama.
Finally a video from you Danes which i actually like …
Forget about your upper crust villa…..buy this gem, build and and move in.
Finally, a video from you Danes which i like.
Hell, if you ain’t Danes …sorry..
I tend to confuse ALL of you Northern Europeans.
Sorry if you are NOT Danes….
ALL upper Northern Europeans are the same c,,,,,, to me.
I love this house so much more than the modern one! Hope you can make the purchase. Such and exciting project
I hope you will still enjoy our modern house! :DD
What a cool project! I'd love to live in a place like that! My dream is a lil stone cottage. The mock-ups were too modern looking though, losing the character of the house. Would be a shame not to keep the old stone cottage vibe. Everything in it should look 'old' and interesting and any 'modern' things somewhat disguised. You do need repointing on the stone (fixing the holes in the mortar) to seal the place up, but considering the climate there, you likely don't need to insulate (get good windows though and insulate the floors) as a simple fireplace/wood stove would suffice and some well placed fans for summer or a good mini-split. The sun will heat the stone during the day and release the heat at night for you to keep warm. If you insulate, in this case, you could end up with mold after cutting off the ability for it to dry itself. Do get a metal or stone roof (looks like it may already be one) for fire protection considering how close to the neighbors it is. Really pay attention to fire prevention on the exterior. I'd be a bit concerned if a neighbor seems to think the property is theirs though, so you want full closure on that first else they could sabotage your efforts during reno, ya never know. People are spiteful and you don't want spiteful neighbors 5' away from you. lol
You don't want to make a place like that 'nice', 'modern' or 'luxurious'. You want to make it cozy and earthy and a lil wild and steeped in time but with hidden conveniences so you aren't 'roughing it', but look like you are. Things like electric lanterns that look like old gas lamps, lots of cast iron and old wood, cobblestones, and a distressed wood table with a beautiful old wood rug and a copper kettle on the woodstove. The kinda place a painter or writer would live and putter in the garden. It's the kinda place you immediately feel home and welcomed with a cup of tea. Nothing unnecessary, fussy or fancy. Nothing grand. Just a beautiful, inspiring, serene time capsule of life. That's what I see there. Old-soul vibes full of wisdom and peace and laughs among friends. I'd retire there in two seconds. lol
To consider: comps are a thing in selling a house. It looks like the surrounding homes are still steeped in history, so to speak, so if you make a fancy house in the middle of all that, you will never get your money out of it because it'll be way too nice and the comps will drag it way down in price. It's not a good investment to make it fancy considering where it is. You'll lose a lot of money. If you keep the character and just give it some modern conveniences while keeping it 'old vibe' though, it would sell in a heartbeat with a great price. You also have to consider who the buyer would be. Those don't look like fancy folks up there and it's a recipe for disaster to sell to fancy folks a house plopped in the middle of old-world vibe folks. You want someone moving in who the neighbors will cherish and accept considering how close they are. Someone already up there would likely buy it and love it forever if it stays true to the vibe but is 'elevated' and fixed up. Just food for thought.
That view is gorgeous!! Do it while you’re young. You will get a sense of purpose to bring that old house to a beautifully restored stone cottage.
Super project! 👍
Thanks, Nina!
Gorgeous place!!! Good luck with the neighbor who says the land is hers. I see years of legal battles to come!
The neighbor was very friendly. It was the old lady who was so sweet and warm. I think we might not understood everything she said perfectly :)
Wow. This is a time-cons😢uming project. Like you said, bureaucracy
Delays will hamper you. Are you up for it? If you have the money and passion, then let the games begin.
Go for it and amazing project plus a lot episode to your YT channel. A win-win. Bedste hilsner fra København. PS min brasiliansk kæreste og jeg selv på udkig på en ruin, der trænger til “love & tender”
Tak skal du ha'! ❤
Interesting project! If you have watched any of those UA-cam channels you showed you would know some of the things you need to do.
Your working with stone so you need to use natural materials, lime, etc. For insulation I would recommend looking up hempcrete, not sure of it's availability there.
Good luck!
Thanks brother! We will definitely need to work with pros on a project like this so we dont make amateur mistakes!
@@joenandamalie be mindful of DIY UA-cam videos in these kinds of projects, a lot of them only show you the rebuild process and not often what happens with the house in terms of maintenance after finishing it, because quite often the wrong decisions have been made during the rebuild either to save money or because they didn't understand what they were choosing. Often times problems don't arise until a year or so later, but if you have the right people guiding you along the way, you can make this project a success. Insulation in the island is pretty hard to come by as it's not often used, find out who the local materials suppliers are and build a relationship with them.
Maybe I should do this too. It's a big leap from Maui to Madeira 😂 and I definitely would need lots of help!!!
Haha! DO IT! 😄
I will go in on it with you 😀 @@joenandamalie
More like it. You will pick up followers for sure.
Stone is good thermal mass and there should be no need to insulate it.
It will be cool in summer and store heat in winter!
I'm pretty sure we need to insulate the house if we're putting down a good chunk of money :D
Hi, you can of course insulate if you want to, but providing you protect the stones from moisture, ie capillary and lateral penetration, so that they remain dry, they will, due to their thermic mass, keep the property cool in the warmer months and help maintain the property at a more constant internal temperature in the cooler months when you introduce heating into the property.
Ideally an insulated coating on the exterior of the property would be ideal but the stonework is so asphetically pleasing it would be a shame to cover any of it.
There is an awful lot of technical literature written on the subject, much of it in Danish and I would certainly consider it as part of your renovation, it will reduce your energy bills vastly.
I wish you good luck with the purchase, and ultimately the project, but the first major hurdle that I can see is the land dispute. Even if you win the claim, do you really want to live next door to a neighbour, and amongst their friends and relatives, who hate you!
Good luck with everything, I will be watching keenly and no doubt be making more confusing suggestions as you go. Take care the two of you, big hugs!
Jim
I really like your vision Amelia.
I'd sort out who owns what and would get estimates and sort out logistics (as you're so close to neighbors, see if plumbing/ electrical needs to run through neighbors yards, etc)
There may be other places available to consider.
I'd love to see if there are other options (with potentially less headaches/cost)
There are many DIYers on UA-cam you could learn from.
Amelia, be sure to educate Joen on Narnia😂
I am so thrilled.. haven´t even watched the video yet and so happy to see you are doing a tiny home. I LOVE THEM!!!! BTW, my 20+ years of experience involves home remodeling, restoring and design. Along with an abundance of personal nutritional and food knowledge. If you ever wanna have volunteers come out for hands-on work, I live in Porto ;) My assessment: The walls definitely I would add caulk and then maybe an exterior insulation with faux stonework, some terracing of the land for crops and soil stability, and the roof looks amazing =) which is a big plus, I think.
You're hired! 😅 very kind of you!
That stonehouse have a lot of possibilities, so if I were you...buy it and make it into a comfortable chic house and will follow you along the way in making into a very nice and comfortable home.
Please do ittt! I will be waiting for every new video anxiously 😍
Patreon, people pay 1 euro to see the following of the construction and it is helping you to develop the project... Suggestion...
It's a real paradise there. Hope you can make it guys.❤
You've got a quite a very nice project!
How exciting!! Would love you to see you both renovating this place…inspiring! Loved Amelia designs too ❤
Good luck! Ótima ideia!
Obrigadoooo
Definitely I will love to see that renovation!!
Hi both, I wish you good luck. We are your neighbours (at the end of the street - under construction) and we are renovating a little stone house right now which was on the plot where we are going to build a new house, too. And we love the old house more and more the process is proceeding !!!! And we love the north side, too. My friend has got a house in PdS and also palheiro in the vineyards near Sao Vicente and more and more time he spends in that palheiro. Enjoy life ❤
bad idea, wrong place, too expensive... I have it better...it's actually my dream place....and I am considering showing it to you
Jackson Groves did the same in the north side of the island too
He restored an old house? I didn't know that. I thought we only did hikes.
@@joenandamalie Working progress project, not finish yet
Love to watch more of this renovation of this stone house as I just inherited my father’s stone house in Ribeira brava but Perry clueless of the whole process….keep the videos coming guys
P.s I was just there and disappointed that I didn’t see you guys 🤪😃
I would love to see you guys renovate a property! We are also thinking about maybe moving to Madeira and renting while we renovate, but we have 3 kids so the logistics (and taxes) are difficult.
0:25 “Amelia and I” 🙏 Please say the other person first, it is polite and the correct English grammar. ‘Me and Amelia” sounds rude and like a 3 years old speaking. 🙏
don't do it - the lack of access will be a huge problem when you'll try to renovate / get materials / machinery etc.
Hi Guys, im new on your channel, I was drawn to this video by the title, Madeira it's definitely a paradise island.
I like what you intend to do with this property, however I think you are missing a couple of very important points, the fact you haven't got car access to your property, will make the all project a lot more costly than you think, I'm also certain that being surrounded by other houses your privacy will be next to inexistence
Also keep in mind you are most likely to lose that view in the near future by new buildings being built in front of your property, believe me it will be a matter of time!
I don't want to sound to negative, i'm just being realistic and I think you should have that in consideration.
It would be a lot easier if you start a project where you have no neighbours nearby, you would have a lot more privacy and be able to do a lot more.
Not sure if you already bought the property or not, if you did I trully wish you the best of luck and I will be looking forward to witness the transformation
Welcome to the family. Thanks for your input. You actually cant build anything in front due to the planning (pdm).
I’d love you guys doing this for you ❤ it’s brilliant place beautiful location, so if you can, go for it 😍👌🏽🤍