Installed Evil Energy Catch Cans On Both My 2016 & 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins Trucks.
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- What’s up everybody. In todays video, I will be installing oil “catch cans” on both of my diesel trucks. My wife’s truck is a 2018 Cummins (Non-Deleted) and my truck is a 2016 Cummins (Deleted & Tuned).
The purpose of a catch can is to prolong the life of your turbo, because by factory, the combusted gas coming off the top of the crank case is routed back down to the turbo and unfortunately, this combusted gas coming off the crank case contains dirty oil and sludge. A “catch can” will capture this oil and sludge, allowing fresh air to be routed to your turbo or you can route the air to the atmosphere using the included breather/filter. This is a very inexpensive upgrade that can save your turbo from prolonged abuse.
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10/6/22 Update: I did get a check engine light on my wife’s truck after a few days. I assume the computer does not like the bottom hose plugged. I plugged in a OBD2 port scanner and cleared the codes and had no issues after. If it ever does come back on I can always add a hose from the “out” port back down to the hose below, remove the plug, and connect the hoses with a sleeve and 2 small clamps.
10/21/22 Update: The check engine light came on again. I added the hose from the “out” port of the catch can back down to the bottom hose that I originally plugged, reset the codes, and have had no issues since. 
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I left the top plugged and put the filter on the return barb. It works great. I do see some mist when coming to a stop or at traffic lights. I'm going to get some more hose and put the filter on that and connect the hose to the return barb/line and hide the filter further down out the way.
This might be one of the better catch can videos for these trucks on the tube
You can simply attach a hose to the valve cover and run it into a hole in your frame. It’s free rust protection, and does not make a mess. All this catch can business is not needed in my opinion.
Aftermarket catch cans are a great idea. Only potential issues I see are that if the catch can overflows and hot oil comes out through the filter, that oil could catch fire as it drips on the hot exhaust manifold. You are also more likely to drip oil on the exhaust when taking it apart due to being mounted so closely to the turbo instead of higher, which is going to make dumping it out more involved than just unthreading the bottom section of the can.
You have to gut the ccv filter if you havent. The pressure the turbo relieve will try to push out pretty much every seal the motor has when the motor doesnt have the turbo to suck the wir through the filter.
Very nice Camera work, and good explanations. On my F-150 Ecoboost engine, my catch can "out" line goes to my intake manifold fitting, and of course the PVC line goes into the catch can IN side. and my turbos are fed from the air box for the Ford 2.7 and 3.5 engines., FYI Ford guys & Gals. But almost same easy Install. Cheers from Motown!
i would personally run the catch can with the line back to the intake. For 1 , if you get an aftermarket air intake there should be little to no negative pressure in the intake system , meaning its not really pulling a ton of air through the PCV but instead just relieving pressure. Second you WANT to have slight vacuum on the crank case , any pressure in the crank case is technically bad , too much with blow out seals and gaskets , as well as cause a loss in engine performance than CAN be measured on the dyno.
the catch can is going to catch 90% of your particulate if you keep it clean , draining it at every oil change. With the reduced vacuume on the pcv system by upgrading the intake system and filter as well as keeping a clean intake filter , and adding this catch can which is serviceable and cleanable i would think there is absolutely zero reason to worry about a harmful amount of particulate making it to the turbo. Possibly super fine oil mist but by the time it hits the turbo even the mist will have been filtered if you buy a high quality catch can that has a bronze or metallic filter element / media in it.
That would nullify the EGR delete on his truck. The point is to breathe cleaner air into the engine instead of oily used gasses. These diesels make more than enough positive crankcase pressure, so much so that blow-by is a serious issue and pressure needs to be decreased.
When you watch videos of trucks with diesel engines for sale, they often unscrew the oil filler cap and set it atop the tube to demonstrate how severe the the blow-by is. That's why many Cummins owners upgrade their valve covers with ones that have multiple ports to help ventilate the excess pressure either to a catch can or the atmosphere.
@@McCallieOrchestraso I’m curious would you run this back to the turbo? Or plug that line like he did and let it vent to atmosphere? I feel like if the oil is being filtered well it’s not a huge deal for that turbo and by “theory” should help keep it lubricated? And would still keep that pressure down? Mind you I am not talking about a deleted truck and am seeing if this is worth putting on my truck which isn’t deleted and don’t plan on it
@@gwood69, if you mean back to the turbo as in plumbing into the line that sends oil from the engine to the turbo, I don't think that would work because the oil traveling from the engine to the turbo is under pressure. You would risk sending that oil to the catch can instead of to the turbo so the turbo could burn up quickly by running dry and the catch can or a hose would have to give at some point and puke out your engine oil.
Engine oil pressure when running should be around 60 psi and even if you plumb a line from that system at an opposite angle or with a check valve, you would still have actual engine oil flowing out of your engine or a check valve either causing the same issue, or not having any purpose at all depending on at what pressure rating it is set to open. Some have tried something similar by using no catch can and venting into the exhaust but that would be very difficult to get to function as desired.
If you mean expending just the gasses from the catch can to the air intake between the filter and turbo, that would be pretty much duplicating or reinstalling an EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system. Whether dirty and used or fresh and clean, the engine's internals are slinging oil under more pressure than it can take on a modified engine, which is why we want to ventilate and let those gasses escape. Just like fog, that oily mist that expels as gas when ventilated to a catch can will accumulate as messy, liquid oil once it is sitting still, resting in the catch can.
Sending oily mist back to the intake has two advantages, being cleaner than letting it drip to the atmosphere, and supposedly, better emissions. Severe drawbacks of the EGR include letting that spent oil splatter all over the compressor wheel of a turbo, then gunking up the intercooler, and coating sensors for things like IAT (Intake Air Temperature). None of those parts should be in contact with anything other than clean, dry air. When the mist travels with the intake air through the above mentioned parts, then the head and to the pistons, it might also affect the injectors, but should mostly burn with the fuel and air when it all gets compressed. Most owners who remove the EGR system reduce headaches and have a cleaner, healthier, longer lasting, more efficient engine.
Yes, I expect you could just plug or pinch the EGR's feed to the intake but I am not familiar enough to know exactly how or where. Yes, crankcase ventilation should still relieve pressure to improve and prolong the health of your engine even on a stock vehicle. If you do install a catch can, I recommend installing it higher than where the gasses exit the engine. But added ventilation is likely going to benefit you less than other mods if you are not having issues with the system. I would invest in upgrading the air intake, exhaust, transmission, injectors, gauges, and a chip first if you haven't already.
In short, I would definitely not run oil through a diesel's air system, dirty or clean. By the time that oily mist gets to the intake, it has already been run through the engine where it has contacted potential sludge and tiny bits of metallic wear particles so even if the oil was just changed, it can only be considered cleaner, not truly clean.
Some aftermarket Cummins tappet covers have baffled ventilation blocks that capture most of the thicker, more solid liquid oil particles so it drains right back into the engine. This will probably be sufficient for most daily driver tow rigs. It might even work to run hoses from ventilated valve covers into those, but you run the risk of adding more air pressure into the engine where you don't want it. If you are like me and live on a farm where the truck ventures on steep inclines and sidehills, one of those tappet vents has the potential to just dump engine oil right out the side so that's something to consider with the vehicle's overall usage.
Because there is so much internal pressure, I do not know of anyone who has designed a successful return system for a catch can for one of these engines. A transparent can mounted where it is easy to view under the hood seems like the safest idea to me so you can just drain it into an empty bottle without making a mess. Or, perhaps, have a valve you can open at the tappet cover or the oil pan so the catch can could drip down through the engine when it is not running or when you change the engine's oil. Definitely better for the environment than spilling to the atmosphere. I used to hang an empty soda bottle from the crank case vent hose under my 12 valve to capture some of the oil but it didn't hold up long term. If the catch can you choose is not clear, you will likely have to check the dipstick to know when it needs to be drained and every engine is going to be different.
If you want to inject something into the intake system, water/methanol or propane can be safely regulated to the intake horn or directly into the intake plenum of the head. I wouldn't inject anything before the intake side of the intercooler, definitely not before the turbo. Imagine you have water inside the boost tubes, on the compressor wheel blades, or in the intercooler at below freezing temperatures; a significant amount of accumulation at very cold temps could cause issues.
Some have experimented with spraying a mist of water on the exterior of the intercooler, not sure of the results. Race trucks often use a water to air intercooler for brief competitions but the safest way for that is still as a heat exchanger unless it returns to the engine just as the air enters the head but too much water can literally put out the flame. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the time / video and to explain everything w/o aaa /ooooo uuu for 2 min lol
Why not use both ports, I mean the catch can is catching all the gunk, iam going to run my out on the can back to the turbo intake, this will pull some vacuum from crank case, seems like other way it will bleed off just fine, but at high rpms iam not sure, thanks for the video,...it did help me with routing everything 😁 cheers
I did throw some code so I added a hose from the out port back to the turbo intake and that helped. My wife's truck is in the shop now for 2 weeks so far with leaking oil from the primary so it needs a new gasket and new engineered bolts for some reason as they said a new bulletin came out from the factory to use new style bolts. Still don't have it back yet but when it's done I'll look at the catch can again.
@@DieselLegiancedid you remove the filter from the top when you reinstalled the Turbo return line?
@callsignkillerb2u214 no but I eventually sold the truck
i was thinking same thing why chance not having enough neg pressure coming from ccv
Thank you
Excellent video ! Even I can install after watching…thank you
Works best if your truck is older of if it’s is deleted and/or tuned. Some of the newer trucks with all the emissions equipment can throw codes if you use a catch can.
I have a 2012 Cummins 6.7 L deleted and tuned. The CCV delete is next. Thx
I “THINK” it’s better to have the air from the engine going in the outlet port plug the inlet port and install the filter on the top. This way the oil mist has to travel further! Install the stainless in the little piece with the holes in it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
More diesel vids bro
You all can buy one without the filter on top
By adding the second house erase the engine light ? I just added a catch can to my ram and the engine light is not going away
Did you plug the top (remove filter)? The newer trucks have very strict electronic censors. If you can’t clear the code, you may need a tuner to override this censor or you may not be able to use a catch can.
Can I use the breather on top even tho my engine is turbo?..or do you recommend leaving it blocked off
I’d advise to use the breather if possible unless you throw codes and need to block it off.
Your getting codes because you installed the breather, newer cars are a close loop. Take off the breather filter clear all codes and you should be good.
That’s what I figured too.
good video thanks, looks as if the atf stick on the wifes truck is going to be kinda hard to pull??
do u think some sort of media can be used in the bottom of the catch can to absorb the oil or would it block the exit to the top filter???
I’ve seen others add a steel wool type pad on the bottom. I deleted my crank case filter which was saturated from previous owner. 🤷🏽♂
I read this throws codes on pressure differential, can you reprogram delete it, one guy said he has to reset it continuously on a diesel FB page.
It can throw codes but if deleted it usually won’t.
Can you use that Same hole in the turbo to put nitrous
Have you had any issues with excessive pressure after install? I did filter delete and I’m getting oil coming out of my dipstick. If I hook it back up to factory it’s fine but I notice I’m leaking oil at my turbo. I recent ordered the catch can and am going to install it to see if that fixes my issue.
You have to gut the CCV Filter in the valve cover. In stock form, the turbo aids in drawing through the restrictive filter. You need to gut it if you vent to the atmosphere.
Get a mightymouse catch can
It has plug when it vaccums in it plugs up and if there’s pressure it releases
If that makes sense lol
@@hectord4936 It has a one-way valve? Interesting, I will take a look at that. If someone already has the catch can you could retrofit a one-way valve to achieve the same end results.
I’ve got an 07 leaks like a mf probably cause of the clogged oem shitty CCV with 270k miles on it. Possibly burning oil because of that CCV also, I don’t care about it leaking any more honestly so I think I’m gonna run a hose from the out of the catch can to a bottle for extra ventilation cause why not
You could always replace the ccv filter but double check the ccv filter seal is not damaged
I have a 07 Megacab and got the same set up you got. Month later started leaking the excess oil out the filter…let me know how yours turn out…Aloha 🤙🏽
I hope it works better but oil leaking out is better than oil pushed into your turbo
u should NOT have that much oil coming out, when is the last time u changed ur crankcase filter it might be saturated???
I actually had a recall issue on the bolts holding the primary cover on. It’s all fixed now.
I have the same problem, what have you done to catch oil coming out ?
@@meseahunt i thought the reason to install catch can was to not use ccv anymore
First time 6.7 owner, i bought the same catch can as you yet to install it though. i have a little elbow and a ccv filter that had came on the truck and would like to put a catch can on. I have a aftermarket S467 turbo with second gen manifold. Im not sure if the oem ccv is stripped id imagine it is ill look before i install. But my question is if i plug the out would that cause harm to the engine at all. I know with stock none deleted youd want to route it to the turbo. But im just wondering what i should do with this
It’s hard to say, but if you’re not deleted, you might throw codes on your dash. You might have to route the out Port from from the catch can down to the turbo hose.
@@DieselLegianceno she’s deleted ill just throw it on and see what happens may end up needing to port not sure, everything’s aftermarket on my air system making it a little confusing for me but ill figure it out, thanks though
@gavingeiger7319 I put one on my deleted truck and capped the out port on the side and just used the little filter on top and had no issue.
Do you really that top attachment? Or can you do without it?
Depending on your system, if it’s not deleted, the top hole would need plugged and “out” port needs hose routed down back to turbo.
My 08 is deleted and I keep getting a service soon light
How did you go from 3/4 hose from your ccv cover to the catch can which i believe only has 5/8 fittings? And what is the steel wool used for that they send with the kit?
You didn't notice the hose clamp? 🤔🤣
Could I do this same set up with the atmosphere filters on a Infiniti vq37vhr motor ?
It's possible as the van is universal but depending on your cars computer system, and how advanced it is, without any kind of a tune it might throw codes.
Hi, did it throw some codes still after connecting the out?
It did throw a code, still ran fine though. I just cleared it. I eventually took it off as I needed to get some recalls fixed. But, I wonder if plugging the top port instead of a small filter would create better pressure to stop throwing codes?
This was my question. I think I'm going to route mine back to the turbo. The catch can should in theory catch all the oil before it gets to the turbo. But if it's routed to the turbo it'll still create vacuum and not throw codes
Did your wife's truck throw any codes
Yes, I then tried to connect the “out” port hose back down below and eventually it threw a code. I ended up taking it off. One thing I didn’t try which I might is plug the top vent hose (remove mini filter) and plug the hole. I wonder if that allows too much vent and the censor notices and throws a code but not f it were sealed more maybe it wouldn’t?
You ever do an update?
Sorry, never did. I kept throwing codes as my wife’s truck is not deleted and never had a chance to try plugging the top hole instead of using the filter and run the “out” hose back down to the turbo.
What brand exhaust pipe did you use exhaust delete
Nothing yet, still factory. I had a code come up. I then added a hose from the out port down to the bottom hose to complete the cycle. Ran good but had to get warranty work done at dealer so removed the can for now. I am looking into tunes so I don't throw anymore codes.
Did it throw any codes after install???
Yes, I had to reroute it from the out port back down to the turbo. But then I ended up selling the truck.
what are you running for a programmer
I ended up running a 2nd hose from the can out port down to the bottom hose that I plugged. It worked for a little while until I got another code. I had to remove the can for now as the truck is at the dealership getting warranty work done but after it's done I may look into a tuner.
@@DieselLegiance
I thought your truck was totally deleted? Your not running a programmer? Also mine keeps throwing the perform service light,, but mines all deleted as well,, I'm running EFI for a programmer
My gray 2016 Cummins is deleted and I have the blue catch can on mine and I don't have any issues or codes. I have an EFI Live tuner on my truck. My wife's red 2018 Cummins is not deleted yet and hers threw codes with the catch can but I also have oil leaking from the primary from factory issues and possibly a water pump but that's on recall so the dealer is fixing everything under warranty so I removed the can for now. I was not 100% sure if the codes were coming from those issues or the can.
@@DieselLegiance yes sir I was talking about your grey truck,, my EFI is a mess ,, trying to get the tunes from the programmer correct,, who did you go through for yours
I went direct to Ryan from EFI years ago but can't do that anymore. My 2016 tune is fine but I've seen other tuners available online.
Try updates via www.efilive.com/download-efilive?fbclid=PAAaausdZ9vrDdUNnATGoJYnUfnZBuuc7mGUDeiFmot89tfjSE8be8NpwxEw8
Or buy new via www.dieselpowerproducts.com/2019_ram_cummins_programmers
Bro they're made in China 😢
Delete that thing already