This 2006 Ford E350 has a misfire on cylinder #8. It also has some O2 sensor codes. Send us a postcard: Watch Wes Work P.O. Box 106 Fulton, IL 61252 Send us an email: mail@watchweswork.com
wes,,i wouldnt know about vacation,,never had one in 20 yrs..but had a 10 yr working holiday in cairns, qld..no one works in qld..its too nice..[ no snow.].27c every day...
Helpful hint for those taking any thing in to be serviced. Clean it out. I work on boats and I don’t know how many tons of camping gear and fishing equipment I have moved just to be able to step into the rig. Thanks from all the techs in advance😀
I once chased my wife down the street on her way to the mechanic because there was an empty chip packet in the glovebox. Yeah. I think maybe I took the "clean the car out before sending it to get fixed" thing a little too far that day.
mate you are so right some i have work on takes half a day just to fined the hood release so now when they come in and i see them if its a mess i tell them of the extra charge for cleaning they soon clean it out them self when it a charge on them
If I hit a wall and have to breakdown and take it to a shop, I fully cleanout and wash the vehicle from top to bottom. My hope is to show the mechanic that I care about it and hopefully they'll take extra care. Maybe they'll at least not just break every plastic fastener without a thought of putting in a few new ones.
@@BrennanHoyt yes me the same but then i never let it get like that in the first place and by the way you speak you are the same look after your car and it will look after you have rubbish bag hanging off back of head rest all rubbish goes in there then the bin at sirvo if away or bin at home
Hope you and the family enjoyed the break, and very good to see plenty of work, judging by the parking lot. Ah yes, 4.00 p.m. Friday afternoon. Usually time for broken manifold studs, a leak you hadn’t noticed, and the parts due at midday yet to arrive. At least on this occasion all went well. Kind regards.🇦🇺
I know this video was a year ago but maybe this could help someone. 😊 I bought a Ford E350 back in November of 2023 and it took me until March of 2024 to get it registered because of the “O2 sensor”. I found out it did not have an O2 sensor and Ford determined that one of the alternators needed to be replaced. (They had to replace my batteries to figure that out.) It ran great for a while after they did that!
Looking at all the work to get at that coil and plug it makes me so much happy to have my step van with the same engine setup. Taking the doghouse cover off gives you room to access all the plugs without having to open the hood.
I still do have 2 well technically 3 keys. Driver's side door is different key cuz it's from a different truck and I'm too lazy to rip the door apart to swap cylinders
Holy light saber Skywalker!! That's one huge trouble light! Going to have to add one of those to the arsenal.... Well Done on church bus. Safe travels Perry
Oh the bad memories ! I had a commercial E250 too. A tough workhorse built to last. The worst part, as you mentionned, was working on the engine, even for regular maintenance. 😱
i had a misfire on cylinder 2 due to either ignition coil or spark plug and told a lady at the shop and she registered me for an entire coil & plug replacement. They were not happy to give me free labor and I was not happy paying for 16 parts when i only needed one. runs like a dream tho
A coworker had a ‘99 civic. Still going strong when he sold it at 410,000 miles. Manual windows, locks. If it’s not installed you don’t have to pay to have it fixed.
I've enjoyed the noble church van. A 2001 Ram 3500 15 passenger van. The drive home from the country where this was parked was interesting, owing to the mismatched tires on one side. It was like driving a section of hallway down the road.
Hmmmm.. if the spark plugs have some low impedance path that will current stress the coilpak as they're not designed to handle a much higher current - or transient... my theory not a fact :)
Before a vacation - those that really should have fixed it when it broke last vacation. After a vacation - those that broke down on vacation, but need the vehicle to be running "next week".
My fun with the dog house has been on E 350 diesels. Always took me longer to clean up the oil tracks than your vacuum job took you. But boy it'd slide right out.
A lot of times you can just push down on the red seat latch part and the belt ringer will quit my old 2003 F150 does that and I just push on the latch red lock and it will stop just saying
working on vans suck no matter what the manufacturer access sucks only van I could work fully around was one of the old 60's Mystery machine type van where the engine sat between the seats with a doghouse cover in between
Why do spark plugs last this long in cars but my lawn mower's manual and dealer insist the spark plug needs to be changed every year in my mower? Just to sell more plugs?
I am the fleet mechanic for a commercial bakery in San Luis Obispo,California we have 20 of these vans, I keep coils and plugs in stock in my shop all the time. That cylinder #8 is real easy to get too. And now coils are so inexpensive compared to years ago.
@@mr_canoehead completely agree, as a 39 year Mastertech. As with everything In life there’s pro and cons to both the trucks accessibility and as you mentioned with the vans the rear cylinders. Thanks Mr Canoehead for your reply,there’s not many of us out there that still get our hands dirty. 👍
Funny how the uninitiated will pop the hood on a short nose van and think "everything must be impossible to reach" until they learn about the interior doghouse
@@Onewheelordeal Yep, though I was not totally expecting Ford to have one due to the more prominent snout, but I guess, even they do have one, just does not intrude as much as Chevy and Dodge do inside. Loved how Wes "broke" it by removing the front part I think unintentionally, LOL.
@@Onewheelordeal I owned a diesel Bedford CF, very short bonnet and doghouse, it was the centre of the little 4 pot that was hard to get to ! There’s always something, in that case there was very little height through the firewall.
...."And it was written.. ........''He taketh his broken cart to the temple of Salt & Pepper bearded one who lived among the corns whereupon he bore witness to watch Wes work. He was awed as the wise one raised his hands above him.., he cast a brilliant light that appeared from the box and then he read aloud inscriptions taken from the book of tablet according to E350 5.4... He spoketh unto the multitudes of the UA-cams.., he looked down among the 8 cylinders and said...One of you will betray me....He then laid his hands upon the sinner and cast out the demon and the code in which it stood for. He said "Go now and misfire no more..... And it was done.
A misfire in a church van? Could it be..... SATAN?! (There will be 2 people who get that SNL reference simply because they're as old as I am...) Thanks for a mid-week video!
I used to work in an engine exchange shop 20 years ago and routinely had to change out engines in those vans. After replacing a few it got easier but those were my least favorite jobs.
It's like the engineers challenge each other to come up with the hardest to service design. I'd love it if these companies would force their engineers to work as service techs for a year before they turn them loose designing new stuff.
I worked at a place that had one with a power stroke. I know Wes has worked on those too. I opened the hood one day to work on it , promptly said nope, and called a tow truck. My hats off to anyone that works on those.
@@ajcampbellconstruction6504 You have to pull the body for most work. We had two flooded 6.0 cutaways sent out as trainer vehicles. I cut most of the dashboard out to make the engine accessable for training new techs.
@@ajcampbellconstruction6504 I had no choice, it was an engine shop. LOL, But yes, they were no fun to work on although I learned a few tricks to make the job easier. I remember one van I had to do twice because the first engine had the wrong camshafts installed, they had no signal rings for the cam sensors.
It is sometimes useful to examine the condition of a unresponsive O2 sensor. I had a situation where the engine was running rich, the O2 sensor was unresponsive and I found it was covered in thick soot deposits. Moving its tip in and out of propane flame while measuring its voltage output I figured the soot was blanketing it’s ability to sense oxygen and so I burnt the soot off. Risky, but this fixed it and it cost nothing. The rich condition turned out to be nothing more than low coolant levels delaying the engine from entering closed loop. The dud O2 sensor was an effect of the condition not the cause. Once the engine was fixed the cleaned up O2 sensor worked fine.
I've owned several econolines. I take out at least the passenger seat and 2 dash trim pieces on either side of dog house. Going back together, I'll put a little lithium grease on the trim panel clips. It keeps the plastic clip holder from getting broke.
Have you removed a cylinder head with out removing the engine? I did it once years ago, now every time I get a cylinder job on the ecoline the engine comes out.
I had a 77 E-150, when I was stationed in Illinois. It had a bad habit of freezing the throttle cable in the winter. The only quick fix, was open the inside cover, manually set the choke, start the engine, and let the engine heat thaw out the cable. Usually only happened after driving in slushy snow.
Wife had a Crown Vic one time. She was on the phone with me and all of a sudden it just starts bucking, I could hear it through the phone. I drove it and swore it was the tranny. Took it into the shop and the say no its a miss. Took it to Ford....sat in the shop ALL day (not kidding) They come back and say i was injectors and they all need replaced at $65 a piece, might as well been a million. So I get a couple at the junk yard and put them in...bo different. Rig up a test stand with tubing full of carb cleaner and test clips to open the injector, hit with the air compressor....they work fine including old ones. Someone suggested to swap coils....made no difference. Finally decided to try plug wires and voila!. Plug wire just decided to burn out like a light bulb. Never would have suspected it how sudden it happened. Took a week to diagnose with no scanners and chasing bad info from the dealer!
I helped my buddy with a misfire on his 4.6. Plugs helped for a week, then came back. Looked at the coils, there were 3 different brands on it. At 250k miles, I said "best practice is to do plugs & coils all at once". 8 rockauto coils later, running smooth. Then the transmission range sensor started acting up... sometimes life just rolls with the punches on these old rigs
For all the whining people do about the high prices of fuel and groceries, every time I’m out and about the volume of traffic is not to be believed! The grocery stores, big box stores, restaurants, etc their parking lots are filled to capacity. Crazy!
7 years ago i was told my 03 f150 5.4l 2v needed a bank one cat, this was at 240k miles. Today at 385k miles that cat is still there. Truck runs fine, no power loss. Fixed code problem with 2 spark plug non-fowlers on the rear o2 sensor. Used the same trick in my 08 edge when it started throwing codes. Totally smoked?
I used to drive an '88 F350 extended van as a work rig. Got it used, drove it for ten years, 460 fuel injected. Any time I had to work on it was a jaw-tightening experience. When I didn't do the work myself, I always made sure the area was cleaned out and accessible for the guy going in. Didn't figure it was the mechanics job to clean my mess. I guess to some folks they don't mind paying for room service. That should be on the time sheet with a pre-drop off clause. It doesn't hurt so bad when you get shop rate for cabin cleaning.
Ah the econoline chassis - For major engine repairs, be it gas or diesel, I’ve found it’s way easier on my back and my sanity to just lift the whole body right off the chassis. Disconnect some wiring, plumbing, ebrake cable, unbolt the master cyl and pull it off the booster, fuel filler hose, pull the steering shaft off the gearbox, ground straps, and about 16 body mount bolts, and up she goes an hour later. Makes life so much easier, especially if you have to pull a cyl head, a whole engine, or do just about anything on a powerstroke.
This is an example of working smarter *and* harder! :P All kidding aside, it sounds like you have an efficient system you came upon by thinking outside of the constraints of the shop manual - respect!
I have the same policy on coil and plug replacement. I had the coil fail on the same cylinder on a 3.6 Acadia and once I replaced the plug it resolved the coil failure issues. I always use original oem parts.
Atleast those frames did not rot out completely. My 05 4 runner had over 200K miles was in perfect condition except for the frame completely rotted out. Such a shame.
Good little video. Yes definitely understand the issue with the check engine light. But when they don't won't to take care of all the issues at once. It does come back. Wes thanks for sharing and have a great week ✌️
Oh yeah, my dad’s 2004 F250 did the exact same thing with the seat belt dinger. It would keep silent as long as you didn’t take it out of park, at which point it would harass you constantly, even if the shifter is returned to park. Only way to shut it up is to cycle the key. Very irritating. Though I guess they realized it was gonna be irritating, because the owner’s manual describes the process for completely disabling the belt warning. It’s a bit involved, and takes a few attempts before I got the timing right, but WELL worth the effort just for some damn peace and quiet.
I fixed the AC on my Jeep Commander the same way - bought the block-off kit, got a Hazard Fart manifold set and vacuum pump, added some ozone killer and hurrah! One item (of a list of thousands) Mrs Harris can no longer complain about. (Oddly enough, I am also on that list)
You change the plug with a bad coil because the plug will most likely be fouled or will foul out soon from unwanted buildup and will be carbon tracked from burn off of unused fuel.
That sounds good, but with that engine the plug could break when you try to remove then you have use a new tool to get the broken piece out. More expense. At least now you don't have to pull the head to get the broken piece out. Personally the only way I would have a vehicle with that engine someone would have to give it to me. I have a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, had the same problem, I replaced the coil and it was fine that was about a year ago. I did take the plug out and clean it , so I doubt I'll have any problems with the plug.
I find cleaning the MAF sensor on tritons usually takes care of misfires. Had a 1998 Expedition with a 4.6, always changing the #4 and #8 plugs, due the cowl shape it would always get water into those cylinder wells.
You might as well go ahead and replace that MAF. These things are pretty much wear parts as they wear over time. Its pretty much the first thing I replace right away when I buy a used car >90k miles.
@@Chris-yy7qc I owned a 1994 Ford Explorer for 16 years. My mechanic offered to clean instead of replace the MAF sensor several times, first because it was a part costing several hundred dollars and later because it wasn’t available.
@@Pamudder Cleaning doesnt fix it. Check the Airmass on an OBD reader. Even if cleaned the air mass measured is usually read too low by old sensors. So in the end the engine is not running right and loses performance. You shouldve bought a new sensor when it was still available tbh.
Vacation is so painful. You work so hard to try and get things done that the first 3 days of vacation you're wiped. I wish the OEM coils from Ford weren't so expensive - last time I did this for a 4.6 2v it was $72 for one, aftermarket it was that price for all 8. I know OEM is more reliable...but that's pretty steep if you're trying to convince somebody that they should replace all 8.
Need a fancy new tool?
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Thanks! I was going to ask….
Im curious as well for the scan tool, looking to have a bit more diag freedom from the last thinktool scanner I bought
How about that little green light that aids all your adventures?
@@colinklang Maxxeon
wes,,i wouldnt know about vacation,,never had one in 20 yrs..but had a 10 yr working holiday in cairns, qld..no one works in qld..its too nice..[ no snow.].27c every day...
I'm moving from Texas back to the Quad Cities because watching Wes made me miss working on rusty junk
aside from the fact that Texas is a sucky place.
I think you're overdue for a psych evaluation...
Helpful hint for those taking any thing in to be serviced. Clean it out.
I work on boats and I don’t know how many tons of camping gear and fishing equipment I have moved just to be able to step into the rig. Thanks from all the techs in advance😀
I once chased my wife down the street on her way to the mechanic because there was an empty chip packet in the glovebox. Yeah. I think maybe I took the "clean the car out before sending it to get fixed" thing a little too far that day.
Never occurred to me to not clean out a car before taking it in for service. Oh well.
mate you are so right some i have work on takes half a day just to fined the hood release so now when they come in and i see them if its a mess i tell them of the extra charge for cleaning they soon clean it out them self when it a charge on them
If I hit a wall and have to breakdown and take it to a shop, I fully cleanout and wash the vehicle from top to bottom. My hope is to show the mechanic that I care about it and hopefully they'll take extra care. Maybe they'll at least not just break every plastic fastener without a thought of putting in a few new ones.
@@BrennanHoyt yes me the same but then i never let it get like that in the first place and by the way you speak you are the same look after your car and it will look after you have rubbish bag hanging off back of head rest all rubbish goes in there then the bin at sirvo if away or bin at home
Hope you and the family enjoyed the break, and very good to see plenty of work, judging by the parking lot. Ah yes, 4.00 p.m. Friday afternoon. Usually time for broken manifold studs, a leak you hadn’t noticed, and the parts due at midday yet to arrive. At least on this occasion all went well. Kind regards.🇦🇺
I know this video was a year ago but maybe this could help someone. 😊 I bought a Ford E350 back in November of 2023 and it took me until March of 2024 to get it registered because of the “O2 sensor”. I found out it did not have an O2 sensor and Ford determined that one of the alternators needed to be replaced. (They had to replace my batteries to figure that out.) It ran great for a while after they did that!
Looking at all the work to get at that coil and plug it makes me so much happy to have my step van with the same engine setup. Taking the doghouse cover off gives you room to access all the plugs without having to open the hood.
I love it when these motors decide to eject a plug, then have to helicoil new threads in a cramped space like the under hood of a van.
It’s been a while since we’ve gotten a Wednesday video! Glad I checked UA-cam today!
Thanks for the bonus mid-week video!
I'm always replacing coil paks. Replaced downstream O2 sensor. I don't use power tools. 2004 E350.
Its busier before a holiday , all those things that have been wrong for the past 5 months need repair NOW!
I remember having 2 keys. One for the doors and trunk then a separate one for the ignition.
I still do have 2 well technically 3 keys. Driver's side door is different key cuz it's from a different truck and I'm too lazy to rip the door apart to swap cylinders
Had a old English car that also had a different keys for the glove box, fuel filler cap, doors and boot. They all looked the same!
Wish I could bring my cars to you. you are definitely a great mechanic. love the content
Holy light saber Skywalker!! That's one huge trouble light! Going to have to add one of those to the arsenal.... Well Done on church bus. Safe travels Perry
Oh the bad memories !
I had a commercial E250 too. A tough workhorse built to last. The worst part, as you mentionned, was working on the engine, even for regular maintenance. 😱
I never go on vacation,for that exact reason lol.
When you come back you wished you never went on vacation
i had a misfire on cylinder 2 due to either ignition coil or spark plug and told a lady at the shop and she registered me for an entire coil & plug replacement. They were not happy to give me free labor and I was not happy paying for 16 parts when i only needed one. runs like a dream tho
e350 superduty XLT
nothing like a good dog that brings you gifts !
My favorite Ford seat belt alarm was on a 76 pickup it had a small fuse you removed and no more annoyance
On my '77 F150 it's as easy as unplugging one wire from the driver's seatbelt retractor. Its alarm is an buzzer.
I drive a 30 year old, 300,000 mile Honda Civic DX sedan, it doesn't even have power windows let alone power door locks lol.
A coworker had a ‘99 civic. Still going strong when he sold it at 410,000 miles. Manual windows, locks. If it’s not installed you don’t have to pay to have it fixed.
Yup .. coil and plug together .. every time.
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Can't believe that they sent that to you to fix with a garbage dump in it
Love watching your videos
That's nothing!
I drive an 04 F150 at work - in park, zero mph, no one even in the seat and it will still scream at you to buckle up. It's the bane of my existence.
I really enjoy watching all u r clips, please keep them coming
Love so much when you post!
Always enjoy your vids, Wes. Thanks for posting.
I've enjoyed the noble church van. A 2001 Ram 3500 15 passenger van. The drive home from the country where this was parked was interesting, owing to the mismatched tires on one side. It was like driving a section of hallway down the road.
ny experience is coming back from a vacation is always more busy than friday before.
You definitely got the best possible diagnosis there. Still not a walk in the park to get to those coils. Friggin’ vans - amirite?
‘Click’ …. You been watching Rainman Ray Repairs??? As always a great show.
Hi Wes from Atlanta, GA
I appreciate the extra content Wes. Keep it up!
I heard the torque wrench click. That's excellent 👍😎
very nice ,, thanks for the video
Hmmmm.. if the spark plugs have some low impedance path that will current stress the coilpak as they're not designed to handle a much higher current - or transient... my theory not a fact :)
Experience is a good teacher, you won't do that again too many times.
They did put enough cool capacity in the dual intake valves area in heads. Making lalve stems bend and wear out roller cams.
great job ... OldTony
Nice one Wes got away with that one 👍
Quick coil swap. Always my go to.
Obi Wan you have the light sabre and the Force I just knew you were a Jedi Master ! Who needs Hufflepuff
Before a vacation - those that really should have fixed it when it broke last vacation.
After a vacation - those that broke down on vacation, but need the vehicle to be running "next week".
Pup isn't the only one in the doghouse in the video.I wonder why Wes didn't take care of the leaky exhaust manifolds?
My fun with the dog house has been on E 350 diesels. Always took me longer to clean up the oil tracks than your vacuum job took you. But boy it'd slide right out.
great video Wes
UK. You forgot the holy water.
give max a bone for me! hey if you lift the coil up a bit when its running if its good you will hear a popping sound when it fires
Great job Wes….
Wow, a Wednesday video. Could this be the beginning of two videos a week?? Thanks for sharing.
You sure luv astropneumatic
Good morning everyone!
Shake it like a polaroid picture.... :D
I’ve had the Astro light for awhile now. I think Eric O also has it.
A lot of times you can just push down on the red seat latch part and the belt ringer will quit my old 2003 F150 does that and I just push on the latch red lock and it will stop just saying
Have you done a video on a Nissan Frontier 4.0, v6, timing chains/water pump video/s?
working on vans suck no matter what the manufacturer access sucks only van I could work fully around was one of the old 60's Mystery machine type van where the engine sat between the seats with a doghouse cover in between
Why do spark plugs last this long in cars but my lawn mower's manual and dealer insist the spark plug needs to be changed every year in my mower? Just to sell more plugs?
I am the fleet mechanic for a commercial bakery in San Luis Obispo,California we have 20 of these vans, I keep coils and plugs in stock in my shop all the time. That cylinder #8 is real easy to get too. And now coils are so inexpensive compared to years ago.
Compared to the pickups, where cylinders 4 and 8 are virtually inaccessible.
@@mr_canoehead completely agree, as a 39 year Mastertech. As with everything In life there’s pro and cons to both the trucks accessibility and as you mentioned with the vans the rear cylinders. Thanks Mr Canoehead for your reply,there’s not many of us out there that still get our hands dirty. 👍
Funny how the uninitiated will pop the hood on a short nose van and think "everything must be impossible to reach" until they learn about the interior doghouse
@@Onewheelordeal Yep, though I was not totally expecting Ford to have one due to the more prominent snout, but I guess, even they do have one, just does not intrude as much as Chevy and Dodge do inside. Loved how Wes "broke" it by removing the front part I think unintentionally, LOL.
@@Onewheelordeal I owned a diesel Bedford CF, very short bonnet and doghouse, it was the centre of the little 4 pot that was hard to get to !
There’s always something, in that case there was very little height through the firewall.
I saw the title and guessed the fix. I always change the plugs as well.
See how wes makes the clean freaks happy?
The ford van are very pissy about spark plugs
…coil in the pile.
...."And it was written..
........''He taketh his broken cart to the temple of Salt & Pepper bearded one who lived among the corns whereupon he bore witness to watch Wes work. He was awed as the wise one raised his hands above him.., he cast a brilliant light that appeared from the box and then he read aloud inscriptions taken from the book of tablet according to E350 5.4...
He spoketh unto the multitudes of the UA-cams.., he looked down among the 8 cylinders and said...One of you will betray me....He then laid his hands upon the sinner and cast out the demon and the code in which it stood for.
He said "Go now and misfire no more..... And it was done.
So nice to see genuine wit and humor in a UA-cam comment these days.
Amen
And my wife and myself just got through reading our 2 scriptures for the night.
Have mercy. If I wasn't laughing my ass off I would be calling sacrilege.
Brilliant
A misfire in a church van? Could it be..... SATAN?! (There will be 2 people who get that SNL reference simply because they're as old as I am...)
Thanks for a mid-week video!
Well now isn't that special. 😄
Dana Carvey
I used to work in an engine exchange shop 20 years ago and routinely had to change out engines in those vans. After replacing a few it got easier but those were my least favorite jobs.
It's like the engineers challenge each other to come up with the hardest to service design. I'd love it if these companies would force their engineers to work as service techs for a year before they turn them loose designing new stuff.
@@pamike4873 Most cars aren't designed to be fixed, just to last long enough to pass warranty
I worked at a place that had one with a power stroke. I know Wes has worked on those too. I opened the hood one day to work on it , promptly said nope, and called a tow truck. My hats off to anyone that works on those.
@@ajcampbellconstruction6504
You have to pull the body for most work. We had two flooded 6.0 cutaways sent out as trainer vehicles. I cut most of the dashboard out to make the engine accessable for training new techs.
@@ajcampbellconstruction6504 I had no choice, it was an engine shop. LOL, But yes, they were no fun to work on although I learned a few tricks to make the job easier. I remember one van I had to do twice because the first engine had the wrong camshafts installed, they had no signal rings for the cam sensors.
Crazy traffic in your area is what 4 cars in a row?
It is sometimes useful to examine the condition of a unresponsive O2 sensor. I had a situation where the engine was running rich, the O2 sensor was unresponsive and I found it was covered in thick soot deposits. Moving its tip in and out of propane flame while measuring its voltage output I figured the soot was blanketing it’s ability to sense oxygen and so I burnt the soot off. Risky, but this fixed it and it cost nothing. The rich condition turned out to be nothing more than low coolant levels delaying the engine from entering closed loop. The dud O2 sensor was an effect of the condition not the cause. Once the engine was fixed the cleaned up O2 sensor worked fine.
Mid-week afternoon delight! Love the brake rotor "embedded" in your bench. Thanks Wes!
"You get a weird look from the parts guy when you order one sparkplug..." LOL you made the beer come out of my nose. Thanks for the laugh.
I've owned several econolines. I take out at least the passenger seat and 2 dash trim pieces on either side of dog house. Going back together, I'll put a little lithium grease on the trim panel clips. It keeps the plastic clip holder from getting broke.
Those evil plastic clips
Have you removed a cylinder head with out removing the engine?
I did it once years ago, now every time I get a cylinder job on the ecoline the engine comes out.
@@artyart31 no, I have not. I did r and r a f350 engine the normal way with the cab on. Didn't seem tpp bad.
@@darrylvohs5526 on the trucks it’s not to bad. On the Econoline it’s the worst.
I had a 77 E-150, when I was stationed in Illinois. It had a bad habit of freezing the throttle cable in the winter. The only quick fix, was open the inside cover, manually set the choke, start the engine, and let the engine heat thaw out the cable. Usually only happened after driving in slushy snow.
The click of a torque wrench always makes me laugh.
Good old 2 valve 5.4l I also change a coil with the spark plug because a misfiring cylinder does Damage spark plugs being Dry Fired @Watch Wes Work
Wife had a Crown Vic one time. She was on the phone with me and all of a sudden it just starts bucking, I could hear it through the phone. I drove it and swore it was the tranny. Took it into the shop and the say no its a miss. Took it to Ford....sat in the shop ALL day (not kidding) They come back and say i was injectors and they all need replaced at $65 a piece, might as well been a million. So I get a couple at the junk yard and put them in...bo different. Rig up a test stand with tubing full of carb cleaner and test clips to open the injector, hit with the air compressor....they work fine including old ones. Someone suggested to swap coils....made no difference. Finally decided to try plug wires and voila!. Plug wire just decided to burn out like a light bulb. Never would have suspected it how sudden it happened. Took a week to diagnose with no scanners and chasing bad info from the dealer!
I helped my buddy with a misfire on his 4.6. Plugs helped for a week, then came back. Looked at the coils, there were 3 different brands on it. At 250k miles, I said "best practice is to do plugs & coils all at once". 8 rockauto coils later, running smooth.
Then the transmission range sensor started acting up... sometimes life just rolls with the punches on these old rigs
What is busier the week before vacation or the week after? The answer to that is YES!
For all the whining people do about the high prices of fuel and groceries, every time I’m out and about the volume of traffic is not to be believed! The grocery stores, big box stores, restaurants, etc their parking lots are filled to capacity. Crazy!
So people should stay home and starve in your mind?
256k miles!! And it’s a ford!! They missed the junkyard on the way to your house.
Yikes Autolights in a Ford Suprised it runs so well to be honest @Watch Wes Work
7 years ago i was told my 03 f150 5.4l 2v needed a bank one cat, this was at 240k miles.
Today at 385k miles that cat is still there.
Truck runs fine, no power loss.
Fixed code problem with 2 spark plug non-fowlers on the rear o2 sensor.
Used the same trick in my 08 edge when it started throwing codes.
Totally smoked?
Yep. Used that trick to get a few through emissions testing.
I used to drive an '88 F350 extended van as a work rig. Got it used, drove it for ten years, 460 fuel injected. Any time I had to work on it was a jaw-tightening experience. When I didn't do the work myself, I always made sure the area was cleaned out and accessible for the guy going in. Didn't figure it was the mechanics job to clean my mess. I guess to some folks they don't mind paying for room service. That should be on the time sheet with a pre-drop off clause. It doesn't hurt so bad when you get shop rate for cabin cleaning.
The Covid masks were a particularly nice touch
@@thomasbrown9402 Church Bus, pretty much a requirement. But, _used_ masks? Bleecch.
How can I distinguish whether I have a 3 valve or 2 valve 5.4?
Now I need to go buy that light. That’s really handy.
Ah the econoline chassis - For major engine repairs, be it gas or diesel, I’ve found it’s way easier on my back and my sanity to just lift the whole body right off the chassis. Disconnect some wiring, plumbing, ebrake cable, unbolt the master cyl and pull it off the booster, fuel filler hose, pull the steering shaft off the gearbox, ground straps, and about 16 body mount bolts, and up she goes an hour later. Makes life so much easier, especially if you have to pull a cyl head, a whole engine, or do just about anything on a powerstroke.
This is an example of working smarter *and* harder! :P
All kidding aside, it sounds like you have an efficient system you came upon by thinking outside of the constraints of the shop manual - respect!
Try that on a shuttle bus….
@@notajp or an ambulance
You must not live in the rust belt. That’s not happening here after a couple winters
So that’s why the front seat well carpeting in old vans is always so grungy. 🤔
Little piece of black tape over the check engine light will solve that problem . 🤣🤣
Well if you get hungry there are plenty of snacks in that POS.
I have the same policy on coil and plug replacement. I had the coil fail on the same cylinder on a 3.6 Acadia and once I replaced the plug it resolved the coil failure issues. I always use original oem parts.
Good to see you're on the way back to normality. Thanks..from the UK.
Could have swore I saw a 3rd Gen 4 Runner in your lot!!?? Must just be there for 300,000 mile oil change! 😁
Atleast those frames did not rot out completely. My 05 4 runner had over 200K miles was in perfect condition except for the frame completely rotted out. Such a shame.
Dammit Wes I’m supposed to be working. Thanks
Sometimes it is nice to get a simple repair. Thanks for the videos, Wes.
Good little video. Yes definitely understand the issue with the check engine light. But when they don't won't to take care of all the issues at once. It does come back. Wes thanks for sharing and have a great week ✌️
Oh yeah, my dad’s 2004 F250 did the exact same thing with the seat belt dinger. It would keep silent as long as you didn’t take it out of park, at which point it would harass you constantly, even if the shifter is returned to park. Only way to shut it up is to cycle the key. Very irritating.
Though I guess they realized it was gonna be irritating, because the owner’s manual describes the process for completely disabling the belt warning. It’s a bit involved, and takes a few attempts before I got the timing right, but WELL worth the effort just for some damn peace and quiet.
Church Van Misfire sounds like the name of a shitty dutch mechanic.
Or it's a Garage Grunge cover band . . . :-)
I fixed the AC on my Jeep Commander the same way - bought the block-off kit, got a Hazard Fart manifold set and vacuum pump, added some ozone killer and hurrah! One item (of a list of thousands) Mrs Harris can no longer complain about. (Oddly enough, I am also on that list)
Are you still under warranty? Did she buy the extended service plan?
@@somebodyelse6673 - Unfortunately, we were waaaaay past the expiration of the warranty. Plus, I'm poor so I need to fix my own vehicles.
3v 5.4L from model year 2009 onward had the resigned heads. They don't have any more issues than other trucks with breaking sparkplugs.
Wednesday video? Bonus! All the best from Northern England.
Astro 151L Under-hood light - also doubles as a light sabre ;-)
You change the plug with a bad coil because the plug will most likely be fouled or will foul out soon from unwanted buildup and will be carbon tracked from burn off of unused fuel.
That sounds good, but with that engine the plug could break when you try to remove then you have use a new tool to get the broken piece out. More expense. At least now you don't have to pull the head to get the broken piece out. Personally the only way I would have a vehicle with that engine someone would have to give it to me.
I have a 2001 Lincoln Town Car, had the same problem, I replaced the coil and it was fine that was about a year ago. I did take the plug out and clean it , so I doubt I'll have any problems with the plug.
@@bertgrau3934 Heck, even then you’d probably have to think about it! LOL!
I find cleaning the MAF sensor on tritons usually takes care of misfires. Had a 1998 Expedition with a 4.6, always changing the #4 and #8 plugs, due the cowl shape it would always get water into those cylinder wells.
You might as well go ahead and replace that MAF. These things are pretty much wear parts as they wear over time. Its pretty much the first thing I replace right away when I buy a used car >90k miles.
@@Chris-yy7qc I owned a 1994 Ford Explorer for 16 years. My mechanic offered to clean instead of replace the MAF sensor several times, first because it was a part costing several hundred dollars and later because it wasn’t available.
@@Pamudder Cleaning doesnt fix it. Check the Airmass on an OBD reader.
Even if cleaned the air mass measured is usually read too low by old sensors. So in the end the engine is not running right and loses performance.
You shouldve bought a new sensor when it was still available tbh.
I thought you were going to have to fix the AC too. That could be interesting.
Vacation is so painful. You work so hard to try and get things done that the first 3 days of vacation you're wiped. I wish the OEM coils from Ford weren't so expensive - last time I did this for a 4.6 2v it was $72 for one, aftermarket it was that price for all 8. I know OEM is more reliable...but that's pretty steep if you're trying to convince somebody that they should replace all 8.
They're down around $35 now.
So, was that the Ford of the Lord?