Another added benefit, is you know what you got when you are done going through everything! you can buy paint jobs everywhere with huge claims of things being done that were not actually being done. You now have a dozer to be proud of! great work!
I have a 450b loader & had it 20 years now so without even having to say it I spent a lot of hours fixing things that broke, my biggest dread is splitting the tracks for clutches replacement after watching you I see it can be done without the 100 ton jacks, I learned a lot watching your videos thank you very much
Thanks for the video and cost breakdown. Great investment and well worth it. I think some people don't realize the time and effort involved in heavy equipment projects, but they also may not appreciate the knowledge and satisfaction you get from the journey. Looking forward to viewing your other videos.
As a kid growing up often times we would grab a handful of sticks and start a small fire under the engine to warm it up. It always worked when it was cold out. I watched a guy blow the head off an engine using way to much ether.
C&C equipment prefers JD machines, rebuilding repair and resale. Great source for parts new and used. Great yt channel as well. Good on you for making it happen, looks great and pushes dirt.
Interesting video bud. I have a 350C and now you have me questioning if the steering clutches are wet on the 350 C as well as the 450. I ordered new rails and pads as the undercarriage was in rough shape with a broken tensioner as well. I haven't gotten into much beyond that yet. Mine is the loader not the dozer. But the car body is the same. Nice for what you have invested. I bought my 350C for $7500 in 2019 knowing it needed the undercarriage. I spent around $4K on the undercarriage parts. Buying a new one means the parts are a little more expensive as there is limited aftermarket. No matter how old of a machine you buy, one thing is certain. You'll be working on it if you use it or not. Better to use it. Things break when you break earth. Cheers bud.
Great video's all of them...I have had a 450b for 30 years now and it has been a huge gift to my horse ranch-hobby farm...It has few problems compared to the modern computerized, def, garbage and I wouldn't part with it for anything, the work it can do landscaping and logging is amazing. Thank you for all your helpfull video's and good luck with your great little cat...
You should be proud of yourself! You accomplished a great deal in restoring that dozer and the subsequent acquired/learned knowledge. All heavy equipment requires maintenance/fixing, there is no getting away from it! You did very well!!! Best wishes.
Nice analysis. Old stuff is cool. My brother in law owns a C model. I think he has had it for almost 20 years. He bought from a friend that had pretty much restored it to “operational” glory (Including new paint and decals). He has had to work on it occasionally over the years, but all in all, has been a great machine for him. Thanks for the video.
Watching you start the dozer in the snow brought back a lot of memories. When I was growing up in Michigan my father had that same dozer. In the winter he would climb up, wiggle the air cleaner off, give it a squirt of ether down the intake, tap the air cleaner back on. Crank it over and it would start right up! Very nice work on renewing the dozer!
You seem like a great and very knowledgeable young man! I wish you were my neighbor! I have a 1984 John Deere 450D! It has 5000 hours on it with a new under carriage! I am almost 70 and love my dozer! It has never been a drug addict! Great job young man!
I personally wouldn't do it any different than you did. Grab an old dozer and go completely through it. Learning all I can repairing it. It's a learning experience for sure. Thanks, great videos. Keep going.
That's cheap! That machine will do $20,000 worth of work (If you hired out) and still be worth $12,000. Great job! Every time you use it for a job you are making money.
Dude your antics and your methods are absolutely awesome your frankness and no bs is refreshing as well I look forward to seeing what you get into next You and your type of tube is what inspires me to keep going with my channel, I have fun doing it and watching guys like you makes it fun and funny too!!
I have a 450B with 4 in 1 Drott blade. got it from a guy who took good care of it, but I paid 12k also. considering your future YT revenue, your experience gained, and your resale value, I think you did well. But your explanations and your overall demeanor are excellent, and I hope you continue with your YT side hustle.
For me it's all about the value of the education. What you have learned from this exercise exceeds the time and money put into it. You are exactly right about buying a "better" machine. Doesn't matter, even if it's new, it's going to have issues. The fact you are intimately familiar with this machine will pay off in the long run. As for the starting performance in cold weather, I've read that there are two types of pistons, the old style would have trouble once you were below 10C and your engine was in good shape. The new pistons will get you going down around 0C. On my unit I also put in a 28MT starter, which is the gear reduction replacement for the 27MT. I think it made a small difference in the starting performance.
Learning is everything. You really can't put a price on experience. Interesting stuff with the different pistons. I think I have heard of that too... as well as the valve height in the cylinder head being very important for cold starting too.
You may already know this but just in case you don’t, a very common problem on these machines that often gets overlooked is, where the frame rails bolts to the trans axle housing. The bolts will get loose and often brake off. This puts a side load on the reverser housing which in turn makes the trans shafts wear against the internals which wipes out the componets. You were lucky to get a machine that the reverser still functions. You need to take a close look at those bolts on the frame rails. I’m in Kentucky and have a 450 straight with that same problem. Been sitting for years. I might sell parts to you very reasonable but the drive for you would be a long one.
Great tips! Are you talking about the bolts that connect the frame rails to the clutch housings? Or the bolts that go through the frame into the bellhousing? Either way yeah I guess they are all important. I found the bellhousing to frame bolts loose and I also found a crack that I had to weld where the rails meet the clutch housings. Ill keep a close eye on all of that going forward.
The education you got from working on this machine was invaluable. My education on watching your thought process and your machining skills was invaluable to me. I'm thinking about purchasing a metal lathe. Not quite up to purchasing a milling machine. Kind Regards, Craig
Years ago yes I would get a fixer upper but age has me buying useable and make up the price difference by putting it to work right away. Time value of money.
My dad and I paid 5500$ for our 450c. Put about 2k into it after that. Our 450B (4in 1 bucket and backhoe attachment ) was a screamin deal at 800 bucks….. it had a viewing window in the block where a rod had came out to say hi. That one took about 4 grand to make nice with a government surplus John Deere diesel
Here in Texas 70s era 450Bs go for more than $10k in partial working condition. Closer to $15k for one needing no obvious work. 450Cs are even more expensive. Every ranch around here has at least one, or the Cat equivalent. They are always pre-electronics models and will be running far beyond the time the electronics models are on the scrap heap. Unless you are using the dozer everyday for a business, it is not feasible to buy one newer. They are much too expensive, even used. Anyone that I could call to fix anything (old equipment, cars, things around the house) will charge far more per hour than I make. So I have always considered the investment in tools and time for fix thing on my own to be sound investments.
I used to fully enjoy working and fixing machines. As I have gotten closer to retirement age I bought a brand new tractor, 2616 Mahindra, a 1.5T mini excavator and a zero turn mower. All 3 arrived with .3 or fewer hours. It helps that my work area is a grass covered driveway with my roof being the sun and stars.
It's a used machine, it will break at some point. I think you did well in getting a dozer with good bones and learning and fixing as you go. From my perspective, you came out ahead on the money you spent and for the use you will get out of it.
Any dollar made back on this platform is a major win. Especially when it’s content on something you’d do anyway with or without the camera. One day the content will pay for itself completely
Great video! I’m not a diesel guy nevertheless I think you’re painful learnng curve will pay big dividends in the future. I’m confident that word will get around with your neighbors and you may be able to earn some extra cash or trade favors. Blah blah blah I’ve learned a lot just watching you. Thanks for your time. 👍
I’ve always bought old and made it like new, hence my newest vehicle being 2004. I’ve wrenched all my life and learning new stuff is what gets my day going by, if I can buy something cheaper that I have to teach myself how to work on it’s better in the long run for me
Naw dude you came out smelling like roses on that deal. Damn good if you ask me. Ran a 550A for a few years, great lil dozer. Start saving money now for the undercarriage. They wear out fairly quick and cost quite a bit. High speed in reverse causes the most wear to the pins and bushings and rails. It would have started without the Cosby sauce. Keep it up and it will require it all the time. Starter bushings and brushes are way cheaper than an inframe kit. Especially if you shoot a lil too much and break a ring or ring land. Great video, thanks.
Thank you! I work really slow honestly, I only use first and second gear. These rails are really getting towards end of life and I want to keep them on here until I get enough work done to justify their replacement. I have mixed feelings on the ether addiction. Both of my other JDs came with ether injection from the dealer. Wondering if JD used a different formulation back in the 70s as to not bust up rings and pistons?
I'm with you, and advocate of inexpensive and repair myself. I have a compact tractor I bought for $800 because the guy could not figure out an over heating issue. $13 radiator cap and I've been using it for years. Servicing everything and a few repairs I'm in tge machine $1k.
Look at it this way. You have a reliable machine and you paid out 10,000. So you are at -10000. Your UA-cam earnings +2000. The money you didn't pay to rent a machine for two months +3000. You are now your own machine specific experienced mechanic +2000. You have a machine to rent out, or so small jobs with +whatever you can make with it, easily more than the balance. You may have put out 10000 but you are going to make that back quick in time, knowledge, experience and friends that need favors.
I own a few older pieces of equipment and my vote is rent newer stuff for big projects spend your time taking the old lady riding on them beautiful trails there and not working on old equipment life is short do what you love if it’s working on old stuff do that but I have more fun trail riding I’ll watch you no matter what I loved your jeep Cherokee vids that’s how I found your channel
Wow, long term viewer, I appreciate that! I still have that grand cherokee... Tore the front axle out of it last wheeling trip. Maybe Ill 4 link it this winter and get it back together.
Parts are a lot higher now ive got 555 loader track adjuster needed a new chrome rod and seal the rod cost 1000 bucks from flint the local dealer in braselton ga the seal was over 100 they are ripoffs heard most jd dealers are sticking it to parts customers and dont even think of new crap
It’s always nice to no what u got by working on it now fixing it yourself good since of accomplishment by the time to spend 1500 bucks to get a rental delivered for a weekend I’d rather do the same thing u done
I think even at 9k it's a great deal because the machine is now good and tight. I have a 70s IH TD7C and I shopped for a mid sized dozer for a long time. In in western NY and there are tons of Deere 450s here that seem to go for 10-20k and they're half worn out and tired.
Out on the west coast I see JD 450's of this vintage on Marketplace and people are asking 20K - 30K. And these are logging dozers that have been beat to hell. Anyone that actually pays that much is certifiable.
I honestly had no idea that you had zero experience working on these old beasts. You attacked with such vigor and understanding that I thought this was just another Saturday for you! 🤣 I'm sure some of that is the power of filming and editing but still, you looked like a pro to me! I'm al in on the buy it cheap and fix it yourself. Seen way too many hack jobs in my life. I'd rather know things were done correctly and/or learn from the mistake of getting it wrong so that I get it right the next time. There's always a next time with this old equipment. 👍
A couple ideas on PDF manuals, I print off the pages I need for the current job, and then put them in a 3 ring binder for next time. Another thing to di is get a cheep tablet and view them with that.
I like how you broke everything down for price and if nobody told you to park it rubber tires so do it don't freeze down to the ground I heard that somewhere
I am like you in that i don’t want to spend much money, and I value learning about the machine as I work on it. However, that approach just doesn’t work unless you have the hours available to work on it and learn. It is easy to over-commit and run out of time in your day, then you have an expensive lawn ornament and frustration, and no machine to accomplish the task you bought the machine for.
Definitely buy older, Everything newer is loaded with unnecessary electronics, And the older equipment is made to last because of its build quality, It’s about time you started another project, Something similar, But not necessarily another dozer, Stay lucky 🇬🇧🇮🇪.
That's a great topic. I have a lot of work lined up for this in the winter/spring. To rent a dozer the best price I could get was 610/day or 1720/week. Delivery is complicated and challenging as we are far off the public road so getting equipment back there is a mess.
I believe that confidence will carry a man when repairing a machine. Its only metal that is designed for this kind of work. After spending probably thirty plus years of my seventy five years here... much is the same from machine to machine.
How much time would you estimate that you have in it ? If you had spent that time at your regular job how much further ahead or behind would you have been ?
I might have 60 hours into this thing. Maybe even closer to 80. So say worst case 80 hours at 50/hr its 4000 in my labor. If I paid someone it would be closer to 8000 in labor I would think. But the knowledge I gained is easily worth the 4000 bucks to me.
I paid a WHOLE lot more for my 350C from C and C Equipment and had to do repairs before using it and it broke down twice and still I have several more repairs that need done and so far UA-cam has paid me 0. So paying extra for a machine that was supposed to be gone over isn’t the best way to go either. In hindsight site I would have been a lot better off to have spent $10,000 or so and fixed things as they come along than spent more so I wouldn’t have to do repairs. I kind of went that way with my new to me skid steer. I have one repair to do but at least it is expected. And it has done some work already.
Ugh I am sorry to hear that! Some things are preventable while other things "just break". But it hurts a lot more when you pay top dollar and still have to fix it. Good luck! I have a 350C as well I am making some videos on.
I did rebuild that whole control system. It was a fair bit of work. I started filming but never made a video because it kind of spiraled out of control. I ended up machining a bunch of stuff, making bushings, replacing pins, etc. Just had to go at it and determine what is making slop and come up with a plan to reduce it.
I have a JD 450c I bought for $4500.00 a year ago. I've got over 9 grand in it and haven't pushed dirt yet. Love your channel but, your prices are extremely low. Keep doing what you're doing. Also, the hydraulic control up/down lever spring, how do you change that? does control body have to be removed from machine? Thanx!
Delivery from the seller to my house was done as a favor from a friend(just paid fuel). It cost me about 1100 to deliver it to my mountain property. 300 for trailer rental and 400 in fuel plus my time (~850 mile round trip), my truck also broke down in the process and the part was 400 bucks. Long story there but I did make a video on it.
I have enough jobs planned within the next year to exceed the cost of a rental machine if all goes well. Rental rate in my area is 720/day plus some delivery challenges. Though a rental machine would probably be faster and easier to operate, I dont really care about speed of work here. I enjoy taking my time in the woods and getting it done
I've seen the things you've been working on ! You are money a head?life is always throughing a wrench in the mix?Murphy has his say aswell soon you have a life you can live with😂😮! You don't have the the time for all of my bs!life is short I'm impressed with what I've seen
Their you have it, another graduate of the *School of Hard Knocks* . (wink, wink,) For some strange reason *skill retention* is very high & long lasting, I wonder 😎😎why.
Shit coming from a farmer wait till you spend 1.5 million on a piece of Deere equipment and never get a full 4 hours of work out of it so new equipment with all these bell and whistles isn't worth it finished my harvest up with a 2001 Deere combine well 2 of them only minor stuff yes Deere took it back
Holy crap that sounds like a mess! Im glad they took it back. The old stuff that we can fix ourselves is nice but the creature comforts are surly lacking.
Another added benefit, is you know what you got when you are done going through everything! you can buy paint jobs everywhere with huge claims of things being done that were not actually being done. You now have a dozer to be proud of! great work!
I agree man!
I have a 450b loader & had it 20 years now so without even having to say it I spent a lot of hours fixing things that broke, my biggest dread is splitting the tracks for clutches replacement after watching you I see it can be done without the 100 ton jacks, I learned a lot watching your videos thank you very much
Great to hear! Yes splitting the track isn't too bad with a pipe welded on and a sledge hammer. A little heat helps too.
Great investment and you are lucky to have such a great small dozer! Blessings and best wishes to your future endeavors!
Thanks for the video and cost breakdown. Great investment and well worth it. I think some people don't realize the time and effort involved in heavy equipment projects, but they also may not appreciate the knowledge and satisfaction you get from the journey. Looking forward to viewing your other videos.
As a kid growing up often times we would grab a handful of sticks and start a small fire under the engine to warm it up. It always worked when it was cold out. I watched a guy blow the head off an engine using way to much ether.
C&C equipment prefers JD machines, rebuilding repair and resale.
Great source for parts new and used. Great yt channel as well.
Good on you for making it happen, looks great and pushes dirt.
I love C&C equipment. Somehow I only found them after I was 75% done this machine. But I have learned a lot from them since.
Interesting video bud. I have a 350C and now you have me questioning if the steering clutches are wet on the 350 C as well as the 450. I ordered new rails and pads as the undercarriage was in rough shape with a broken tensioner as well. I haven't gotten into much beyond that yet. Mine is the loader not the dozer. But the car body is the same. Nice for what you have invested. I bought my 350C for $7500 in 2019 knowing it needed the undercarriage. I spent around $4K on the undercarriage parts. Buying a new one means the parts are a little more expensive as there is limited aftermarket. No matter how old of a machine you buy, one thing is certain. You'll be working on it if you use it or not. Better to use it. Things break when you break earth. Cheers bud.
Thanks for the video. Like my dad always told me- “I’m glad it has you to love it”
Great video's all of them...I have had a 450b for 30 years now and it has been a huge gift to my horse ranch-hobby farm...It has few problems compared to the modern computerized, def, garbage and I wouldn't part with it for anything, the work it can do landscaping and logging is amazing. Thank you for all your helpfull video's and good luck with your great little cat...
You should be proud of yourself! You accomplished a great deal in restoring that dozer and the subsequent acquired/learned knowledge. All heavy equipment requires maintenance/fixing, there is no getting away from it! You did very well!!! Best wishes.
Thank you!
Nice analysis. Old stuff is cool. My brother in law owns a C model. I think he has had it for almost 20 years. He bought from a friend that had pretty much restored it to “operational” glory (Including new paint and decals). He has had to work on it occasionally over the years, but all in all, has been a great machine for him. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for stopping by!!
Watching you start the dozer in the snow brought back a lot of memories. When I was growing up in Michigan my father had that same dozer. In the winter he would climb up, wiggle the air cleaner off, give it a squirt of ether down the intake, tap the air cleaner back on. Crank it over and it would start right up! Very nice work on renewing the dozer!
Thank you! Glad to bring back some memories!
You seem like a great and very knowledgeable young man! I wish you were my neighbor! I have a 1984 John Deere 450D! It has 5000 hours on it with a new under carriage! I am almost 70 and love my dozer! It has never been a drug addict! Great job young man!
Thank you! Enjoy that 450D! There not very common. My neighbor down the road has one, thats probably the only one ive seen in person.
I had a 350 c and 450 c. Bought a cat 239 skid steer and cat 301.5 excavator. Making a lot more money and easier to pull around.
I personally wouldn't do it any different than you did. Grab an old dozer and go completely through it. Learning all I can repairing it. It's a learning experience for sure.
Thanks, great videos. Keep going.
Right on!!!
It was fun learning how things John Deere work on that ole dozer. Great videos. Keep them coming!
That's cheap! That machine will do $20,000 worth of work (If you hired out) and still be worth $12,000. Great job! Every time you use it for a job you are making money.
Thanks 👍
Dude your antics and your methods are absolutely awesome your frankness and no bs is refreshing as well I look forward to seeing what you get into next
You and your type of tube is what inspires me to keep going with my channel, I have fun doing it and watching guys like you makes it fun and funny too!!
I appreciate that! I gave you a sub, love that shot camera!
I have a 450B with 4 in 1 Drott blade. got it from a guy who took good care of it, but I paid 12k also. considering your future YT revenue, your experience gained, and your resale value, I think you did well. But your explanations and your overall demeanor are excellent, and I hope you continue with your YT side hustle.
Thank you! those 4 in 1 buckets are awesome
For me it's all about the value of the education. What you have learned from this exercise exceeds the time and money put into it.
You are exactly right about buying a "better" machine. Doesn't matter, even if it's new, it's going to have issues. The fact you are intimately familiar with this machine will pay off in the long run.
As for the starting performance in cold weather, I've read that there are two types of pistons, the old style would have trouble once you were below 10C and your engine was in good shape. The new pistons will get you going down around 0C.
On my unit I also put in a 28MT starter, which is the gear reduction replacement for the 27MT. I think it made a small difference in the starting performance.
Learning is everything. You really can't put a price on experience. Interesting stuff with the different pistons. I think I have heard of that too... as well as the valve height in the cylinder head being very important for cold starting too.
You may already know this but just in case you don’t, a very common problem on these machines that often gets overlooked is, where the frame rails bolts to the trans axle housing. The bolts will get loose and often brake off. This puts a side load on the reverser housing which in turn makes the trans shafts wear against the internals which wipes out the componets. You were lucky to get a machine that the reverser still functions. You need to take a close look at those bolts on the frame rails. I’m in Kentucky and have a 450 straight with that same problem. Been sitting for years. I might sell parts to you very reasonable but the drive for you would be a long one.
Great tips! Are you talking about the bolts that connect the frame rails to the clutch housings? Or the bolts that go through the frame into the bellhousing?
Either way yeah I guess they are all important. I found the bellhousing to frame bolts loose and I also found a crack that I had to weld where the rails meet the clutch housings. Ill keep a close eye on all of that going forward.
I think the learning journey here was invaluable. Great video. Loved the dual video during the cost breakdown.
Thank you for being a pivotal part of making this happen! I wouldn't have ever gotten this machine without Henderson support.
The education you got from working on this machine was invaluable. My education on watching your thought process and your machining skills was invaluable to me. I'm thinking about purchasing a metal lathe. Not quite up to purchasing a milling machine. Kind Regards, Craig
Glad to hear that! Having the ability to make your own parts is a massive advantage when fixing old or new stuff.
Years ago yes I would get a fixer upper but age has me buying useable and make up the price difference by putting it to work right away. Time value of money.
I agree, I dont want to do this work forever. I am getting this experience in my 30's so hopefully I will know what not to buy in my later years
Old equipment is best if you have the skills and patience 👍
CS heavy equipment and repair in West Virginia is a good place for parts new and used
My dad and I paid 5500$ for our 450c. Put about 2k into it after that. Our 450B (4in 1 bucket and backhoe attachment ) was a screamin deal at 800 bucks….. it had a viewing window in the block where a rod had came out to say hi. That one took about 4 grand to make nice with a government surplus John Deere diesel
Those sound like some fantastic deals!! I would be all over a 5500 dollar C model any day of the week.
Loved the whole dozer series even though I’ve no interest in ever owning or needing one.
Here in Texas 70s era 450Bs go for more than $10k in partial working condition. Closer to $15k for one needing no obvious work. 450Cs are even more expensive. Every ranch around here has at least one, or the Cat equivalent. They are always pre-electronics models and will be running far beyond the time the electronics models are on the scrap heap.
Unless you are using the dozer everyday for a business, it is not feasible to buy one newer. They are much too expensive, even used. Anyone that I could call to fix anything (old equipment, cars, things around the house) will charge far more per hour than I make. So I have always considered the investment in tools and time for fix thing on my own to be sound investments.
I agree with you 100%. An old mechanical machine like this is all that makes sense given the work I need from it
100% buy the old machine and fix it up. I’m currently fixing up an 80s Kubota L345 tractor. Loving the videos, keep it up!
Thank you!
I used to fully enjoy working and fixing machines. As I have gotten closer to retirement age I bought a brand new tractor, 2616 Mahindra, a 1.5T mini excavator and a zero turn mower. All 3 arrived with .3 or fewer hours. It helps that my work area is a grass covered driveway with my roof being the sun and stars.
It's a used machine, it will break at some point. I think you did well in getting a dozer with good bones and learning and fixing as you go. From my perspective, you came out ahead on the money you spent and for the use you will get out of it.
Thank you!
Any dollar made back on this platform is a major win. Especially when it’s content on something you’d do anyway with or without the camera. One day the content will pay for itself completely
Damn right!
Great video! I’m not a diesel guy nevertheless I think you’re painful learnng curve will pay big dividends in the future.
I’m confident that word will get around with your neighbors and you may be able to earn some extra cash or trade favors. Blah blah blah
I’ve learned a lot just watching you. Thanks for your time. 👍
Dude this was killer, love watching your videos!
Thanks dude!
I’ve always bought old and made it like new, hence my newest vehicle being 2004. I’ve wrenched all my life and learning new stuff is what gets my day going by, if I can buy something cheaper that I have to teach myself how to work on it’s better in the long run for me
100% Agree!
That is not too bad of a deal I would say it’s worth it
this is awesome! love the videos! great job as always.
Thank you!!
Naw dude you came out smelling like roses on that deal. Damn good if you ask me. Ran a 550A for a few years, great lil dozer. Start saving money now for the undercarriage. They wear out fairly quick and cost quite a bit. High speed in reverse causes the most wear to the pins and bushings and rails. It would have started without the Cosby sauce. Keep it up and it will require it all the time. Starter bushings and brushes are way cheaper than an inframe kit. Especially if you shoot a lil too much and break a ring or ring land. Great video, thanks.
Thank you! I work really slow honestly, I only use first and second gear. These rails are really getting towards end of life and I want to keep them on here until I get enough work done to justify their replacement.
I have mixed feelings on the ether addiction. Both of my other JDs came with ether injection from the dealer. Wondering if JD used a different formulation back in the 70s as to not bust up rings and pistons?
I'm with you, and advocate of inexpensive and repair myself. I have a compact tractor I bought for $800 because the guy could not figure out an over heating issue. $13 radiator cap and I've been using it for years. Servicing everything and a few repairs I'm in tge machine $1k.
Sounds like your in there for a steal! You could never live without that thing now. Very handy machines
Interesting wood rack.
“Pre-dryer”
Who cares how much things cost, you have a great dozer!! Well done
The best thing about these old machine.... no electronic. You dont need mechanic from JD to fix it.
Power to the starter and the pump and shes a runner! Cant beat the simplicity of these old machines.
Look at it this way. You have a reliable machine and you paid out 10,000. So you are at -10000. Your UA-cam earnings +2000. The money you didn't pay to rent a machine for two months +3000. You are now your own machine specific experienced mechanic +2000. You have a machine to rent out, or so small jobs with +whatever you can make with it, easily more than the balance. You may have put out 10000 but you are going to make that back quick in time, knowledge, experience and friends that need favors.
Absolutely I agree. Thanks for stopping by!
I own a few older pieces of equipment and my vote is rent newer stuff for big projects spend your time taking the old lady riding on them beautiful trails there and not working on old equipment life is short do what you love if it’s working on old stuff do that but I have more fun trail riding I’ll watch you no matter what I loved your jeep Cherokee vids that’s how I found your channel
Wow, long term viewer, I appreciate that! I still have that grand cherokee... Tore the front axle out of it last wheeling trip. Maybe Ill 4 link it this winter and get it back together.
Parts are a lot higher now ive got 555 loader track adjuster needed a new chrome rod and seal the rod cost 1000 bucks from flint the local dealer in braselton ga the seal was over 100 they are ripoffs heard most jd dealers are sticking it to parts customers and dont even think of new crap
I tell the uninitiated that there are “Dollars” and then there are “Heavy Equipment Dollars”. Get ready to make it rain at the parts counter.
It’s always nice to no what u got by working on it now fixing it yourself good since of accomplishment by the time to spend 1500 bucks to get a rental delivered for a weekend I’d rather do the same thing u done
I think even at 9k it's a great deal because the machine is now good and tight. I have a 70s IH TD7C and I shopped for a mid sized dozer for a long time. In in western NY and there are tons of Deere 450s here that seem to go for 10-20k and they're half worn out and tired.
Out on the west coast I see JD 450's of this vintage on Marketplace and people are asking 20K - 30K. And these are logging dozers that have been beat to hell. Anyone that actually pays that much is certifiable.
I honestly had no idea that you had zero experience working on these old beasts. You attacked with such vigor and understanding that I thought this was just another Saturday for you! 🤣
I'm sure some of that is the power of filming and editing but still, you looked like a pro to me!
I'm al in on the buy it cheap and fix it yourself. Seen way too many hack jobs in my life. I'd rather know things were done correctly and/or learn from the mistake of getting it wrong so that I get it right the next time. There's always a next time with this old equipment.
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Yup! I am sure over the last 50 years a lot of people have worked on and repaired this machine. Thanks for stopping by!
A couple ideas on PDF manuals, I print off the pages I need for the current job, and then put them in a 3 ring binder for next time. Another thing to di is get a cheep tablet and view them with that.
Good tips on that, thank you!
I like how you broke everything down for price and if nobody told you to park it rubber tires so do it don't freeze down to the ground I heard that somewhere
Thats a good idea! I never considered how stuck these tracks can get when things freeze up. Thank you!
Hard put a dollar value on the knowledge you gain
Awesome video. Have you seen invitation of cordless impact wrench via email today?
The junkyard in meyerstown is grebbles u-pull it. Didn't realize you were close enough for that to be an option!
I actually do go to Grebels for car parts. I think I meant to say Mertztown, the yard there is called Wengers.
@spankranchgarage ohh got it. I'm not offended then
Even brand-new machines break down for one reason or another.
I think you need to keep track of your time for future projects, I’d be curious to know how much time you put into these projects.
I am like you in that i don’t want to spend much money, and I value learning about the machine as I work on it. However, that approach just doesn’t work unless you have the hours available to work on it and learn. It is easy to over-commit and run out of time in your day, then you have an expensive lawn ornament and frustration, and no machine to accomplish the task you bought the machine for.
I totally get that, I have too many lawn ornaments (Cars/trucks) that have fallen to the wayside to support these machine repairs
Definitely buy older, Everything newer is loaded with unnecessary electronics, And the older equipment is made to last because of its build quality, It’s about time you started another project, Something similar, But not necessarily another dozer, Stay lucky 🇬🇧🇮🇪.
Got a similar vintage backhoe in the works now... and another dozer. Thanks for stopping by!
thanks for making your videos!
Im here for the long haul, thanks for watching!
I would like to see a break down of the work it is doing for you. How you value that.
That's a great topic. I have a lot of work lined up for this in the winter/spring. To rent a dozer the best price I could get was 610/day or 1720/week. Delivery is complicated and challenging as we are far off the public road so getting equipment back there is a mess.
Regarding shed/storage of the machine ……buy a good tarp to cover the unit until you can store it otherwise.
Yeah I will. It breaks my heart to see how quickly this thing is getting covered in leaves and crap sitting in the woods.
I enjoy seeing a old dozier fix up if a ways muck younger and live up away from the dam city Yes i would do it
I believe that confidence will carry a man when repairing a machine. Its only metal that is designed for this kind of work. After spending probably thirty plus years of my seventy five years here... much is the same from machine to machine.
I agree!
Great job
Hi Spank, I have a question for you. Which alternator do you recommend? Mine will not change at all. Thanks for your help friend.
I use the alternator from a 1976 chevy pickup truck. Look up "Gm 1 wire alternator john deere" I am sure there is some info online about it.
How much time would you estimate that you have in it ? If you had spent that time at your regular job how much further ahead or behind would you have been ?
I might have 60 hours into this thing. Maybe even closer to 80. So say worst case 80 hours at 50/hr its 4000 in my labor. If I paid someone it would be closer to 8000 in labor I would think. But the knowledge I gained is easily worth the 4000 bucks to me.
$1000 for beer…😂
Hahaha that's a good point! I need to start tracking that too!
I'm glad it wasn't just me thinking 'wtf flew out of the exhaust'
Might be time for a chrome stack and a flapper cap.
I paid a WHOLE lot more for my 350C from C and C Equipment and had to do repairs before using it and it broke down twice and still I have several more repairs that need done and so far UA-cam has paid me 0. So paying extra for a machine that was supposed to be gone over isn’t the best way to go either. In hindsight site I would have been a lot better off to have spent $10,000 or so and fixed things as they come along than spent more so I wouldn’t have to do repairs. I kind of went that way with my new to me skid steer. I have one repair to do but at least it is expected. And it has done some work already.
Ugh I am sorry to hear that! Some things are preventable while other things "just break". But it hurts a lot more when you pay top dollar and still have to fix it. Good luck! I have a 350C as well I am making some videos on.
@ yep already enjoyed the first video on the 350C. Keep them coming
Did you video repairing the slopped out t handle blade control? I must have missed that if you did. I need to fix mine on my 450c
I did rebuild that whole control system. It was a fair bit of work. I started filming but never made a video because it kind of spiraled out of control. I ended up machining a bunch of stuff, making bushings, replacing pins, etc. Just had to go at it and determine what is making slop and come up with a plan to reduce it.
I have a JD 450c I bought for $4500.00 a year ago. I've got over 9 grand in it and haven't pushed dirt yet. Love your channel but, your prices are extremely low. Keep doing what you're doing.
Also, the hydraulic control up/down lever spring, how do you change that? does control body have to be removed from machine? Thanx!
Thanks. Do you mean the spring that is actually inside the valve that centers the spool?
@@spankranchgarage Yes sir, my control handle fall to float. I purchased a spring p/n U13360 not sure how to install? pls help.
Interesting video... Thanks!
Thanks for watching!!
Yes because it's has no dpf ,EGR on it
Ugh yeah, I agree. I wouldn't want emissions equipment on my diesel truck and sure as hell not on my equipment. JUNK
What was the transportation costs? Otherwise, the cost analyst was interesting.
Delivery from the seller to my house was done as a favor from a friend(just paid fuel).
It cost me about 1100 to deliver it to my mountain property. 300 for trailer rental and 400 in fuel plus my time (~850 mile round trip), my truck also broke down in the process and the part was 400 bucks. Long story there but I did make a video on it.
Plus 600 bucks in beer / sanity drinks 👌
SANITY SODAS!!! Ill have to remember that one for a future video
Have to factor in how much money it would have cost to rent one or hire someone to do the work you’ve done with it.
I have enough jobs planned within the next year to exceed the cost of a rental machine if all goes well. Rental rate in my area is 720/day plus some delivery challenges. Though a rental machine would probably be faster and easier to operate, I dont really care about speed of work here. I enjoy taking my time in the woods and getting it done
you will know yourself the experience and knowledge you learnt outways anything
100% agree!
I've seen the things you've been working on ! You are money a head?life is always throughing a wrench in the mix?Murphy has his say aswell soon you have a life you can live with😂😮! You don't have the the time for all of my bs!life is short I'm impressed with what I've seen
If you can't work on your equipment it's better to rent. 👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I agree 100%!
Their you have it, another graduate of the *School of Hard Knocks* . (wink, wink,) For some strange reason *skill retention* is very high & long lasting, I wonder 😎😎why.
I always tend to learn the hardest of ways!!
Wink, wink; it's not "starting fluid," it's called Diesel Crack. LOL
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Is it worth it ? NO ... I tried it with my 1st wife and had to get a new one right away
Some projects are best to scrap and start over!
@@spankranchgarage AMEN ... There's fixable, then there's regrettable. Regrettably she was not fixable.
Shit coming from a farmer wait till you spend 1.5 million on a piece of Deere equipment and never get a full 4 hours of work out of it so new equipment with all these bell and whistles isn't worth it finished my harvest up with a 2001 Deere combine well 2 of them only minor stuff yes Deere took it back
Holy crap that sounds like a mess! Im glad they took it back. The old stuff that we can fix ourselves is nice but the creature comforts are surly lacking.
Wait now that they are in Mexico they are Juan Deere. They fully support gay pride now too.