So that Honda under full load uses .36 gallons an hour (as told by Honda) so if it's charging 5 miles an hour, it using a gallon of gas to charge 13.8 miles.
Your math is about right I think. I believe the gas container size is 1.2 gallons. I also suspect if you drove under 50 mph, you could increase that range. Again at the end of the day this isn’t about daily use or efficiency or value. It’s about being in the middle of nowhere and getting back to civilization. We could have certainly purchased a larger generator, but we’re balancing needs, price, weight, size, Decibel level, reliability, etc.
I think the other question is how much gas do you need to, say, put 100 miles of range into the Cybertruck? I remember doing the maths a while back and wondering whether it was worth lugging around so much equipment for that 'one in a million' chance that I've let my battery run down too low, there's no sunshine for days and no electrical infrastructure - not even a house who'd let me plug in. Maybe even in that unlikely situation I could find somebody to tow me or bring me a generator?
Valid questions. In our case, the generator will likely be used for other functions so it’s not just sitting around. The unknown for us will be what type of phantom loads the truck loses due to temperature, waking up, etc. The truck itself may be used as a power plant too reducing our range back to civilization. Calculations and understanding we haven’t quite figured out yet.
Can this setup charge while you are driving? That would extend the milage greatly. It would be a great and long lasting setup, maybe a bit of cheap solar and all of this is plug and play. It would be a blast. The bed area is secure from the cab and could be giving good mounts and exhaust.
@@A.R.77 I think if you’re doing that you might as well buy a gasoline car. However the idea of this concept with Solar would certainly be interesting the issue at this point is there isn’t enough Solar space to do significant energy production
@@CyberTruckOneI think there is a niche use there to extend range while towing. Towing kills range and makes pulling into chargers difficult. Would be awesome if you give it a try just for curiosity.
That's how trains work... It's called electric diesel. There's a small company called Edison working on it... You would get the range of an electric battery plus a full tank of diesel to charge the electric battery. I honestly think electric diesel is the way if the future
A lifted Jeep Wrangler on 35” A/T tires gets around 15MPG in city driving (prob a bit worse on trails), for a total city range of about 320 miles-basically same as CT (although CT prob gets better than rated range on dirt roads / easy trails). So, with a generator and a 5 gal gas can, you’d have close to the same off road range as a Jeep (also with 5 gal gas can), assuming you can top off the CT fairly close to the trail head. Of course, the Jeep will find a gas stations lot closer to the end of the trek than the CT will find a super charger, but in a desperate situation, $20 and a smile will probably allow you to limp to gas station and run a 110V extension cord to gas station building while you take a nap and charge enough to get to a faster charger…. And with generator, you could potentially bum a couple gallons of gas from an ICE vehicle at end of trek, further expanding your options in edge cases. Maybe carry a siphon hose in your kit?
A 220 gas generator is a lot more practical. You will need to carry a lot of gas to make it worth it. I have a cyber truck on order and have received a configuration offer but I'm wait for a non foundation series . I will get a generator also 👍
As I tried to acknowledge. 99% of CT owners will never need such a thing. So this shouldn't even be a discussion for most. A 220v generator would certainly be better, however size, cost, weight are factors. And in almost all cases, a full charge isn't required. This is about getting back to civilization.
Isn't the twist lock 240 volts? I'm pretty sure your RV plug as an adapter is cutting your voltage in half. It's pretty small generator so I guess it might not make a difference.
@@CyberTruckOne I think it would take more than just a cable to sink and shift the phases of two generators by 180° in order to create 240 volt. If you were to just splice one generator to L1 and the other generator to L2 of a 240 volt outlet you would have undesirable results. It would be interesting to find a 240 volt generator that was able to manage a similar efficiency to a gas truck while charging your CT.
@@CyberTruckOne very interesting I guess a proprietary cable with a generator designed to do so. I'll have to check this out thank you for bringing my attention to it.
Great question. Don’t know the exact answer however your assumption is correct. If you drove slower, you would certainly extend those 4 or 5 miles even further.
I think you're totally missing the boat claiming that 99% of CT owners (or any off roading EV like a Rivian, Lightning or Hummer) may need this. Carrying a couple of EU3200i's and a two 5 gallon jerry cans (the all metal Wavian's are the best and don't even leak fumes) would give an off roading EV owner a lot of freedom that a 100% EV limits them to. Being able to push back in 8 miles per hour of charging totally changes how you can use an EV off road and totally makes it much more viable in the real world. Stuff happens off road that cannot be counted on....bad weather, blocked trails, getting stuck, etc. The idea of solar panels really isn't going to cut it. Out here in the west, the first thing you try to do is park in the shade when camping. It would take 3 or 4 days of solar charging just to get 20-30 miles of range in a CT and that would be from a substantial solar panel. Looking forward to your camper!!
U may be right about double generators. Or one 240v. However. I do think a camper w solar and lithium might be better than u think. Of course, system size cost is certainly a factor. Some of these Victron energy batteries are getting pretty powerful where you can put a bunch in there and get yourself 20or 30 kWH. Add a halfway decent solar array on the roof of the camper and maybe even a ground blanket. And u have another diversified energy portfolio
So that Honda under full load uses .36 gallons an hour (as told by Honda) so if it's charging 5 miles an hour, it using a gallon of gas to charge 13.8 miles.
Your math is about right I think. I believe the gas container size is 1.2 gallons. I also suspect if you drove under 50 mph, you could increase that range. Again at the end of the day this isn’t about daily use or efficiency or value. It’s about being in the middle of nowhere and getting back to civilization. We could have certainly purchased a larger generator, but we’re balancing needs, price, weight, size, Decibel level, reliability, etc.
@@CyberTruckOne oh of course, I was doing the math just for fun!!!
I think the other question is how much gas do you need to, say, put 100 miles of range into the Cybertruck? I remember doing the maths a while back and wondering whether it was worth lugging around so much equipment for that 'one in a million' chance that I've let my battery run down too low, there's no sunshine for days and no electrical infrastructure - not even a house who'd let me plug in. Maybe even in that unlikely situation I could find somebody to tow me or bring me a generator?
Valid questions. In our case, the generator will likely be used for other functions so it’s not just sitting around. The unknown for us will be what type of phantom loads the truck loses due to temperature, waking up, etc. The truck itself may be used as a power plant too reducing our range back to civilization. Calculations and understanding we haven’t quite figured out yet.
I saw a cybertruck owner on UA-cam charging with generator on propane . His estimate was 5 40lb tanks to fully charge a cyber truck.
@@conantdog Fortunately for most, a full charge isn't required. It's just about getting back to civilization where electric infrastructure exists
Can this setup charge while you are driving? That would extend the milage greatly. It would be a great and long lasting setup, maybe a bit of cheap solar and all of this is plug and play. It would be a blast. The bed area is secure from the cab and could be giving good mounts and exhaust.
@@A.R.77 I think if you’re doing that you might as well buy a gasoline car. However the idea of this concept with Solar would certainly be interesting the issue at this point is there isn’t enough Solar space to do significant energy production
@@CyberTruckOneI think there is a niche use there to extend range while towing. Towing kills range and makes pulling into chargers difficult. Would be awesome if you give it a try just for curiosity.
That's how trains work... It's called electric diesel. There's a small company called Edison working on it... You would get the range of an electric battery plus a full tank of diesel to charge the electric battery.
I honestly think electric diesel is the way if the future
A lifted Jeep Wrangler on 35” A/T tires gets around 15MPG in city driving (prob a bit worse on trails), for a total city range of about 320 miles-basically same as CT (although CT prob gets better than rated range on dirt roads / easy trails). So, with a generator and a 5 gal gas can, you’d have close to the same off road range as a Jeep (also with 5 gal gas can), assuming you can top off the CT fairly close to the trail head. Of course, the Jeep will find a gas stations lot closer to the end of the trek than the CT will find a super charger, but in a desperate situation, $20 and a smile will probably allow you to limp to gas station and run a 110V extension cord to gas station building while you take a nap and charge enough to get to a faster charger…. And with generator, you could potentially bum a couple gallons of gas from an ICE vehicle at end of trek, further expanding your options in edge cases. Maybe carry a siphon hose in your kit?
Thank you for the comments. 👍👍👍
A 220 gas generator is a lot more practical. You will need to carry a lot of gas to make it worth it.
I have a cyber truck on order and have received a configuration offer but I'm wait for a non foundation series .
I will get a generator also 👍
As I tried to acknowledge. 99% of CT owners will never need such a thing. So this shouldn't even be a discussion for most. A 220v generator would certainly be better, however size, cost, weight are factors. And in almost all cases, a full charge isn't required. This is about getting back to civilization.
Isn't the twist lock 240 volts? I'm pretty sure your RV plug as an adapter is cutting your voltage in half. It's pretty small generator so I guess it might not make a difference.
No it’s not. You can however, buy a special double cable that hooks to 2 EU3200i generators and produce 240 V.
@@CyberTruckOne I think it would take more than just a cable to sink and shift the phases of two generators by 180° in order to create 240 volt. If you were to just splice one generator to L1 and the other generator to L2 of a 240 volt outlet you would have undesirable results. It would be interesting to find a 240 volt generator that was able to manage a similar efficiency to a gas truck while charging your CT.
@@WentzCraft I didn’t invent this in my head. Go onto their website and read all about it.
@@CyberTruckOne very interesting I guess a proprietary cable with a generator designed to do so. I'll have to check this out thank you for bringing my attention to it.
Is that 4 miles in an hour based on driving 60 MPH? If driving at 20 MPH how many miles would that 1 hour of charging get you?
Great question. Don’t know the exact answer however your assumption is correct. If you drove slower, you would certainly extend those 4 or 5 miles even further.
I think you're totally missing the boat claiming that 99% of CT owners (or any off roading EV like a Rivian, Lightning or Hummer) may need this. Carrying a couple of EU3200i's and a two 5 gallon jerry cans (the all metal Wavian's are the best and don't even leak fumes) would give an off roading EV owner a lot of freedom that a 100% EV limits them to. Being able to push back in 8 miles per hour of charging totally changes how you can use an EV off road and totally makes it much more viable in the real world. Stuff happens off road that cannot be counted on....bad weather, blocked trails, getting stuck, etc. The idea of solar panels really isn't going to cut it. Out here in the west, the first thing you try to do is park in the shade when camping. It would take 3 or 4 days of solar charging just to get 20-30 miles of range in a CT and that would be from a substantial solar panel. Looking forward to your camper!!
U may be right about double generators. Or one 240v. However. I do think a camper w solar and lithium might be better than u think. Of course, system size cost is certainly a factor. Some of these Victron energy batteries are getting pretty powerful where you can put a bunch in there and get yourself 20or 30 kWH. Add a halfway decent solar array on the roof of the camper and maybe even a ground blanket. And u have another diversified energy portfolio
I got my cyberbeast recently up in Cheyenne! So if you need a tester! :D hit me up!
When you build it... i mean.
Appreciate the offer. Might see u someday.