Some schools refuse Bible mandate, OSDE says 'they will comply'
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- State Superintendent Ryan Walters released guidelines for teaching with the Bible in Oklahoma classrooms on July 24.
Almost a month ago, Walters announced a memo in a State Board of Education meetingrequiring all teachers to have and use a Bible in their classrooms.
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He needs to be gone!!
He is about to get canned for losing billions of federal funds and not reporting for years on federal funding in schools as required. State education grant writers said they quit in frustration after a lack of support from him. Walters has vowed in the past not to pursue grants that don’t align with “Oklahoma values.” He cannot keep employees so he blames all of the failures of his district on people who have already quit. I believe this is all a ploy to say he was fired for religious beliefs so he can rack up a big lawsuit when he gets fired.
Tax the churches!
'Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other sects?' - J. Madison.
@@agresseur7184 The public schools currently teach the false religion of secularism.
We need school choice.
If it isn’t to promote Christianity then why aren’t they also required the tora., Quran, and religions books from other faiths in the classroom
They will be soon! Either they dump the mandatory Bible thing, or they will HAVE to allow the Quran, Wiccan beliefs, Athiest beliefs etc...etc... into the classroom
@@e-bikeskibum7141The Torah is the first 5 books of the Old Testament…which is the first half of the Bible.
I’m actually for Westerners reading the Quran. They will realize that most Muslims are good people and don’t take their Quran seriously. The Muslims who do take their Quran seriously want to conquer Westerners and impose Sharia Law by any means necessary.
The Bible has a witch in it…the witch of Endor. Wiccan is Satan worship. The Bible has Satan. Atheists don’t have a book but they do have an attitude.
@@e-bikeskibum7141 Atheist beliefs ? Lack of belief is not a belief. Not believing in Astrology is not a belief. That said, you're absolutely right that they must allow other religious theologies besides Christianity but we all know that won't happen because these extremists want to shove only their version of Christianity down everybody's throat. 🙄
“This is a war for the souls of our kids,” Walters declared shortly after his election last year at a banquet for City Elders, a national group that advocates for Christian-based government. He went on to claim that liberals are trying to make children hate their parents and the country. “I will do all I can to fight to get that nonsense out of schools and to put God back in schools.”
Walters is a staunch Church of Christ evangelist and his father was a Church of Christ preacher. I do not want my children indoctrinated by the Church of Christ, and their christian advisers which they say will be present daily to advise children in the "true" doctrine of faith.
@@victorianmelody46 He’s not wrong. We are a Judeo-Christian nation. Our nation is not based in Sharia Law. You couldn’t have the Enlightenment without Christianity. Even for a secular person the 10 commandments are good. If you follow the commandments you will have a better life than if you don’t.
They must have found out they have a warehouse full of these things, and figure if they can charge the govt. They can make a LOT of money, and keep pushing the dogma and propaganda that most people are wise to anyway by now.
There is now a religious assessment for government employees in the Religious Authoritarian State of Oklahoma. It is something that has not been seen in the US since 1788. All children are now required to learn the State mandated religious beliefs of the MAGA Dictatorship in power.
Sounds like Project 2025. The Forward alone was nauseating. I'm about 250 pages in and it's getting really worrisome. This is all the same mandate BS they are pushing in this book. Our white, christian, conservative, Ivy League, overlords think "woke" public colleges are the enemy of the state therefore putting them on the chopping block. Getting rid of the entire Department of Education and implementing private and religious k-12 schools paid for by tax dollars.
Better get ready to pull yourself up by your bootstraps unless you can afford an Ivy League University. The rest of us "the masses" should be happy with our minimum wage jobs and women should be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen birthing more little low wage workers for cooperate america and soldiers for the front lines.
A burning bush and the ten commandments sounds like a weird movie .
God, Jesus, Christianity, are not in the Constitution.
I literally cannot wait to vote Walters out. Resign or be removed.
He is about to get canned for losing billions of federal funds and not reporting for years on federal funding in schools. State education grant writers said they quit in frustration after a lack of support. Walters has vowed in the past not to pursue grants that don’t align with “Oklahoma values.” He cannot keep employees so he blames all of the failures of his district on people who have already quit. I believe this is all a ploy to say he was fired for religious beliefs so he can rack up a big lawsuit when he gets fired.🤔
This guy is literally a dictator
Walters is a staunch Church of Christ evangelist and his father was a Church of Christ preacher. I do not want my children indoctrinated by the Church of Christ, and their christian advisers which they say will be present daily to advise children in the "true" doctrine of faith. “This is a war for the souls of our kids,” Walters declared shortly after his election last year at a banquet for City Elders, a national group that advocates for Christian-based government. He went on to claim that liberals are trying to make children hate their parents and the country. “I will do all I can to fight to get that nonsense out of schools and to put God back in schools,”
Someone needs to tell this man to read the Articles of Confederation (since he wants to bring up the “Declaration of Independence”).
Articles of Confederation - Article III - The said states hereby severally enter into a firm league of friendship with each other, for their common defence, the security of their liberties, and their natural mutual and general welfare, binding themselves to assist each other, against all force offered to, or attacks made upon them, or any of them, on account of religion, sovereignty, trade, or any other pretence whatever.” (words are spelled how they are spelled in the document)
I'm grateful that I never attended public school.
According to the U.S constitution , and explicitly had stated that there should be a SEPARATION OF CHURCH FROM STATE.
Ryan everyone will test you
"I will hold every individual accountable..." Government officials who don't aspire to exercising dictatorial control over others say that the department will do that, under the law. Making it so personal is creepy and inappropriate and would be even if what he is pushing was legal.
Ultimately, the SCOTUS WILL tell Ryan Walters how the Bible will or will not be used in public school classrooms.
Can we start a recall petition started for Walters? The governor won't take a stand on this as he knows a landmine when he sees it. (For once!) He's "Damned if he do and damned if he don't.".
The bible is for the church and not for schools. Many different religious people have. The schools are for teaching kids history, grammar, reading, technology, math. Schools should improve teaching. Our declaration of independence, our status, our beliefs, our constitution. About our civil war. The pledge of allegiance. The wars the Americans fought. Why are we Americans? Why are people fighting for this country?
They don't want to educate, they want to indoctrinate.
The Bible is History. Archaeologists use the Bible as a guide to their research. There are great UA-cam Channels of Archeologists like Titus Kennedy who use the Bible in their search for artifacts.
@@Luvurenemy I don't have any problem with you or anyone else watching UA-cam archaeologist or going to the church of your "CHOICE." That doesn't have anything to do with teaching my child religion in school. That is what the church of our "CHOICE" is for. Walters is a staunch Church of Christ evangelist and his father was a Church of Christ preacher. I do not want my children indoctrinated by the Church of Christ, and their christian advisers which they say will be present daily to advise children in the "true" doctrine of faith. “This is a war for the souls of our kids,” Walters declared. “I will do all I can to fight to get the nonsense out of schools and to put God back in schools.”
@@victorianmelody46 Children are being taught religion in school right now. They are being taught that all religions are the same. This is not true. I think we all want school choice. You want a school to reflect your beliefs and I want a school to reflect my beliefs. Many books of the Bible are History. It can be easily be taught as the History of Western Civilization in any school…religious or secular without it being considered religious indoctrination. Western secular culture and science were conceived and given birth to by Christianity. Check out the book Dominion by Tom Holland.
@@Luvurenemy I don't want school choice. I want public schools without religious indoctrination. That is what church is for. So you can practice the religion of your "CHOICE.""Without white christian nationalism.
If you want to talk about history pertaining to the bible then we need to teach children the atrocities that have been committed in the name of religion and the millions of people who have died in wars that kings and queens have sent their people off to fight and die for. The Spanish Inquisition would be a good place to start. The wars between Christians and Islam. The Crusades of King Richard I. Crusaders who were used to protect the faithful and then murdered when their usefulness was over. Wars between Catholics and Protestants over the many centuries. Yes, there is a lot of history to teach about the bible and Christianity.
I wouldn’t want him to teach it. His understanding of the scriptures is not sound. It’s frightening to have someone spout nonsense about western history when referring to a book that concerns itself with the history of what we generally regard today as Northern Africa and the Middle East. Is he sure that he has read this book?
Do not teach the Bible to my children. Teach them the Quran!
You should send them to madrasas for that
State Superintendent Walters talks about the role the Bible had in this country. Will that include how the Bible was used to justify the atrocities against Native Americans and to justify slavery?
The state legislature sets the state curriculum. Further, the Constiution of Oklahoma is clear: Section II-5: Public money or property - Use for sectarian purposes.
No public money or property shall ever be appropriated,
applied, donated, or used, directly or indirectly, for the use,
benefit, or support of any sect, church, denomination, or system
of religion, or for the use, benefit, or support of any priest,
preacher, minister, or other religious teacher or dignitary, or
sectarian institution as such.
Get petition .people stand up and sign it!!!!
'Religion of the duty we owe to our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force.... if religion be exempt from authority of the society at large, still less can it be subject to that of the legislative body ' J. Madison.
The superintendent is concerned with accuracy in history, but knows not what he preaches:
(1) George Washington, the first president of the United States, never declared himself a Christian according to contemporary reports or in any of his voluminous correspondence.
(2) John Adams, the country's second president, wrote, “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!"
(3) It was during Adam's administration that the Senate ratified the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, which states in Article XI that "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion." (The Character of John Adams by Peter Shaw, pp. 17 (1976, North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill, NC)
(4) Thomas Jefferson, third president and author of the Declaration of Independence, referred to the Revelation of St. John as "the ravings of a maniac" ( Thomas Jefferson, an Intimate History by Fawn M. Brodie, p. 453 (1974, W.W) Norton and Co. Inc. New York, NY).
(5) James Madison, fourth president and father of the Constitution, wrote, "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise. . . pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution" (The Madisons by Virginia Moore, P. 43 (1979, McGraw-Hill Co. New York, NY) and so much more history to teach about how our founding fathers felt about Christianity and it's blind followers.
@@victorianmelody46 Some would say their statements not only liberal but almost Anarchist and Communists. “People go to church for the same reasons they go to a tavern: to stupefy themselves, to forget their misery, to imagine themselves, for a few minutes anyway, free and happy."
Mikhail Bakunin
separation of church and state - or was that a rider on trumps overturn of roe v. wade
So if it's not to force Christianity onto students, then why aren't other religious texts from other religions included?
They are already getting blow back from the Jewish community and the Hindus.🕎✝☯✡🕉☮
Because America was founded by many Christians, and not so many people of other faiths. The Bible has a unique role in our nation's history. Can you say the same thing about the Hadith, the Bhagavad Gita, or Zohar? No. Not at all. Therefore it makes sense to teach the Bible in American classrooms.
He act like he wrote the bible 😂