Full Tilt Ski Boots: Why you should buy them...
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- Опубліковано 25 жов 2021
- In this video, I go over the unique features and benefits that ALL Full Tilt boots have to offer.
*Disclaimer: This video is NOT sponsored by Full Tilt. Everything in this video are my own thoughts and opinions.
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I bought my FTs because of the ease of putting them on and taking them off. What I didn't know was how WARM these things are ! No heaters needed !
Great video! New subsciber.
I've been skiing in Raichles and Full Tilts since the early 80s. I loved the rear-entry Raichles since I have narrow feet and it was the first boot that I was able to actually pull my heel into the rear of the boot and keep it there. Those boots lasted until the late 90s when I got my first Raichle Flexcomps with a fitted Intuition liner in 1999.
BTW, good bootfitters are worth their weight in gold!
I got new liners and footbeds, but after 16 years, the Flexcomps finally died in a fresh powder day at Crystal in 2015 where the heel ripped off my right boot during a turn at the top of Green Valley Bowl, causing the ski to float down to the bottom of the bowl. After riding my other ski to the bottom, I got to climb the 500' up to the gondola station and ride down to the shop to find another pair of boots.
Fortunately, a pair of Seth Morrison Pros were on sale, and the head of the shop was an experienced bootfitter. After getting a few tweaks to the shell and liners, they have been the best boot I've owned yet, although after almost 200 days, I may go for new liners next season. Maybe I should check and buy the liners this season.
I love the fact that they are lightweight, warm and easy to put on and take off...that's important for us old guys...approaching the 80 year mark next month.
So cool!
This channel is super underated. Quality of video and sound is great
So fun to be so old that my first pair of ski boots was in fact a Raichle in 1987. I've been looking for a softer flexing boot and will check these out. Great video, thanks.
Me too! I had Raichles in 1989. I now have K2 FL3X boots!
I have to add extra emphasis on the ease putting them on and taking them off. My go-to boot before I turn 65 one yellow Rossignol course. Definitely responsive and my foot like a glove. But when I decided I spent more effort putting them on and taking them off then I did actually skiing on the hill. I switch to Full Tilt and have not regretted it. I have modified them a little bit by adding an insole and also adding some extra padding to make the he'll pocket tighter and actually snugged up the forfeit a little better
Owned a dozen boots over time and my first time experience owning the Full Tilt 120 has been superior to anything I’ve used. The ease of putting on and removal is huge since my foot scrapes hard against the plastic on overlapping style boots. What has been a surprise for me is these boots have a better, stiffer flex and overall performance than any custom racing boot I’ve owned. I’m sold. Hope K2 keeps the legend alive.
Well put together video, very concise and informative, keep it up!
I got a wide feet, about 102mm last. The Descendant 120 really fit my wide feet. And I realized there’s a shock absorber inside the boots, it really helps reduce impact when I do some cliff drops. Way much better than normal boots.
I can’t feel too much difference when I do some carving.
Great ski boots for it’s price.
I have the Decedent 120 too. The boot fits my foot really well and the flex is just about perfect but I have already bent both bottom buckles within the first season under normal use. have you had the same issue with the buckle placement?
@@johnhall1705 No… it’s all good for me. Do you mean the very front one? Maybe you can try tighter the higher&middle buckles, cause you might put too much pressure to the front one because you didn’t tight other two buckles. That’s just my thoughts :)
@@xu4799 yes the very front one, its more of the placement of the buckle because its so big any soft snow catches on it. It likes to get popped up while walking in the snow and it hits stuff like stairs or door ways when I walk inside.
Ive used them for 4 days every week this season for on average 8 hours a day. I wanted to try to flip them so they look more like the B&E front buckle but I need a washer and nut.
But I cannot find info on full tilts web site if they sell the washers or if the come with new latches.
. - thanks for your input
I just bought the B&E Pro’s and a higher flex tongue! Can’t wait to get break these out on the mountain
Im on my second pair of FTs, really like them, comfort, ease to get on, lightness and ski really well. My current boots are the First Chair.
I just came back from the Alps having used these for 6 days. Perfect for park as well as carving down slopes (I am relatively lightweight so flex was not an issue at high speed). They are super comfortable but there is more vertical space in the toebox than there should be. I hope heat molding them will fix that cause they are definitely the best boots I've skied in.
heat molding will only make things looser
what model do you have?
I owned a pair Raichle boots as well. For years I looked for a replacement but always went back to my trusty, OLD, busted Raichles. When full-tilt came out I was extremely happy. I will say, I'm worried about the future of this boot.
for 2022, k2 will be continuing full tilt boots but renamed as k2s. i dont think they really changed anything except for colorways
@@bennettmcbain9074 I hope so; they were sold out by time I got into the store this winter.
I think K2 owned FT and it's just rebranding as K2 the better known name
So glad I got a pair of the Sammy Carlson Ascendents this season, now knowing that FT will be absorbed by K2. I love K2 as well but the FT brand is definitely more of a rebel persona that suits my style. The SC Ascendent makes hiking and charging in the backcountry and resort a dream! I love em, worth every penny.
And the K2 SC boots ended up being more edgy lmao
Overall do you like this boot? I just bought K2 Diverge SC a month ago, was obsessed with camo and black&red graphic this past season 22/23. Got them with good discount, and wanted to hear your words as an owner.
Haven't skied for a couple of years but I'm thinking about getting back into it...Used to always have Raichles , but I had to modify them when I got them because they were narrow in spots... also had to modify R tongue where it flexed so it wouldn't bruise my shin bone when I landed in the back seat....These full tilt boogey boots seem a little wider and possibly more comfortable than the old Raichles..This will be a plus in my old age.
This boot is called the Raichle Flexon Comp and has been around since the early 90’s. It was a very popular worldcup downhill racing boot. It was then sold to Dalbello as the Crypton. Full Tilt came in much later and remarketed it as a park boot.
FT bought the Raichle mold. Best ski boot ever, a bit fragile, that's why I have 6 pair for spare parts. Get some! Bill Johnson raced them in World Cup.
Dalbello's krypton architechture (in the krypton and lupo) utilises the same cabrio design with 3 buckles and removable tongue as well as the intuition wrap liner in most models
Very true, though in my experience dalbello boots tend to run stiffer, has a lower ramp angle, and less of a flex range with forward lean.
These boots he’s reviewing look just like the Dalbello il moros, the first couple years they started selling under their own name.
I have drop kick pros and absolutely love them! They are the most comfortable boots I have ever owned.
Are the drop kick regulars good for all mountain?
You can do what ever you want with them… The are a little on the softer side though at 90.
@@MountainVibes will that make it harder to turn or what?
@@leftyslice3834 the softer boots may make it easier for you to engage your skis to turn. It all depends on your skiing ability. If you are more advanced, and ski a stiffer ski, one may find the boot too soft and mushy for them.
@@MountainVibes I am looking for FT because everyone swears by them, I am on a 120 Lange but tbh they feel so heavy and stiff but not a bad stiff. I would say im expert level skier but i just want to know what is so amazing about them? Will they help with butter ability because that is the main thing that bothers me . I have Sir francis bacons but nose and tail buitters are hella hard even for me maybe snow conditions and my skill still isnt to par but i would say im good enough to be able to do them but i swear my boots just arent really for that? I could really use some advice on this because i am alooking for B&E pro or these TW pros. I like powder and backcountry and thats my main attractioon but i definitely want to be in the park with my buddies and get good at that aspect as well. If these boots can accomidate all those things I am down but i just cant get a good verdict on it plus people dont really know me personally or my level of ski ability. LMK lmao
Great videos, very informative, thanks for sharing!
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I originally bought a pair of Raichle Flexon Comp in the late 80s and skied on them for about 15 years, did a lot of hard mogul skiing. I loved them and never even thought about getting any other type of boot. It was unfortunate that Raichle stopped making these boots but I kept using this boot until there was too much duct tape trying to hold the liner together. I finally gave up on the Raichle boot and bought a 4 buckle boot, never liked it no matter how I tried to fit it. A couple years ago, I bought the FT Classic. It was great, fitted just like my old Raichle boot, made me feel like my younger days. I have been skiing for over 50 years, this will probably be my last ski boot.
I'm 60 next year. I learned in Flexons in the 80s, now I have K2 FL3X boots.
I have 2 pairs of Raichle boots I bought at the Final Markdown store in the early 2000 or 99, would like to find some parts that would fit those boots. They have the separate tongue which is helpful and they have some cable adjustment(now called BOA). Great boots.
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Dalbello Panterra 130 with intuition liner
Like any boot - assuming it fits your foot it skis great
Best boots on the market so sad to see them end this brand :/
Got a pair of full tilt boots as a 15 year old kid for Xmas. I’m 23 and they’re still kickin!
Wait they last you that long gd. I just stopped ski racing and wanna get into park but I also still want to carve down slopes. You think full tilt boots are good for that? if yes then what model would you recomend?
@@user-nd6kj8yp8u you’re best off going to your local ski shop and seeing what models they have that fit you best. Everything about the ski boots is pretty precise it’s hard to buy them off the shelf without trying them on
i finally retired my 2012 FT booters this season. picked up a pair of ascendant SCs. seemed only fitting. 10 years after my last full tilt boot, and in the final year of the brands existence.
K2 will keep making them the same though
I like full tilt and the similar dalbello line but I find they come out of the box with a bit too much forward lean. Curious if anyone else feels that.
They will probably will be just renamed and change some colors, they are probably doing this because if you realize the name K2 has more recognition in the world of winter activities as a whole, on the other hand Full Tilt is mostly known for people already involve in the world of skiing, is more of an specific market, so they are just doing this to sell more, to make it more heard of to people that are starting to get into the sport, so they can directly go to a brand really known, and also it is less expensive to advertise one brand rather than two. That is what I think.
Have had a pair for 3years were great but if k2 is going make them great need to make the buckles and cables stronger
If you're already going for cabrio design (not overlap), then go for Dalbello models. They offer higher-quality plastic, and the boots don't look like they've been through ten years after just one.
Thanks fro the content ! Is it compatible for wide feet ? Like really more forgiving for wide feet ?
I Just came across the K2 version in a ski shop last week, I had never seen or heard of this style before. I am wondering what peoples thoughts are on the new K2 versions? Another issue that I am having is that not many shops carry them (the K2 brand) and I would prefer to buy them at a shop with a good fitter
I've had my FT Drop Kick model (first gen, i think) for about 4 years.
Pros:
Comfortable, warm, and fairly easy to put on and take off.
Light weight without sacrificing performance.
Reasonable price point.
Used to wear food beds, but don't need them with this boot as the fit is a level up.
Cons:
The adjustment slider built into the buckle piece is very tough to get right especially in gloves and when hands are cold. Tip: The ladder-style closure adjustment is a whole lot easier to modify at perhaps the expense of some precision.
The wire-style closure mechanism can be unwieldy to clamp down across all three buckles as they seem to always get in each other's way.
When the shell is very cold the plastic hardens to the point where the advantage of on/off ease is all but gone.
While I chose the Drop Kick model out of convenience and availability back when, in hindsight other models probably would have better suited my skiing style and general needs. That said, once the boots are on and dialed in it is exhilarating to put them through their paces with little thought required about the great results that occur.
Its sad that FT are getting shut down but there still Roxa that still uses a flex-plate like a FT,
I bought the 2022 Drop Kick Pro. I’ve been absent skiing for a decade, no it’s time for freestyle again to jump HIGH…
dang dude, nice vid!
Thanks bud! 😎
It seams like the full -tilt boot is on its way of disappearing... Im working in a ski shop in Sweden and the thing with the full tilt is that they have a bad fit. They are too narrow on the foot and even if the lip in front comes of its still very hard geting in.
When I bought new boots last year my eyes were immediately drawn to the FT’s …now I’m a little disappointed I didn’t buy them… I don’t think they had my size anyway but still lol
I found a second hand pair of full tilt booter from 2009. They are barely used and cost 60 dollars. Is it worth it?
Where are those Solomon rear entry boots we all had in the late 1980’s? Those are needed for us old skiers for ease of entry and exit. I ski the Dalbelos for ease of entry/exit, same as the FT boots. They also fit like slippers and keep me warm.
Nordica is making a rear entry boot again. I think the 3 piece design is still the easiest to get into.
i am a fast learning beginer so what do i need
My mom has ft's from 1995, still rocking them today. They are under the previous name tho, not ft
Luckily k2 is only changing the branding (logos and colors) on these boots
honestly full tilts could be really really good but the direction they took the marketing towards freestyle/park kids means that they wont really invest any effort in making a true performance boot, I had a pair and it just didn't have the stiffness or response I needed and it caused a lot of pain and cramping trying to ski a boot that didn't have any support
That’s exactly what someone says that just bought a boot off the shelf. Go to a bootfitter.
@@CatRichardBojangles my full tilts are the same size as my fitted langes lol the fts just suck balls because they dont make them stiff enough
Roxa makes the FullTilt ski boots in Italy!
I own a pair of Dalbello Lupos, which also have the three-piece cabrio design
Love them - especially the natural progression of the flex, and the almost complete elimination of shin bang.
Wish this kind of boot would catch on more
K2 will continue to make them, if anything they should be more available in the future
Aren’t they becoming discontinued?
Are these regular all mountain boots ?
I just purchased the B&E boot. Do you think I would benefit by replacing the footbed on these?
100%, the footbed should be replaced. You foot will be supported better, and maximize the performance. My last video is on the importance of replacing the footbeds, if you want to check that out.
I am interested in in buying a oair of Descents or Aproach, are stiff enough for chargy freeskiing?
The only issue I have with the Approach boots is the walk mode release. If you are charging, and lean too far forward, you may release the walk mode hinge. The Descendants in a stiffer flex will be the better option.
Same Raichle boots I raced with in the 80s.
Odd how zero progress has been made with ski boots since then. Sames molds, different colours & graphics
comfy boot but not nearly stiff enough for steep mountain skiing imo
I got last years B&E boot for free from FT.. was shocked how shitty the liner they use with it…the thin footbed inside the liner felt like it had no cushion at all. I had the 1st Gen. Wallisch have boots the red and whites and his 3rd Gen boots. Those felt like they had way more padding on the feets. I’d been mad if I bought these with my own money. If I was you I would go for
Dalbello they feel way better
Did you try heat moulding them? Intuition liners are well known in aggressive (skatepark) skates. I've heard they're hard & uncomfortable out of the box at first because you're meant to mould them to your feet.
Qual o preço de uma bota dessa ???
If only these boots would fit me. They are so narrow especially for the calf. People must have twig legs to fit in these
I am a twig and that’s why these are great
I have very large calves and I ski in Full Tilts and prefer them over 2 other brands of boots I own.
Mmmmmmmm, let me think, I had two pairs of brand new K2 ski boots, last one K2 Recon Pro and I won't buy again. I hope they don't mess up the traditional ski boot concept and design of FT!
cons?
Agree with everything you said. One thing you didn’t mention is performance, which isn’t as good as a four buckle overlap. Yes, less shin bang if you are slamming front of boot, but they just don’t ski as well.
thanks :D
I have had the worst shin/calf bang this year. It’s also my first year on my Nordica boots. Thinking about renting a pair of full tilts for a day to try them out. Do full tilts really reduce shin bang?
I’m thinking of buying full tilts for next season, but last year I had the worst shin bang I’ve ever had so this year I just kept the top of my boot tightened way more and it really helped
@@paulyevtushenko6694 yeah the problem with my boots is that they literally can’t get any tighter on the top
@@rgskiing5070 yeah that’s also the problem for me now because these are my first boots I only ski for 2 seasons and I got a size a little bigger than I needed
Well, in regards to your current shin bang, your boots can either be too stiff, or too big. If you cannot flex/ move the boot, it's going to be like slamming your shin against a wall. You want next to no movement in the boot as well.
In theory, Full Tilt boots can help alleviate shin bang due to their 3-piece design allowing your ankle and leg to move more naturally. You do need to make sure they fit, and are the correct stiffness for you though.
@@MountainVibes yeah that’s the problem with mine I got a too big of a size because I ordered mine online instead of getting it fitted but after 2 seasons of skiing I learned a lot on what I’m gonna be getting for my next setup
I broke my talus, these look amazing
Nice video. I will NOT recommend people who only ski resorts and do a lot of aggressive skiing to buy an FT boot. Even when having the stiffest tongue I believe they are not needly as stiff as a full race boot.
a 120 FT flex is more or less a 100 regular constructed boot flex but you won't have the hard rebound from the normal boot, FT are more progressive on rebound from flex position to straight position which makes them much more comfortable to ride on a daily basis. FT boots are my go to boots if I'm not doing a ski racing competition.
this is a horrible take. especially as a broad statement. i've skied resort for 10 years on my booters and they were beyond incredible to me. not even 30 seconds of foot pain in 10 years. ive been in the park and out of bounds, skiing the absolute shit out of those boots. I can safely say they were the best 500 dollars i have ever spend on ski gear
The mold for the "classic" shell is actually the same mold as the raichle flexons that people used to win world cup ski races on but full tilt doesn't make them as stiff as they really need to be to be a performance boot because all of their marketing is to young park/freestlye riders and people who want easy on/off boots. full tilt actually made custom parts for bodie miller to build his own performance boots using a classic shell with a custom spoiler and tongue but they wont offer them to the public because they don't think there is a market for it. I had some full tilts based on the "soul" shell which is a classic just with less plastic in common discomfort areas and stuff and they were complete noodles with no support and no response and they would fold all the time when I was carving hard, I would give full tilts a go again because if they offered them in a true performance boot like a lange rs or a mach 1 or a atomic redster but thats just not in the cards for full tilts (now k2) marketing
@@tsut99 hes right, for someone that should be in a 130 flex boot a full tilt just doesn't cut it. mine didn't and caused extreme cramping and ankle pain because I was trying to ski hard in a boot that was a complete noodle and couldn't support me. those boots could be easily made into stiff performance boot full tilt just wont do it
@@Tanner731 there's more than enough of those types of boots already on the market. Full tilts are arguably the only brand with unique products that feel and perform different from the competitors. I'm not going to try and convince you it's the right boot for you. Nor do I expect to see a ski racer in FTBs. But they target a specific demographic of skiers and deliver exceptionally well. I'm an aggressive skier but not a competitive skier nor racer. And these boots don't leave any performance on the table for my style. If anything they unlock additional performance because I never have: cold feet, shin bang, toe bang, foot pain, etc. Plus easy in and out.
I'm still on some of salomon sx91s , any word on some new rear entry's?
Salomon/ Atomic make a soft one, and Nordica make a few starting at 100 for men, and 75 for women.
Can you snowboard in these or no? I feel like all ski boots look better and less bulky than snowboarding boots
I’ve seen people so some weird stuff, but I wouldn’t advise snowboarding in ski boots.
love full tilts it’s unfortunate my foot just doesnt work well for them atleast they look good on the shelf dalbello is what i ride most of the time
Get the Dalbello Cabrio then. Another 3 piece boot.
Great video! I recently bought a pair of drop kick pros (the tan ones) and they seem like there is no bend and keep my legs very erect. I am new to full tilt. So maybe some tips on how I can increase the tilt in the boot would be very healthful! Thanks.
There should have been some forward lean adjusters/ shims in the box that you put between the bottom shell and upper cuff. The gap is above the FT logo on the back of the boot. If those don't provide enough forward lean for you, I'd suggest getting a hold of FT, and see if they can send you larger shims. Hope this helps.
@@MountainVibes thanks! Will this also help with bend when my shins go forward, because when I lean forward it seems like there’s not much give or flex to prevent shin bang.
I’ve been trying to get these damn shims in and I can’t. Do you know how? Or do you know of any tutorial? I haven’t found anything helpful online.
You need to undo one side of the cuff to open it up more.
In regards to you flexing the boot, it seems they’re too stiff for you. I would highly suggest going to a FT dealer to help you out.
@@MountainVibes thank you! It’s very hard to find a dealer since I live in a rural area lol. But the boots seem manageable now.
Best boots in the world
Extra wide last fit for all us chaps with flipper shaped feet….102mm wide👍😉
yep thats it, i was sold like 2 minutes into the video XD
yea well too bad I cant get any decent boots in a 16
i used to think this way then i got fitted by a real boot fitter out west lol
i respectfully disagree with almost everything you said. all my experiences with full tilts are bad. tried to hang in there for years, because they looked cool, but it really didnt work for me. how a boot fits, and what you need from a boot is very personal. for me, atomic and tecnica 4 buckle boots have been perfect for me, woukdnt have changed a thing. lange is aslo pretty good for my feet.
but will agree that its sad to see k2 remove the full tilt name, and they do look cool.
Thanks for your thoughts and opinions.
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many better boot options they break so easily
K2 kept the entire engineering and design teams from FT. They felt it had been pigeonholed into a park boot and felt it should be worn by more users. They couldn’t get anyone over 25 to look at them.
Wasn’t Full Tilt a pure marketing company and The engineering and manufacturing totally done in Italy by one of the main boot’s manufacturer?
Get a Dabello when K2 fucks up & takes this epoch design away. Ive ridden both.
I was turned off from these because they squeaked.
Gosh. Do people really buy boots off the shelf, going by reviews or random recommendations on the internet?? Kidding, I know they do, but they shouldn't. Full Tilts are great, and so are many other boots, but only if they fit your foot. A close fit in the right flex is the only reasonable criterion, and most people only get a really close fit from a real boot fitter.
Buy now cause they are going away
Full tilt boots have shitty ratchet mechanisms. They break. Also Intuition liners are cheap shit lol. Dont waste your money on these boots
Super wide last 100mm and fit a size smaller as a retired ski shop tech we never sold much of these boots unless park rats. Because of the Olympics they are pop. Get rear entry bots if your that lazy dude! So if your fat a lazy get funky tilt.
Don’t buy Full Tilt boots if you’re an aggressive skier and want modern technology.
Is this sarcasm? My brother and friends who ski in the park competitively all have Full Tilt. I snowboard so I genuinely have no idea, but I was under the impression Full Tilt had the highest quality boots in the game
@@RedemptioINN i would agree with graham, most people i know with full tilts just want a soft boot, and dont really care about the support an aggresive skier needs. i used to ride park myself, and had full tilts for 2 yrs. wanted something soft that looked good. parkskiing doesnt really require a boot that handles angressive skiing, since park isnt aggressive. they tend to favour soft and upright boots, which is the opposite of agressive boots.
not taking a shot at park skiing, still ride the park sometimes, and loves it, but its different skiing, and doesnt require as much from the boots.
Wrong. I am a skier since 1962, an aggressive all mountain skier, ex-racer, and a ski instructor for 35 years and have worn the top shelf race boots since the 1970’s. In 2010 I bought a pair of Full Tilt Konflics and have NEVER had a better fitting, better all round preforming boot. The ability to put on and take off this style of boot is light years beyond the 4 buckle style, the Intuition liner is warm and no shin bang ever.
This year with my winter off from work and a lot of skiing on my planner I am going through my gear looking critically at my 12 year old boots. They have some wear, nothing that prevents them from 100% functional use, I like all the new boot technology and the internet temps me for new/different boots and of course my total ski outfit would look better in the lift line and lodge with something “modern”……but, I am not “modern”, I am sad to say retro, I also am one of the better/aggressive skiers on the mountain on any given day who happens to love my Full Tilts and would buy the K2 Revolver Team as my new modern boots.
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Well the most important thing is That the boots fit you, and I you like them, that’s great. Really did not work for me though . Had some full tilt b&e 2013 with an 8 flex tongue on. Never got comfortable in them. The fact that they came without insoles made custom insole fit bad, instep was to high, buckles kept braking, heel pocket expanded over time and got too wide, and same with the top of the chin. And they never offered any LV/narrow models. The boot felt a bit flimsy too on ice. The flex felt to soft and not progressive enough for my liking, and it felt soft from side to side on ice. I walked a lot in them too, and the intuition liners got holes in them from walking after like 2 seasons. Also an ex ski instructor with racing background from my youth, although probably less experienced than you by the sound of it. I ski mostly backcountry now, but some occasional park and racing still. Tecnica and atomic have worked way better for me.
But end of the day, boots are very personal, and for me it just didn’t work at all. I would never go from a 4 buckle design again ever though, I get such a precise yet comfortable fit in them. Could be because of the low volume options too.
Wide feet and drop kicks don’t mix also the heel hold on all the FT boots is suspect.