I'd say it's definitely tied to the original version of the super-raid planned for D1, something key to point out here is the specific use of the orange "energy" wrapping around it, due to all early Hive technology using that color before they switched to the teals & greens instead all post story rewrite.
Yeah the Orb looks like a damaged Shrine of Oryx from an old D1 mission back in the day, way before Kings Fall, back when Dinklage was our Ghost. We destroyed the shrine due to it being used to communicate to Oryx, and it was either destroyed or teleported, that Orb could very much be the other end of the Shrine, or the same Shrine, intended to be found on the Dreadnaught as an easter egg to that mission?
I think its a sootpearl? An artifact from 2015. It reads, "These oddly beautiful orbs can sometimes be found sunk into the rot and filth of the Dreadnaught." and looks identical, just less detail and a tiny bit different in textures but I think the idea is the same?
Given that the reprised King’s Fall raid was the one released immediately before Root of Nightmares, it’s possible they used the OoB areas in KF as testing grounds for concepts and physics tests for RoN. This orb and the glow effect on it look strikingly like the planets from the Macrocosm encounter in RoN.
It could have been something like the planet room in RoN. It's pulsating with what looks maybe like that Rhulk power stuff. Idk, i just thought they looked alike.
that's really interesting. i wonder if this is the only place in the game this asset is ever used? it must be, considering how outdated it looks, what with the orange light emitting from it and all. nowadays that color is used for darkness stuff, not for the hive. it's almost definitely a leftover from d1 that some mapper or environment artist forgot to remove.
I explored King's Fall like crazy, I don't remember seeing that orb though, but the skybox was active outside the map so spotting something that far out would be difficult plus there was so many objects floating out that it could just blend alongside it. That place was really massive.
Someone in Raidsecrets managed to get close enough to see it. It actually is there! No one has managed to stand on it or anything like that yet though. D1's options for height gain and distance in air are limited... I'd love to see it happen though.
@@Froggy618157725 do you have a link to that post or it's title or anything?? I have been going crazy pouring through youtube to try to find evidence of it existing in D1 since this video dropped
Dunno if this'll work, but here's a screenshot media.discordapp.net/attachments/447171496960589844/1199235153428492308/5431e102-19c9-4b0c-8b30-983b5600dba3.png
@@Froggy618157725 AWESOME!! Wow that is wild that it is actually out there in d1. Crazy they ported it to D2, they must have had to update the asset at some point, right? Funny they didn't remove it.
Looks a lot like the nodes you shoot in Ron. However the sphere it self doesn’t look much like the stuff in Ron except for how the big planets spin in explicator… My guess is it was an early creating for the red border symbols to shoot and activate but they ended up going with the hive symbols instead. But they later used them in Ron and then part of the Ron encounters themselves. Would explain the continuity as well.
Looks like of like Crota's oversoul but unbroken... just fractured? So Oryx's oversoul?? could be an item we'll see in the future if they want to try and bring him back...
Surprising, given how powerful IRB is in D1. Is it just too far a distance to cover? D1 doesn't have much for long distant flights other than sparrows, right? Or can you heavy synth in air?
@@Froggy618157725 You can heavy synth in air. I think the main problem is losing height whilst sword flying. I dont remember many vertical movement techniques existing in D1
I don't suppose there's an OOB spot that lets you figure out where TF Oryx's arena is on the Dreadnaught, because I've looked at the profile of the ship for ages and there is no bridge or raised part of the ship.
@Froggy618157725 I know you can see the ship jumping puzzle from the final encounter, though I've never looked the other way. Still don't understand where it is on the greater ship though.
I've tried it a bit. You need to swing close together to get Nadir to proc, and swinging close together is also a big hit for long distance sword flying. Long distance is the main thing I'm interested in. I have found Nadir very useful for staying on the ground resisting pulls, like the pull in the Crota's End 1-2 transition.
Do you have a discord? Been looking for a way into galaxy pools and I’m sure you’re sick to death of people asking but if there’s any way to I’d make it worth your while 🙏🏻
Are you on console? I just place them in the adjacent slot for PC. Dunno if console would benefit from load outs there. Titan's jump continues going while you're in menu since it's a toggle, so that gives you time to swap.
IIRC, this orb was actually present in D1 Kingsfall (like you theorized). I recall watching a video of someone using hard cheats to no clip fly around OOB years ago- I believe they were doing it to formulate OOB speedrunning strats for D1 Kingsfall but then they got carried away. What purpose did it serve, though? Idk lol
That’s from a cut story arc in D1. It’s called Uritractus, Kidney stone of Oryx.
Had me in the first half XD
From the dlc: oryx’s yearly physical
Bungie dev must be very amused when seeing this. Heck, maybe those who know what this is is no longer with bungie
I do hope it amused them.
@@Froggy618157725the devs do this on purpose right? They want us to find this stuff fs.
That used to be the case in Halo. Not as sure about that these days.
I'd say it's definitely tied to the original version of the super-raid planned for D1, something key to point out here is the specific use of the orange "energy" wrapping around it, due to all early Hive technology using that color before they switched to the teals & greens instead all post story rewrite.
Yup. Its an artifact from d1 called a sootpearl. These oddly beautiful orbs can sometimes be found sunk into the rot and filth of the Dreadnaught.
Once again, and for quite a while now, i have considered these some of the most interesting D2 vids compared to the actual game 😂
The orange light around it reminds me of the ron planets
Same! just wanted to say that
Yeah the Orb looks like a damaged Shrine of Oryx from an old D1 mission back in the day, way before Kings Fall, back when Dinklage was our Ghost. We destroyed the shrine due to it being used to communicate to Oryx, and it was either destroyed or teleported, that Orb could very much be the other end of the Shrine, or the same Shrine, intended to be found on the Dreadnaught as an easter egg to that mission?
This is 100% what it is
It being from the shrine I mean. Why it's on the Dreadnaught is anyone's guess.
I think its a sootpearl? An artifact from 2015. It reads, "These oddly beautiful orbs can sometimes be found sunk into the rot and filth of the Dreadnaught." and looks identical, just less detail and a tiny bit different in textures but I think the idea is the same?
Interesting. I'm hoping someone reaches that spot in D1. Would help narrow it down if we knew it's fully there as well.
That’s probably where they hide the captain that represents oryx’s healthbar 😂
my poor head getting here at 5 am with no sleep best time EVER
It was fun doing this thanks Froggy!
Given that the reprised King’s Fall raid was the one released immediately before Root of Nightmares, it’s possible they used the OoB areas in KF as testing grounds for concepts and physics tests for RoN. This orb and the glow effect on it look strikingly like the planets from the Macrocosm encounter in RoN.
The sphere exists in D1
One of my favorite Destiny content creatorsalways love getting notified about an upload
I remember your Z-climb video, it's great how far we've come with Grapple
Also you getting amused at the Amogus never gets old lol
I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who has to fight in game and with a cat IRL looking fot attention
It could have been something like the planet room in RoN. It's pulsating with what looks maybe like that Rhulk power stuff. Idk, i just thought they looked alike.
Only D1 OOB thing I remember that would be relevant to the conversation is MAC cannon outside Oryx’s boss room
the cat colab, Froggy x Cat, the one I've been waiting for for years cant believe its finally happening!!!!!!!!!!!!
i LOVE when u find stuff like this
Ah, I see you too occasionally play Destiny on kitty difficulty. Funny how that will just get enabled randomly :P
Yeah. Random difficulty spikes out of nowhere ;)
that's really interesting. i wonder if this is the only place in the game this asset is ever used? it must be, considering how outdated it looks, what with the orange light emitting from it and all. nowadays that color is used for darkness stuff, not for the hive. it's almost definitely a leftover from d1 that some mapper or environment artist forgot to remove.
Yeah, if it isn't in D1, it's way more confusing. Would love to see a clip of it in game there.
Missed your vids man, love it
Glad you like em. They've been more or less weekly for some time, so you've probably got some backlog to enjoy :)
I was there on the z-climb time. it was fun to juggle 2 titans and a warlock on stasis crystals.
It's a question machine, and it's working!
I explored King's Fall like crazy, I don't remember seeing that orb though, but the skybox was active outside the map so spotting something that far out would be difficult plus there was so many objects floating out that it could just blend alongside it. That place was really massive.
Someone in Raidsecrets managed to get close enough to see it. It actually is there! No one has managed to stand on it or anything like that yet though. D1's options for height gain and distance in air are limited... I'd love to see it happen though.
@@Froggy618157725 do you have a link to that post or it's title or anything?? I have been going crazy pouring through youtube to try to find evidence of it existing in D1 since this video dropped
Dunno if this'll work, but here's a screenshot
media.discordapp.net/attachments/447171496960589844/1199235153428492308/5431e102-19c9-4b0c-8b30-983b5600dba3.png
@@Froggy618157725 AWESOME!! Wow that is wild that it is actually out there in d1. Crazy they ported it to D2, they must have had to update the asset at some point, right? Funny they didn't remove it.
At this point I’m convinced all of Froggy’s characters are canonical Thanatonauts
If I had to guess the Orb is a model of Fundament, maybe in the ordinal version of the before Bungie cut it up it was supposed to show some lore
Seems unlikely to me. Isn't Fundament a gas giant?
@@Froggy618157725 maybe after the godwave it wasn't anymore could be the core
These vids are fun, and I think your voice is fun too 😁 Cool orb
Time to ponder at the orb.
What did i do wrong?
I can't grapple fly, because when i swap my navigator's the cooldown of grapple point didn't dissapears :(
Don't be on the ground when you have the debuff. If the timer is going, you'll need to wait for it.
@@Froggy618157725 thank you, god of oob
Looks a lot like the nodes you shoot in Ron. However the sphere it self doesn’t look much like the stuff in Ron except for how the big planets spin in explicator… My guess is it was an early creating for the red border symbols to shoot and activate but they ended up going with the hive symbols instead. But they later used them in Ron and then part of the Ron encounters themselves. Would explain the continuity as well.
Honestly the ball looks like a prototype darkness planet from root of nightmares
Interesting for sure
Hey man, id be glad to see more OOB on Nessus, that place is huge and I know there are TONS of place to go oob. Thanks for reading!
Actually I take that back I just saw your playlist on Nessus
Pluto trapped by the Hive)
This looks like a mini version of the shrine of oryx from d1.
Looks like of like Crota's oversoul but unbroken... just fractured? So Oryx's oversoul?? could be an item we'll see in the future if they want to try and bring him back...
We still have never reached this on d1
Surprising, given how powerful IRB is in D1. Is it just too far a distance to cover? D1 doesn't have much for long distant flights other than sparrows, right? Or can you heavy synth in air?
@@Froggy618157725 You can synth in air but its still too far. Our sword flying is much slower and ammo intensive then d2
@@Froggy618157725 You can heavy synth in air. I think the main problem is losing height whilst sword flying. I dont remember many vertical movement techniques existing in D1
Can always skate across the ships jumping puzzle just takes some practice
I think this is the effect of the shrine of oryx (destiny 1)
7:25 Froggy forgot Hunters have blink now lmao
I think their blink didn't quite cut it. Or if it did it was difficult. Astrocyte is nice.
Unrelated to Destiny, this looks like the Stone of Jas, from Runescape 3
I don't suppose there's an OOB spot that lets you figure out where TF Oryx's arena is on the Dreadnaught, because I've looked at the profile of the ship for ages and there is no bridge or raised part of the ship.
@@samaron8970 In normal Destiny fashion, you can see close to the start of the raid from the end, and visa versa.
@Froggy618157725 I know you can see the ship jumping puzzle from the final encounter, though I've never looked the other way. Still don't understand where it is on the greater ship though.
froggy have you tried using a sword with Nadir Focus for sword flying? timing is different but it feels easier and faster than Eager Edge to me
I've tried it a bit. You need to swing close together to get Nadir to proc, and swinging close together is also a big hit for long distance sword flying. Long distance is the main thing I'm interested in.
I have found Nadir very useful for staying on the ground resisting pulls, like the pull in the Crota's End 1-2 transition.
how do you make the airborne effectivness display ?
Some reissued weapons display it by accident.
@@Ceelker oh okok
The real question is how do you not :(
@@Froggy618157725 it displays when you have an Icarus Grip mod on your weapon
noiceee some kings fall content
That orb reminda me the ones from Root of Nightmares, but bigger xd
Savathun's egg cell
Ooh I remember the funny orb from the last route. Spotting was not fun…
Such large distances. I'm still surprised we spotted the couple of pixels that are the ping pong table thing.
the orb does have some resemblance to the oversoul, doesn't it?
Do you have a discord? Been looking for a way into galaxy pools and I’m sure you’re sick to death of people asking but if there’s any way to I’d make it worth your while 🙏🏻
I have no idea how you reset the grapple point cooldown I got 2 Navigators but when switching the cooldown is the same
If you have the timer, you need to wait for it. If you swap in air, the timer doesn't start, and you lose the debuff immediately.
oh it doesn't start when airborne? that is... odd
@@DanYami Yeah. It's part of their attempt to stop infinite grapple flying. Grapple doesn't charge in air, and the countdown doesn't start.
Man the grapple flying at 12:56 was jarring bc of how sped up it was, never thought I'd see violent grapple flying 😂
how are people bypassing the cooldown on the gordian knot?
Cool down doesn't start until you touch the ground with the default. Before then, you can get rid of it by swapping.
@@Froggy618157725 the man himself responds. Thanks froggy. I appreciate you brother!
What's the secret to swapping navigators? I;ve been trying to swap them in the air and it isn't going well.
Are you on console? I just place them in the adjacent slot for PC. Dunno if console would benefit from load outs there. Titan's jump continues going while you're in menu since it's a toggle, so that gives you time to swap.
we need some bungie dev to tell us what this for
was this also in destiny 1?
IIRC, this orb was actually present in D1 Kingsfall (like you theorized). I recall watching a video of someone using hard cheats to no clip fly around OOB years ago- I believe they were doing it to formulate OOB speedrunning strats for D1 Kingsfall but then they got carried away.
What purpose did it serve, though? Idk lol
Lots of fun helping out, glad I could be a part of it 🫶🏼