I’m torn between the Karcher Xpert (commercial) & the Nilfisk p200. I’m a construction worker so cleaning the property down is a regular thing for me. The power on the p200 looks amazing from the video. This review has edged me over to the Nilfisk. 👌👍
Same here. The Karcher HD 6/13CX is a whopping £900 but it’s commercial grade. See how much I need to keep away from taxman at year end before I decide.
It's a really tricky decision isn't it, especially when you take the commercial angle into it. I think the warranty is only a year though, double check that but it's worth baring in mind. The Stihl pressure washers are Nilfisk in different dresses, I'm not sure if they are classed as domestic or trade but it's worth noting.
I chose the Nilfisk 200 simply because it's build quality puts Karcher to shame .I measured the pressure on full power it gave me 213 bar.For it's power and superb build quality,it's unbeatable but and it's a big but in your case the Nilfisk is only for domestic use ,it comes with a 5 year warranty.If you use the machine in commercial properties your warranty is then totally void. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news mate.
@turbo3492 I know about the warranty, I decide to take the hit and just accept that it is void and I'll have to pay for the repair when they fail. The commercial units are so expensive that it's worth the hit. The equivalent Kranzle costs about twice this, if not more. If I was doing this 10 hours a day, 7 days a week then it would be worth it (although I'd probably go for the K7 or K10 as I rarely need the power this thing has - if you're doing patios etc then it's a definite yes for the big units).
Thank you! Have you got a link to that kit? I don't have the pressure washer anymore as Nilfisk wanted it back (they had to practically prize it from arms!) but I have a good relationship with them so I reckon I could get another unit.
Well I'm looking at that now (time permitting! ) The Nilfisk website is not very helpful on lance or sand. I looked at Stihl - they give a part no. for 25kg.of sand. Useful . pleasure to chat.😊
Finally got the Netflix P200 after a disaster with an Ava P60 Master. The difference is night and day in power output. I bought because needing it with patio cleaning in mind. The Ava patio tool and/or their pressure washer didn't cut it, it didn't lift any dirt at all. The Nilfisk tool did the job, and now cleaning the patio isn't back breaking and takes 1/10 of the time. For cleaning the car, I got an HP280 trigger gun and it does the job nicely, in conjunction with the Autoglym snow gun. Had to turn the pressure down, doesn't need to be on full for cleaning the car.
@@SuperchargedLlama I went from a dirt cheap SunPow Amazon special to the Ava and it was ridiculous that the SunPow was better. The Ava was quiet, but just couldn't cut it.
was wondering, do you think the patio cleaner attachment was worth while for £80 I think it now for the "power" model, or just stick to the lance ? was also thinking of going a step down to the 180 model but dont want to regret it for a £100 difference.
£80 is steep for an accessory, isn't it? I thought there were different bundles available that includes the power patio cleaner head? Maybe that was in previous years, or maybe it's not the power one. The patio head is, I would say, definitely worth having as it's so much more efficient, you'll do a much bigger area far more quickly, but £80 is steep. If you've got a big patio then I think it's well worth the investment. The question of P180 Vs P200 is a tougher one. I like the extra hose length on the P200, but I also like the detergent tank of the P180, that's really cool.
Can I interject if it helps,I bought my 200 premium as a bundle which included the patio cleaner,the bundle cost me £614 from CleanStore,excellent service bytheway.Last week end I used the Patio cleaning tool for the first time,I was shocked,in use it's a Hovercraft,the machine is so powerful that it glides easily,the patio came up as new. Using it is hard work because you have to keep downward to get the best out of it. I have modified the patio cleaner now,I put a 2 pound weight on top of the tool so now it's a joy to use.
Yesterday, my old trusty Aldi pressure washer died on me after 25 years. I bought a nilfisk P190 (the biggest available) and did the same job in less than half of the time. The power and effectiveness of this machine is just mindboggeling!
It's phenomenal isn't it? You really can't comprehend the difference in power until you use one. I tried to demonstrate that here but it's really difficult to convey.
A comparsion between the Nilfisk P200 and the AVA Evolution P90 would be interesting. I think that would be a fair review 200bar with 650 liters/h vs 730 liters/h with 160 bar
I don't think the P90 is available in the UK, but we did have the P80. There were a lot of issues with that model but I believe there's a v2 on it's way, so that would be roughly comparable. The P60 is too underpowered to make it fair, so I thought I'd just give a comparison between the different price points, rather than judging one Vs the other in this case. I did fit the lance and gun on to this, but I realised the Vario nozzle I have is for the P30-P60, I didn't want to cause back pressure issues on the P200 with those nozzles.
@@SuperchargedLlamagreat then maybe we will see a comparison in the future :-) I need a new pressure washer but i'm not really sure what to get. At this time a was thinking maybe a AVA P80 or P90 because they also have 20 year warranty. Nilfisk would gave you 30 year but only when you buy it in specifics shops and also live in Germany, but maybe there is a way to get that warranty so then it would be a hard desition between AVA and Nilfisk. The third option would be a Kränzle 2075 or 2060 would be nice but they are so expensive and don't have that warranty options. Still they are build like tanks 😀
I have the E145.3 and that black rubber grommet at 14:00 which acts as a stop for the hose connector, blackens my hand every time I have to grip it when changing the lance. It didn’t use to, so I’m assuming it has deteriorated over the years. I’m actually going to change the hose, because it is so annoying how it kinks each time I use it. Thanks for the video.
@@SuperchargedLlama I’ve had it about 6 years, but it’s not used commercially, just for my car, about once a month. It’s probably deteriorated but it causes a very dirty hand!
Would anyone know if the Nilfisk spray gun & extension lance both use the same connector? Just wondering if the Autoglym Nilfisk polar blaster adapter would fit into the spray gun or just the extension end, so making it a bit gangly to use. I'd prefer direct into the spray gun, but think I heard that the connections were different.
I reckon it does dude, yes. I've got the 1/4" quick release adapter in the "gun" part, which looks exactly the same as the bayonet fittings they use. If you want you can DM me on Instagram and send me a picture of your connection and I'll be able to advise better.
Been there (Costco, when they stocked them and had a sale on), got that. Last year, after my prehistoric Karcher 7.85 finally gave up. Saying it's heavy, not as heavy (or unwieldy) as the Karcher. No idea what the adjuster adjusts to but I run it at mid point between full and turned down and it's plenty.
Yeah it's weird they don't document the difference in pressure, but as I said in the video - it feels like the lowest setting it was like my C135i, the middle seemed like the E160. And at full power I had no concerns about the paint or sign writing on the van. I definitely didn't need to get a close to shift stubborn stuff though.
That looks a very Impressive machine but at a price.A very good and fair review as all your videos are.The Grey7 is still giving good service and it's got a new Mtm stubby gun and Carscope nozzles after my Waxstock trip which has really improved things from the cheap generic gun and nozzles.
I have to say that the Grey 7 and 10 have a great reputation, don't they? And apparently if you buy it from Briistol Detailing Supplies you manage to avoid the Direct Hoses customer service lottery. Which is good. There's a new model as well I believe, the OR11 - seems to have replaced the AB9 I think.
Thanks! I think this would be great in my house where I can just wheel it out of the garage It's less good in my parent's house largely because they've got a terraced house and I'd have to take a 30kg device out from the cellar once a week or so which is less ideal
Unfortunately I had to give it back to Nilfisk after 6 months, and I miss it a lot. It was faultless, I loved the hose and the inbuilt reel, but the power is something else (and it's great you can dial it back). I wouldn't hesitate to recommend.
That's a nice conundrum to have! I really like the Nilfisk P200, it's quite a lot more money over the P180 given the little extra you actually get, but the hose length is so SO good. Then there's the Ava, which I didn't know was available yet, it's not available direct, which is odd. It's not as powerful as the Nilfisk and it has a shorter hose....but it's more than powerful enough and you can also buy the extension hose if you wanted a longer one...plus the lance and nozzles are incredible. I think if it were my money I'd go Nilfisk on this one and just get a nice stubby gun to use with it, or the quick release adapter .
It is. Especially if you do lots more than cleaning the car, big patios is where this comes up trumps/is it's party trick. No need for a chemical to remove the lichen either.
Could you run your C135 with the nozzle all the way open without any issues? I've upgraded from a C110 and loads more powerful. Just don't want to take the paint off
Great video. I agree for £550-600, I’d expect a better range of nozzles and a better foam cannon as it seems very thirsty. Also 30kgs, that is was one heavy unit
On most site it's listed as pro brass pump but on nilfisk website it's labeled consumer aluminum pump... Did someone actually benched their p200? What is stock orifice/nozzle size? With wich nozzle should I go in a short gun? What are the actual numbers of flow/psi with wich nozzle? Can't find much info about it.
Most detailing specific pw are hard to get in France, active 2.0,big boi, even Ava is unavailable for now... So I was keen to get a p200 to be able to Clean patios, roofs, fences and other "garden tools" and still be able to attach a short gun and foam canon to detail monthly 3 cars.
I wish I could answer that for you but unfortunately I can't 😬 I'd personally personally recommend the MTMSgs35 stubby gun but I'm not sure what orifice nozzles you'd need, the retailers should be able to tell you though.
@@SuperchargedLlama Oh that’s a shame. Takes me a full 2 days to do our patio (it’s massive) and it get quite tiring holding the trigger for 8 hours at a time. Cheers though.
@@JameysVideos I would suggest looking at an Ava pressure washer as they've got this special trigger that takes barely any effort to keep it fully depressed, it really is phenomenally good.
@@SuperchargedLlama Will do, thanks. Found this review as was thinking that upping the pressure (existing one is a Nilfisk 125 bar) might help me get it done faster.
Im between the Kränzle k1050 and this Nilfisk. The Nilfisk is from data much more powerful (150 bar vs 130 bar and 570 l/h vs 450 l/h long term, not peak output). But I was reading in one review that the Nilfisks power is a lot lesser than they are writing, but in the review they are not writing if its lower than peak or lower than long term output. A test of the water per minute would be nice. Also the plastic quality is much cheaper on the Nilfisk and the connectors are out of plastic too. Here would be a deeper showing very nice. Otherwise great video!
You're welcome, thanks for watching. I'd say that if you can afford the Kranzle then I'd get that, it's a professional grade machine and the quality is higher, as you've pointed out. You're paying for that of course, and it depends what you want to do with it. I have no problems recommending the Nilfisk if that makes sense, it's easily the best domestic machine I've used, superbly well made and immensely powerful (it is more powerful than the Kranzle, and when you're cleaning patios, that's really useful). Unfortunately I can't make any further content as Nilfisk wanted the unit back - I had it for 6 months and absolutely loved it, I do really miss it except for the lack of stubby gun, which again is where the Kranzle is very good.
Thank you darling! I need to try out the cheaper Core line that's replaced the brilliant C models we have, because they've ditched the induction motors there....but that's another topic. This thing is unreal, although it would be good to go side by side with the new P90 from Ava I guess. That's a flow rate Vs pressure in terms of what makes the biggest difference. Both mega machines though, it's so satisfying to use!
I'd personally go for the Nilfisk as I think they are better made, both are good but I can say (subjectively) that the hose on the P200 is better quality.
@SuperchargedLlama Thanks for you reply ok seem to be good quality nilfish put expensive because the most powerful electric I thing more power than k7 premium is it correct I sow other model nilfisk cheaper put less power
I can't remember, didn't I say in the video? (I made it a while ago, sorry if I didn't, I did for the other ones I have reviewed); I think you'll be able to find out with some googling though
Oooooh that's an interesting one. I'd probably go with the P200 because the Ava P70 Evo has had a load of issues around blowing fuses etc. I think there's a revised version coming to market at some point which I would think would be fine, but if you want it now then I'd go for the P200, you can always buy and use the Ava lance and their nozzles and accessories with it if you were inclined to. Hold tight for a bit if you can, I maybe getting a discount code for Nilfisk direct in the next couple of weeks.
There's a section in this video which compares it to the Ava P57 so you can tell directly. The induction motor powered ones are definitely quieter than the cheaper, universal motors. The P200 is definitely louder than the E160, which is louder than the C135 in turn, but they're all way quieter than the Ava P57. I think the P200 is 88db max, and the Ava is 95db from memory. Decibels aren't a Linea scale, it's logarithmic, so 95db is a lot louder than 88db
@@SuperchargedLlama Yep. Understand how decibels work 😉 Noise level is really important factor for me. Not the only factor but a big one. Think this machine could make my shortlist.
@@quentinsjames ah that's good to know, makes explaining it easier for sure. I'd say one of the things you can really see in this video is the difference in pitch as well, the induction motors are far lower I find.
As someone with Ava’s brilliant Go P55 I was very interested in your view on the substantially more powerful 200 bar Nilfisk. How does it compare to Ava Evolution models. The cost of the premium 200 is as tested with the patio cleaner £600. How does it compare to the bigger Ava models which to be fair are still £200 cheaper than this Nilfisk but don’t have the power either. I have a lot of patio and driveway to clean and am thinking of having a top of the range machine for that whilst keeping the P55 for the car which it’s great for. What’s your recommendation?
That's exactly the right sort of question to be asking I think - I've used an Ava P60 and, I think, a P70. They're properly powerful of course, but this thing is absolutely next level. It's very effective, but also more efficient too, so the jobs like the patio take anywhere between a half and two thirds of the time, whilst achieving a better result. With that in mind, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the P200. Yup can buy direct from Nilfisk on eBay actually, let me grab a link for you (they don't sell direct to consumer through their own platform yet, but it's coming on the new year).
I can't turn it on, the breaker box in the house keeps on failing *EDIT (fix) I changed my circuit breaker from a B16 to a C16 (takes longer to trip with heavy equipment) It solved the problem!
interesting, but for that money, I'd probably thinking about a kranzle, cause I;d need a stubby gun and foam lance anyway. Shame about the lack of stubby and poor snow foam lance, as it looks like a machine geared towards enthusiast level, but bottled it on the last run in.
I can understand why you'd look at a Kranzle at this point. For the average member of public though, this ticks all the boxes in terms equipment - yeah, the foam bottle isn't the best, but you could get 3% PIR out of it, which should be enough for most people, and tbh it plays on the safe side I guess. Little chance of someone going mental with a TFR and causing massive chemical damage? For me personally it's the stubby gun that's the issue really (I say that, the foam bottle doesn't satisfy my needs tbh, not when the Ava one exists - I think the Premium one is the one they'll bundle with future models), I'm looking forward to seeing what the revised Evo P70 is like as I suspect that'll be the sweet spot in all this. Your summation that they bottled it does feel true to me as well. I was able to give them the feedback on the foam lance, so let's see what they do with that!
@@SuperchargedLlama Its more a mixing bottle that you could use, but probably won't. Dont get me wrong, the motor on this is probably going to outlast a karcher, and the hose looks way better than anything karcher has(karcher hp hose is not flexible enough for my liking). I also use the patio cleaner as a car under-carriage cleaner. turn it upside down, but watch the pressure. Great in the spring for blasting off the road salt and winter grime :) I was disappointed that karcher discontinued their one
@@peemick I am 💯 with you on the hose being great here, as well as Karcher being so silly for removing the undercarriage cleaner. I can only imagine they just didn't sell enough of them to make it viable.
It was interesting and i did enjoy it 👍. I find it odd that each PW review i watch, theres always a negative, usually the cannon, but if its not that, it's a short hose, or an unbraided hose, or storage or something else..... there doesn't seem to be one that is goldilocks, not that ive watched a review of. And im not including the shite reviews that are just sales pitches 😂😂. All the best. 👍
That's an interesting point. I guess I'm always looking to make something balanced when it comes to reviews, so I look to find something that isn't perfect. Sometimes it's all too easy to find them. I'd say the Ava P57 Easy is the most complete pressure washer you can buy at the moment though, it's a 9/10, verging on 10. The only negative I can think of is that it's not an induction motor.
@SuperchargedLlama thanks Adrian. The lack of an induction motor is probably not an issue for me, I use my PW once per week, so when my one does finally fail, I'll look at that Ava you refer to. BTW, I was not having a dig at the video, it was aimed at the manufacturers.
@@decker0373 oh I feel ya completely. And then there's other UA-camrs who just give positive reviews of every single product that comes there way. I don't mind promotional videos, but ones that are masquerading as critique , but aren't legit, annoy me.
@SuperchargedLlama yep, that's the type of sales pitch that is of no use to the consumer. Having said all of the above, most of us don't need to spend huge amounts, we just want to clean the car and, aren't too fussed by lots of features, just a basic machine that does the job is good enough. My K3 does a fab job, yes it has faults and isn't ergonomic, but it's cheap and works. Cheers Adrian, top fella!
@@SuperchargedLlama Interresting. Even tho it is allowed, are you reflecting on all the heavy metals, oils and chemicals not being filtered? Loved the video, just want you to set a good example for the rest of us❤️
You can get yours direct from Nilfisk via their eBay store: ebay.us/Caswfh
Best machine for detailing just got mine. Absolutely no complaints. Excellent. Very heavy machine but I love it
It's an absolute beast isn't it? I was gutted to give it back to be honest.
I’m torn between the Karcher Xpert (commercial) & the Nilfisk p200. I’m a construction worker so cleaning the property down is a regular thing for me. The power on the p200 looks amazing from the video. This review has edged me over to the Nilfisk. 👌👍
Same here. The Karcher HD 6/13CX is a whopping £900 but it’s commercial grade. See how much I need to keep away from taxman at year end before I decide.
It's a really tricky decision isn't it, especially when you take the commercial angle into it. I think the warranty is only a year though, double check that but it's worth baring in mind.
The Stihl pressure washers are Nilfisk in different dresses, I'm not sure if they are classed as domestic or trade but it's worth noting.
I chose the Nilfisk 200 simply because it's build quality puts Karcher to shame .I measured the pressure on full power it gave me 213 bar.For it's power and superb build quality,it's unbeatable but and it's a big but in your case the Nilfisk is only for domestic use ,it comes with a 5 year warranty.If you use the machine in commercial properties your warranty is then totally void. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news mate.
@turbo3492 I know about the warranty, I decide to take the hit and just accept that it is void and I'll have to pay for the repair when they fail. The commercial units are so expensive that it's worth the hit. The equivalent Kranzle costs about twice this, if not more. If I was doing this 10 hours a day, 7 days a week then it would be worth it (although I'd probably go for the K7 or K10 as I rarely need the power this thing has - if you're doing patios etc then it's a definite yes for the big units).
As always, another "Thinking Mans Video" Adrian. Really like your down to earth, matter of fact style and very informative.. Keep up the videos.
Thank you darling! I get a lot of satisfaction from comments such as yours, thanks for taking the time to write it.
Very helpful and well presented. Do another one please with the sandblasting kit for patio furniture,bbq grills etc. ???
Thank you! Have you got a link to that kit? I don't have the pressure washer anymore as Nilfisk wanted it back (they had to practically prize it from arms!) but I have a good relationship with them so I reckon I could get another unit.
Well I'm looking at that now (time permitting! ) The Nilfisk website is not very helpful on lance or sand. I looked at Stihl - they give a part no. for 25kg.of sand. Useful . pleasure to chat.😊
@@marcheritier4 you're welcome. I hadn't heard about the sand blasting so I'm going to look into it myself.
Finally got the Netflix P200 after a disaster with an Ava P60 Master. The difference is night and day in power output. I bought because needing it with patio cleaning in mind. The Ava patio tool and/or their pressure washer didn't cut it, it didn't lift any dirt at all. The Nilfisk tool did the job, and now cleaning the patio isn't back breaking and takes 1/10 of the time. For cleaning the car, I got an HP280 trigger gun and it does the job nicely, in conjunction with the Autoglym snow gun. Had to turn the pressure down, doesn't need to be on full for cleaning the car.
It's an absolute monster isn't it? Really glad you're happy with your purchase.
@@SuperchargedLlama I went from a dirt cheap SunPow Amazon special to the Ava and it was ridiculous that the SunPow was better. The Ava was quiet, but just couldn't cut it.
@BrianLonsdale that really is poor. The cheaper Ava's have been really good, but I've not seen many positive reviews of the P60 line.
was wondering, do you think the patio cleaner attachment was worth while for £80 I think it now for the "power" model, or just stick to the lance ? was also thinking of going a step down to the 180 model but dont want to regret it for a £100 difference.
£80 is steep for an accessory, isn't it? I thought there were different bundles available that includes the power patio cleaner head? Maybe that was in previous years, or maybe it's not the power one.
The patio head is, I would say, definitely worth having as it's so much more efficient, you'll do a much bigger area far more quickly, but £80 is steep. If you've got a big patio then I think it's well worth the investment.
The question of P180 Vs P200 is a tougher one. I like the extra hose length on the P200, but I also like the detergent tank of the P180, that's really cool.
Can I interject if it helps,I bought my 200 premium as a bundle which included the patio cleaner,the bundle cost me £614 from CleanStore,excellent service bytheway.Last week end I used the Patio cleaning tool for the first time,I was shocked,in use it's a Hovercraft,the machine is so powerful that it glides easily,the patio came up as new.
Using it is hard work because you have to keep downward to get the best out of it.
I have modified the patio cleaner now,I put a 2 pound weight on top of the tool so now it's a joy to use.
Yesterday, my old trusty Aldi pressure washer died on me after 25 years. I bought a nilfisk P190 (the biggest available) and did the same job in less than half of the time. The power and effectiveness of this machine is just mindboggeling!
It's phenomenal isn't it? You really can't comprehend the difference in power until you use one. I tried to demonstrate that here but it's really difficult to convey.
A comparsion between the Nilfisk P200 and the AVA Evolution P90 would be interesting. I think that would be a fair review 200bar with 650 liters/h vs 730 liters/h with 160 bar
I don't think the P90 is available in the UK, but we did have the P80. There were a lot of issues with that model but I believe there's a v2 on it's way, so that would be roughly comparable. The P60 is too underpowered to make it fair, so I thought I'd just give a comparison between the different price points, rather than judging one Vs the other in this case. I did fit the lance and gun on to this, but I realised the Vario nozzle I have is for the P30-P60, I didn't want to cause back pressure issues on the P200 with those nozzles.
I stand corrected, the P90 is available in the UK and is the P80v2 I believe.
@@SuperchargedLlamagreat then maybe we will see a comparison in the future :-) I need a new pressure washer but i'm not really sure what to get. At this time a was thinking maybe a AVA P80 or P90 because they also have 20 year warranty. Nilfisk would gave you 30 year but only when you buy it in specifics shops and also live in Germany, but maybe there is a way to get that warranty so then it would be a hard desition between AVA and Nilfisk. The third option would be a Kränzle 2075 or 2060 would be nice but they are so expensive and don't have that warranty options. Still they are build like tanks 😀
I have the E145.3 and that black rubber grommet at 14:00 which acts as a stop for the hose connector, blackens my hand every time I have to grip it when changing the lance. It didn’t use to, so I’m assuming it has deteriorated over the years.
I’m actually going to change the hose, because it is so annoying how it kinks each time I use it.
Thanks for the video.
Out of interest, how long have you had that? Do you think it's just age, or did you get a chemical on it too?
@@SuperchargedLlama I’ve had it about 6 years, but it’s not used commercially, just for my car, about once a month.
It’s probably deteriorated but it causes a very dirty hand!
@BF1GUN that sounds frustrating!
Would anyone know if the Nilfisk spray gun & extension lance both use the same connector? Just wondering if the Autoglym Nilfisk polar blaster adapter would fit into the spray gun or just the extension end, so making it a bit gangly to use. I'd prefer direct into the spray gun, but think I heard that the connections were different.
I reckon it does dude, yes. I've got the 1/4" quick release adapter in the "gun" part, which looks exactly the same as the bayonet fittings they use.
If you want you can DM me on Instagram and send me a picture of your connection and I'll be able to advise better.
Been there (Costco, when they stocked them and had a sale on), got that. Last year, after my prehistoric Karcher 7.85 finally gave up. Saying it's heavy, not as heavy (or unwieldy) as the Karcher. No idea what the adjuster adjusts to but I run it at mid point between full and turned down and it's plenty.
Yeah it's weird they don't document the difference in pressure, but as I said in the video - it feels like the lowest setting it was like my C135i, the middle seemed like the E160. And at full power I had no concerns about the paint or sign writing on the van. I definitely didn't need to get a close to shift stubborn stuff though.
That looks a very Impressive machine but at a price.A very good and fair review as all your videos are.The Grey7 is still giving good service and it's got a new Mtm stubby gun and Carscope nozzles after my Waxstock trip which has really improved things from the cheap generic gun and nozzles.
I have to say that the Grey 7 and 10 have a great reputation, don't they? And apparently if you buy it from Briistol Detailing Supplies you manage to avoid the Direct Hoses customer service lottery. Which is good.
There's a new model as well I believe, the OR11 - seems to have replaced the AB9 I think.
Thanks! I think this would be great in my house where I can just wheel it out of the garage
It's less good in my parent's house largely because they've got a terraced house and I'd have to take a 30kg device out from the cellar once a week or so which is less ideal
Saves a trip to the gym though 🤣
Great review thanks im really tempted, how is it holding out? Cheers
Unfortunately I had to give it back to Nilfisk after 6 months, and I miss it a lot. It was faultless, I loved the hose and the inbuilt reel, but the power is something else (and it's great you can dial it back). I wouldn't hesitate to recommend.
@@SuperchargedLlama Thanks for the reply, shame you had to give it back. I'm going to order one . Cheers
Great channel, I’m torn between P200-P180 or newly released Ava P80 what are your thoughts??
That's a nice conundrum to have! I really like the Nilfisk P200, it's quite a lot more money over the P180 given the little extra you actually get, but the hose length is so SO good.
Then there's the Ava, which I didn't know was available yet, it's not available direct, which is odd. It's not as powerful as the Nilfisk and it has a shorter hose....but it's more than powerful enough and you can also buy the extension hose if you wanted a longer one...plus the lance and nozzles are incredible.
I think if it were my money I'd go Nilfisk on this one and just get a nice stubby gun to use with it, or the quick release adapter .
Looks a bloody good machine. Great review.
It is. Especially if you do lots more than cleaning the car, big patios is where this comes up trumps/is it's party trick. No need for a chemical to remove the lichen either.
Could you run your C135 with the nozzle all the way open without any issues? I've upgraded from a C110 and loads more powerful. Just don't want to take the paint off
Yup absolutely, I use it with a stubby gun and various nozzles now, but I never had an issue running it with the Nilfisk nozzles at full chat.
Great video. I agree for £550-600, I’d expect a better range of nozzles and a better foam cannon as it seems very thirsty. Also 30kgs, that is was one heavy unit
They've passed my feedback on to the product development team so maybe something with come of it! Thanks for watching dude 🤟
On most site it's listed as pro brass pump but on nilfisk website it's labeled consumer aluminum pump... Did someone actually benched their p200? What is stock orifice/nozzle size? With wich nozzle should I go in a short gun? What are the actual numbers of flow/psi with wich nozzle? Can't find much info about it.
Most detailing specific pw are hard to get in France, active 2.0,big boi, even Ava is unavailable for now... So I was keen to get a p200 to be able to Clean patios, roofs, fences and other "garden tools" and still be able to attach a short gun and foam canon to detail monthly 3 cars.
I wish I could answer that for you but unfortunately I can't 😬
I'd personally personally recommend the MTMSgs35 stubby gun but I'm not sure what orifice nozzles you'd need, the retailers should be able to tell you though.
@@SuperchargedLlama 🙏🏻❤️
Just ordered a p200-15, will try to post results here.
Cheers. Does the trigger lock on, so you don’t have to keep squeezing for the whole time you want it on?
It doesn't, no. I think you'll be hard pushed to find one that does as it's a safety risk
@@SuperchargedLlama Oh that’s a shame. Takes me a full 2 days to do our patio (it’s massive) and it get quite tiring holding the trigger for 8 hours at a time. Cheers though.
@@JameysVideos I would suggest looking at an Ava pressure washer as they've got this special trigger that takes barely any effort to keep it fully depressed, it really is phenomenally good.
@@SuperchargedLlama Will do, thanks. Found this review as was thinking that upping the pressure (existing one is a Nilfisk 125 bar) might help me get it done faster.
@JameysVideos I can say for sure that it will!
Im between the Kränzle k1050 and this Nilfisk. The Nilfisk is from data much more powerful (150 bar vs 130 bar and 570 l/h vs 450 l/h long term, not peak output). But I was reading in one review that the Nilfisks power is a lot lesser than they are writing, but in the review they are not writing if its lower than peak or lower than long term output. A test of the water per minute would be nice. Also the plastic quality is much cheaper on the Nilfisk and the connectors are out of plastic too. Here would be a deeper showing very nice.
Otherwise great video!
You're welcome, thanks for watching.
I'd say that if you can afford the Kranzle then I'd get that, it's a professional grade machine and the quality is higher, as you've pointed out. You're paying for that of course, and it depends what you want to do with it.
I have no problems recommending the Nilfisk if that makes sense, it's easily the best domestic machine I've used, superbly well made and immensely powerful (it is more powerful than the Kranzle, and when you're cleaning patios, that's really useful).
Unfortunately I can't make any further content as Nilfisk wanted the unit back - I had it for 6 months and absolutely loved it, I do really miss it except for the lack of stubby gun, which again is where the Kranzle is very good.
Love a Nilfisk
Great review
Excellent machine.
You pay for what you get.
My Nilfisks have been bullet proof. Still going strong my 8 yr old 150
Thank you darling! I need to try out the cheaper Core line that's replaced the brilliant C models we have, because they've ditched the induction motors there....but that's another topic.
This thing is unreal, although it would be good to go side by side with the new P90 from Ava I guess. That's a flow rate Vs pressure in terms of what makes the biggest difference. Both mega machines though, it's so satisfying to use!
@@SuperchargedLlama we should bring all our pressure washers together and do a big review.
That's amazing it's lasted so long!
Many thanks for you review shich one is better Nilfisk Premium 200-15 Pressure Washer -
Or kracher k7 premium
I'd personally go for the Nilfisk as I think they are better made, both are good but I can say (subjectively) that the hose on the P200 is better quality.
@SuperchargedLlama
Thanks for you reply ok seem to be good quality nilfish put expensive because the most powerful electric I thing more power than k7 premium is it correct I sow other model nilfisk cheaper put less power
@@security-pb4ee that's right, the Nilfisk does have a higher peak pressure.
@@SuperchargedLlama
Many thanks for your help
Did you test k7 premium
@@security-pb4ee I've used a friends in the past, but no, not recently.
It states 200 bar as max pressure, what’s the actual working pressure ?
I can't remember, didn't I say in the video? (I made it a while ago, sorry if I didn't, I did for the other ones I have reviewed); I think you'll be able to find out with some googling though
I have the P150 it's a brilliant machine,that must be even better 👍
I can say for sure that this is an absolute monster! That square of my patio that I did is easily the cleanest bit even a year on.
Great chanel, subscribed 😊. Im wondering if i should get this as I'll need it for the patio as well as car detailing, so this or or ava p70 p80?
Oooooh that's an interesting one. I'd probably go with the P200 because the Ava P70 Evo has had a load of issues around blowing fuses etc. I think there's a revised version coming to market at some point which I would think would be fine, but if you want it now then I'd go for the P200, you can always buy and use the Ava lance and their nozzles and accessories with it if you were inclined to.
Hold tight for a bit if you can, I maybe getting a discount code for Nilfisk direct in the next couple of weeks.
@@SuperchargedLlamaany update on that discount code please?
@@lottieisthequarry no news yet I'm afraid! No idea when I will either.
I suppose one argument for a really powerful PW could be that you can run it at half power all the time. No stress on the unit and it'll last forever
I hadn't thought of that at all, but you're absolutely right.
How loud would you say this Nilfisk is compared to other pressure washers that you've tested?
There's a section in this video which compares it to the Ava P57 so you can tell directly. The induction motor powered ones are definitely quieter than the cheaper, universal motors. The P200 is definitely louder than the E160, which is louder than the C135 in turn, but they're all way quieter than the Ava P57. I think the P200 is 88db max, and the Ava is 95db from memory. Decibels aren't a Linea scale, it's logarithmic, so 95db is a lot louder than 88db
@@SuperchargedLlama Thanks for the info 😉
@@quentinsjames you're welcome. I hope it made sense, there's a great diagram of you Google the decibel scale
@@SuperchargedLlama Yep. Understand how decibels work 😉 Noise level is really important factor for me. Not the only factor but a big one. Think this machine could make my shortlist.
@@quentinsjames ah that's good to know, makes explaining it easier for sure.
I'd say one of the things you can really see in this video is the difference in pitch as well, the induction motors are far lower I find.
These are re sold in Australia under a brand called Gerni i got mine from Bunnings.
That's pretty cool, I didn't realise that. Stihl branded ones are also Nilfisk.
@@SuperchargedLlama Yes they are!
As someone with Ava’s brilliant Go P55 I was very interested in your view on the substantially more powerful 200 bar Nilfisk. How does it compare to Ava Evolution models. The cost of the premium 200 is as tested with the patio cleaner £600. How does it compare to the bigger Ava models which to be fair are still £200 cheaper than this Nilfisk but don’t have the power either. I have a lot of patio and driveway to clean and am thinking of having a top of the range machine for that whilst keeping the P55 for the car which it’s great for. What’s your recommendation?
That's exactly the right sort of question to be asking I think - I've used an Ava P60 and, I think, a P70. They're properly powerful of course, but this thing is absolutely next level. It's very effective, but also more efficient too, so the jobs like the patio take anywhere between a half and two thirds of the time, whilst achieving a better result. With that in mind, I wouldn't hesitate to buy the P200. Yup can buy direct from Nilfisk on eBay actually, let me grab a link for you (they don't sell direct to consumer through their own platform yet, but it's coming on the new year).
Here we go ebay.us/Caswfh
I can't turn it on, the breaker box in the house keeps on failing
*EDIT (fix)
I changed my circuit breaker from a B16 to a C16 (takes longer to trip with heavy equipment) It solved the problem!
Interesting, are you using it on an extension lead?
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@@SuperchargedLlama woops, haven't replied... I changed my b16 cicuit breaker to a C16, that fixed it!
@ebasguy that's a great bit of advice that I'll now pass on to other people should they ask! It comes up a lot.
@SuperchargedLlama no problem, great video you got there! Ill make sure I update my comment 😉
What is your personal pressure washer of choice, please choose your weapon.
This Nilfisk P200 if I had the money, or the Ava P57 Easy of it didn't have the budget.
interesting, but for that money, I'd probably thinking about a kranzle, cause I;d need a stubby gun and foam lance anyway. Shame about the lack of stubby and poor snow foam lance, as it looks like a machine geared towards enthusiast level, but bottled it on the last run in.
I can understand why you'd look at a Kranzle at this point. For the average member of public though, this ticks all the boxes in terms equipment - yeah, the foam bottle isn't the best, but you could get 3% PIR out of it, which should be enough for most people, and tbh it plays on the safe side I guess. Little chance of someone going mental with a TFR and causing massive chemical damage?
For me personally it's the stubby gun that's the issue really (I say that, the foam bottle doesn't satisfy my needs tbh, not when the Ava one exists - I think the Premium one is the one they'll bundle with future models), I'm looking forward to seeing what the revised Evo P70 is like as I suspect that'll be the sweet spot in all this.
Your summation that they bottled it does feel true to me as well. I was able to give them the feedback on the foam lance, so let's see what they do with that!
@@SuperchargedLlama Its more a mixing bottle that you could use, but probably won't. Dont get me wrong, the motor on this is probably going to outlast a karcher, and the hose looks way better than anything karcher has(karcher hp hose is not flexible enough for my liking). I also use the patio cleaner as a car under-carriage cleaner. turn it upside down, but watch the pressure. Great in the spring for blasting off the road salt and winter grime :) I was disappointed that karcher discontinued their one
@@peemick I am 💯 with you on the hose being great here, as well as Karcher being so silly for removing the undercarriage cleaner.
I can only imagine they just didn't sell enough of them to make it viable.
You can buy stubby guns for it.
It was interesting and i did enjoy it 👍. I find it odd that each PW review i watch, theres always a negative, usually the cannon, but if its not that, it's a short hose, or an unbraided hose, or storage or something else..... there doesn't seem to be one that is goldilocks, not that ive watched a review of. And im not including the shite reviews that are just sales pitches 😂😂. All the best. 👍
That's an interesting point. I guess I'm always looking to make something balanced when it comes to reviews, so I look to find something that isn't perfect. Sometimes it's all too easy to find them.
I'd say the Ava P57 Easy is the most complete pressure washer you can buy at the moment though, it's a 9/10, verging on 10. The only negative I can think of is that it's not an induction motor.
@SuperchargedLlama thanks Adrian. The lack of an induction motor is probably not an issue for me, I use my PW once per week, so when my one does finally fail, I'll look at that Ava you refer to. BTW, I was not having a dig at the video, it was aimed at the manufacturers.
@@decker0373 oh I feel ya completely. And then there's other UA-camrs who just give positive reviews of every single product that comes there way. I don't mind promotional videos, but ones that are masquerading as critique , but aren't legit, annoy me.
@SuperchargedLlama yep, that's the type of sales pitch that is of no use to the consumer. Having said all of the above, most of us don't need to spend huge amounts, we just want to clean the car and, aren't too fussed by lots of features, just a basic machine that does the job is good enough. My K3 does a fab job, yes it has faults and isn't ergonomic, but it's cheap and works. Cheers Adrian, top fella!
@@decker0373 you're welcome darling!
Are you allowed to wash your car in the driveway in GB? Not good for the environment........
Yup, there's no legislation preventing it. There is in Scotland, but in England we're allowed to.
@@SuperchargedLlama Interresting.
Even tho it is allowed, are you reflecting on all the heavy metals, oils and chemicals not being filtered?
Loved the video, just want you to set a good example for the rest of us❤️
Lol
@@SlowXDreams lol2