Really terrible that she felt her mother wouldn't believe her. Very painful feeling and I wonder what her mother could have done that made her feel like that. She constantly accused her of seeing boys as a teen but earlier in her childhood probably made her feel unimportant.
I wonder if the mother sensed something was off but failed in communication/listening to get the grip of it as it was. I kind of wonder if Patty was off in a way that could bevisible to others. Intellectually she faired ok in school yet still she was approached by Frank in a way and her own behaviour seems like that of somebody with an intellectual glitch. Looking for a killer and meeting up with a guy who are to help with another to get a job with lawenforcement?
@@MrsDetroit622 She could of course be an introvert and enjoying reading at an early adolescence when her agegroyp typically socialize a lot with eachother but there could have been an element of finding the library as a sort of safe withdrawal zone. There are other people there but still a norm/culture of not bothering others.
I think the really heartbreaking thing about this case is that Patricia spent practically all her life around adults who only saw her as a s*x object to either be protected or exploited, and I can't help but think that played a serious role in how things turned out.
You are making it seem like her mother caused her to do this, that is bullshit and a slap in the face to the victims including her brother who was only 13 years old at the time. People always forgets about the victims, she is right where she belongs in jail.
I just get sick of hearing the lame excuses people use to almost justify murder. To place the blame on her mother is disgusting. Patty chose to murder so let her ass rot in prison
Okay, I commented before watching it and now I’m back. Patty was my babysitter when I was young. She stopped when she started working at Walgreen’s. Her brother and my cousin were classmates and friends. They lived about 3 houses apart from each other. The family were known “eccentric” and some people did think there were mob ties. They were also obsessed with their poodle, who’s name escapes me. After the murders, no one suspected Patty. They thought it was random hippies. Neighbors believed they got in using a garage door opener because back then they were all the same frequency. People disconnected their garage doors. When it turned out to be Patty it was shocking. It still is. There are a few things left out here but also, a lot I didn’t know. My cousin can’t be in the room when this is discussed. I wonder what he would think. I’m not going to bring it up though. As always, this is really well done. I seldom comment but I’m a big fan.
If you don't mind me asking, from you can recall, what was Patty like as a person in your family's interactions with her? Was there anything particularly "off" about Patty from what you can remember?
@@joshmay7921 She was probably about 8-10 years older than I which is a lot growing up. She wasn’t particularly fun as a babysitter. Kind of bratty. I heard later there was a lot of sibling rivalry but only on her part. The family kind of kept to themselves but her brother was very nice. I remember my Aunt saying she saw her at Walgreen’s and that she had tons of makeup on a looked really “loose” in my Aunt’s term.
@@sbalsamo410 1.Did it seem like she took up babysitting as a begrudging obligation from her family? 2.Yeah, I read many accounts that Patty had a very two faced relationship with her brother. On one hand, I recall that she doted on Mike and showered him with free food from her job, but was also extremely jealous of him and believed that he diverted their parents’ attention away from her. If I’m remembering the details correctly, I think this manifested in Patty initially insisting that Micheal being spared, but decided on killing him herself after DeLuca convinced her otherwise. 3.Did you hear that DeLuca passed away a few days ago?
I think through the vast majority of these killing stories, we can conclude that children being sexualized and/or molested at a young age causes some serious problems and we should really be focusing more attention on protecting children from adults who would harm children in this way.
Problem is it's hard to tell. I mean my parents personally created a perfect shell where on the outside they looked like upstanding fine people and unless you were in my house would you know that they were abusive. I heard "but your parents were so (enter compliment here)" a lot.
I hate how much I related to this one. My adoptive mom accused me of everything under the sun….yet it was her husband molesting me for near a decade but I had already been conditioned by her to believe I was the deviant attracting men. These women are obsessed with purity yet encourage the abuse they fear with their own actions and accusations sadly.
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Its usually because that mother was abused herself. So they become paranoid and control freaks. Your mother might have been abused or know someone who was. Likewise it can go in the reverse where the mother doesn't care and even let's people abuse her kids, which is more common. Parents honestly usually try their best... but most are messed up, either alcoholics or weed addicts or control strict freaks or overly emotionally invested and suffocate their kids, or are totally neglectful alcoholics like my parents are with huge tempers or guilt trip us. Some parents are pretty perfect but it's rare.
Religion and culture also is a big part of it, sounds like you're Indian or something background? In that case I don't blame the woman for being cautious. And they have repressive roles in most cultures, but in the west its usually neglectful work alcoholic mothers who turn blind eyes to too many things, so in a way I envy people with mothers who care. Sadly your mum was probably a victim too that's why she ended up with a creep, maybe she knew deep down but didn't know how to get out or maybe divorce was against her religion, you should tell her the truth and maybe you'll be able to heal. Just get drunk and tell her lol. Shes probably really old by now so tell her while you can.
Patricia's mom was so creepily obsessed with her daughter's virginity, yet completely oblivious to the abuse she suffered. Honestly I feel like if the mom found out about he abuse she would have blamed Patricia for "leading him on."
I reckon she somehow found out, felt too guilty to do anything about it, moved her far enough away to get away from their "good family friend" and got super protective about any semblance of sexualisation, all trying to convince herself that she was still a good mum
Although the situations were very different- My mother told me when she was younger, she walked in on her dad straight up raping her older sister. My aunt & mom went to their mother to try to get help, gma told them not to say things like that and that was it. My mom said she felt like gma knew what was happening even before they told her, but with 13 children and no experience in the work force, gma was essentially 'trapped' and couldn't do anything. Bloody disgusting all around. Point is, I can't help but guess that maybe this one's mother was in the same boat?
@@FaQBuddEh That kinda thing can go for generations. I have a friend who has been molested by her great uncle as a child and then actually moved on to actually prostitution with him and some of his "church brothers". Turns out that her great uncle had started this kinda sick s#it on her grandmother, her mother and aunts. Two of the aunts his own daughters.
I agree and she was nuts. My niece and nephew love going to the library right by my house. I love it lol I can see who comes and goes from my front window and......IT IS A LIBRARY. Where better would you want kids lol
She was probably molested. That is often the reason for extra concern. Also, her brother was the ass the molested Patricia so there was obvious sexual abuse in the family.
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@@luvmibratt naw, what Gyspy Rose did was evil, but if she’d had a younger sibling and allowed them to be murdered as well, I’d say she’s even more evil than letting just her crazy mom get taken out. I do agree that there are levels to evil. I’m certainly not “evil”, but I know that I’m capable of defending myself at all costs. Some might call that evil, and I’d be okay with that. I’m not Jeffrey Dahmer evil, and he’s not Ted Bundy evil.
it's absolutely heart breaking how easy kids are to groom and assault and how deeply it impacts them decades into adulthood. I have had multiple close friends who were victims and every single one of them had serious trauma and boundary breakdown.
That was the real tragedy here. Her parents sounded pretty warped, and I don’t think it’s likely that they were completely unaware of the abuse she experienced. But there was no reason the poor kid brother had to be a victim too.
@@derp195 the fact that her dad assaulted Frank and went to jail for it, and the fact that Patty knew Frank would be dead if her dad found out about their lurid affair tells me that maybe he didn’t know about the abuse. My dad was fucked up and beat my mom in front of us, even allowed my younger siblings’ mom to abuse me for years, but let me tell you… I knew that if anyone tried me in THAT way, they’d be dead.
@@derp195 we should also be mindful of the era that this took place. We are looking at the folks with modern eyes, not those of that era. Their behaviour wasn't particularly unusual for that period
Her brother Mike and I used to ride dirt bikes together but I never hung out at the house. I did see DeLuca and Patty at the Walgreens when my friends and I would read the magazines. DeLuca would always kick us out of the store. A sad story
I knew this story, but I had no idea about uncle Gus, and her terrible mother. I actually understand her better now. Frank DeLuca was just another uncle Gus.
@@SetTheWild they all had a hand in it. Even the ones who did after she had the initial idea. That sense of being something to be used was only further embedded by their twisted mindset
Patty’s actions were definitely a result of the childhood sexual abuse she went through, her mother’s paranoia, and Frank’s power over her (he should have stopped that relationship before it started and especially after he found out she was 17). Does it excuse what she did? No, but it does give us insight into what we can do to try and avoid things like this happening in the future
It certainly had a bad effect on her, but you can’t say absolutely it wasn’t other factors. Many young women suffer the same kind of abuse but don’t kill anyone, in fact they go on to create good lives for themselves. Some people are born with strength, hard to say.to kill your family so viciously suggests something off about her character to start with, and combined with the abuse issue, bad result.
@@rashone2879 we cannot play this "other people are abused and don't kill" game. We are each unique beings with our own history. No two pieces of glass break the same, no two pieces of paper crumble the same, no two bricks break the same, no two people respond the same to trauma. So please stop the comparing. It does nothing but perpetuate invalid thought processes.
First off I love your profile name LOL!! Second you are exactly right!! I know of two people that were both touched inappropriately when they were young by the same person and being close in age they both remember it happening but one person grew up to be strong, kind and one to help others on a daily basis whereas the other person started acting out in highschool and went on to become abusive to everyone around them and seen the inside of a cop car and jail cell way too many times. Both people were raised by the same parents but turned out so very different.
@@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon If we can't play the "other people are abused and don't kill" game then we also can't play the "abuse caused her to kill" game, either.
Wasn’t expecting “happy as a pig in shit” I’ve got ipods in and it’s really quiet and I busted out HA! And made others around me jump. Lol spent the next few minutes apologizing not to mention my embarrassment (which doesn’t happen often) but SO worth it! Your videos are great man
Wanted to add that if this was my daughter and I found out that a 40yr old sleeze bag was having sex with my high school aged daughter it would have been a sight worse. And her having him put in jail for trying to protect her?! Come on..I’d like to say I would have raised her better than to even get caught up with a dirt bag but sometimes that has nothing to do with it. Just a jacked up situation all together….
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I am Patty's age and lived about 90 min away when this occurred. By the time she found out Frank was married he was already giving her prescription drugs. Lots of Valium, sleeping pills and coke. Also, she truly loved her little brother and was furious when Mike came to spend a weekend with them and Frank gave him sleeping pills so Patty could "entertain" some adult men. There was also chatter that Frank was prostituting her and they sold drugs. I remember thinking that from a small age she was never given the opportunity to say no. She just learned how to live with "yes", until she didn't care anymore.
@susan pitcher I think her mother was seriously at fault, ignored the regular trips with Uncle Gus, but saw sexualised behaviour in her very young daughter. The paranoid distrust of Patty in library and pool with kids her own age, means that she blamed Patty for something serious, and was terrified that she would get pregnant, complete disgrace for the family. Gus, the candy man --- no way on earth was Patty the only victim, and there were surely rumours within the family, all hidden.
Just wow, everyone wants to blame anyone except poor Patty!! Wonder who's idea it was to pull down her mom's panty's? Says here Frank shot them, she did All the rest!! She is not a good person, I have been locked up with her not nice, un approachable. Most murder's are not. She enjoys the attention from men obviously from the huge prostitution ring, orgy's in Dwight...
Thank you for all the work you do, to share these stories with us. It’s appreciated. So is your excellent storytelling, with the right amount of derision for the people who need it in the story.
Really sad case... Can't help but wonder if Patty had never been exposed to Gus, hadn't met DeLuca, if she would have turned out differently. Who knows. There are plenty of people who have been through extreme trauma who don't murder their families. What a shame. I hope DeLuca's wife and kids got through everything alright...
Well marilyn deluce allowed patty to babysit, stay in their home, and while she in the pool with kiss, frank and patty were in the house knoodleing in the house.
I guess her parents should have pressed charges against Frank as soon as they found out he was with their daughter. I couldn't imagine pressing charges on my own father.
I wait for it now. You've created a monster. You can't quit. You've made a must see show. Good job. I hope you're getting paid! No need to be modest. Solid integrity in library building. Polished graphics shows the development of finesse over the seasons. But not too drastic nor off the cuff. Thanks for telling us stories.
Well yeah, her dad violently attacked her boyfriend with a gun in front of her. I mean, no matter how gross and depraved the bf Frank was, he wasn’t beating Patti or physically threatening anyone so the father Frank had no right or excuse to brutally attack him like that. Patti wasn’t in the wrong for pressing charges over the violence. Again, no defense for bf Frank, he was a garbage person.
I'd say her childhood trauma turned her into the monster she is. She obviously blamed her parents for the nasty "uncle" molesting her. She wanted them to rescue her but they didn't. The fact that she didn't think her mom would believe her is so sad. She was resentful of her brother because he had the carefree childhood that she wanted and probably felt like her parents loved him more. It's really sad.
Sheesh, I’m only 18 minutes in and wow, what a total mess. I’m feeling more and more anxious as this story unfolds. A fantastically written video essay, thanks 🙂🐿❤️🌈
You do these so well. Fantastic story telling (and I love that you cuss a little). You should do one on Grate, if you haven't already. It's a fascinating story
I love the attention to detail you put into this case. Patricia Columbo was my first case study in my psychology class regarding the psychology of crime & delinquency and there were facts you mentioned that I hadn’t heard about! Very well researched. Not to mention that this case is hardly mentioned or spoken of. I’ve only seen her case observed or showcased a couple of times on crime series’. PS. Hope you’re feeling better 🤒🤧😴
There is a comment by a susan pitcher, looks like 3 hours ago, above your comment a bit, (at least that's how it comes up on my phone) she put in some really good added detail that I've never heard before as well. I hope it's something you've not heard either. This one would surly you put your studies in psychology to the test. What conclusion did you come to after? The innocence of childhood being ripped away by a trusted family friend must have been incomprehensible to her.
I really enjoy the professional way in which you tell the story, especially the chronological manner. Some channels are all over the place with the telling of the cases. 👍
I hope your feeling better. Thank you for working on this case, great 👍. This story is really horrific and as much as I wanted to feel sorry for Patty with the abuse she suffered at such a young age by her sicko uncle but as the her story unfolded deeper I became less and less empathetic, also alittle shocking at the end of your seg to see how much she had aged, Deluca too. Another well covered crime story by you and I’m so glad your back, you were missed.
It would be understandable if the uncle had got the knife but her parents didn't know what had happened and had done what they could in her interest. Ultimately she holds responsibility for her actions.
I'm sorry but it is perfectly normal to smile, laugh and even joke with friends and family outside of the funeral home when a loved one dies, but then cry your eyes out when you're inside looking at their dead body, and during the funeral. I have been to at least 50 funerals in my life (I have a MASSIVE family), and I've witnessed it myself at literally every single one. It's perfectly normal and should not ever be a reason to suspect one of foul play.
It feels quite unrealistic to lose your family member, to accept someone you’ve known for your entire life is forever gone. Hail of emotion comes as time goes by, at least for me it was.
Quite ironic that Patti's mom was obsessed with her meeting boys when the actual issue was someone she trusted Patti with. Patti didn't have a chance of a normal childhood, in extension a normal life. Sad case.
Thanks for the upload !!! My birthday just hit at midnight and I’m now laying in bed drunk and this is the perfect present to listen to and end the morning lol 😋🥳🎉💕♍️
I was waiting for this one but am saving it for later. Patty was my babysitter when I was a kid. She lived three doors down from my Aunt and Uncle. My cousin was in the same class as Mikey. People thought it was a Manson type thing. It was scarier to find out it was their daughter. And we knew her.
Something else I find crazy and that should be punishable with jail time in a lot of these cases is how there will be people who know ahead of time and never tell the police.. I mean they technically weren’t involved but there was at the least 4 people in this case who knew exactly what they were planning and going to do to her family and STILL didn’t tell the police until afterwards when it’s too late.. it’s just crazy this may have been prevented if they would have told authorities what she was planning
Another excellent story Jiles! Glad you are feeling better. Your voice sounds heaps better! Thank you for busting out these stories whether sick or not! You're the best murder channel here! Many blessings sent from Texas 🎀
I never got the notification for this, but thanks for putting it out, man. I love your content. You, and This Chapter are the best True Crime channels on UA-cam, and it would be cool if the algorithm would allow you more exposure and more ad revenue. I pray that you and your family get to live all of your dreams, and that the stories of these people continue coming out. Thank you for everything, Giles. You're awesome!
True story---When I was growing up, my neighbors had a daughter named Samantha, a dog named Sam & a son named Samual. Pretty sure they had stock in the name Sam.....🤔📈💰
I have a distance cousin called Louis, he married a woman, called Louis. They had a son and called him, you guessed it, Louis. Then they had a daughter and called her, yes they did, Louise. Louis Sn's mother, my Auntie Anna used to call them with different pitches to her voice. Truth. It always amused me as a kid. Louis, Louis, Louis and Louise.
As soon as you mentioned about the whole family killed except for the one daughter, somehow I figured that she and her love interest had to be involved.
Welcome back, Jiles! I hope you feel a great deal better! I've heard this case many times before. Nevertheless, your account is by far my favourite. You have a way of using words that helps the listener feel empathy for the victims, as if we were connected in far more ways than hearing about the experience they had. Thank you for delivering another outstanding case. Your content is unparalleled! I'm always eager for the next download. Much love to all ❣️ Cheers ✌️💙✨
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i'm so happy i have found your channel. i appreciate the fact you always go straight to the point without rambling in a circle. perfect colour of the voice for storytelling, too. best of luck from celje~
It really bothers me that innocent children get abused sexually or otherwise and end up committing crimes that in turn puts them in jail for the rest of their lives. It's so sad that these kids never had a chance to have a normal life. :(
Do you know really bothers me is that when you’re young and something so cruel happens to you that you think it’s a good idea to do the same thing to someone else
Great video bro, me and girlfriend were waiting for new video to come out that felt like forever We never grow tired of hearing you talk about monsters
@@vorynrosethorn903 actually probably untrue there's plenty of evidence to show that traumatic abuse in early stages of child development can essentially cause brain damage to these kids... Making a more susceptible to lives like Patty
Her abuse primed her to be exploited by that disgusting man Frank. I feel so sorry for her. She'd never have done what she did if not for that predator.
It's very hard to see this girl as a monster after the abuse she suffered for years surely that will mess your head up. I've said before I run support groups and I've witnessed perfectly good people commit the worst crimes that have been abused by there parents or a family member.
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Man thanks for the new upload bro even though you still sound pretty sick I really appreciate waking up to hearing monsters I hope you feel 100% soon bro thanks
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This is the second time I've heard this story The first time it was from the parents perspective This was more from Patty's perspective Even though the details were the same it made for two very different stories Both great video though
I dont get why when a inmate has done nothing but be defiant, unruly, aggressive while in prison, why give them the opportunity to even get out? If they do something so bad that it causes them to lose their right to walk amongst normal, hard working tax payers, then why give the a chance to do it again or worst? Also this whole 20 years plus sitting back with free room, free food, just passing time till they get the DP? Nope, especially when it comes to the parents killing their child/children, 5 years tops then they get the DP. Its disgusting that a animal will go and do everything it can to protect their babies and here there are some monsters that will kill their child to get back at a ex for having a new gf. This is the world we are leaving the next generation, sad just sad
Mostly because if someone serves their sentence then they're free to go and that's the deal. It isn't always great, but I prefer that to the government being able to just lock up whoever it likes forever with no due process.
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Its crazy that her mother was so concerned about her but never noticed that she was being victimized.
Really terrible that she felt her mother wouldn't believe her. Very painful feeling and I wonder what her mother could have done that made her feel like that. She constantly accused her of seeing boys as a teen but earlier in her childhood probably made her feel unimportant.
I so agree.
I wonder if the mother sensed something was off but failed in communication/listening to get the grip of it as it was.
I kind of wonder if Patty was off in a way that could bevisible to others. Intellectually she faired ok in school yet still she was approached by Frank in a way and her own behaviour seems like that of somebody with an intellectual glitch.
Looking for a killer and meeting up with a guy who are to help with another to get a job with lawenforcement?
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 I wouldn't be surprised if that mom was off too.
@@MrsDetroit622 She could of course be an introvert and enjoying reading at an early adolescence when her agegroyp typically socialize a lot with eachother but there could have been an element of finding the library as a sort of safe withdrawal zone. There are other people there but still a norm/culture of not bothering others.
Mom didn't want her at the library to keep her away from perverts, so the mom sent her daughter _to_ a pervert. That is tragically ironic
@BOB K It doesn't seem so black and white, her mum may have made a mistake, but it looks like she cared.. Easy to judge in hindsight
she had no way of knowing Gus was a pervert
@@liam2386 she had no way of knowing there were perverts at the library either.
What point are you trying to make
I think the really heartbreaking thing about this case is that Patricia spent practically all her life around adults who only saw her as a s*x object to either be protected or exploited, and I can't help but think that played a serious role in how things turned out.
i totally agree
You are making it seem like her mother caused her to do this, that is bullshit and a slap in the face to the victims including her brother who was only 13 years old at the time. People always forgets about the victims, she is right where she belongs in jail.
@desireeboone3631 where in her comment did she say that? I think your projecting a little. Chill. I'm sure she agrees.
@@desireeboone3631wtf? Lol!
Who hurt you?
I just get sick of hearing the lame excuses people use to almost justify murder. To place the blame on her mother is disgusting. Patty chose to murder so let her ass rot in prison
Okay, I commented before watching it and now I’m back. Patty was my babysitter when I was young. She stopped when she started working at Walgreen’s. Her brother and my cousin were classmates and friends. They lived about 3 houses apart from each other. The family were known “eccentric” and some people did think there were mob ties. They were also obsessed with their poodle, who’s name escapes me.
After the murders, no one suspected Patty. They thought it was random hippies. Neighbors believed they got in using a garage door opener because back then they were all the same frequency. People disconnected their garage doors.
When it turned out to be Patty it was shocking. It still is. There are a few things left out here but also, a lot I didn’t know.
My cousin can’t be in the room when this is discussed. I wonder what he would think. I’m not going to bring it up though.
As always, this is really well done. I seldom comment but I’m a big fan.
@Nikki That was her younger brothers name.
If you don't mind me asking, from you can recall, what was Patty like as a person in your family's interactions with her? Was there anything particularly "off" about Patty from what you can remember?
@@joshmay7921 She was probably about 8-10 years older than I which is a lot growing up. She wasn’t particularly fun as a babysitter. Kind of bratty. I heard later there was a lot of sibling rivalry but only on her part. The family kind of kept to themselves but her brother was very nice. I remember my Aunt saying she saw her at Walgreen’s and that she had tons of makeup on a looked really “loose” in my Aunt’s term.
@Nikki Uchiha I completely missed that! I’ll have to ask my sister. She’s older than I am. I’m sure she’d remember that. It’s weird.
@@sbalsamo410
1.Did it seem like she took up babysitting as a begrudging obligation from her family?
2.Yeah, I read many accounts that Patty had a very two faced relationship with her brother. On one hand, I recall that she doted on Mike and showered him with free food from her job, but was also extremely jealous of him and believed that he diverted their parents’ attention away from her. If I’m remembering the details correctly, I think this manifested in Patty initially insisting that Micheal being spared, but decided on killing him herself after DeLuca convinced her otherwise.
3.Did you hear that DeLuca passed away a few days ago?
I think through the vast majority of these killing stories, we can conclude that children being sexualized and/or molested at a young age causes some serious problems and we should really be focusing more attention on protecting children from adults who would harm children in this way.
Yea but when you don’t know then there’s nothing you can do. We got to execute all pedifiles. No fixing them.
Problem is it's hard to tell. I mean my parents personally created a perfect shell where on the outside they looked like upstanding fine people and unless you were in my house would you know that they were abusive. I heard "but your parents were so (enter compliment here)" a lot.
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Definitely !!!!
Her mother was concerned that she was meeting up with boys. Meanwhile she was being molested and raped by their family friend. Just evil and sad
I hate how much I related to this one. My adoptive mom accused me of everything under the sun….yet it was her husband molesting me for near a decade but I had already been conditioned by her to believe I was the deviant attracting men. These women are obsessed with purity yet encourage the abuse they fear with their own actions and accusations sadly.
Bless you forever!!!
So so sorry for everything you had to go through. No child should have to live a life like that.
May God ease your sufferings and protect all the innocent children wherever they are. This life is a test. Some people will pass but some will fail. Let's ask Him to never test us beyond our limits! Ameen
Its usually because that mother was abused herself. So they become paranoid and control freaks. Your mother might have been abused or know someone who was. Likewise it can go in the reverse where the mother doesn't care and even let's people abuse her kids, which is more common. Parents honestly usually try their best... but most are messed up, either alcoholics or weed addicts or control strict freaks or overly emotionally invested and suffocate their kids, or are totally neglectful alcoholics like my parents are with huge tempers or guilt trip us. Some parents are pretty perfect but it's rare.
Religion and culture also is a big part of it, sounds like you're Indian or something background? In that case I don't blame the woman for being cautious. And they have repressive roles in most cultures, but in the west its usually neglectful work alcoholic mothers who turn blind eyes to too many things, so in a way I envy people with mothers who care. Sadly your mum was probably a victim too that's why she ended up with a creep, maybe she knew deep down but didn't know how to get out or maybe divorce was against her religion, you should tell her the truth and maybe you'll be able to heal. Just get drunk and tell her lol. Shes probably really old by now so tell her while you can.
Patricia's mom was so creepily obsessed with her daughter's virginity, yet completely oblivious to the abuse she suffered. Honestly I feel like if the mom found out about he abuse she would have blamed Patricia for "leading him on."
🗣️ you nailed it!
I reckon she somehow found out, felt too guilty to do anything about it, moved her far enough away to get away from their "good family friend" and got super protective about any semblance of sexualisation, all trying to convince herself that she was still a good mum
Although the situations were very different-
My mother told me when she was younger, she walked in on her dad straight up raping her older sister.
My aunt & mom went to their mother to try to get help, gma told them not to say things like that and that was it.
My mom said she felt like gma knew what was happening even before they told her, but with 13 children and no experience in the work force, gma was essentially 'trapped' and couldn't do anything.
Bloody disgusting all around.
Point is, I can't help but guess that maybe this one's mother was in the same boat?
@@FaQBuddEh That kinda thing can go for generations. I have a friend who has been molested by her great uncle as a child and then actually moved on to actually prostitution with him and some of his "church brothers". Turns out that her great uncle had started this kinda sick s#it on her grandmother, her mother and aunts. Two of the aunts his own daughters.
I agree and she was nuts. My niece and nephew love going to the library right by my house. I love it lol I can see who comes and goes from my front window and......IT IS A LIBRARY. Where better would you want kids lol
Makes me wonder what Patty's mother was like as a teenager with all her concern about "boys" 🤔
She was probably molested. That is often the reason for extra concern. Also, her brother was the ass the molested Patricia so there was obvious sexual abuse in the family.
You're actually one of my favorite true crime people. My favorite is your monotone voice but occasionally you'll call someone a real ugly name or talk about how evil and mean they are. It just doesn't fit with the voice and it cracks me up every time. That little bit of humor that you put in these stories is what helps some of us get through them. I love true crime, but I'm kind of sensitive. So that little bit of humor really snaps me out of it, and allows me to enjoy your videos to the fullest. Thank you for the content you're truly a master of your craft.
Do you enjoy more detailed and in depth content? If so, there is Stephanie Harlowe, she's deep & brilliant. She also has another channel with an ex Detective named Derrick Lavasseur (sp?) Their channel is called Crime Weekly. Those 2 are up there with This is Monsters. Those 3 are my tops and before I forget, I enjoy That Chapter for Crime and a bit of Irish humour too. I'm always happy when Mondays roll around for this gentleman. If you have any suggestions, I'm all ears. Cheers 💙
@@Julia-uh4li yeah, I listen to all them I just find that monsters is one of the most brutally honest.
I'd hardly call him monotone but ok
@@NiecieSavo okay, you're right. I never argue with anybody. It literally just darkens your soul. So I'll just agree with you. 🤣🤣🤣
Dave's Lemonade, JustThoughtLounge, and Everytown are in my top 5.
Even if you hate your parents, also murdering your sibling(s) make you double evil - a true monster!
If your evil your evil no such thing as double evil,js.
@@luvmibratt naw, what Gyspy Rose did was evil, but if she’d had a younger sibling and allowed them to be murdered as well, I’d say she’s even more evil than letting just her crazy mom get taken out. I do agree that there are levels to evil. I’m certainly not “evil”, but I know that I’m capable of defending myself at all costs. Some might call that evil, and I’d be okay with that. I’m not Jeffrey Dahmer evil, and he’s not Ted Bundy evil.
@@ccisthesekxs but he is, he did the same thing just not as many people died…
@@ccisthesekxs if you add water to an ocean it's still an ocean
Worse yet, they did it on Star Wars Day.
Uncle Gus that delivers candy?!?! That was always ending badly.
it's absolutely heart breaking how easy kids are to groom and assault and how deeply it impacts them decades into adulthood. I have had multiple close friends who were victims and every single one of them had serious trauma and boundary breakdown.
Yeah just look at how democrats groom our kids!
This was so sad and the murder of the little 13 year old brother was awful. 😿
That was the real tragedy here. Her parents sounded pretty warped, and I don’t think it’s likely that they were completely unaware of the abuse she experienced.
But there was no reason the poor kid brother had to be a victim too.
@@derp195 the fact that her dad assaulted Frank and went to jail for it, and the fact that Patty knew Frank would be dead if her dad found out about their lurid affair tells me that maybe he didn’t know about the abuse. My dad was fucked up and beat my mom in front of us, even allowed my younger siblings’ mom to abuse me for years, but let me tell you… I knew that if anyone tried me in THAT way, they’d be dead.
@@derp195 we should also be mindful of the era that this took place. We are looking at the folks with modern eyes, not those of that era. Their behaviour wasn't particularly unusual for that period
Her brother Mike and I used to ride dirt bikes together but I never hung out at the house. I did see DeLuca and Patty at the Walgreens when my friends and I would read the magazines. DeLuca would always kick us out of the store. A sad story
Hope you're feeling better man. Thanks for putting this out.
I knew this story, but I had no idea about uncle Gus, and her terrible mother. I actually understand her better now.
Frank DeLuca was just another uncle Gus.
A lot of men victimized this girl for scx. It certainly contributed to her frame of mind
@@SetTheWild they all had a hand in it. Even the ones who did after she had the initial idea. That sense of being something to be used was only further embedded by their twisted mindset
Patty’s actions were definitely a result of the childhood sexual abuse she went through, her mother’s paranoia, and Frank’s power over her (he should have stopped that relationship before it started and especially after he found out she was 17). Does it excuse what she did? No, but it does give us insight into what we can do to try and avoid things like this happening in the future
It certainly had a bad effect on her, but you can’t say absolutely it wasn’t other factors. Many young women suffer the same kind of abuse but don’t kill anyone, in fact they go on to create good lives for themselves. Some people are born with strength, hard to say.to kill your family so viciously suggests something off about her character to start with, and combined with the abuse issue, bad result.
@@rashone2879 we cannot play this "other people are abused and don't kill" game. We are each unique beings with our own history. No two pieces of glass break the same, no two pieces of paper crumble the same, no two bricks break the same, no two people respond the same to trauma. So please stop the comparing. It does nothing but perpetuate invalid thought processes.
@@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon exactly!
First off I love your profile name LOL!! Second you are exactly right!! I know of two people that were both touched inappropriately when they were young by the same person and being close in age they both remember it happening but one person grew up to be strong, kind and one to help others on a daily basis whereas the other person started acting out in highschool and went on to become abusive to everyone around them and seen the inside of a cop car and jail cell way too many times. Both people were raised by the same parents but turned out so very different.
@@iknitbecuzmurderisfrownedupon If we can't play the "other people are abused and don't kill" game then we also can't play the "abuse caused her to kill" game, either.
Wasn’t expecting “happy as a pig in shit” I’ve got ipods in and it’s really quiet and I busted out HA! And made others around me jump. Lol spent the next few minutes apologizing not to mention my embarrassment (which doesn’t happen often) but SO worth it! Your videos are great man
Wanted to add that if this was my daughter and I found out that a 40yr old sleeze bag was having sex with my high school aged daughter it would have been a sight worse. And her having him put in jail for trying to protect her?! Come on..I’d like to say I would have raised her better than to even get caught up with a dirt bag but sometimes that has nothing to do with it. Just a jacked up situation all together….
Yes, that happy as a pig quote made me lol, more so that YT blanked out the word 'shit'!
I know I loved that expression popping out like that, I've only ever heard that here in Australia🇦🇺😁❤
Jiles, your statement "He was happy as a pig in shit" was hilarious 😂😆😭🤣
The younger brother was completely innocent in this! Poor kid.
Thank you for always mentioning the National DV Hotline at the end of your videos. As a survivor, it means so much to know that you are making a difference in countless lives by doing so 💚.
"Time kept passing and her parents weren't getting any deader"---🤣
This is crazy! I literally was just talking to my husband about 20 mins ago n I said I hope that one of my favorite channels uploads the uploads come at thee best time randomly in the middle of the night. I just saw my notifications and u posted 🙌🏼 🙌🏼 ur truly amazing for what u do , and I think it is absolutely amazing that you offer the support that you do at the end of each of your videos. I actually gave that number for the domestic violence to one of my friends currently thank you for all your hard work again on all these cases. My favorite line ever !
“ THIS IS MONSTERS “
This channel and the dreading are the best in this genre.
I have to say that Mike from That Chapter is the best.
@K, U aren’t a KILLA 100%
@K, U aren’t a KILLA yeah, but u love us anyway 😉
My favorite line with this channel is when every few episodes he says..." Gtfoh" , usually for the random Buffoonery that the Monsters do when trying to explain away their crimes.🤣🤣 It's a great channel.
The "grooming" her uncle offended her with when she was only a little girl is a relevant factor in her behavior. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Which behaviour? Finding a hitman to murder her parents? Really??
Lots of abused people dont murder their family.
I am Patty's age and lived about 90 min away when this occurred. By the time she found out Frank was married he was already giving her prescription drugs. Lots of Valium, sleeping pills and coke. Also, she truly loved her little brother and was furious when Mike came to spend a weekend with them and Frank gave him sleeping pills so Patty could "entertain" some adult men. There was also chatter that Frank was prostituting her and they sold drugs. I remember thinking that from a small age she was never given the opportunity to say no. She just learned how to live with "yes", until she didn't care anymore.
I agree, she really never had a chance, did she?
@susan pitcher I think her mother was seriously at fault, ignored the regular trips with Uncle Gus, but saw sexualised behaviour in her very young daughter. The paranoid distrust of Patty in library and pool with kids her own age, means that she blamed Patty for something serious, and was terrified that she would get pregnant, complete disgrace for the family.
Gus, the candy man --- no way on earth was Patty the only victim, and there were surely rumours within the family, all hidden.
Somehow that just doesn't surprise me.
Just wow, everyone wants to blame anyone except poor Patty!! Wonder who's idea it was to pull down her mom's panty's? Says here Frank shot them, she did All the rest!! She is not a good person, I have been locked up with her not nice, un approachable. Most murder's are not. She enjoys the attention from men obviously from the huge prostitution ring, orgy's in Dwight...
@@LittleMissLoungelol sure not her fault😂
Thank you for all the work you do, to share these stories with us. It’s appreciated. So is your excellent storytelling, with the right amount of derision for the people who need it in the story.
Really sad case... Can't help but wonder if Patty had never been exposed to Gus, hadn't met DeLuca, if she would have turned out differently. Who knows. There are plenty of people who have been through extreme trauma who don't murder their families. What a shame. I hope DeLuca's wife and kids got through everything alright...
Well marilyn deluce allowed patty to babysit, stay in their home, and while she in the pool with kiss, frank and patty were in the house knoodleing in the house.
I guess her parents should have pressed charges against Frank as soon as they found out he was with their daughter. I couldn't imagine pressing charges on my own father.
I wait for it now. You've created a monster. You can't quit. You've made a must see show. Good job. I hope you're getting paid! No need to be modest. Solid integrity in library building. Polished graphics shows the development of finesse over the seasons. But not too drastic nor off the cuff. Thanks for telling us stories.
Patty had the AUDACITY to press charges against her father 🤦🏾♀️🙄🤬😡
Well yeah, her dad violently attacked her boyfriend with a gun in front of her. I mean, no matter how gross and depraved the bf Frank was, he wasn’t beating Patti or physically threatening anyone so the father Frank had no right or excuse to brutally attack him like that. Patti wasn’t in the wrong for pressing charges over the violence. Again, no defense for bf Frank, he was a garbage person.
@@user-pd7cr1kf6ihe was a grown ass man sleeping with someone 20 years younger , ofc the father was pissed
@@mariamonroe1974 Of course, and he had every right to be. But we can't just violently attack every horrible person in our lives.
Ah, I am amongst my people. Fellow true crime enthusiasts and night owls. I appreciate the late night drop
Hope you’re feeling better by now :) thanks for the frequent uploading, I enjoy your show very much
I love it when judges give out sentences that are like a thousand years long
It's one of my favourite things about US legal system. Why bother saying 193736 years dammit just say life 😂
I'd say her childhood trauma turned her into the monster she is. She obviously blamed her parents for the nasty "uncle" molesting her. She wanted them to rescue her but they didn't. The fact that she didn't think her mom would believe her is so sad. She was resentful of her brother because he had the carefree childhood that she wanted and probably felt like her parents loved him more. It's really sad.
Sheesh, I’m only 18 minutes in and wow, what a total mess. I’m feeling more and more anxious as this story unfolds.
A fantastically written video essay, thanks 🙂🐿❤️🌈
Yes I felt the same way. I had 2 keep telling myself 2 breath @ the end of the story! WTH?!!
I’m pleased you’ve covered this story. I read about it years ago it’s devastating.
Glad you are doing better, appreciate the work. Great job as always, never heard of this case.
You do these so well. Fantastic story telling (and I love that you cuss a little). You should do one on Grate, if you haven't already. It's a fascinating story
What's the full name please?
@@Julia-uh4li Shawn Grate there's a 911 call and integration to the story
Heard of this case many times, but never heard so much new details presented in this case. Fantastic story telling.
perfect timing for me to fall asleep to another one of your videos! thank you
I love the attention to detail you put into this case. Patricia Columbo was my first case study in my psychology class regarding the psychology of crime & delinquency and there were facts you mentioned that I hadn’t heard about! Very well researched. Not to mention that this case is hardly mentioned or spoken of. I’ve only seen her case observed or showcased a couple of times on crime series’.
PS. Hope you’re feeling better 🤒🤧😴
There is a comment by a susan pitcher, looks like 3 hours ago, above your comment a bit, (at least that's how it comes up on my phone) she put in some really good added detail that I've never heard before as well. I hope it's something you've not heard either. This one would surly you put your studies in psychology to the test. What conclusion did you come to after? The innocence of childhood being ripped away by a trusted family friend must have been incomprehensible to her.
happy to hear you are feeling better! all love and we thank you for the hard work!!!
How did you know we were up at this hour waiting lol you shouldn’t have.. no no.. you should have. Thanks! 💯
What a nice surprise!! Hope you are feeling 100% thanks for the amazing content.
Thanks for the new release.
Always a treat to listen to.
I really enjoy the professional way in which you tell the story, especially the chronological manner. Some channels are all over the place with the telling of the cases. 👍
I hope your feeling better. Thank you for working on this case, great 👍. This story is really horrific and as much as I wanted to feel sorry for Patty with the abuse she suffered at such a young age by her sicko uncle but as the her story unfolded deeper I became less and less empathetic, also alittle shocking at the end of your seg to see how much she had aged, Deluca too. Another well covered crime story by you and I’m so glad your back, you were missed.
Shocked to see how much she's aged??! She's been in Dwight since 1976!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Seriously, not like they have access to hair dye and etc there LOL.
@@jaxxiet5851 You'd be amazed. Still, I was in there with Trish twice & she's pretty much batshit crazy. She was on M.H.U. often. An o.g. J-cat 😂.
Patty never had a chance. Uncle Gus started it and Frank Deluca finished it.
It would be understandable if the uncle had got the knife but her parents didn't know what had happened and had done what they could in her interest.
Ultimately she holds responsibility for her actions.
Bs i wonder if patty wasn't giving it all that time 🙄
@@n.b.l.5709pervert
I'm sorry but it is perfectly normal to smile, laugh and even joke with friends and family outside of the funeral home when a loved one dies, but then cry your eyes out when you're inside looking at their dead body, and during the funeral. I have been to at least 50 funerals in my life (I have a MASSIVE family), and I've witnessed it myself at literally every single one. It's perfectly normal and should not ever be a reason to suspect one of foul play.
Agree💯 Also every1 handles loved ones passing differently...
Tell these misogynists! 🙌🏻🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🇮🇱
It feels quite unrealistic to lose your family member, to accept someone you’ve known for your entire life is forever gone. Hail of emotion comes as time goes by, at least for me it was.
I laugh at funerals sometimes and cry. Usually reminiscing.
@@jackchop1576 🇮🇱💩
Quite ironic that Patti's mom was obsessed with her meeting boys when the actual issue was someone she trusted Patti with. Patti didn't have a chance of a normal childhood, in extension a normal life. Sad case.
Thanks for the upload !!! My birthday just hit at midnight and I’m now laying in bed drunk and this is the perfect present to listen to and end the morning lol 😋🥳🎉💕♍️
@Vee Doll 🎉Happy Birthday!🎊
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Happy birthday 🎂🎉 you awesome Virgo you ♍
I love that you added all that extra information at the end for people who may need help. Well done!
Thanks for the episode guys! Just what I needed.
I was waiting for this one but am saving it for later. Patty was my babysitter when I was a kid. She lived three doors down from my Aunt and Uncle. My cousin was in the same class as Mikey. People thought it was a Manson type thing. It was scarier to find out it was their daughter. And we knew her.
Something else I find crazy and that should be punishable with jail time in a lot of these cases is how there will be people who know ahead of time and never tell the police.. I mean they technically weren’t involved but there was at the least 4 people in this case who knew exactly what they were planning and going to do to her family and STILL didn’t tell the police until afterwards when it’s too late.. it’s just crazy this may have been prevented if they would have told authorities what she was planning
Another excellent story Jiles! Glad you are feeling better. Your voice sounds heaps better! Thank you for busting out these stories whether sick or not! You're the best murder channel here! Many blessings sent from Texas 🎀
I had a car like that. You could fit about six people on the hood and look at the stars no dents when you got up!😄
Can't wait until you hit 1 million subs, thanks for another great video
Hi Monster Man. Absolutely superb job, as per usual. I think you're my favourite YT channel ever. 💕
I love the way you tell a story. One of my favorite channels. So compassionate. Keep up the excellent work 💖
Thank you for another great episode!
Thank you Jiles!! I hope your feeling better 🥰🤘
I never got the notification for this, but thanks for putting it out, man. I love your content. You, and This Chapter are the best True Crime channels on UA-cam, and it would be cool if the algorithm would allow you more exposure and more ad revenue. I pray that you and your family get to live all of your dreams, and that the stories of these people continue coming out. Thank you for everything, Giles. You're awesome!
True story---When I was growing up, my neighbors had a daughter named Samantha, a dog named Sam & a son named Samual. Pretty sure they had stock in the name Sam.....🤔📈💰
I have a distance cousin called Louis, he married a woman, called Louis. They had a son and called him, you guessed it, Louis. Then they had a daughter and called her, yes they did, Louise. Louis Sn's mother, my Auntie Anna used to call them with different pitches to her voice. Truth. It always amused me as a kid. Louis, Louis, Louis and Louise.
My Aunt and Uncles names are Salvador and Sara and their kids names are Salvador Jr and Saralyn lol
As soon as you mentioned about the whole family killed except for the one daughter, somehow I figured that she and her love interest had to be involved.
I thought at first she was kidnapped
Welcome back, Jiles! I hope you feel a great deal better! I've heard this case many times before. Nevertheless, your account is by far my favourite. You have a way of using words that helps the listener feel empathy for the victims, as if we were connected in far more ways than hearing about the experience they had. Thank you for delivering another outstanding case. Your content is unparalleled! I'm always eager for the next download.
Much love to all ❣️
Cheers ✌️💙✨
Let's hear it for the Early squad and the hard work our guy puts into his channel, never going for the easy route and always finding cases that we haven't always heard of. 👏👏👏 Wishing you all a Blessed day from Scotland. 🙏 🏴 ✌️
There’s a book about her called Love’s Blood and a 3-part podcast called Murdered Chicago
i'm so happy i have found your channel. i appreciate the fact you always go straight to the point without rambling in a circle. perfect colour of the voice for storytelling, too. best of luck from celje~
This 😈 was profiled on Deadly Women. Your videos are always more detailed. Thank you. I hope that you're feeling better.
Always a pleasure catching an early morning upload, haven't seen it yet but already know it will be a banger like always
It really bothers me that innocent children get abused sexually or otherwise and end up committing crimes that in turn puts them in jail for the rest of their lives. It's so sad that these kids never had a chance to have a normal life. :(
Do you know really bothers me is that when you’re young and something so cruel happens to you that you think it’s a good idea to do the same thing to someone else
Thank you for your content!! Have a great day and a wonderful week!!
3 am thank u for putting in work brother
I always enjoy your program, commentary and the detailed research. P.S. keep going.😉
The fact he thought 2 nights a week was enough for FIVE CHILDREN. Those poor kids.
I think in today's terms he would have claimed he suffered from 's.e.x addiction'
@@deecee9548 doubtful. At most he'd be called a pedophile.
Thanks for giving out the contact info for charities 🙏
Always great quality content! Hope you feel better soon!
Thanks so much!
Great video bro, me and girlfriend were waiting for new video to come out that felt like forever
We never grow tired of hearing you talk about monsters
I really enjoyed this. Glad your feeling well Monsters.
This is a channel I can hit the like button before I even hear it because it's always so good.
Always so impressed with you work and effort. Awesome job on this one! Thanks! 💕
This dude is my favorite human ! 🤌🏻
GLAD YOU ARE FEELING BETTER 🖤
This continues to be my favorite channel. Thank you for superb and consistent content. Thank for your hard work. You never fail to do your best. 😇
Imagine if Uncle Gus had left Patricia alone or Mary had let her daughter hang out in the library (and stay away from Uncle Gus).
She'd still likely have got that job, who knows if she would have been as much of a fool however.
@@vorynrosethorn903 actually probably untrue there's plenty of evidence to show that traumatic abuse in early stages of child development can essentially cause brain damage to these kids... Making a more susceptible to lives like Patty
She nughtve still been a loose goosey
I cant help but feel bad about Pat as a young girl, losing trust over every adults around her.
Her abuse primed her to be exploited by that disgusting man Frank. I feel so sorry for her. She'd never have done what she did if not for that predator.
❤❤ All women are heroes!! ❤❤
@@jackchop1576 They are until some horrible man corrupts them, anyway, leads them astray. They're pure but easily influenced.
@@WobblesandBean she was sexually promiscuous, nobody sleeps with multiple men without realising they are sleeping with multiple men
You should be feeling sorry for the dad
It's very hard to see this girl as a monster after the abuse she suffered for years surely that will mess your head up. I've said before I run support groups and I've witnessed perfectly good people commit the worst crimes that have been abused by there parents or a family member.
15 with a 40 year old? 🤢 🤮
Legal in some states is 16
Recently stumbled to your channel..❤ it!
going and watching all the older eps, not sure if my likes matter, but I am enthralled with your content! TY
and although you aren't going to do the 'Monters' as you have, I'll still be a fan!
Enjoy your binge watching them all!
Thanks so much!
Man thanks for the new upload bro even though you still sound pretty sick I really appreciate waking up to hearing monsters I hope you feel 100% soon bro thanks
I liked Peter Falk's portrayal of that detective.
Didn't know the real Mrs. Columbo is a real killer...
Ah, just one more thing...
I am a huge fan of this podcast. The stories are tragic horrifying, and leave you speechless, but I think they are important stories for people to hear. Please continue to make more. I’m a huge fan great job.💛💛💛
this channel needs more recignition always love the videos
Glad you are back.
This is the second time I've heard this story The first time it was from the parents perspective This was more from Patty's perspective Even though the details were the same it made for two very different stories Both great video though
What an incredibly sad story... Her mother is something else...
My mother named two of her kids Jody. She loved the name that much. It's my first name and my sister's middle name. 😂
Patty and Frank were again denied parole.
They haven't seen or spoken to each since 1977.
So how many years did "Uncle" Gus get for starting all of this?
Thank you for the upload Jiles!!!!🙏🙏🙏💛💛💛
I dont get why when a inmate has done nothing but be defiant, unruly, aggressive while in prison, why give them the opportunity to even get out? If they do something so bad that it causes them to lose their right to walk amongst normal, hard working tax payers, then why give the a chance to do it again or worst? Also this whole 20 years plus sitting back with free room, free food, just passing time till they get the DP? Nope, especially when it comes to the parents killing their child/children, 5 years tops then they get the DP.
Its disgusting that a animal will go and do everything it can to protect their babies and here there are some monsters that will kill their child to get back at a ex for having a new gf. This is the world we are leaving the next generation, sad just sad
Mostly because if someone serves their sentence then they're free to go and that's the deal. It isn't always great, but I prefer that to the government being able to just lock up whoever it likes forever with no due process.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I LOVE YOUR WORK, AND THAT I USE YOUR VOICE TO FALL ASLEEP. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I DO WATCH EVERY VIDEO. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR VIDEOS ON THIS CHANNEL AND SINISTER😊