Cleveland needs a dome stadium. Cleveland is always behind the times. It is no big deal if the stadium is in Brook park or Cleveland. People will still fill it.
No it does not CLV is not a place that is going to get multiple SB. One is not worth spending 700 million + If Buffalo can do without so can Browns. They should go with European state or old Cowboys stadium design.
I don't think they need a dome, to be honest as they've always played outdoors. I do think most of the league will be playing indoors at some point in the next 20-30 years, but Cleveland can get away with playing outdoors a little longer.
A dome is almost never a need. Only exception is maybe North Dakota State but if Green Bay doesn't need a dome then neither does anyone. Especially since the players are pushing for natural turf over artificial
Cleveland needs a new stadium with a cute entertainment district. There is not enough sushi places and shopping next to the Browns ball field. Atlanta gets a new stadium every 10 years why can’t we!
@@Z64sports yes!!! If they want to make the stadium trendy! They need to put in a trendy and cute little Korean Taco place too It would super trendy! I was talking to my friend Tayden and we thought if would attract More generation z if they put in more sushi restaurants next to the stadium. And maybe it will attract a soccer team. Opps I meant futbol. And we call it Cleveland futbol club. I also love that they changed the name to Guardians from Indians. They needed a fresh rebrand. But to answer your question? Yes we definitely need sushi place next to Cleveland Browns football stadium.
Laughable. Politicians saying the Browns need to renovate the current stadium is like saying you need to stay in abusive relationship where you get kicked in the b@#&s every hour.
I'm a Clevelander, the problem is,money is allocated to a new jail and a dilapidated Airport, Haslem is going to the state (Republicans) for some money allocation,the city had 10 years to find land downtown and didn't get it done,downtown is landlocked already, the Browns need their own area,the city doesn't have any significant investments coming from any other billionaires to help with future investments
Dome/BP no brainer. Putting $1 billion into a stadium that at best makes it 15 years complete waste of money. Develop lake front into something awesome. (Burke airport not an option because it’s built on in fill/not real land and FAA airport closure process can take up to a decade)
That NEW stadium is going to Brookpark, Haslem will get terms/aid that he’s ok with (mainly from the state). He’s making the Cuyahoga County Democrats look like idiots (which they are). They’ll go down in history as the regime that lost the Browns to the burbs….hope they pay the price at election time (especially Mayor “Urkel”). 🤣
Hate hearing that they’ll lose the team again bc literally the land touches the municipality of Cleveland lol they’re just mad bc it’s billions of dollars leaving the city of Cleveland. But it’s a bad investment for the city to keep it lakefront. On the other hand it’s a great investment for Brookpark and the Haslams to move… of the options presented Brookpark is far superior.
I am generally pro stadium development, but these luxury stadiums are just getting insane. LA can offset the cost of a $2.2b stadium because they attract world events and it hosts two NFL teams. SOFI is booked close to 100 dates a year. They also have a large corporate base they can sell suites to, which are a HUGE portion of total ticket revenue. Cleveland spending the same thing on a stadium that will have less than 30 total dates a year booked and a fraction of the corporate money is insane. It will never going to recoup the taxpayer money that will go into it
All this means is that the county isn't going to fork up money for the stadium meaning Jimmy is going to have to fork up some of his own money....and he has the money to do it.
I respect everyone’s opinion so folks who say because of tradition I just ask, what has that won us? Sometimes it’s better for find progression then staying in the same spot. It’s so many flaws with the current stadium I beg anyone too read into it. BUT BUT BUT I am not with using our tax money. Jimmy definitely needs to fork up some more cash.
I agree, the cold weather hasn’t won us anything… but the issue with not using any tax dollars is that the city owns everything. So if they’re going to hold the team hostage the city needs to fork up a reasonable offer to make it worth it to the Haslams to keep it downtown. The Haslams would be losing billions by not moving. Edit: to clarify I’m not saying I want them to use tax dollars either but the reality is that the location sucks so if the city wants to benefit from the team being in Cleveland then they need to help out or let the Haslams do what’s best for the team, northern Ohio, and the Haslams themselves.
So they want to spend over a billion dollars to renovate a stadium that gets used less than 20 times a year? Where's the money in that?!?! MAKE IT MAKES SENSE!!!
Not surprised, only the delusional fans, thought the Browns would leave downtown for the suburbs. I always knew just like with the Chicago Bears as well that these two teams are going to stay put downtown and have to figure it out. What the Browns need to do is develop the area around the stadium and make it more of an attraction to come on non-gamedays. The city and state need to give that lakefront area around a $5-7 billion deal for development around the stadium. The biggest question for the Browns is do they need a dome just yet? I was thinking the same thing with the Bears, if both teams can't figure it out then stay outdoors a little longer. Jumping to the suburbs in non-car cities is never the answer.
Not from Cleveland but outside looking in, i dont think they need a new stadium. Worrying about building shops and restaurants are not important to this sports fan.
@Depresssed Ginger so news5 Cleveland did a report yesterday interviewing the mayor of Brook Park and he stated that the Cleveland Browns Stadium decession is not a Priority right now their priority right now is to restore power to those who are affected and clean up after the Storms that went through on Tuesday. Also as a side Note. Brook Park will be a better option then the cleveland browns stadium. The reason i say that is if the lease expires in 2028. They could finalize it, Purchase the Land and start the the piping, water, etc then once completed Start the construction. Before Map out with wooden stakes to show what what to help get a better idea driving by car and what it will look like by Air. By 2025 you can start the building process and be ready for 2028/2029 football season
Change some NFL rules for teams in this situation - let the Browns play in Canton or Akron a few years while building the ultimate retractable dome multi-purpose stadium where it already is on the lake - turn Burke into Jimmyland - everybody wins -
The Browns have a beautiful stadium!! after years of watching games at Municipal. They need to stay there until they win a Super Bowl. Yeck, I would be happy with a QB. My poor Browns. Yes, I am the one.
Please explain why the dome is such an important factor. Bengals stadium is on the water-no dome, Steelers on the water- no dome and Ravens no dome there all in the same division. Haslem’s are just about $.
For one, it’s easier player’s bodies. No more half empty stadium when it’s cold and raining. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh are on rivers. Lake Erie is a different animal
The county t the dog that ain’t hunting. No way they have the weight to keep this project from fruition. The proposed Browns stadium in Brookpark is already years in development as the detailed renderings fully indicate. The mouthpieces at the county will get their little extra and Browns stadium will get the county’s blessing. The stadium as proposed will bring every major event to northeast Ohio including the Super Bowl. No way this is not happening.
If they build the stadium on the lake with an exit after 55th exit all of our stadiums will be on the right side along the highway 90 going through our downtown... Great views
this is what happened to Hall of Fame Village at the new Hall of Fame football stadium in Canton they want all these projects but then they run out of funding and not all of it gets built.
Tell jimmy is he wants to build a dome he has to pay for it. Taxpayers aren’t going to help. Cleveland is offering $461M to renovate the current stadium. Brook Park is broke. They have no $$ to offer. County won’t contribute if he moves to BP, state wants.nothing to do with sports venues. So it’s up to jimmy and his rich friends to pay for jimmy-land by the airport. Don’t worry, we’ll all get to take part in paying for it when we see the ticket prices!
That's fine - like a user tax. I have no problem with Jimmy building his own and keeping the money. Problem now is taxpayers paid for a stadium and he leases it at fraction of cost and keeps most of the $$
Weak point about Burke being disconnected to the City when Brook Park is further away from the City of Cleveland....But it is Clevelands fault they are in this predicament due to lagging on lakefront development and allowing Burke to just sit there occupying space.
The city has no plan. That's why we have not seen any pictures of what it would look like. They need to get off the mistake by the lake. Plain and simple. Brookpark is the way to go.
Stadium Needs to stay in the city for me. Cleveland is KNOWN for it's tough weather and windy games. To have a solid roof or "dome" would would be sacrilege. At the VERY least have it be a collapsible roof for cool weather games AND for hosting big events!
The problem with that is Jimmy Haslam isn't a Clevelander. The Browns are nothing more than a business investment to him, and his desire for a new stadium actually isn't as much about the Browns as it is a way for Haslam to make more money on non-Browns events. Haslam is one of the worst things to ever happen to the Browns...which is obviously a big statement considering how snake-bit the franchise has been for the last few decades.
I think it’d be cool but there’s more retractable roofs that suck than ones that don’t so I’d say the renderings and style that they showed would be the best option.
Three teams have won super bowl where they play in dome, colts, rams, and saints, look at Minnesota they went to 4 super bowls but haven't vbeen one since going to dome
the browns and the city of cleveland are 2 completely different things, and that’s partially why they wanna move bc cleveland is lazy, a well majority of the suburbs including brook park are fine though
I’m rooting for Brookpark at this time bc it’s the best of the presented options but if there were a way to like move it across the river from tower city district so it’s closer to where the guardians and cavs play, that’d be cool to. But that won’t happen lol
If you think the previous renovation was good then you're delusional my friend. The current stadium is utter shit. You would have to basically have to redo the entire thing from the foundation up. A simple renovation isn't going go help. The Brookpark site is the best candidate for the new stadium. This would let the city focus on doing the entire lakefront project without the Browns really getting in the way. They could do so many things with the current stadium site but we all know deep down inside that the city will fuck it up. They have 40 years to do that lakefront and they have always kicked the project down the road. Why would residents get behind this when they burned us with empty promises before? The city of Cleveland is a joke.
We've been on the lake since 1946 and we're a cold weather team through and through. Glad it's hung up and I hope it fails, develop the lake front and hey maybe even build a new Open Air on that spot!
Say hellos to the St Louis Browns after 2028 then. Keeping this team downtown is stupid, keeping that abhorrent of crap stadium downtown is stupid. Then again, everything the politicians in this city and county have done for 60 years has been dumb and short sighted.
@@retrogaminggenesis6102 you can but that still wouldn’t fix the other issues. The immobility (one set of escalators) the weather (negative degree game vs saints for example) and countless others
Except they said for years no money, and then make a lackluster offer that doesn’t actually address any of the current issues… plus if they were going to stay the city owns the stadium and owns the property. So it’s kind of on the city to give them money if they wanna stay.
@@ryand5725 bruh how much of your $$$ (tax) would u be willing 2 pay for a stadium that is used 8days @yr?? 99% of the profit goes 2 the billionaires. As far as I’m concerned unless the building about to collapse, that stadium if perfectly fine 4 being used 8days@yr
So, just put lipstick on the current ugly ass stadium and lock them into a 30 year lease in a building that will end up looking like the Oakland Coliseum in the end
Cleveland needs a dome stadium. Cleveland is always behind the times. It is no big deal if the stadium is in Brook park or Cleveland. People will still fill it.
No no no dome ball is lame Browns fan since the 1980 season...
No it does not CLV is not a place that is going to get multiple SB. One is not worth spending 700 million + If Buffalo can do without so can Browns. They should go with European state or old Cowboys stadium design.
I don't think they need a dome, to be honest as they've always played outdoors. I do think most of the league will be playing indoors at some point in the next 20-30 years, but Cleveland can get away with playing outdoors a little longer.
@@sawmillguy9706 And what has playing in an open air stadium done for the Browns in the past 25 years?!?! Not much!!
A dome is almost never a need. Only exception is maybe North Dakota State but if Green Bay doesn't need a dome then neither does anyone. Especially since the players are pushing for natural turf over artificial
Cleveland needs a new stadium with a cute entertainment district. There is not enough sushi places and shopping next to the Browns ball field. Atlanta gets a new stadium every 10 years why can’t we!
Is sushi really that big there that they need it right by the stadium specifically?
@@Z64sports yes!!! If they want to make the stadium trendy! They need to put in a trendy and cute little Korean Taco place too It would super trendy! I was talking to my friend Tayden and we thought if would attract More generation z if they put in more sushi restaurants next to the stadium. And maybe it will attract a soccer team. Opps I meant futbol. And we call it Cleveland futbol club. I also love that they changed the name to Guardians from Indians. They needed a fresh rebrand. But to answer your question? Yes we definitely need sushi place next to Cleveland Browns football stadium.
Laughable. Politicians saying the Browns need to renovate the current stadium is like saying you need to stay in abusive relationship where you get kicked in the b@#&s every hour.
you worded this so much better than i could have
I'm a Clevelander, the problem is,money is allocated to a new jail and a dilapidated Airport, Haslem is going to the state (Republicans) for some money allocation,the city had 10 years to find land downtown and didn't get it done,downtown is landlocked already, the Browns need their own area,the city doesn't have any significant investments coming from any other billionaires to help with future investments
They should build the stadium on a deridgeable (blimp) and fly it around the area so they can say everybody has the Browns in the air 😂
Dome/BP no brainer. Putting $1 billion into a stadium that at best makes it 15 years complete waste of money. Develop lake front into something awesome. (Burke airport not an option because it’s built on in fill/not real land and FAA airport closure process can take up to a decade)
Always impressed how DG can stretch out a 2 minute video into 10 to get monetized
That NEW stadium is going to Brookpark, Haslem will get terms/aid that he’s ok with (mainly from the state). He’s making the Cuyahoga County Democrats look like idiots (which they are). They’ll go down in history as the regime that lost the Browns to the burbs….hope they pay the price at election time (especially Mayor “Urkel”). 🤣
Losing the team twice in 30 years 🙃
Not losing the team at all. It’s moving 10 miles away. Completely different than Baltimore.
Hate hearing that they’ll lose the team again bc literally the land touches the municipality of Cleveland lol they’re just mad bc it’s billions of dollars leaving the city of Cleveland. But it’s a bad investment for the city to keep it lakefront. On the other hand it’s a great investment for Brookpark and the Haslams to move… of the options presented Brookpark is far superior.
Amen.
How many football teams play in the city they're named after? This isn't a new thing.
The current Browns stadium is in such a terrible location - its awful.
Said nobody ever... it's a short walk from the bars and it's in a beautiful location with a view of the lake, GLSC, and R&R Hall of Fame.
The Browns don't need a New Stadium! Their current one is Beautiful and in a perfect location off the water! This is getting ridiculous!!
I am generally pro stadium development, but these luxury stadiums are just getting insane. LA can offset the cost of a $2.2b stadium because they attract world events and it hosts two NFL teams. SOFI is booked close to 100 dates a year. They also have a large corporate base they can sell suites to, which are a HUGE portion of total ticket revenue.
Cleveland spending the same thing on a stadium that will have less than 30 total dates a year booked and a fraction of the corporate money is insane. It will never going to recoup the taxpayer money that will go into it
Stan Kroenke paid for SoFi himself and reaps all the profits
All this means is that the county isn't going to fork up money for the stadium meaning Jimmy is going to have to fork up some of his own money....and he has the money to do it.
I respect everyone’s opinion so folks who say because of tradition I just ask, what has that won us? Sometimes it’s better for find progression then staying in the same spot. It’s so many flaws with the current stadium I beg anyone too read into it. BUT BUT BUT I am not with using our tax money. Jimmy definitely needs to fork up some more cash.
I agree, the cold weather hasn’t won us anything… but the issue with not using any tax dollars is that the city owns everything. So if they’re going to hold the team hostage the city needs to fork up a reasonable offer to make it worth it to the Haslams to keep it downtown. The Haslams would be losing billions by not moving.
Edit: to clarify I’m not saying I want them to use tax dollars either but the reality is that the location sucks so if the city wants to benefit from the team being in Cleveland then they need to help out or let the Haslams do what’s best for the team, northern Ohio, and the Haslams themselves.
The Governor of Ohio will make sure that the Haslams get what they want.
So they want to spend over a billion dollars to renovate a stadium that gets used less than 20 times a year? Where's the money in that?!?! MAKE IT MAKES SENSE!!!
If they renovate the stadium it can be used more than 20 times a year
they only want the browns to stay downtown because they want to make money off of the parking revenue the games generated which is stupid
Not surprised, only the delusional fans, thought the Browns would leave downtown for the suburbs. I always knew just like with the Chicago Bears as well that these two teams are going to stay put downtown and have to figure it out. What the Browns need to do is develop the area around the stadium and make it more of an attraction to come on non-gamedays. The city and state need to give that lakefront area around a $5-7 billion deal for development around the stadium. The biggest question for the Browns is do they need a dome just yet? I was thinking the same thing with the Bears, if both teams can't figure it out then stay outdoors a little longer. Jumping to the suburbs in non-car cities is never the answer.
Not from Cleveland but outside looking in, i dont think they need a new stadium. Worrying about building shops and restaurants are not important to this sports fan.
@Depresssed Ginger so news5 Cleveland did a report yesterday interviewing the mayor of Brook Park and he stated that the Cleveland Browns Stadium decession is not a Priority right now their priority right now is to restore power to those who are affected and clean up after the Storms that went through on Tuesday. Also as a side Note. Brook Park will be a better option then the cleveland browns stadium. The reason i say that is if the lease expires in 2028. They could finalize it, Purchase the Land and start the the piping, water, etc then once completed Start the construction. Before Map out with wooden stakes to show what what to help get a better idea driving by car and what it will look like by Air. By 2025 you can start the building process and be ready for 2028/2029 football season
Sorry kids you can’t have lunch but we can give a billionaire billions of money out of thin air. Pay for it on his own dame dime.
City of Cleveland is desperately grasping on to the Factory of Sadness.
Let it go - nothing good has ever been done there.
Change some NFL rules for teams in this situation - let the Browns play in Canton or Akron a few years while building the ultimate retractable dome multi-purpose stadium where it already is on the lake - turn Burke into Jimmyland - everybody wins -
The Browns have a beautiful stadium!! after years of watching games at Municipal. They need to stay there until they win a Super Bowl. Yeck, I would be happy with a QB. My poor Browns. Yes, I am the one.
Please explain why the dome is such an important factor. Bengals stadium is on the water-no dome, Steelers on the water- no dome and Ravens no dome there all in the same division. Haslem’s are just about $.
For one, it’s easier player’s bodies. No more half empty stadium when it’s cold and raining. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh are on rivers. Lake Erie is a different animal
The county t the dog that ain’t hunting. No way they have the weight to keep this project from fruition. The proposed Browns stadium in Brookpark is already years in development as the detailed renderings fully indicate. The mouthpieces at the county will get their little extra and Browns stadium will get the county’s blessing. The stadium as proposed will bring every major event to northeast Ohio including the Super Bowl. No way this is not happening.
I agree with Cuyahoga County. Football stadiums should last 100 years. Stay and develop the area
Just get rid of the Cleveland browns curse take your team to Columbus Ohio. We will let you build a stadium
If they build the stadium on the lake with an exit after 55th exit all of our stadiums will be on the right side along the highway 90 going through our downtown... Great views
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this is what happened to Hall of Fame Village at the new Hall of Fame football stadium in Canton they want all these projects but then they run out of funding and not all of it gets built.
The arena football leauge 😂😂
I actually made the Arena teams in Madden as a kid for variety
"F" brook park (Lower Case). Build a Dome in the current location and play Brown's games in Columbus ( A treat for Columbus).
Tell jimmy is he wants to build a dome he has to pay for it. Taxpayers aren’t going to help. Cleveland is offering $461M to renovate the current stadium. Brook Park is broke. They have no $$ to offer. County won’t contribute if he moves to BP, state wants.nothing to do with sports venues. So it’s up to jimmy and his rich friends to pay for jimmy-land by the airport. Don’t worry, we’ll all get to take part in paying for it when we see the ticket prices!
That's fine - like a user tax. I have no problem with Jimmy building his own and keeping the money. Problem now is taxpayers paid for a stadium and he leases it at fraction of cost and keeps most of the $$
The lakefront being undeveloped for the last hundred years is the cities responsibility. Not the Browns.
Where are you gonna build it then?
Weak point about Burke being disconnected to the City when Brook Park is further away from the City of Cleveland....But it is Clevelands fault they are in this predicament due to lagging on lakefront development and allowing Burke to just sit there occupying space.
The city has no plan. That's why we have not seen any pictures of what it would look like. They need to get off the mistake by the lake. Plain and simple. Brookpark is the way to go.
Also I feel like cities that’s not that cold I understand not building a dome. Cleveland tho? The weather gets insane here at times.
Buffalo get worse weather and their new stadium is open
@@crgray1979 because the city citizens voted against it
Stadium Needs to stay in the city for me. Cleveland is KNOWN for it's tough weather and windy games. To have a solid roof or "dome" would would be sacrilege. At the VERY least have it be a collapsible roof for cool weather games AND for hosting big events!
The problem with that is Jimmy Haslam isn't a Clevelander. The Browns are nothing more than a business investment to him, and his desire for a new stadium actually isn't as much about the Browns as it is a way for Haslam to make more money on non-Browns events. Haslam is one of the worst things to ever happen to the Browns...which is obviously a big statement considering how snake-bit the franchise has been for the last few decades.
Nah Nashville needs a dome it’s always cold and rainy or really hot
I can't believe im saying this if do get new stadium or renovation in Cleveland get retractable roof for booth
I think it’d be cool but there’s more retractable roofs that suck than ones that don’t so I’d say the renderings and style that they showed would be the best option.
Three teams have won super bowl where they play in dome, colts, rams, and saints, look at Minnesota they went to 4 super bowls but haven't vbeen one since going to dome
Cleveland is a $-hole. Clean up the County ( Cuyahoga) b-4 they throw good money away.
the browns and the city of cleveland are 2 completely different things, and that’s partially why they wanna move bc cleveland is lazy, a well majority of the suburbs including brook park are fine though
Dome stadium on the lake. Too much $?
move to st.louis
Haslem will get what he wants in Brookpark. He will just have to pay more money.
I dare you to talk about the Columbus Crew or FC Cincinnati. 😂
I would have struck it down based on how ugly the brook park one looks like alone. It looks like a mega church.
It belongs IN BROOK PARK!
(Insert Donald Trump "wrong" GIF)
@@retrogaminggenesis6102no
Correct.
I’m rooting for Brookpark at this time bc it’s the best of the presented options but if there were a way to like move it across the river from tower city district so it’s closer to where the guardians and cavs play, that’d be cool to. But that won’t happen lol
THE CLEVELAND BROWNS ARE GOING TO STAY IN THE CITY OF CLEVELAND IN THE END.
in 4 years they'll probably win a super bowl
Keep it downrown build a dome staduim fine but keep it downtown
Least Populated Part Of Cleveland Just Outside Greater Downtown Metro Side Of The City! All They Have Is An Airport Down There!
ok can you give those plans to Chicago so they can have something better that rip offed plan they have for the bears.
Stop building stadiums when u have a new stadium, made after the Ravens build Camden Yards Football PSI Ravens Stadium
If you think the previous renovation was good then you're delusional my friend.
The current stadium is utter shit. You would have to basically have to redo the entire thing from the foundation up. A simple renovation isn't going go help.
The Brookpark site is the best candidate for the new stadium. This would let the city focus on doing the entire lakefront project without the Browns really getting in the way.
They could do so many things with the current stadium site but we all know deep down inside that the city will fuck it up. They have 40 years to do that lakefront and they have always kicked the project down the road. Why would residents get behind this when they burned us with empty promises before? The city of Cleveland is a joke.
Lordy this is a joke
We've been on the lake since 1946 and we're a cold weather team through and through. Glad it's hung up and I hope it fails, develop the lake front and hey maybe even build a new Open Air on that spot!
Say hellos to the St Louis Browns after 2028 then. Keeping this team downtown is stupid, keeping that abhorrent of crap stadium downtown is stupid. Then again, everything the politicians in this city and county have done for 60 years has been dumb and short sighted.
That sucks all because of tradition we should keep a building that’s using pipes from 1946 🤦🏾♂️
@@johnepantsjokes on you it's locked to Ohio by law.
@@onlyonezay419almost like you can replace them or something...
@@retrogaminggenesis6102 you can but that still wouldn’t fix the other issues. The immobility (one set of escalators) the weather (negative degree game vs saints for example) and countless others
There cheap the state won’t help.
Good, stop letting these Billion $$$ owners threat with leaving, if u want tax $$ it’s gone be done the ppls way
Except they said for years no money, and then make a lackluster offer that doesn’t actually address any of the current issues… plus if they were going to stay the city owns the stadium and owns the property. So it’s kind of on the city to give them money if they wanna stay.
@@ryand5725 bruh how much of your $$$ (tax) would u be willing 2 pay for a stadium that is used 8days @yr?? 99% of the profit goes 2 the billionaires. As far as I’m concerned unless the building about to collapse, that stadium if perfectly fine 4 being used 8days@yr
Yes renovations don't build that ugly ass new stadium
So, just put lipstick on the current ugly ass stadium and lock them into a 30 year lease in a building that will end up looking like the Oakland Coliseum in the end
You do realize that building is using pipes from the 50s ? No matter what renovations it’s going to remain trash coming from a clevelander
Wrong.
Ignorance is bliss I guess…
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Haslam wants a new stadium then build it yourself. The taxpayers have already paid for one and the renovations.
Cleveland is becoming the same joke Chicago is now.
The only thing in trouble is Donald Trump's campaign.
If you had a brain you would be Dangerous!
Cleveland Browns Stadium 🏟 is just fine. Take the public money and re develope the lakefront area. Keep it open