I just restored my sunroom. I sealed, caulked and repainted my aluminum. Then I re-did the screens with new screens and spline. Instead of cutting out the screens, just remove the spline and cut the new screen and spline to the same size as the old. Speeds up the process. Cost about $250
Jeff’s face when he realized the last horizontal piece was to long. That gave me a good laugh. Thanks for showing all the bloopers. It gives people realistic expectations. Everyone makes mistakes, even the pros
When I was re-screening my porch, I had bought one of those metal tools to squeeze in the spline. Every time I used it, it would cut through the screen because the edges were simply too sharp. Out of desperation, I grabbed the cheap, plastic version that had been left in the garage before I bought the house, and it worked like a charm. One of the rare instances where cheaper ended up being better.
I been replacing my pool enclosure screens for years now and it never dawned on me to use a little piece of spline to hold the corners in. That's actually a great tip. 👍
We moved here to south Carolina about 7 years ago after living in Florida for over 25 years. One of the first things i noticed is no one here builds screened in lanias or porches! Its weird we have the pretty much the same weather except winters as in Florida. Most importantly we have the same mosquito issues as Florida. We plan on screening in our rear deck soon. Unfortunately no one in this area carrys the aluminum rails and post to do it . We are going to have everything we need shipped from a supplier in Florida. If i was younger man i would start a enclosed screening business and make serious money! Its just weird.....
@jill552 thanks! I just looked them up. They are 2 hours from us but they seem to have everything we need! I'm calling them tomorrow as today is Sunday. Thanks again!
I have an old 1960's travel trailer I stay in that also doubles as my work space. I've been debating on whether to get a newer one but what had me lean towards working on this one is that the bathroom was in perfect condition and it has a full bath with tub across the back of it, not next to the kitchen area which I'm not a fan of. After some years, due to some deep digging to plant a tree I ended up finding an underground room in my back yard. Now I'm debating on whether to continue with all the work this trailer still needs, or just getting a newer one, or building a tiny home back here and integrating this underground room into my build. One of the things I had always taken into consideration is that so long as it's on tires, I don't have to hassle with the whole deal of another structure on the property, being that it's my dad's property and he, my daughter and bro live in the house in front. (Oh ya, when I came back home due to my ma having been ill at the time, years ago, my dad said to me to never take the tires of that thing, lol, if you get what he meant). I am hoping to see you do more internal trailer work because that would really help me out with my debate on what my next move will be. I really do love your videos and are my go to when it comes to anything that involves me picking up my hammer or drill.
Hi Jeff, When you ground the screw head, you did grind into the downpipe surface. Your method, which I haven't used before and I will use in the future, would be great when the surface that has the screw head is flat. I usually use a drill and take off the head. This is great for rivets. Another way is to use vice grips also could be called locking pliers. If the screw comes out, there's no need to grind or drill. On the bitties and as I'm in Australia, they can be sandflies or, the small named, midgies. Both are in sandy areas and are usually prevalent from before sunset. With the midgies, sometimes you don't know you have been bitten until the welts and itches begin.
Screen problem 1: The screen is parallel lines that need to be parallel to the frame. As you set the spline watch the screen is parallel and if you are off, pull it back to where it is parallel. Screen problem 2: The spline tool has 2 ends for different purposes. Only the rounded wheel will ensure the spline is fully seated. The spline is either hollow or a squishy solid center. Either way the end used by Jeff pushes on the outside of the spline. I suggest you start the first couple of inches and then switch to the rounded wheel. The spline track is deep enough to keep the wheel on the spline. If you find the wheel does not stay on the spline, then the spline probably isn't fully in the track. Problem 3: don't be gentle. It takes some force to fully seat the spline. It needs to be fully in the track and not flush with the frame.
This. Concave end first helps keep the spline in line, convex end second pushes the spline in, surprising how much deeper it can go, and it tensions the screen fully. Landlord with a couple decades of window screens/door screens, without fully seating them they can pull out readily and the more tension the better to not flap or bow like a shower curtain when the wind blows.
@@RJFerret The concave wheel's original use was for metal screens. If you ever pulled an old metal screen, you'd be surprised how stiff it is and I heard required so much force that you couldn't keep the convex wheel on the spline. You had to make 2 passes. I've only done a few but when you are taught by the guys who took pride in their work, they told you the full story. You reminded me about the other problem beginners have. Don't stretch the screen at all. The spline goes in about 1/4 inch on each side which stretches the nylon screen by 1/2 inch. Another recommendation for beginners is to use plastic spline tool. Metal spline tools easily cut screens if you slip.
With this project , I finally understand why people would furnish an outside space and even hang indoor/outdoor curtains for the season .....something that makes little sense in a northern climate w/ a short warm season of only 4 months
I thought grinding disks where supposed to be installed with the painted disclaimers flipped around towards you (while grinding painted thing faces you). (I also know not to use cut off wheel as grinding disk, but I still use it sometimes lol..)
You're supposed to. Using the wrong disk and installing it backwards not only shortens the life of the disk but also has a higher chance of the disk fracturing and sending shrapnel everywhere. Diy shouldn't mean OSHA doesn't exist but people are people and who really cares..
I am very interested in the sheeting installation at the bottom of the wall. You did it so quickly I don’t quite get how to assemble the piece. I am trying to add a 6” kickplate to the bottom of my Florida screen room, I have the same extrusion I just need to know how I would measure up for the bottom piece to hold the kickplate and how to actually assemble the thing. I got the screening part fine. thanks for the tip about the spline.
We have NoSeeUms in Michigan also. It's common name is a Gnat. And yes they are ferocious little blood suckers. The addition/not addition looks great now. Never liked lattice work higher than a foot.
Jeff, I found the screening portion of the video very helpful, for the most part. I was disappointed when you began working on the bottom side of the first panel. I was waiting to see if you stretched the screen material when completing the bottom spline insertion. Unfortunately the the elevator music started blaring just at that point. So, having said all that, is there any stretching of the screen material required when inserting the spline in the bottom side of the opening? Thank you.
I am no expert, but as long as you don't wrinkles in the screen? It is all good! Stretching is NOT needed BTW. Otherwise you are risking other issues such as "tearing". There needs to be some give and take on the screen. Point and Fact "like" a automotive belt which needs 1/2' Deflection. Just like Jeff said make sure to cut each piece a "wee" bit short for the corners. Never do it in one continuous spline. Ask me how I know that!! 😥😥
I have been contemplating screening in our porch. The existing posts are odd distances apart. I intend to even up the spaces by adding 2 posts and moving all but the corner posts. The railing is in bad shape, so that will be replaced in the process. I'm up in the air about the decking, as whether to refinish or replace.
Question- I have an old aluminum screen room 12 x 10 off the back of my house. I would like to take the screens out and have framed plexi glass panels put in to replace screens.. do you think that’s doable? There’s a 2 inch ledge around the screen frames…
Hi Jeff. I have a job framing/screening in a front door landing with a screen door and I wanted to give the aluminum extrusion a try. Any idea where I can buy the EZ Screen aluminum framing in Ontario? I can only find it in Home Depot in the US. Other options?
I watched a short about your downspout screw stripped and you used the grinder. I lost it before I could comment. I do alot of art that requires torching g bubbles and make jewelry.. Use a creme Brule torch to the screw. It will aneal the metal and may loosen the grime holding the screw in so tight.
Hay Jeff I from Australia love work, however with the screens, the spline should be on the inside less easier to brake in, the why the window screen spline is on the in side 😊 O I am ned 👍
If you think the no-see-ums are funny, wait until love bug season. Welcome to Florida Jeff, It's Great in the winter (except for traffic), sucks in the summer for any outdoor tradesman.
Hi Jeff great DIY ,,looks good ..on that screen room that grove is for flat spline so it locks in Grove,,,,round will pull out ,,,but everything looks and explain things correctly...🌴😎
I am curious who is your cameraman ? It isn't Max is It? I see Matt but not a lot.. Great instructions as always thanks and cheers! shivering black bell thumbs up.
Happy fourth of july Jeff to you and your family, I see you're still working at the house in florida. Are you Remodeling that house So you can relocate from Canada to there.
A note about getting the correct spline size. The thickness of the screen will affect the size of the spline. How do I know? I replaced a section with what turned out to be a thicker screen. The spline size I had used wasn’t seating in the track. Fortunately, I had also purchased a package of spline that was the next smaller size. That size was perfect for the new screen.
when did you film this? I'm curious because it's so hot in the south, I sweat so much, if it were me in your place, I'd look as if someone had been constantly soaking me with a water hose.
I am sure he is aware that his "grinding" wheel is actually a cut off wheel. By using it to grind you are thinning out the wheel, when you go to cut something with the wheel it has a better chance of having a high speed come apart. Not to be a hypocrite, I catch myself doing it because it is convenient, but I do use my saftey squints all of the time.
OK wait. Did I miss something? How are the spline channels white? I'd expect them to still be original color after just surface painting with a roller.
In the south shore of NS but inland-- we grew up with no see ems.... wee bastards! These days Im in eastern Ontario & the mosquitoes take chunks out of 1s arm!
Very informative, thanks Jeff! As a note, Simple Green works really well on Aluminum and if you cut it 50-50 with water, the gallon of concentrate (which is expensive admittedly) is really 2 gallons of cleaner. For rusted screws, alternative to cutting the head off: Cut a slot in the head with an angle grinder and use a straight blade bit in the impact driver. Works great unless someone used stainless hardware on aluminum (they don't play nicely together - galvanic reaction) and you will break the screw before you get it out
@@3rdPartyIntervener A project permit is 100% a job cost. You only use it for that particular job and you don’t take it to another project… This is why most construction business fail. They haven’t learned how to run the numbers.
More importantly, don't teach neophytes to go against the manual's warning to not use the side of cut off blades as they can shatter. Also keeping body parts and others out of the line of fire is advisable especially when doing extra risk. I'm happy to not use certain protections or do things within my ability others might not, but rotary blades spin fast with lots of force and do break.
I made a mistake on the screen installation, watch me fix it 👉🏼ua-cam.com/video/ZOjuvbWYfaM/v-deo.html
I just restored my sunroom. I sealed, caulked and repainted my aluminum. Then I re-did the screens with new screens and spline. Instead of cutting out the screens, just remove the spline and cut the new screen and spline to the same size as the old. Speeds up the process. Cost about $250
How long did it take though.
Jeff’s face when he realized the last horizontal piece was to long. That gave me a good laugh. Thanks for showing all the bloopers. It gives people realistic expectations. Everyone makes mistakes, even the pros
Yes
I bought a 1950’s Craftsman in awful condition. You’re helping me make it beautiful again. ❤
When I was re-screening my porch, I had bought one of those metal tools to squeeze in the spline. Every time I used it, it would cut through the screen because the edges were simply too sharp. Out of desperation, I grabbed the cheap, plastic version that had been left in the garage before I bought the house, and it worked like a charm. One of the rare instances where cheaper ended up being better.
You are single handedly teaching me how to renovate/maintain my home while my husband is overseas. This channel is a gold mine. Thank you so much!
I been replacing my pool enclosure screens for years now and it never dawned on me to use a little piece of spline to hold the corners in. That's actually a great tip. 👍
We moved here to south Carolina about 7 years ago after living in Florida for over 25 years. One of the first things i noticed is no one here builds screened in lanias or porches! Its weird we have the pretty much the same weather except winters as in Florida. Most importantly we have the same mosquito issues as Florida. We plan on screening in our rear deck soon. Unfortunately no one in this area carrys the aluminum rails and post to do it . We are going to have everything we need shipped from a supplier in Florida. If i was younger man i would start a enclosed screening business and make serious money! Its just weird.....
Screen Tight is made in South Carolina. They may have a product that will work for you.
@jill552 thanks! I just looked them up. They are 2 hours from us but they seem to have everything we need! I'm calling them tomorrow as today is Sunday. Thanks again!
I have an old 1960's travel trailer I stay in that also doubles as my work space. I've been debating on whether to get a newer one but what had me lean towards working on this one is that the bathroom was in perfect condition and it has a full bath with tub across the back of it, not next to the kitchen area which I'm not a fan of. After some years, due to some deep digging to plant a tree I ended up finding an underground room in my back yard. Now I'm debating on whether to continue with all the work this trailer still needs, or just getting a newer one, or building a tiny home back here and integrating this underground room into my build. One of the things I had always taken into consideration is that so long as it's on tires, I don't have to hassle with the whole deal of another structure on the property, being that it's my dad's property and he, my daughter and bro live in the house in front. (Oh ya, when I came back home due to my ma having been ill at the time, years ago, my dad said to me to never take the tires of that thing, lol, if you get what he meant). I am hoping to see you do more internal trailer work because that would really help me out with my debate on what my next move will be. I really do love your videos and are my go to when it comes to anything that involves me picking up my hammer or drill.
Jeff, i find it easy to use painters tape and stick on top of your screen at first to hold in place. cheers
what a beautiful job! I love watching you work. You are a very talented gentleman.
Love an upload from UA-cam’s dad 👏🏻
great job Jeff! once again helped tons of people how to safe tons of money!
A days work and you make it look like new again. Like it. Clean it up,paint it job done.
Thanks 👍
Hi Jeff, When you ground the screw head, you did grind into the downpipe surface. Your method, which I haven't used before and I will use in the future, would be great when the surface that has the screw head is flat. I usually use a drill and take off the head. This is great for rivets. Another way is to use vice grips also could be called locking pliers. If the screw comes out, there's no need to grind or drill.
On the bitties and as I'm in Australia, they can be sandflies or, the small named, midgies. Both are in sandy areas and are usually prevalent from before sunset. With the midgies, sometimes you don't know you have been bitten until the welts and itches begin.
Jeff, nice job. My dad(rip) worked for Vico in the eighties,he would approve of your techniques.
Screen problem 1: The screen is parallel lines that need to be parallel to the frame. As you set the spline watch the screen is parallel and if you are off, pull it back to where it is parallel. Screen problem 2: The spline tool has 2 ends for different purposes. Only the rounded wheel will ensure the spline is fully seated. The spline is either hollow or a squishy solid center. Either way the end used by Jeff pushes on the outside of the spline. I suggest you start the first couple of inches and then switch to the rounded wheel. The spline track is deep enough to keep the wheel on the spline. If you find the wheel does not stay on the spline, then the spline probably isn't fully in the track. Problem 3: don't be gentle. It takes some force to fully seat the spline. It needs to be fully in the track and not flush with the frame.
This. Concave end first helps keep the spline in line, convex end second pushes the spline in, surprising how much deeper it can go, and it tensions the screen fully. Landlord with a couple decades of window screens/door screens, without fully seating them they can pull out readily and the more tension the better to not flap or bow like a shower curtain when the wind blows.
@@RJFerret The concave wheel's original use was for metal screens. If you ever pulled an old metal screen, you'd be surprised how stiff it is and I heard required so much force that you couldn't keep the convex wheel on the spline. You had to make 2 passes. I've only done a few but when you are taught by the guys who took pride in their work, they told you the full story. You reminded me about the other problem beginners have. Don't stretch the screen at all. The spline goes in about 1/4 inch on each side which stretches the nylon screen by 1/2 inch. Another recommendation for beginners is to use plastic spline tool. Metal spline tools easily cut screens if you slip.
Great video. Look to tackle the same type of project. When cleaning and prepping anything different if current paint on frame is chalky.
Hi Jeff. Beautiful job Jeff! What an incredible difference. Great video's. Your knowledge is just outstanding. Awesome! 👍👌
We have noseeums here in AK too. Their bites are just nasty. Most of our other critters to look out for are much larger.
I'm loving the flash backs 45:37
As a contractor/field tech, i appreciate this man's life hacks, but keep it in canada please. i need work
With this project , I finally understand why people would furnish an outside space and even hang indoor/outdoor curtains for the season .....something that makes little sense in a northern climate w/ a short warm season of only 4 months
I thought grinding disks where supposed to be installed with the painted disclaimers flipped around towards you (while grinding painted thing faces you). (I also know not to use cut off wheel as grinding disk, but I still use it sometimes lol..)
You're supposed to. Using the wrong disk and installing it backwards not only shortens the life of the disk but also has a higher chance of the disk fracturing and sending shrapnel everywhere. Diy shouldn't mean OSHA doesn't exist but people are people and who really cares..
I am very interested in the sheeting installation at the bottom of the wall. You did it so quickly I don’t quite get how to assemble the piece. I am trying to add a 6” kickplate to the bottom of my Florida screen room, I have the same extrusion I just need to know how I would measure up for the bottom piece to hold the kickplate and how to actually assemble the thing. I got the screening part fine. thanks for the tip about the spline.
We have NoSeeUms in Michigan also. It's common name is a Gnat. And yes they are ferocious little blood suckers.
The addition/not addition looks great now. Never liked lattice work higher than a foot.
Are you going to put a ceiling fan in your sun screened patio?
Jeff, I found the screening portion of the video very helpful, for the most part. I was disappointed when you began working on the bottom side of the first panel. I was waiting to see if you stretched the screen material when completing the bottom spline insertion. Unfortunately the the elevator music started blaring just at that point. So, having said all that, is there any stretching of the screen material required when inserting the spline in the bottom side of the opening? Thank you.
I am no expert, but as long as you don't wrinkles in the screen? It is all good! Stretching is NOT needed BTW. Otherwise you are risking other issues such as "tearing". There needs to be some give and take on the screen. Point and Fact "like" a automotive belt which needs 1/2' Deflection.
Just like Jeff said make sure to cut each piece a "wee" bit short for the corners. Never do it in one continuous spline. Ask me how I know that!! 😥😥
looking a lot better
Perfect Everytime
Where did you purchase your aluminum for the kick plates, Also item numbers if you have them. thanks George
Helped out a lot. Thank you
I have been contemplating screening in our porch. The existing posts are odd distances apart. I intend to even up the spaces by adding 2 posts and moving all but the corner posts. The railing is in bad shape, so that will be replaced in the process. I'm up in the air about the decking, as whether to refinish or replace.
Go for it! A screened porch is so nice to have.
I live in Oregon. We have "no see ems" here too.
I've installed 100s of pool enclosures/screen rooms. Ya got it done.. haha
Where to buy all these materials from?
Question- I have an old aluminum screen room 12 x 10 off the back of my house. I would like to take the screens out and have framed plexi glass panels put in to replace screens.. do you think that’s doable? There’s a 2 inch ledge around the screen frames…
My feet hurt just watching you work.
Hello jeff
In my country we don't use drywall but we use bricks
So i'm wondering if i can use drywall tape to finish inside corners
I live in Delaware, and we have those no seeums!
I have a wood framed front porch and an electric drill. What else do i need to install screening and a prefab door?
Hi Jeff. I have a job framing/screening in a front door landing with a screen door and I wanted to give the aluminum extrusion a try. Any idea where I can buy the EZ Screen aluminum framing in Ontario? I can only find it in Home Depot in the US. Other options?
I watched a short about your downspout screw stripped and you used the grinder. I lost it before I could comment. I do alot of art that requires torching g bubbles and make jewelry.. Use a creme Brule torch to the screw. It will aneal the metal and may loosen the grime holding the screw in so tight.
looks amazing ...
Hay Jeff I from Australia love work, however with the screens, the spline should be on the inside less easier to brake in, the why the window screen spline is on the in side 😊 O I am ned 👍
If you think the no-see-ums are funny, wait until love bug season.
Welcome to Florida Jeff, It's Great in the winter (except for traffic), sucks in the summer for any outdoor tradesman.
Can you do one on installing double pane windows?
Thanks Jeff. Wouldn't that drain hole counter all the no seam screening effort?
Midgies, mate that's what we call em' in Queensland, Australia. Ferocious little bastards.😮
Hi Jeff great DIY ,,looks good ..on that screen room that grove is for flat spline so it locks in Grove,,,,round will pull out ,,,but everything looks and explain things correctly...🌴😎
Thanks for the tip
@HomeRenoVisionDIY thanks for being there and showing them how too..🌴😎
I am curious who is your cameraman ? It isn't Max is It? I see Matt but not a lot.. Great instructions as always thanks and cheers!
shivering black bell thumbs up.
1:47 cause once you got a knife and a spline roller it's so ez 😂 until your 20 feet up with nothing but concrete below ❤
Lots of no see um bugs in Texas!
Watching Jeff work with Harbor Freight instead of his Dewalt and Craftsman tools is messing with my head. At least he still has his impact driver!
Happy fourth of july Jeff to you and your family, I see you're still working at the house in florida. Are you Remodeling that house So you can relocate from Canada to there.
A note about getting the correct spline size. The thickness of the screen will affect the size of the spline. How do I know? I replaced a section with what turned out to be a thicker screen. The spline size I had used wasn’t seating in the track. Fortunately, I had also purchased a package of spline that was the next smaller size. That size was perfect for the new screen.
when did you film this? I'm curious because it's so hot in the south, I sweat so much, if it were me in your place, I'd look as if someone had been constantly soaking me with a water hose.
Nice Work :)
We've got no see ums too in Texas along with chiggers. I had to Google it when I moved here from California. It's on all good bug poison products, 😂
what kihd of paint u did to the aluminum? mines peeling off after a year
I am sure he is aware that his "grinding" wheel is actually a cut off wheel. By using it to grind you are thinning out the wheel, when you go to cut something with the wheel it has a better chance of having a high speed come apart. Not to be a hypocrite, I catch myself doing it because it is convenient, but I do use my saftey squints all of the time.
Just curious, for those of us live manufactured homes, are you going to be showing any renovations inside this house.
He said he was in a previous video
OK wait. Did I miss something? How are the spline channels white? I'd expect them to still be original color after just surface painting with a roller.
In the south shore of NS but inland-- we grew up with no see ems.... wee bastards!
These days Im in eastern Ontario & the mosquitoes take chunks out of 1s arm!
Interior finishes are too rough for my taste. Will there be another video showing how to finish the interior?
Yes, soon
instead of cut head off might be easier to slice it and use a flatheaded screw driver
in nova scotia we got crabs and they bite
Why split the opening? Just keep as is with the large opening!
That's a lot prettier!!!
Very informative, thanks Jeff!
As a note, Simple Green works really well on Aluminum and if you cut it 50-50 with water, the gallon of concentrate (which is expensive admittedly) is really 2 gallons of cleaner.
For rusted screws, alternative to cutting the head off: Cut a slot in the head with an angle grinder and use a straight blade bit in the impact driver. Works great unless someone used stainless hardware on aluminum (they don't play nicely together - galvanic reaction) and you will break the screw before you get it out
almost trips and falls 1:14 I c u next time be more careful or else... OSHA
Why are you in Florida?!
because Ontario is on fire.
@@3rdPartyIntervener who are you lol
It’s a rule. If you are from Ontario or New York and get old and have money you either live in Florida during the winter or you move there.
We had a company, come in would put in just a new shower stall for $20,000.00.😢😢
Please clarify what you mean when you say the materials for a bathroom are 3k? The permit for a bath is about half that.. alone.
a "permit" is not "materials", unless you take a sh*t on the permit when you're done
@@3rdPartyIntervener A project permit is 100% a job cost. You only use it for that particular job and you don’t take it to another project… This is why most construction business fail. They haven’t learned how to run the numbers.
Are u in Zephyrhills by chance
I’ve never heard of that.
the spray nozzle on your hose twists out at the end to fan the spray pattern.
This would’ve been a great time to throw a laser to line up the bars without having to eyeball every piece. Just saying
30:00 Cut on concreate crack next time, or at least put piece of cardboard down.
No screen known to man will stop an arachnid (starship trooper type)
mu gu's in upstate N.Y.
Dude use a 4-ft level not a torpedo level
Question... Do you live in the united states and if so what's your secret to getting in so damn quick
Dude don't use cutoff wheels for grinding please
More importantly, don't teach neophytes to go against the manual's warning to not use the side of cut off blades as they can shatter. Also keeping body parts and others out of the line of fire is advisable especially when doing extra risk. I'm happy to not use certain protections or do things within my ability others might not, but rotary blades spin fast with lots of force and do break.
My cheap ass would’ve reused the screen
I love most of these videos but you need to breathe you always sound out of breath.