Yes but use as a detail sander, with this attachment this tool.actually shines The way the motor and vibration is calibrated does amazing work in this application
Impressive. That's probably the best drill out then. Luckily, i picked up four 4 amp hour 36v batteries on sale a month ago for 76 bucks each at menards.
I saw that old model at a clearout sale of a local hardware store. And decided to stack up some ammo(?) for it for next year since my home has flagstone stairs in the backyard. But I guess the wait needs to be extended for that new one. O_o Safety feature! This is why I was not getting DeWalt ones even though they were on sale.
That’s the same kind of deal that had me picking up the first gen of 36v. That short of sale almost seems routine with Metabo HPT and really improves the value proposition. I really wish they would come out with a new flagship DEWALT that would modernize their top drill. Lacking anti-kickback is just one example of that.
There are things I love about the 996/998/999 but at this point it’s a 2015 design externally. Love the power, love the 3 speed gear box but just craving some modernization.
I saw this drill online awhile ago, and it looks impressive. I mean, with a lifetime warranty and the ability to use an AC adapter makes it a great tool. Then you add the reliability of Metabo (Hitachi), and you really have a winner. They finally redesigned the awkward auxiliary handle, too. The only downside, for me, is the price. You can get a Flex, Milwaukee or Dewalt for about the same price with an impact driver included.
Keep in mind when they were brand new tools you weren’t getting them on deals and discounts. For a 2 battery kit this is pretty price competitive with standard, non sale pricing.
I love my DV18DE compact drill and WH18DC triple hammer. I made my own combo kit of the two when they ran a money off deal at Acme Tools. For me the ergonomics and feel can’t be beaten. I’ll look forward to owning this new drill as it looks superb. A very underrated brand offering unbeatable comfort and ergonomics for me.
I’ve always been interested in the HPT 36v tools. But in my area they are hard to find. And I’m one of those that likes to handle something before purchasing. That being said the option to plug the tool in to the adapter has always had me wanting to get the Grinder at the very least. I had no idea HPT even put out an updated tool, the lack of new tools and refreshments to the line have always kept me away. However I would love to see this tool compete against the DCD998, 2904-20, LXT and XGT. Also I’d be curious to see if the power adapter would hinder it performance compared to it just running on battery.
I don’t have the power adapter and don’t have any immediate plans to get it. Don’t currently have the 998 but the 999 will serve to illustrate how they compare.
I messed up about a year or so ago, I was at Lowe’s and the were clearanceing all the HPT 36v stuff off. I regret not getting the grinder and the power adapter. They were doing a crazy good BOGO to get rid of the stuff to make room for the Flex brand.
Will get this DRILL for my UA-cam CHANNEL soon has it goes onSale just picked up the Previous gen at Menards a couple weeks put the NEW ONE AGAINST the RIDGID HIGH TQ HAMMER DRILL 1250 inch pounds
Nice, the biggest thing I think is the change to the anti-kickback to make it actually trigger with a gyro sensor and not simply the bit/motor binding like the previous gen. I've used the old model for probaby hundreds of hours drilling out top plates and studs for residential electrical and while it's a tank that can drill through anything, the RFC sensor gets cold feet in certain situations like when you hit a nail or right before it busts through the back of the hole. While the drill COULD do it with zero problems and not kick back, the sensor can't know that so it stops. Like in your tests with the switchblade bit, it totally could have kept going but the sensor didn't like it. Now with a better anti-kickback system and higher torque as the cherry on top this is the best drill. Makita XGT level performance for like 1/3rd of the price, that's the Metabo HPT advantage.
I think the Milwaukee gen3 and gen4 have some drawbacks compared to the 2 Hikoki you have here. I dont know if its because of their small size, but try mixing thinset or concrete with the m18. They simply can't handle it, but these 36v drills handle it with ease, in either speed. If you get the Japanese kit for this, you get the bluetooth link/batteries and can adjust the drill's settings on the app, similar to the newer triple hammer
That's pretty typical with Metabo HPT. They way their warranty works as I understand is that on most of their cordless tools they have a lifetime warranty on the tool as long as they are making the tool. So they tend to keep older models in production on the website for quite a while after they have a replacement.
HPT is definitely a professional grade tool brand. I have their 12", sliding compound miter saw. I don't like it when the top drill offering does not have metal transmission housing, though.
@@DiligentDave1966 I think that's to do with the (electric?) brake, but seems there are some pins that can be removed and defeat it. They still stop quickly, they are not freewheeling.
Hi, just fyi this video didn't show up in my sub feed in yt app Edit - ok it is here now. Looks like a decent improvement, more modern and decent power level, too bad it is still only 2200rpm. Would love to see it vs xgt and bosch ofc :)
There really aren’t that many drills that top 2200 rpm (Makita XGT, flex in turbo mode, one Metabo model) so I think sometimes they just don’t push it. But it is a nice improvement. And those drills are both already on this list.
Please do a video comparing all the following drills in a "mega-comparison": HTP triple hammer 36v, HTP 18v, Makita xph14, Makita 40v, 2904, 2804, 998, 999, Flex, Festool.
I can’t promise I will have all of those because there are a few I don’t own but I’ll see what I can do. Will likely be one of the first videos of the new year.
@TinkerWithTools Thanks! Also, at the end of that video, please describe scenarios where you would choose (for various reasons) to buy a tool that ranks lower on the "speed" category. For example: My XPH14 is slightly slower than my 998, 2804, 2904. However, I rank it higher because it is more reliable, more ergonomic and does everything I need it to do in almost (although not quite) the same speed.
Not trying to bash Makita, but they're really going to have to figure out a way to justify their LXT prices with all these competitors putting out these insanely good 18v drills lately. Milwaukee and Flex's latest drills are unreal, it's only a matter of time until Dewalt replaces their dcd996/991 drills, and then these prosumer brands putting out new compact and high torque drills. Who knows, maybe Makita will just focus on their XGT line..
Is the trigger action smooth? When slowly depressing the trigger, are there any noticeable stages? DeWalt's big cordless drills have one noticeable stage at about 3/4 of the trigger press. The Flex I just bought has SEVERAL stages when going from 0 to full RPM. Thanks. Makita advertises their 40v drill trigger action as "ultra-smooth".
Certainly looks to be a big improvement. I have had the previous version for years now. And I really tried to like it. Seems to lack for its massive size. I have and like a lot of HPT tools. But I just don't grab that 36v anymore. Let's just say that I have 3 different Makita XGT drills and I use them constantly. Perhaps this new HTP can compete.
I have three different models. The original hammer drill. The non hammer drill version, And the compact Hammer drill version (Actually about the same size but manual clutch with less torque). I got the Original in the 4 tool combo. And the other 2 I found deals with free battery.
@TinkerWithTools either way man thank you I'm sure you don't realize how much metabo hpt fans appreciate your channel for giving honest reviews about they're tools.
If you look across videos where I drive both fasteners for some reasons the 8” timberloks just really zip in. I don’t know the reason. They aren’t even the same fasteners each time. But it’s been consistent across different tools and different videos. One of life’s great mysteries I guess.
Also just want to point out anyone interested you can get this tool with 2 36v batteries and charger at acme right now for 225 before tax with theyre promotion.
Thanks for point it out. Just to clarify, to get the full 75 off with that promotion, you do have to spend 1 dollar more to get it over the 300. One of the cheaper items I found to do this was a drywall dimple bit set that was like 6.99
is that new one made in japan? ive alway ranked hikoki as one of the best in build quality but there old made in japan tools are very good even by todays standards
@@TinkerWithToolsI'm on both the multivolt and xgt platforms and went with this partially because the kickback control seems to work better than the xgt. Torque specs are higher than the xgt but the speeds are slower so it would be interesting to see how that plays out in practice.
@@danwatts8269 curious as to why you are on both of those platforms? Is it just for the tools or does price come into play? I was thinking about getting into metabo hpt just so that I had a more affordable platform option. All my everyday stuff is milwaukee but I considered metabo hpt for if I needed a bigger tools that I didn't use super often. Like for rotary hammers or grinders that I didn't feel like paying milwaukee prices for because they won't be getting used and abused all the time.
When it comes to "the nice to use" you just cant beat the Japanese brands
I agree
@@TinkerWithTools when will we see the 36v vs the competition?
can't wait to see it compared to the competition
We need a new Metabo 18v multi tool
Yes but use as a detail sander, with this attachment this tool.actually shines
The way the motor and vibration is calibrated does amazing work in this application
Impressive. That's probably the best drill out then. Luckily, i picked up four 4 amp hour 36v batteries on sale a month ago for 76 bucks each at menards.
You got an incredible deal! I’m sad there isn’t a Menards in my area.
I love menards honestly. I got the ac adapter for 76 yesterday aswell yesterday.
I saw that old model at a clearout sale of a local hardware store. And decided to stack up some ammo(?) for it for next year since my home has flagstone stairs in the backyard.
But I guess the wait needs to be extended for that new one. O_o
Safety feature! This is why I was not getting DeWalt ones even though they were on sale.
That’s the same kind of deal that had me picking up the first gen of 36v. That short of sale almost seems routine with Metabo HPT and really improves the value proposition.
I really wish they would come out with a new flagship DEWALT that would modernize their top drill. Lacking anti-kickback is just one example of that.
Agreed. Since my main tool ecosystem is DeWalt, I would also consider it heavily if they release some high end version of DCD800/805.
There are things I love about the 996/998/999 but at this point it’s a 2015 design externally. Love the power, love the 3 speed gear box but just craving some modernization.
I saw this drill online awhile ago, and it looks impressive.
I mean, with a lifetime warranty and the ability to use an AC adapter makes it a great tool. Then you add the reliability of Metabo (Hitachi), and you really have a winner.
They finally redesigned the awkward auxiliary handle, too.
The only downside, for me, is the price. You can get a Flex, Milwaukee or Dewalt for about the same price with an impact driver included.
Keep in mind when they were brand new tools you weren’t getting them on deals and discounts. For a 2 battery kit this is pretty price competitive with standard, non sale pricing.
@@TinkerWithTools Good point.
I love my DV18DE compact drill and WH18DC triple hammer. I made my own combo kit of the two when they ran a money off deal at Acme Tools. For me the ergonomics and feel can’t be beaten. I’ll look forward to owning this new drill as it looks superb. A very underrated brand offering unbeatable comfort and ergonomics for me.
Agreed - MHPT ergonomics are outstanding.
This drill is an improvement in that area in my opinion.
I’ve always been interested in the HPT 36v tools. But in my area they are hard to find. And I’m one of those that likes to handle something before purchasing. That being said the option to plug the tool in to the adapter has always had me wanting to get the Grinder at the very least. I had no idea HPT even put out an updated tool, the lack of new tools and refreshments to the line have always kept me away.
However I would love to see this tool compete against the DCD998, 2904-20, LXT and XGT. Also I’d be curious to see if the power adapter would hinder it performance compared to it just running on battery.
I don’t have the power adapter and don’t have any immediate plans to get it. Don’t currently have the 998 but the 999 will serve to illustrate how they compare.
I messed up about a year or so ago, I was at Lowe’s and the were clearanceing all the HPT 36v stuff off. I regret not getting the grinder and the power adapter. They were doing a crazy good BOGO to get rid of the stuff to make room for the Flex brand.
There are those tools that get away and leave me filled with regret too.
Metabo is di best ...
its a good looking tool. i wasnt a really big fan of how the older tools green/black and grey looked but the newer tools look a lot nicer
I didn’t mind the older tools but I do think the new ones look nicer.
They used to make a good reliable tool, got a bunch of the old corded tools. Hitachi air tools have been great for me as well.
I agree.
Will get this DRILL for my UA-cam CHANNEL soon has it goes onSale just picked up the Previous gen at Menards a couple weeks put the NEW ONE AGAINST the RIDGID HIGH TQ HAMMER DRILL 1250 inch pounds
I’ll put it on the list.
Great video - looks like another home run from Metabo. Their products are always great.
Agreed!
Nice, the biggest thing I think is the change to the anti-kickback to make it actually trigger with a gyro sensor and not simply the bit/motor binding like the previous gen. I've used the old model for probaby hundreds of hours drilling out top plates and studs for residential electrical and while it's a tank that can drill through anything, the RFC sensor gets cold feet in certain situations like when you hit a nail or right before it busts through the back of the hole. While the drill COULD do it with zero problems and not kick back, the sensor can't know that so it stops. Like in your tests with the switchblade bit, it totally could have kept going but the sensor didn't like it. Now with a better anti-kickback system and higher torque as the cherry on top this is the best drill. Makita XGT level performance for like 1/3rd of the price, that's the Metabo HPT advantage.
The newer drill is a nice improvement in almost every way. I really like it.
I think the Milwaukee gen3 and gen4 have some drawbacks compared to the 2 Hikoki you have here. I dont know if its because of their small size, but try mixing thinset or concrete with the m18. They simply can't handle it, but these 36v drills handle it with ease, in either speed.
If you get the Japanese kit for this, you get the bluetooth link/batteries and can adjust the drill's settings on the app, similar to the newer triple hammer
Never understood why they don’t bring over those batteries.
They still list the prior version on their website, for some reason they haven't discontinued it.
That's pretty typical with Metabo HPT. They way their warranty works as I understand is that on most of their cordless tools they have a lifetime warranty on the tool as long as they are making the tool. So they tend to keep older models in production on the website for quite a while after they have a replacement.
HPT is definitely a professional grade tool brand. I have their 12", sliding compound miter saw. I don't like it when the top drill offering does not have metal transmission housing, though.
I have essentially the same saw but it was Hitachi when I bought it.
I hear the same clank in the Dewalt 999 when I let off the trigger. In fact, I hear it in a lot of drills.
Well it’s not in the newer drill at least.
@@TinkerWithTools I kinda hear it in the Milwaukee.
@@DiligentDave1966
I think that's to do with the (electric?) brake, but seems there are some pins that can be removed and defeat it. They still stop quickly, they are not freewheeling.
Hi, just fyi this video didn't show up in my sub feed in yt app
Edit - ok it is here now.
Looks like a decent improvement, more modern and decent power level, too bad it is still only 2200rpm.
Would love to see it vs xgt and bosch ofc :)
There really aren’t that many drills that top 2200 rpm (Makita XGT, flex in turbo mode, one Metabo model) so I think sometimes they just don’t push it. But it is a nice improvement. And those drills are both already on this list.
@@TinkerWithTools great, waiting for that one :)
Please do a video comparing all the following drills in a "mega-comparison": HTP triple hammer 36v, HTP 18v, Makita xph14, Makita 40v, 2904, 2804, 998, 999, Flex, Festool.
I can’t promise I will have all of those because there are a few I don’t own but I’ll see what I can do. Will likely be one of the first videos of the new year.
@TinkerWithTools Thanks! Also, at the end of that video, please describe scenarios where you would choose (for various reasons) to buy a tool that ranks lower on the "speed" category. For example: My XPH14 is slightly slower than my 998, 2804, 2904. However, I rank it higher because it is more reliable, more ergonomic and does everything I need it to do in almost (although not quite) the same speed.
Not trying to bash Makita, but they're really going to have to figure out a way to justify their LXT prices with all these competitors putting out these insanely good 18v drills lately. Milwaukee and Flex's latest drills are unreal, it's only a matter of time until Dewalt replaces their dcd996/991 drills, and then these prosumer brands putting out new compact and high torque drills. Who knows, maybe Makita will just focus on their XGT line..
I don’t think LXT is going anywhere or getting discontinued but I think when it comes to their drill, the XGT is where it’s at for a while now.
Is the trigger action smooth? When slowly depressing the trigger, are there any noticeable stages? DeWalt's big cordless drills have one noticeable stage at about 3/4 of the trigger press. The Flex I just bought has SEVERAL stages when going from 0 to full RPM. Thanks.
Makita advertises their 40v drill trigger action as "ultra-smooth".
Makita has some of the best triggers in my opinion.
Certainly looks to be a big improvement. I have had the previous version for years now. And I really tried to like it. Seems to lack for its massive size. I have and like a lot of HPT tools. But I just don't grab that 36v anymore. Let's just say that I have 3 different Makita XGT drills and I use them constantly. Perhaps this new HTP can compete.
Three of the same XGT drills or different models. I don’t think you need to feel bad about using XGT. It’s a really nice drill.
I have three different models. The original hammer drill. The non hammer drill version, And the compact Hammer drill version (Actually about the same size but manual clutch with less torque). I got the Original in the 4 tool combo. And the other 2 I found deals with free battery.
Great video as usual.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Hey sorry if you mentioned it but have you made a video comparing it to the other top hammer drills?
It’s on my list of things to do. Just haven’t gotten to it yet. It’s possible it will be next week.
@TinkerWithTools either way man thank you I'm sure you don't realize how much metabo hpt fans appreciate your channel for giving honest reviews about they're tools.
Glad to help!
Why do you think the 6'' TimberLOK took longer to drive than the 8'' one?
If you look across videos where I drive both fasteners for some reasons the 8” timberloks just really zip in. I don’t know the reason. They aren’t even the same fasteners each time. But it’s been consistent across different tools and different videos. One of life’s great mysteries I guess.
@@TinkerWithTools I think its because the 8 in thread length is longer and therefore has more threading force distribution.
Also just want to point out anyone interested you can get this tool with 2 36v batteries and charger at acme right now for 225 before tax with theyre promotion.
Thanks for point it out. Just to clarify, to get the full 75 off with that promotion, you do have to spend 1 dollar more to get it over the 300. One of the cheaper items I found to do this was a drywall dimple bit set that was like 6.99
@@TinkerWithTools yes I forgot i had to add a 5 dollar bottle of air tool oil to get the 75 off, awesome deal
Is the 36 volt triple hammer impact driver any good?
I have a video on the hikoki version of the bolt and I’m testing it doesn’t perform better than the new 18v bolt. They are all similar though.
@@TinkerWithTools Is there any 36v besides the bolt?
The reason I’m asking is that Lowe’s has the 36v triple hammer on clearance.
What’s the price?
@@TinkerWithTools It’s around $70 with the batteries and charger, regularly like $200.
@@TinkerWithTools Is the regular 36v triple hammer any good?
Nice review. How is the Milwaukee tote working out for you?
Love everything about it, except the top strap sags a little funny. But it’s a minor thing. I’ll have to do an update soon about it.
Much rather have the 18v if I have the option that way I have more battery choice
The newest 18v is currently back ordered for a month but when it becomes more available I will test it.
is that new one made in japan? ive alway ranked hikoki as one of the best in build quality but there old made in japan tools are very good even by todays standards
It is made in China. I believe that is where the majority of their tools are made now.
hitachi nr 1
Have you ever had a problem with the old auxiliary handle?
Not really but that doesn’t mean I like it.
Which is faster dv36dc or 2904?
In my testing, it's typically been the 2904 but both are nice strong drills.
The anti kickback on the Ridgid is ridiculously sensitive.
I like that on something like the Milwaukee you can turn it off.
Even the Bosch is that way. Also nice.
@@TinkerWithTools The Bosch 1330 has the ability to disable the anti kickback for sure.
Dewalt doesn’t even have anti kickback.
The title for me says "new triple hammer" instead of hammer drill
Thanks for pointing it out. It’s been fixed.
How does the new drill stack up against the xgt ?
I have that on the list to test.
@@TinkerWithToolsI'm on both the multivolt and xgt platforms and went with this partially because the kickback control seems to work better than the xgt. Torque specs are higher than the xgt but the speeds are slower so it would be interesting to see how that plays out in practice.
@@danwatts8269 curious as to why you are on both of those platforms? Is it just for the tools or does price come into play? I was thinking about getting into metabo hpt just so that I had a more affordable platform option. All my everyday stuff is milwaukee but I considered metabo hpt for if I needed a bigger tools that I didn't use super often. Like for rotary hammers or grinders that I didn't feel like paying milwaukee prices for because they won't be getting used and abused all the time.
@@devonboyer626 More for the tools than anything else
You talk too much man...