This is an absolute gold nugget of information. Thank you for sharing this to the world, as it has come to mean a lot more to me right now in what has been a difficult time for the past few years.
Great video and fantastic looking recipe! I have toyed with my own Tonic water here, also using grapefruit juice but was using dehydrated Quinine powder (0.04g per litre) and a 5 litre keg for the carbonisation. My challenge was packaging it in such a way as to keep the ‘fizz’ and short of a proper bottling or canning line, I could not keep it fizzy enough for making in batches. One thing I did note is that keeping your liquid as chilled as possible without creating any ice crystals, helps with the carbonisation, as does giving the mix a periodic shake during the carbonisation process.
Ah yes, I've ended up carbonating mine each day a few hours before I use it now, to have it as fizzy as possible. I do the same thing, really chill the tonic water as far as I can, carbonate and shake while carbonating, then let it rest and chill again before serving or decanting.
So, I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade but there was no mention of safety in the video. Cinchonism is a thing and can be pretty bad. If your guests are only having one glass you’re probably OK but quinine is highly toxic and using bark you have no idea what the final strength of the product is. Pure quinine is definitely a way to get around this issue BUT you have to be certain that it is food safe and that’s hard to acquire if you are not a commercial concern because it is a restricted substance due to it’s toxicity. If you are not using USP (food grade) quinine there could be other compounds you need to worry about. Interesting quinine facts - gram can kill three people. Some research suggests that many drug overdoses in the US are actually quinine overdoses as it is used to cut cocaine in in particular. It has a similar bitterness and reportedly increases the effect of the drugs… If someone overdoses they test for cocaine but they don’t as a matter of course test for quinine. You can read more about quinine on this website which is a good starting point for safety but obviously if you are selling this stuff you’ll want to broaden your own research and not trust the word of a guy/dog on the internet 😉 www.cocktailsafe.org/quinine-tonic-water-cinchona-bark.html Take care boys!
@@moodtherapist hi Rich, I do have the safety data and calculations here. Based on typical quinine extraction from chinchina you would have to drink over 30 litres of this tonic water before you got to the low end of the range where people can start to experience symptoms of cinchonism. Oh course people should exercise caution, but I personally serve a 150ml serving of this, so if someone wanted to have the 200 g&t’s they’d need to get them to 30 litres I would have bigger worries than just the quinine. However I am just making this to serve a single drink, if I was scaling up to larger production I would probably look at using pure quinine to get extremely exact measures.
Sure, I'' try to do something focused on it at some point but basically I rent a small CO'2 tank like you'd have in a bar. In the UK BOC are there company I use for this, they let you bring it back and swap it for a full new one when you finish it, but they last for ages for me. Then I have that connected to a regulator and from that a hose that runs to a special connector that works with screw top carbonation caps. So I screw a carbonation cap onto a 2 litre plastic bottle, clip on my connector and carbonate it that way. I'll try to find time to do a video with more detail, I would bet there are already some similar videos up on UA-cam too
Can anyone give me the set up for carbonating drinks like the one he uses ? If you have all the links for the different parts you are awesome amazon will be the best, oh I do have the CO2 can already. Thanks
@@AlexanderKEmery they are great, you'll love it. I have the old one but I haver ordered the new one too just in case they never make them again after this. I'd be gutted if mine ever broke
Thank you for sharing this recipe. It was hard for me to follow as I had to convert grams to cups. And what’s on the video seems different from the listed recipe itself. 😳 I will see what the results will be tomorrow. 8/26/22
Let me now how it goes. I measure everything in grams for accuracy, even liquids, but you can covert them if that suits you better, it just wont be as precise. In the video I was making a very large batch, this is the batch size I make professionally, but I scaled the recipe down to a smaller more reasonable size in the description - it is exactly the same but just a smaller batch :)
Americans had problems with converting grams even before the invention of metric system. It's in their genes. Also, writing dates in a completely illogical way. 2024/08/28.
In the description I give the recipe breakdown for how to make the tonic base which is concentrated and you then dilute with water & carbonate. So you can follow that ratio and add sparkling water from your soda stream instead of the plain water & finish with fresh lime as in the description. You will need to keep the undiluted tonic base mix in the fridge.
Yes, please! A simpler version would be wonderful. I would love to try this with allulose or some other sugar substitute.
This is an absolute gold nugget of information. Thank you for sharing this to the world, as it has come to mean a lot more to me right now in what has been a difficult time for the past few years.
Oh thank you so much, that’s such a lovely compliment :)
@@EddieShepherd
Great video! Loved the attention to every detail. Lots of steps in the recipe but not impossible to recreate. Subscribed! 😍
Thanks so much 😊
Although I stressed out making it, it was delicious! Thank you! My husband likes it.
Great video and fantastic looking recipe! I have toyed with my own Tonic water here, also using grapefruit juice but was using dehydrated Quinine powder (0.04g per litre) and a 5 litre keg for the carbonisation. My challenge was packaging it in such a way as to keep the ‘fizz’ and short of a proper bottling or canning line, I could not keep it fizzy enough for making in batches.
One thing I did note is that keeping your liquid as chilled as possible without creating any ice crystals, helps with the carbonisation, as does giving the mix a periodic shake during the carbonisation process.
Ah yes, I've ended up carbonating mine each day a few hours before I use it now, to have it as fizzy as possible. I do the same thing, really chill the tonic water as far as I can, carbonate and shake while carbonating, then let it rest and chill again before serving or decanting.
So, I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade but there was no mention of safety in the video. Cinchonism is a thing and can be pretty bad. If your guests are only having one glass you’re probably OK but quinine is highly toxic and using bark you have no idea what the final strength of the product is. Pure quinine is definitely a way to get around this issue BUT you have to be certain that it is food safe and that’s hard to acquire if you are not a commercial concern because it is a restricted substance due to it’s toxicity. If you are not using USP (food grade) quinine there could be other compounds you need to worry about. Interesting quinine facts - gram can kill three people. Some research suggests that many drug overdoses in the US are actually quinine overdoses as it is used to cut cocaine in in particular. It has a similar bitterness and reportedly increases the effect of the drugs… If someone overdoses they test for cocaine but they don’t as a matter of course test for quinine. You can read more about quinine on this website which is a good starting point for safety but obviously if you are selling this stuff you’ll want to broaden your own research and not trust the word of a guy/dog on the internet 😉 www.cocktailsafe.org/quinine-tonic-water-cinchona-bark.html Take care boys!
@@moodtherapist very valid point - thank you.
@@moodtherapist hi Rich, I do have the safety data and calculations here. Based on typical quinine extraction from chinchina you would have to drink over 30 litres of this tonic water before you got to the low end of the range where people can start to experience symptoms of cinchonism. Oh course people should exercise caution, but I personally serve a 150ml serving of this, so if someone wanted to have the 200 g&t’s they’d need to get them to 30 litres I would have bigger worries than just the quinine. However I am just making this to serve a single drink, if I was scaling up to larger production I would probably look at using pure quinine to get extremely exact measures.
Really cool video, the level of dedication is amazing!
Thanks a lot!
Ooo yes! This looked amazing. Would love to give this a crack!
it makes really great tonic water. There recipe is a fir few steps but very doable or you could skip the clarified grapefruit for a simplified version
@@EddieShepherd no way! I would do it the exact way you did it! I have you edible cocktail ebook and they were delicious!
This was exceptional! Th aka so much for sharing! 🙌👍😊🙏
Thank you :)
Aweesome! Also love the medicinal/cultural background story. It brings attention to the initial concept (the herbs).so cool :)
Totally Amazing. Thank you.
Interesting. Thanks for the video and ideas.
Thanks for watching!
Interesting video. Would like to try make it. A simplified version would be welcome.
Thanks :) I'm going to work on a simplified quick version to put out soon
I would love a dulled down/simplified version of this recipe
I'll try to do one in the next couple of months. :)
A simpler version...Yes!!❤
Thanks
Wow…..amazing.Please do a simplified version.
Quinine is almost insoluble in water (about 0.05 g per 100 ml water) but it is readily soluble in ethanol.
Hey, please tell us more or make a video about your carbonation setup
Sure, I'' try to do something focused on it at some point but basically I rent a small CO'2 tank like you'd have in a bar. In the UK BOC are there company I use for this, they let you bring it back and swap it for a full new one when you finish it, but they last for ages for me. Then I have that connected to a regulator and from that a hose that runs to a special connector that works with screw top carbonation caps. So I screw a carbonation cap onto a 2 litre plastic bottle, clip on my connector and carbonate it that way. I'll try to find time to do a video with more detail, I would bet there are already some similar videos up on UA-cam too
Do you think that there is an interesting replacement for the chinchona bark powder?
A friend of mine did a version using chicory for the bitter element
I would love a simpler version if you would be up for that!
Definitely, I have one in the works that will be a quick simple version
Holy shit dude... you are awesome!
Me too.
Yumm!! 🥂
Can anyone give me the set up for carbonating drinks like the one he uses ? If you have all the links for the different parts you are awesome amazon will be the best, oh I do have the CO2 can already. Thanks
I’ll do a video on it at some point. You need a regulator & carbonation caps, I think there should be other UA-cam videos on it for now
Basic tonic water please. I am Keto and would make these recipes with pure allulose instead of sugar.
I use Truvia.
Yes please Tonic water simple Version
hi! can grape juice be replaced by other citrics ? 🤔
Hi, you could change the grapefruit juice for other juice but you may need to adjust the acidity / sweetness of the finished tonic
@@EddieShepherd Thanks for the reply!
Sorry, what powder do you add onto the grapefuit juice?
That is agar that’s used to lightly set it
@@EddieShepherd Ah ok, thank you 🙏
Are you getting a Spinzall?
I have one, there should be a video on it coming either next video or the one after
Great! I bought one and an waiting on delivery this winter I think
@@AlexanderKEmery they are great, you'll love it. I have the old one but I haver ordered the new one too just in case they never make them again after this. I'd be gutted if mine ever broke
Thank you for sharing this recipe. It was hard for me to follow as I had to convert grams to cups. And what’s on the video seems different from the listed recipe itself. 😳 I will see what the results will be tomorrow. 8/26/22
Let me now how it goes. I measure everything in grams for accuracy, even liquids, but you can covert them if that suits you better, it just wont be as precise. In the video I was making a very large batch, this is the batch size I make professionally, but I scaled the recipe down to a smaller more reasonable size in the description - it is exactly the same but just a smaller batch :)
Americans had problems with converting grams even before the invention of metric system. It's in their genes. Also, writing dates in a completely illogical way. 2024/08/28.
Exctually the cuick metode...we just go to mini market🤝
Be Ton!
I liked the video, but yes, please give us a simplified recipe...
PS, just a tonic syrup as I would prefer just adding it to a can of seltzer water.
Thanks I will work on it asap
@@EddieShepherd Thanks, so much. Is there a way to let all of us here know when the the new video posts?
@@sundial. If you make sure you are subscribed to the channel and you like the little bell icon under my video you'll get notifications of new videos
Ok this looks great but how would you modify it to make a syrup?
I set up a soda water tap so I would just want to add it to the soda water.
In the description I give the recipe breakdown for how to make the tonic base which is concentrated and you then dilute with water & carbonate. So you can follow that ratio and add sparkling water from your soda stream instead of the plain water & finish with fresh lime as in the description. You will need to keep the undiluted tonic base mix in the fridge.