Asylum: Final Word

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2023
  • It's been a while since I talked about Alice: Asylum and questions keep appearing in my comments so... a few final words.
    The Alice: Asylum Discord Server is still up and running - so if you want a place to continue your conversations, that's a fine place to start. Details for joining it are over on the (now hibernated) Patreon page: / americanmcgee
    You will also find that the final posts to Patreon contain answers to other Frequently Asked Questions.
    As always, I am incredibly grateful to the Alice community for their years of support. And I hope everyone has a happy future.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 778

  • @jcrebel18
    @jcrebel18 9 місяців тому +1834

    This feels like a tragedy, but I blame EA and not you.

    • @Sharpzee
      @Sharpzee 9 місяців тому

      @@user-zl1ov9ql1t They are interested but that interest isnt big enough for EA because there wouldnt be giant profits like in the examples you said of EA FC and COD sadly

    • @karlosalazar7105
      @karlosalazar7105 9 місяців тому

      ​@@user-zl1ov9ql1tnah, the views on YT, TikTok, Twitter, the support on Patreon, the donations American got online and the online communities built just for this game proves that gamers are interested..

    • @icravedeath.1200
      @icravedeath.1200 9 місяців тому

      ​@@user-zl1ov9ql1tthat's not true and you know it

    • @sky0kast0
      @sky0kast0 9 місяців тому +11

      Thats a minority even though you think that's all your friends do

  • @auraweiss638
    @auraweiss638 9 місяців тому +1171

    "Imagine if in the future my fans can create what i was not allowed to" is a heartbreaking but heartwarming sentence.

    • @woohoo2491
      @woohoo2491 9 місяців тому +14

      IF ONLY HE RELEASED ANY OF THE MODDING TOOLS FOR ANY OF HIS GAMES

    • @sofa9933
      @sofa9933 9 місяців тому +19

      this is exactly what I want to work on, gather fans and work further from the bible we have been given, whether that is in game form, art, music, animation and slapping it all together and just sharing our love for these games, I'm so grateful for these games and how they have helped me heal, I don't want to let go just yet, I want to be able to say thank you in my own way.

    • @kurisuchiinathecrocodile333
      @kurisuchiinathecrocodile333 8 місяців тому +11

      @@woohoo2491 its possible to make custom maps and skins for first game, people were doing it for years. There is, i think, one "campaign" in development, but not sure if it will be finished or not. called "dreamland" or smth like that. as for a:mr, it uses non-very-moddable engine (unlike first game), so for that one you cant

    • @noobzinhobr2880
      @noobzinhobr2880 5 місяців тому +2

      I do hope people get this sentence fr!!! I'm not able of doing anything, am miss appointed with myself. I just can imagine but imagining is not enough this passion for the game is real and unfortunately we'll need to wait till some good-hearted one decide to create and develop something like this

    • @JoyLuna
      @JoyLuna 5 місяців тому

      Hii! So far I have done the Alice Asylum soundtrack that got me to work with the team itself🐈‍⬛ it's available on my channel @@sofa9933

  • @darthcracker
    @darthcracker 9 місяців тому +2330

    You didn’t fail us, EA failed you. They rejected this Masterpiece because it won’t be a live action open world fortnite clown. Gaming is dead and people with Visions have been pushed aside. I’m so sorry this happened to you.

    • @saikick.
      @saikick. 9 місяців тому +54

      Literally this

    • @darthcracker
      @darthcracker 9 місяців тому +18

      Clone*

    • @pokemasterzelda8291
      @pokemasterzelda8291 9 місяців тому +68

      @@darthcracker honestly you could've left clown in there and I would've accepted it still

    • @RobbYarber
      @RobbYarber 9 місяців тому +48

      We'll still have Independent developers putting out amazing pieces of art, while companies like EA will go extinct like the dinosaurs they are.

    • @_Amadeus14
      @_Amadeus14 9 місяців тому +49

      Gaming isn't dead. Triple-A side of it is fading away, especially for the bigger companies like EA, Ubisoft. There is less and less vision in there, all the games they produce (not create), are just products. The future is clearly in the independent studios, small or big ones.
      Stating that "gaming is dead" is the saddest tendency I see in the community. People just lose all the hope there is, and can't move on from the fact that some of the most beloved franchises in the industry became nothing more than infinite cashbags. This is literally the reality we live in. You either get over it, and maybe even fight it, become a better creator yourself, or you just give up and cry about it till the rest of your life. The choice is yours.

  • @Vexillifer
    @Vexillifer 9 місяців тому +654

    It's a shame. You're a true legend, McGee.

  • @simpleplanfan011
    @simpleplanfan011 9 місяців тому +824

    This whole situation still hurts so much. EA really screwed up here. If they make an Alice game without you after this, I will not be buying it. I’m just happy to see you and your family doing well and enjoying your time together. That is infinitely more important than the game x

    • @kierabt224
      @kierabt224 9 місяців тому +24

      Yar a family is the one thing that EA can't take away

    • @karmachameleon7148
      @karmachameleon7148 9 місяців тому +6

      ❤❤❤

  • @NotMorganFreeman.
    @NotMorganFreeman. 9 місяців тому +654

    I thought you had made this abundantly clear multiple times. It has to be exhausting to repeat it over and over. As an Alice fan of 23 years, I will continue to play Alice and Madness Returns and enjoy what we have. Thank you for what you have contributed. All the best to you and your family.

    • @M00nberryPie
      @M00nberryPie 8 місяців тому +17

      Yep. I heard this news a looooong time ago from keeping up with his channel. And every time I hear about it again it reopens the wound. If my heart is this shattered by the news I can't imagine how he feels as the creator. It is beyond devastating

  • @pokemasterzelda8291
    @pokemasterzelda8291 9 місяців тому +410

    This breaks my heart to know EA would so firmly reject this. Perhaps in due time, be it months or decades, things may change so that Alice Asylum could be realized. It is a hair thin ray of hope, but it is a hope I will hold onto.
    My best wishes to you, Mr. McGee. The Alice series truly changed us all. May it live on in our hearts.

    • @dasnurk
      @dasnurk 9 місяців тому +32

      Abandon that hope! A new law reigns in this wonderland Alice, it's very rough justice all around.

    • @Kobalt_Rax_the_one
      @Kobalt_Rax_the_one 2 місяці тому +1

      Decades ? I would die before then , so no it shouldn't be that long . Either way this sucks .

  • @RobbYarber
    @RobbYarber 9 місяців тому +445

    This is why copyright law needs to be reformed with hard set limits, such as after 10, 15, or 20 years the IP automatically enters the Public Domain, so that companies can't do like EA is and sitting on it but not doing anything with it.

    • @KnotsOfWonders
      @KnotsOfWonders 9 місяців тому +88

      I don't get it, why does EA just let the IP rot instead of letting you know.. the creator to create more products and thus more money for both the developer and publisher? This is a good lesson for devs not to sell their IPs to corporations.

    • @______________5470
      @______________5470 9 місяців тому +32

      @@_DeadEnd_ yeah they think they're running a bank or something with the amount of money they want flowing around

    • @gamedoutgamer
      @gamedoutgamer 9 місяців тому +17

      From what it sounds like this has nothing to do with copyright law. Has to do with the agreement he signed with EA.

    • @StarkRG
      @StarkRG 9 місяців тому +34

      @@gamedoutgamer It's partly to do with copyright law. Anyone can make an Alice in Wonderland story, but you can't use any of the characterizations used in the original games owned by EA. There's probably something in American's contract about it, but even if there wasn't, he'd be opening himself up to an easy lawsuit win from EA if he attempted it since those characterizations originated with him and anything he attempted would inevitably be similar.

    • @sircampbelltenson7297
      @sircampbelltenson7297 9 місяців тому +33

      Its funny really, take Disney for example, they've been twisting and stretching copyright law for so long to keep the mouse under their control

  • @WolfShroom
    @WolfShroom 9 місяців тому +123

    Damn. My older sister, who was a big fan of Alice and all things macabre, passed away in a crash caused by an underage drunk driver. Both of your Alice games helped me get through the worst time of my life. It's a shame to hear that EA has dropped the ball like this; hopefully we see Asylum in some capacity in the future.
    Live a good life.

    • @Nahobussyino
      @Nahobussyino 4 місяці тому +3

      I’m sorry for your loss, the Alice games are very important to me too and I hope that Alive Asylum will come out one day

  • @horrorjunkiehayne
    @horrorjunkiehayne 9 місяців тому +285

    This is heartbreaking. The beauty and creativity of the Alice games remains incredible all of these years later. Thank you for giving us these works of art.

  • @nannaogashawarmabrendan
    @nannaogashawarmabrendan 9 місяців тому +232

    Don't ever feel shame. EA should feel shame. EA failed you from achieving your goals. This community will, me included, wish you well and we hope that just like Alice you can move forward and live the rest of your life in fulfilling peace
    Edit: I didn't realize the rights from Alice was complicated. I thought it was public domain

    • @dhgmrz17
      @dhgmrz17 9 місяців тому +21

      It is public domain, but it sounds like his personal contract with EA is much more complicated. That said, anyone else could make an Alice in Wonderland game without EA approval, that said making a game too close to American Mcgee's Alice could get you into legal trouble. So the tricky thing is making a game that still falls under public domain without stepping into IP rights. Also even if you are 100% in the legal right, a company could still sue you and drain all your resources fighting a bogus lawsuit fight.

    • @humanoidrkangel
      @humanoidrkangel 9 місяців тому +22

      Its more of "his" version is locked behind EA. The original story that his is based off of is public but not his. sucks that EA refuses to believe that simple storytelling can make money. Just goes to show how far off the path AAA game companies are these days. Look at how much money Baldur's Gate 3 just pulled in. Single player story telling games are still something people love.

    • @kieranhair37
      @kieranhair37 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dhgmrz17 People who don't know anything about the law really love to throw this claim around. It's patently untrue. If you're confident that you haven't violated their copyright, you can request a summary judgment and the judge will compare the works without the suit ever going to trial, which will often result in your opponent having to pay your legal fees if the judge finds in your favor. This is how an overwhelming majority of IP lawsuits are resolved. If you request summary judgment and it does go to trial, it's because the judge found reason to believe that you knowingly did infringe on the IP in question and wants to examine the case further. And since he'd probably be right given the context of this conversation, there's really nothing to whine about.

    • @dhgmrz17
      @dhgmrz17 9 місяців тому +1

      @@kieranhair37 That still takes money, and not all indie developers even have the extra money to deal with that. Yes, you are correct that the winning party is awarded a reasonable sum to make for the legal fees afterwards. However this hurts the progress of development of the game, increasing fees that aren't resulted by just legal fees. You still have to pay employees or other development costs while the suit is on going. It's not like you can just request a summary and the next day the suit goes away, if the judge even grants it in the first place.

    • @kieranhair37
      @kieranhair37 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dhgmrz17 No, of course it takes time. The judge has to review both works. (Which, let's just take a moment to appreciate that part of being a copyright judge involves playing video games.) But if indie developers can't deal with that, they shouldn't bother copying IPs. Alice gave us two great games. Use some of the same themes and ideas to create something new. That's what copyright law is for. Not to simply punish copycats, but to inspire innovation. Read some IP cases overseen by Judge Learned Hand, he mentions this practically every time. We don't need a third Alice game. It would be nice, but just let Alice enjoy a peaceful life and punish some other poor protagonist. Take what you love about those games and roll it into something newer. That's the spirit of what these laws are for.

  • @moonwalkerangel7008
    @moonwalkerangel7008 9 місяців тому +248

    This is not your fault. This is EA’s fault as they did not see the merit or the support that the community had for you and the Alice Series. I had subscribed because I saw the concept and the ideas that you had for Alice. I had watched people play Alice Madness returns and I thought it was amazing. I think with EA’s track record is disgusting and I never have, nor will I support them because of their treatment to you. I did buy two Rabbit Plushies because I liked the designs and the fact you are amazing.

  • @theenigmabegins
    @theenigmabegins 9 місяців тому +163

    Sad news indeed, I'll never move on from Alice. You and your vision of her world have had a vast impact on my life both creatively and as a whole. I wish we could have been able to embark on the amazing journey that would have been Alice: Asylum. I hope this isn't the end for you, And I sincerely hope that you can distance yourself from EA in the future and eventually move on from them the way we must move on from this series. This is classic EA, And I hope this bites them in a way a potential flop in sales never could. I wish you well in your endeavors, Both current and in the future. And I'd like to thank you for everything over the years from the bottom of my heart, And I wish nothing but the best for you and your family. So long for now, Until the next adventure♡

    • @Kobalt_Rax_the_one
      @Kobalt_Rax_the_one 2 місяці тому

      I really hope for some positive and more hopeful news that he will return to game development at least . His talent shines the best in this medium .

  • @jdpower9032
    @jdpower9032 5 місяців тому +30

    Even if it’s not an Alice project, I’m hoping you’ll continue to lend your talents to game design in the future. Recently, many legends of the industry have decided that they’re fed up with how large companies run things, so they made their own studios and set their own rules. There’s still room for creative geniuses out there, and there will always be people who will stand with you.

    • @Kobalt_Rax_the_one
      @Kobalt_Rax_the_one 2 місяці тому +1

      He has his own studio no worry there is just to eventually return in game development . There is still so much for him to achieve imo. it might be some coping from me now but we just need more dark , macabre versions and storytelling of fairytales and fables bough to live in VG . He had some great ideeas for Wizard of OZ as well and episodic game .

  • @princeofallhallows
    @princeofallhallows 9 місяців тому +77

    The Alice games and artbooks/design bibles changed my life for the better and developed my own art style to an insane extent, and the story of the second game introduced me to the world of creative storytelling as a whole. I will always credit those games and stories for giving me the avenues they have today, and while it may no longer be something that is continued through conventional means, I will always have the lovingly created works that I've held close to myself for years now, and I look forward to whatever else you may wind up creating in the future.
    I hope you and your family have all the luck in the world, and I thank you for bringing us one of my favorite franchises of all time, regardless of how things ended.

  • @Vinicius_Berger
    @Vinicius_Berger 7 місяців тому +82

    I wish I had Mr. Beast levels of money to just buy the Alice IP (or, heck, buy Electronic Arts as a whole) and say: "Here you go, American. I now own the IP. You can work on the third game now".

  • @starrygeek
    @starrygeek 9 місяців тому +43

    EA is the one who failed, not you and never you. You worked endlessly and hard for and on Alice. You brought us a beautiful world and story that so many of us got to experience and become part of. And so many of us will be forever grateful for. I will never forget Alice or that World as it shaped many of my interests and brought me comfort. So thank you American, thank you.

  • @deepstothepeeps
    @deepstothepeeps 9 місяців тому +110

    Hi American. I want you to know that, as a fan, I do not blame you for Alice: Asylum's fate nor do I feel that you let me down. I know that you, Martin, Alex, and the rest of the team did everything you could to make Asylum as attractive to EA as possible. To know that Alice means as much to you, if not more so, as it does to us, the fans, is comforting. You said you felt shame over what happened and I certainly understand why you would feel that way, but I hope that you also feel proud that something you created has resonated with people for years, even decades at this point. I also hope that this video will, at least, lessen the amount of Alice: Asylum comments you receive.
    Finally, I want to say thanks, man. Thank you for all the effort you put into Alice: Asylum, including the Patreon posts and the very enjoyable livestreams. Thank you for your part in creating the Alice community we now have. Thank you for showing us a side of video game development we never see. Thank you for putting up with repeated questions, offers to voice act, suggestions for paths forward, and all the other "helpful" comments from enthusiastic fans. Thank you for Alice.

  • @Zipperskull_
    @Zipperskull_ 9 місяців тому +28

    McGee you already did your part with the design bible that concluded alice's dark adventure, it's enough to know that alice have stable ending and that she can do well on her own. Thank you so much to you and your team for such hard work over the years.

  • @komang7699
    @komang7699 9 місяців тому +56

    This video feels like a bit of closure. It’s such a shame this happened, but I’m so grateful the design bible exists! It’s time to move forward and
    I can’t wait to see what you do next! Whatever it may be ❤

  • @DeadSkullable
    @DeadSkullable 9 місяців тому +67

    I'm glad you are doing genuinely well, and I am sorry once again that you were emotionally heartbroken by it. It's just EA has changed over the years and they don't understand the creative concept and people's attention to make good quality games. Even so, you were the most inspirational person who ever gave us these two wonderful Alice games. And even when Asylum gets revived, I know you won't be there and that's OK. But that one will be a dedication to you and your family. We fans have your back, and we will promise to support you no matter what. Hopefully one day, EA will come around and bring it back in the near future. But rest easy Mr. McGee, and please take care of your wonderful family as well. Have a good day sir.

  • @rinraiden
    @rinraiden 9 місяців тому +27

    I guess in the end we were all dreaming of Wonderland - and just like Alice, at some point we have to wake up and face reality. 😞

  • @Craig_Spurlock
    @Craig_Spurlock 9 місяців тому +39

    The most offensive thing about this whole debacle was that it was EA's own bloody idea for the new game! Were they just sitting in their offices for 5 years laughing knowing full well they were never going to greenlight Asylum?🤬💔
    Also, I do very much miss the social interactions with y'all in the livestreams! I will be forever grateful for all the work you have done, American, and all the games we did get from your career!

    • @Kobalt_Rax_the_one
      @Kobalt_Rax_the_one 2 місяці тому +1

      Yea i don't get it back then like 3 years or so ago ,the way it seems they were being ok with the production of the third game and negotiations were going well over all . Sad to see how it ended .

  • @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777
    @ihaveaplan.ijustneedmoney.9777 9 місяців тому +17

    Alice in the yellow dress lying down in a bed of bloody tendrils have to be my favorite artwork from the project and from the entire franchise in general. I am devastated how it will never be associated with an actual game made by your team.
    Much love Mr. McGee, The Alice games were a huge part of my childhood. I wish you and your family well. ❤

  • @Jeewel18
    @Jeewel18 9 місяців тому +31

    never clicked faster

  • @Here_s_Jackie
    @Here_s_Jackie 9 місяців тому +28

    You haven't failed anyone. You're an amazing human being with a beautiful artistic view which brought so many people together. People that played Alice connected with the game, with each other and with you and felt things that other games never made them feel. And ofc I'm one of them. Especially playing the second one was a painful at times experience, but so cathartic, beautiful and hopeful.
    Despite not getting Asylum, that doesn't mean your creative heritage won't remain in our hearts, it doesn't change how you helped a lot of people through your work. And it doesn't change the way the community feels about you. You did your best and that's all we can do and that's more than enough. We thank you for all your incredible hard word and dedication and I'm sure the community will still be here.
    I wish you the best life and all the happiness in the world 🫂

  • @Katy133
    @Katy133 9 місяців тому +17

    It boils my blood that EA is being such a dog in the manger about all this. I'm sorry you had to deal with all those frustrations.
    American McGee, thank you for creating American McGee's Alice; it is a favourite game of mine to play and replay.

  • @suu-chama
    @suu-chama 24 дні тому +3

    I still can't believe EA was so stupid to not go after the proposal. I'll be forever grateful for what you have created, thank you!

  • @SirenMystica
    @SirenMystica 9 місяців тому +25

    Even with EA's rejection the Legacy that is Alice will forever live on with us the fans. Thank you to you and to your amazing team for the work you put in to creating this Masterpiece of a game and for the many many memories us the fans will hold for years.

  • @F0rever.B0red
    @F0rever.B0red 2 місяці тому +3

    Youre the reason im still obsessed about this game years later. Your work and creativity is more valuable than EA will ever appreciate.

  • @MiseryMalicious
    @MiseryMalicious 9 місяців тому +17

    You brought us a beautiful story, your team brought us great artworks and even Alice inspired merchandise. You didn't fail anything, EA approached you and asked you to do what you did and you delivered. They failed to see the beatiful piece of art that was the work your team put forward and none of that is on you or your team. I appreciate everything you guys produced for us over the last several years and have enjoyed the adventure! Thanks for everything, and I'm happy to see you and your beautiful family thriving ❤.

  • @memenri
    @memenri 9 місяців тому +20

    Even though it is an ending, I do not feel sad or unsatisfied. I'll never forget these wonderful adventures who more or less kept me alive when I needed to be saved. It was indeed a wonderful time. We should be happy it even existed.
    Thank you for making Alice alive in the first place.

  • @iheartemmaroberts
    @iheartemmaroberts 2 місяці тому +7

    i hope it can bring comfort that alice madness is reviving again on tiktok and everyone wishes asylum happened, we love your work and we dont blame you, we know it was EA's fault. thank you so much for everything you've done

  • @dorksouls9235
    @dorksouls9235 4 місяці тому +4

    Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened.

  • @ArthGrimalkin
    @ArthGrimalkin 9 місяців тому +17

    Thank you for the video. The Alice games were one of my very favourites.
    I understand how hard this might be and thank you for working so hard on this.

  • @cookycutie
    @cookycutie 4 місяці тому +5

    Im playing alice madness return right now bc i know we wont get asylum , you did so well im sure asylum wouldve been greater than the 2nd but im proud of you YOU DON KNOW HOW MUCH OF A REFERENCE alice is to many of my friends that deal with mental health issues alice is always a great game to relief from stress and feel understood , thank u so much i tried to sign the petition i did harassssss EA email and i personally boycott ea , thank you so much i cant wait for a fan to make alice we can support financially i truely hope that would be the future of gaming to not wait for EA or another big company to give the green light vut it would be absolutely up to the fans in that case AI seem to be a big hint , im alice fan but your alice us by far the best ever

  • @irishrose90
    @irishrose90 9 місяців тому +9

    I just want to thank you for bringing us your version of Alice in the first place. It's iconic and loved by so many people. You created something so special and it's great Alice lives on in other mediums.

  • @morty4815162342
    @morty4815162342 9 місяців тому +97

    Please, do not blame yourself American, you did everything you could and we see that. Thanks for all the wonderful art you’ve given us. I think the A.I route is a very smart suggestion , and inevitable. 🙏❤

    • @snoccone
      @snoccone 9 місяців тому

      its the dumbest suggestion ever

  • @dinomighty7223
    @dinomighty7223 5 місяців тому +4

    Growing up playing the Alice games contributed in making me the person I am today. You are a true creative genius McGee, and it breaks my heart that this big corporation withheld your dream from becoming a reality. You and your work will always hold a special place in my heart.

  • @nguyenthebao4028
    @nguyenthebao4028 7 місяців тому +5

    Having read the full design bible, it is such a shame that this project does not work out. I'd have loved to play your game. It is truly something special.

  • @danielshahid9923
    @danielshahid9923 4 місяці тому +4

    This broke my heart so bad I’ve been an Alice fan since “ American McGees Alice” and i hold onto a thin line of hope that EA one day considers Alice Asylum or a miracle happens and it does eventually become a reality. As of now though I have a computer that I still use for the first game and my Xbox for madness returns. I wish you the best.

  • @TaurusSystem
    @TaurusSystem 5 місяців тому +4

    I just wanted to stop by and say thank you, for the stories, for the games and for the lovely designs with Plushy Dreadfuls, I really relate to the ones that depict the different mental health conditions and disorders that people struggle with in a relatable and soft cuddly way. I hope that life gives to you a much better hand soon, may good fortune and blessings come your way, American.

  • @fashioni.star.
    @fashioni.star. 9 місяців тому +7

    I want you to know that for me, as an artist, even if the game is never made, my support for you and the art and vision you’ve created is never misplaced. And I’m sure others feel the same way

  • @JustADankRaven
    @JustADankRaven 9 місяців тому +13

    Thank you for your inspiring work, Mr. McGee, along with the team that gave us such wonderful stories. It has been an honor to have seen the timeline. We'll always be here.
    On another note, maybe in the future, there could be a story revolving around youth. But who knows for sure, only time will tell.

  • @calebh373
    @calebh373 9 місяців тому +17

    I'm glad to hear that you're doing well. All things considered, while I'm skeptical about the AI part, I have the sneaking suspicion that EA will at some point pursue an Alice sequel. My only hope is that they use the design bible as a blueprint for the game.

  • @BudoukibaSan
    @BudoukibaSan 9 місяців тому +7

    I just cannot thank you and your whole team (people like Omri Koresh are truly a gem) enough for all the time and effort you put on all of this. Not only Asylum but he entire franchise. Everything you did was full of magic, art and creativity.
    I bet we are all really sad about what happened and what could have been a beautiful sequel of Alice but you are not to blame.
    Both Mysterious and Plushie Dreadful lines are amazing so I'm really looking forward to all the things coming. I'll definitely stay tuned for all the amazing work you have to bring to us in the future.
    Again, thank you for everything. Keep going ❤

  • @lindseyreisker
    @lindseyreisker 9 місяців тому +8

    I hope to see future games by you and your team. OZ sounded interesting.

  • @Player-10
    @Player-10 9 місяців тому +3

    Your work is cherished greatly. Thank you for the update, and I pray you continue to find peace in this.
    I remember the day you released the design doc, I stayed up early into the morning reading it. Stifled creativity is so, so painful. Blessings to you and yours Mr. McGee

  • @VergilHiltsLT
    @VergilHiltsLT 9 місяців тому +11

    American, you and team have done all you possibly can. Don't let EA's shortsighted stupor stop you. I still believe that one day a miracle could happen. Until that day, please keep all the concepts and hard work the incredible Asylum team have produced. I feel the pain in your voice, but I still can't imagine what it's really like for you.
    We're with you all the way.

  • @SoulMelodyUwU
    @SoulMelodyUwU 9 місяців тому +5

    This will always hurt, but there is nothing more to be done. I'll forever appreciate all the work you've done, both games are really high on my favorites list since I played them :)
    Thank you American, and I wish the best for you and your family!

  • @nopeboat6436
    @nopeboat6436 9 місяців тому +9

    You and all the work you’ve done for gaming will be remembered forever. The name American McGee is legendary for all the beauty and fun you’ve given us. EA is a greed ridden company, and it’s truly a shame on them to stop such an amazing team of artists.
    I know these are just words, but sincerely thank you for the joy you gave us. your fans wish the best for you, your future, and the future of art in videogames.

  • @steaktastebetterpill
    @steaktastebetterpill 9 місяців тому +38

    All that said, I hear Disney are contemplating an attempt to acquire EA.
    Perhaps it'd be worth pitching Alice again after that happens, if it happens!

    • @tommyliddell8794
      @tommyliddell8794 9 місяців тому +34

      The rodent is likely the entity that is the least interested in resurrecting the IP.

    • @dhgmrz17
      @dhgmrz17 9 місяців тому +2

      @@tommyliddell8794 The only real hope would be a game company like Microsoft acquiring EA or EA selling the IP off to another large company.

    • @tristaishmael3464
      @tristaishmael3464 9 місяців тому +13

      He’s done with Alice, he’s moving on. Which is understandable

    • @dreamwithinadreamfilms
      @dreamwithinadreamfilms 9 місяців тому +11

      Technically, Disney already stole American McGee’s Alice… In those horrible Tim Burton films, which are obvious rip offs of American McGee’s gothic version of Wonderland. (Disney already has their own Alice that appears in the Kingdom Hearts series, anyway.)

    • @xysm5224
      @xysm5224 9 місяців тому +11

      Then they'll make Alice a black lesbian trans woman that is fighting patriarchy or something

  • @Kasaix
    @Kasaix 9 місяців тому +7

    We still have Alice 1 and 2, and EA can't take that from us.

  • @Milena.Yordanova
    @Milena.Yordanova 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you! Your creative genius and genuine efforts have been greatly appreciated by all fans. This is something EA can never take away from you. Wishing you happy holidays🎉❤

  • @RadiancePawAnimation
    @RadiancePawAnimation 9 місяців тому +3

    Your game about Alice really inspired me at the time. I just want to say thank you, American Mcgee, for your creativity! Now I will have the desire to do something fan-inspired and inspiring. I want to wish you and your family a wonderful time!♥️

  • @DittoGaming0900
    @DittoGaming0900 9 місяців тому +9

    I'm sure something will change, don't give up, we can say that the road ends now sure, but I can feel it, they can say they won't do it, but somewhere down the line I'm sure someone will do it

  • @MissRedrum
    @MissRedrum 4 місяці тому +4

    I still have hope... I love this game and I loved your prespective.

  • @samuelrivera7373
    @samuelrivera7373 9 місяців тому +4

    Just wanna say I appreciate all that you've done and continue to do man. It doesn't matter if you keep making games or not all that matters is your family, your health, and happiness. Thanks for everything and I look forward to future videos!

  • @himeookami
    @himeookami 9 місяців тому +4

    Madness Returns will always have a special place in my heart, I've been watching this progress ever since they were simply ideas of working on concepts. Thank you for working on everything, I'm glad you made more and I LOVE PLUSHIE DREADFULS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @spadecreate
    @spadecreate 9 місяців тому +5

    im happy for where you and your family are right now, american. have a great day!

  • @abigaileldritch
    @abigaileldritch 9 місяців тому +2

    I’m so glad you pursued it at all-
    because the art and seeing the creative process helped me develop my art and probably so many other artists from watching it. It gave a lot of us drive and knowledge we didn’t have before for us to go after creative endeavours no matter how wild. The team gave all of us all a lot, beyond the game.

  • @lynnxstar8665
    @lynnxstar8665 9 місяців тому +17

    Te entendemos pero no nos fallaste, el que nos causa disgusto y rencor ha sido EA, sabes que tienes una comunidad de fans que te aprecia por tener grandes ideas y que trnasmitiste esas ideas aun siendo conceptos que muchas personas han amado, gracias a ti muchas personas se han inspirado a crear muchas historias y siempre lo sera en el futuro, te deseamos lo mejor del mundo 🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @lucacamminacieli7093
    @lucacamminacieli7093 9 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for all your work and for all you've given us in these years ! Really. 🤗

  • @palate2004
    @palate2004 5 місяців тому +8

    EA is greedy and unfair. McGee poured his heart and soul into Alice, from the very first game. They don't want an Alice Asylum not because they don't want another Alice game. They don't want McGee on board. This is my honest opinion and feeling. McGee should go on making alice-like games, but based on other tales, like little red riding hood, cinderella etc.
    Maybe it is the end for Alice, but I really hope it's not the end of American McGee's genius

    • @cozykitcat4100
      @cozykitcat4100 Місяць тому

      Sadly McGee is not allowed to make any Alice like games based on other tales and similar themes/ styles or he would be in legal trouble.
      People have written petitions to EA, and even fundraisers for the game. There has been no luck, despite 20 years of utilizing professional legal teams and mass amounts of efforts from so many people and fans.
      People have written petitions to EA, and even fundraisers for the game. There has been no luck, dispite 20 years of utilizing professional legal teams and mass amounts of efforts from so many people and fans.
      The only hope we have is that someone rich enough would be able to buy the IP for the game but that would cost millons, if only i had Mr Beasts amounts of money..
      All anyone can do is take up there complaints with EA, that or spam Mr Beast with fingers crossed (no chance of that working sadly).
      Its probably best to let things go for Mr McGees sake, hes worked so hard and tried everything for years. I appreciate his dedication and his wonderful game ♥
      With that said i think its time to surrender the hopes of a new game after 2 decades.

  • @CynAnne1
    @CynAnne1 9 місяців тому +5

    I remember the start of Alice...your concepts, storylines and art, and was enthralled at the dark beauty of it all. ❤
    Mayhaps EA will realize their error in judgment... 🤞

  • @sewingwithjazz
    @sewingwithjazz 3 місяці тому +3

    I feel for you😢 i love your games and know most lines by hard😂😅 your creativity and your world building fascinated me ever since. I loved finding all the little easter eggs and metaphors. The series was part of my teenage/ young adult years and i cant believe its over. I wish something could be done but even then you said you dont want to work on it anymore. I guess that is healthy and selfcare comes first. I hope your creativity will help you heal and cope. I once read being an artist means also being a healer since the creative part of creating means healing (it loses a bit in translation sorry). Best wishes for your family, health and happiness and thank you for the curious and wonderful world of american mc gees alice in wonderland ❤❤❤

  • @DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyer
    @DND_and_Star_wars_enjoyer 4 місяці тому +5

    I hope that one day Alice will be given back to you, i hope that Alice will finaly have her third game and finaly have her happy ending, since as we all know that the last game (alice madness returns) had an open ending that was practicly was saying that this is over for now/this is not truly over.

  • @Briannaedwards98
    @Briannaedwards98 2 місяці тому +1

    So, I’ve been revisiting the design bible this week due to a tragedy in the family. The Alice games have always brought me comfort, so I cannot tell you how much comfort it’s brought me to reread the design bible. As someone who loved both of your games I’m upset that EA refuses to continue Alice’s story, but I also want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for finishing the story with the design bible. It’s a wonderful piece of work and I’m glad you gave it to us fans of Alice 💕

  • @LadyArty19
    @LadyArty19 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this, American. I feel like this brings more closure on the matter for me personally because I was so pumped for Asylum. Madness Returns was one of the most magical gaming experiences I’ve ever had, your darker take on such a beloved story was right up my alley and it remains one of my favorite games/concepts ever. I’m so sad that it’s ending like this, but Alice definitely had a good run. Thanks again. 💙

  • @tommyliddell8794
    @tommyliddell8794 9 місяців тому +1

    I am sorry for this loss
    and I want to thank you and the team for years of entertaining podcasts and fueling inspiration and imagination in a lot of people's mind.

  • @Morbid_Ishtar
    @Morbid_Ishtar Місяць тому +3

    Sending love and good fortune to you and your family. Thank you for everything, and I look forward to seeing what the future will bring. ❤ BTW I love my Fibromyalgia Bunbun 🐇

  • @dxminer
    @dxminer 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for all you're hard work

  • @NERDSAUCE
    @NERDSAUCE 6 місяців тому +3

    thank you for the Alice franchise. I just played through them for the first time and they're beautiful works of art. I'm sorry they're doing you dirty, the industry is so twisted and full of greed and corruption.

  • @DuskBeing
    @DuskBeing 9 місяців тому +6

    Hearing this really breaks my heart. To know that my favorite game will never get a sequel makes me devastated. But then again i don't think anything could beat the masterpiece that is Alice: Madness Returns. Thank you for all your hard work American McGee and may EA Fall for this. At least our Wonderland, though damaged, is safe in memory... for now.

  • @klemontyme
    @klemontyme 9 місяців тому +5

    you didn't fail us, EA did. I am so thakful for the creations you have made. You're Alice games is such a unique interpiration of the classic story, and I will forever cherish them. Thanks for all the work you've done, I appreciate it.

  • @froggy9191
    @froggy9191 2 місяці тому

    Sending love to you, your family, all of the amazing artists and collaborators, patreon contributors and fans ❤ Enjoy living the rest of your life American, you've made an amazing impact on many people 🙏

  • @MintyCow101
    @MintyCow101 9 місяців тому +5

    Your vision of Alice and the games art and style are a massive inspiration to me and i was so sad to hear that EA wont let you make another game. Alice is such a unique and incredible story and piece of art. Thank you and your team for all your hard work, your games have been such a key part in my life and art style ❤ im sending you lots of love and gratitude!

  • @TrystantheMutant510
    @TrystantheMutant510 9 місяців тому +5

    This breaks my heart 💔

  • @yutarokida
    @yutarokida 9 місяців тому

    You deserve better, you really created something incredible and I really hope this is not the end.
    You really inspired me to become an artist and animator and just for that, thank you.
    I wish the best for you and your family!

  • @ruthblakmage
    @ruthblakmage 5 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for the two beautiful games you made. My friends and I still get on discord and play it together. It's tragic that EA rejected a third, but we're grateful for the two games we did get. We also adore the Plushie Dreadfuls and can't wait to see what designs come next! Safe travels!!!❤

  • @AdenaKaiba
    @AdenaKaiba 9 місяців тому +1

    I wish you all the best. Your Alice games will always be among my absolute favourites.

  • @Sheepy765.
    @Sheepy765. 5 місяців тому +4

    I hope that one day, fans will do something more with Alice, or perhaps that EA will one day make a new entry in the series, continuing where you left off. I wish you the best.

  • @IHazMunchies91
    @IHazMunchies91 5 місяців тому +2

    I am writing a wonderland book called Colours and your game and various other things are the reason it exists. I hope that some things will live through my writings.

  • @juuba7761
    @juuba7761 9 місяців тому

    i'm so sorry American, we thank you so much for all you continue to do for us and the joy you bring to each and every one of us over the years. i started as an Alice fan, but ended as a fan of you, and all of your works that you pursue. rock on McGee!!

  • @M00nberryPie
    @M00nberryPie 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for working so hard to make beautiful and unique content for us. I'm sorry this happened. I'm sorry the wound is constantly being reopened as well.
    I hope you and your family prosper, and i wish you well in pursuing any of your dreams and goals for the future!

  • @trinabastien7860
    @trinabastien7860 9 місяців тому

    We love you. You did not fail us at all. You are amazing and thank you for your work.

  • @Trick-Framed
    @Trick-Framed 9 місяців тому +1

    Just stopped by to say thank you for all the great games over the years. I played the first Alice when it came out and I loved it.

  • @jjackesr
    @jjackesr Місяць тому +2

    I remember I bought a PS3 just to play Alice Madness Return that I had met at my friend's house smoking weed. Wonderful game.

  • @princealex6826
    @princealex6826 9 місяців тому +1

    My heart will forever be broken at this outcome. But all i can really say is, thank you Mr. McGee. Thank you so much for all of your work and for bringing myself and so many others so much love and joy with an already beloved fairytale. Wishing you the very best🩵

  • @nukaghoula
    @nukaghoula 9 місяців тому +1

    forever love and appreciate your Alice and her world

  • @Flesh-Automaton
    @Flesh-Automaton 20 днів тому +1

    Your a bloody legend man. Up there with Carmack and Gabe. Most visionary's and artist in this industry have to play by corporate rules. And I'm just glad you managed to bring us such amazing games while working under that hard framework. You have a beautiful family and I'm excited to see whats next for you!

  • @rahbit3
    @rahbit3 9 місяців тому

    Damn I had my hopes for it😢. I’m just glad you doing great and will always love the work you have done and will always be an inspiration to me in the gaming industry growing up!

  • @anrigveras
    @anrigveras 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm glad you're okay now. This situation was very sad, but you really did everything you could, and I am very grateful for that. The design bible and the content list file are really enough to create a third Alice game, and thanks for mentioning AI, that's a really good idea. I continue to follow you on your social media, it's nice to see your successes and new designs in plushie dreadfuls. I wish you and your family all the best, thank you for everything.

  • @kyoijin_bois3016
    @kyoijin_bois3016 5 місяців тому +1

    Fucking heartbreaking beyond words but your blessing for the fans to carry the torch is a wonderful sentiment.
    Thank you for everything ♥️

  • @priscilanosoma
    @priscilanosoma 9 місяців тому +4

    I'll be forever heartbroken! But you didn't failed, your gave us two BEAUTIFUL Alice games and all the art and story for Asylum that your team and the community created together will be always in our memories, and EA can't take that away from us. It's hard to move on but we don't have other choice... for now. Glad to see that you and your family are doing well. 🖤

  • @denverrandy7143
    @denverrandy7143 9 місяців тому +1

    Love to see whats on the horizon for American Mcgee.👍

  • @AluWol
    @AluWol 9 місяців тому +2

    Thank you really. The game of Alice open to me new world, it takes big part of my life my teenage years, and still I am big fan of this industry, It's hard to describe how much this game means to me , thank you so much I always be on your side,I'll still continue to follow the new news publications, and I 'm glad that I was able to go all this way with you ❤

  • @HesperVespis
    @HesperVespis 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for trying so damn hard to make it happen... My heart goes out to you and everyone that worked on the project. I hope you have an amazing vacation with your family. All my love to you for everything you've given us over the years ❤

  • @Calypso694
    @Calypso694 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for this update from you. Thanks for all the hard work and dedication throughout the years. Thanks for Mysterious. Thank you American. That is all. God speed sir.

  • @jojocookies
    @jojocookies 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for your work! I‘m just soo grateful that your reimagined Alice was such a huge part of my life 💖 I can’t even count the amount of times I’ve replayed those games! Dressed up like her, wrote fanfic after fanfic when I was a teenager 😂 maybe it’s just time to move on for all of us and be happy with all the memories we made! I wish you and your family the very best and hope you can life a very fulfilled life knowing that so many people love what you‘re doing 🙏