I LOST MY MIND - Buffy the Vampire Slayer Reaction - 7x21 - End of Days
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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The newest video in my editor reacts to series. This week I'm watching and reacting to Buffy the Vampire Slayer for the first time.
Buffy has a powerful new weapon, but the gang cannot find any information about the origins of the mysterious scythe. Eventually the Slayer goes herself in search of knowledge, and finds a new ally, an old friend, and great danger.
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A young woman, destined to slay vampires, demons and other infernal creatures, deals with her life fighting evil, with the help of her friends.
Buffy the Vampire Slayer is an American supernatural drama television series based on the 1992 film of the same name. It was created by Joss Whedon under his production tag, Mutant Enemy Productions, with later co-executive producers being Jane Espenson, David Fury, David Greenwalt, Doug Petrie, Marti Noxon, and David Solomon.
The series narrative follows Buffy Summers (played by Sarah Michelle Gellar), the latest in a line of young women known as "Vampire Slayers", or simply "Slayers". In the story, Slayers, or the "Chosen Ones", are chosen by fate to battle against vampires, demons and other forces of darkness. Buffy wants to live a normal life, but as the series progresses, she learns to embrace her destiny. Like previous Slayers, Buffy is aided by a Watcher, who guides, teaches and trains her. Unlike her predecessors, Buffy surrounds herself with a circle of loyal friends who become known as the "Scooby Gang" - a reference to the animated franchise Scooby-Doo that features a group of friends solving mysteries together.
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#buffy #reaction
The indifference for the potentials was hilarious
I love that you completely missed David Boreanaz's name in the opening credits so his appearance was a complete surprise. Also, fans of Buffy were geeking out hard about the scythe Buffy finds. Joss Whedon created a comic called Fray, which featured a future slayer, and she had the scythe. It was released in June 2001, after Buffy season 5. Seeing the scythe in Buffy was a massive deal.
'Fray' is so good.
@anonymes2884 Indeed. To bad I cant say the same about most the Buffy comics...
@@anonymes2884 I really recommend it too.
On the reference to Xander and his part in Buffy leaving in "Empty Places", the dude lost an eye, was out of hospital, and was doped up on painkillers. He's honestly the only one out of the bunch who deserves a pass for that debacle.
And he doesnt even say anything mean like most of the others. He just says he cant see her point this time. Wich says a lot about his character growth
Right?? Feel the same way here.
Dismemberment alone is traumatic enough. I'm the most mad at Anya for her part in it, tbh. I never really forgave her for that. And it makes me unappreciative of her discussion with Andrew about staying to fight the apocalypse this time around. I'd rather see her skip town again bc her character can't seem to decide if she's selfless or selfish and she started getting on my nerves.
@@Mrs.Watcher I understand but to be fair, her ex husband just lost an eye
@@AnatoleVGCthey didn't get married.
Nathan Fillion did such a great job being creepy Caleb. I thought it was so great to have the three leads of Whedon's biggest shows in the same scene. After you watch the last episode of Buffy and s.5 of Angel, it doesn't have to end. That's when you rewatch the first episode of Buffy and go "aaaaw" and remember what they all went through and you get a little tear in your eye. ^_^
also its so much fun to try to point out all the foreshadowings! c:
Also there's the Buffy comic with season 8, 9 and 10
@@JacopoBasanisi Yes, I read season 8 and decided not to continue so I wasn't a fan.
Sometimes I like to start from the last episode and work my way back to the first.
To this day, I still love the singing sound the scythe does as it cuts through the air.
If you listen real close, you can hear it singing “I think this line is mostly filler”.. 😎
@@peterd9698lol
@@peterd9698🤣
It still annoys me that they all basically threw Buffy under the bus and got her kicked out of her house only 2 episodes ago and now it is like nothing happened.
It still annoys me how Buffy never apologized for how dispotic and reckless she was being only 2 episodes ago,which is *the reason* why she was kicked out.
@Nicamon but she was right
@@dlangley49 She was right about the fact Caleb was hiding a weapon. She *wasn't* right asking the Scoobies to attack Caleb again *without a plan* right after he had battered them!🤕 She acted just like Faith did in"Bad Girls"when she threw herself in a sewer without knowing how many enemies she was gonna fight and how powerful they were etc,ignoring eveything but her own rush,but somehow Faith was wrong and Buffy's right?!?🤨 #DoubleStandards
@@Nicamonbuffy said she willing to hear suggestions and talk strategies right?
@@Nicamon It's actually quite a nice test of reasoning. Just because she turned out to be right _after the fact_ absolutely doesn't excuse her actions at the time because we have to judge decisions based on what was known _when they were made_ NOT what turned out to be the case later, with 20/20 hindsight (and no small amount of luck - for instance Buffy had no idea they were hiding a magical superweapon, if it turned out to be a Wicca thing or needed activating in some specific way, she's likely dead here).
This isn't Buffy turning out to have been right all along, this is Buffy learning a lesson, adapting her tactics and riding her luck to _become_ right. That's actually more laudable i'd say because what makes a great leader _isn't_ always being right, it's how they respond to being wrong - if the show's point was just "She was right, they were wrong, Buffy is perfect" then that would be _so_ much duller and less nuanced IMO.
Its fun to watch a reactors journey through a show I love so much, but it's also so sad to see them reach the end. I will miss your Buffy reactions so much. Thankfully you react to a lot of show I like
Something interesting about the "axe" is that its first appearance wasn't in the TV show. It first appeared in an eight issue comic series called "Fray" that was written by Joss Whedon. "Fray" told the story of a slayer hundreds of years in the future and had a sort of "cyberpunk meets Buffy" vibe to it. It ran concurrently with season seven of Buffy. The titular character of "Fray" wielded the axe, which she called a scythe, and it was called a traditional weapon of the slayers which was "lost for a time".
yep i had forgotten that
“I’m so tired of defensiveness and weird mixed signals. I have Faith for that” 😏🤭
We really needed more of Anya and Andrew's friendship, so true!
couldn't wait, had to get the patreon for the finale. It's been a fun ride with you Lexi, you've been one of my all time favorite reactors to the show, glad we were able to share our favorite show with you.
Hope you enjoyed the finale reaction ☺️
Even though Buffy is almost over…you can do what Ive been doing for almost 20 years and re watch the entire series 2 sometimes 3 times a year
Damn I thought I was diehard with annual watches🤣💀
@@rydbthatsme it annoys my friends and family but by the time I finish the show I’m ready to watch the beginning again 😅 and I watch breakdowns and reactions and listen to the Once More Soundtrack Constantly
It actually _is_ such a shame Faith and Buffy weren't best friends. Not sure about being coleaders, that wouldn't really work, but maybe they each could get their own turf, and they could meet up and chill occasionally, like Buffy and Angel.
I think when Amanda says 'We got punished' it implies regret that the potentials did not follow Buffy in the first place, kicked her out, and put their 'faith' in the wrong slayer. They could recognize Buffy's renewed resolve gained after her night with Spike and now that she has the scythe, so the switching back and forth between slayers is not out of left field.
Oh and the scythe is "singing" BTW - making some kind of ethereal sound (sometimes only when wielded by the righteous) is a pretty common feature of legendary blades from myth and literature around the world (crops up in Norse and Celtic legends among others).
I've used a real scythe to cut grass - they really do sound like they're singing when the blade is empty on the backstroke. It's easy to extrapolate that a sword would make a similar sound moving through the air. But Buffy's weapon is shaped more like an axe, without a long metal blade. Hooray for fiction! Archeologists have actually discovered real singing swords called Ulfbehrt blades that were used by Vikings and Franks. If you're interested in learning more, google singing swords ulfberht blades from Germany.
You see, this is why Buffy is a lot better person than i am. I would have left the people who stabbed me in the back to live or die on their own.
"I should be there by your side." Well, maybe you should have thought of that before stabbing her in the back.
Yes, Buffy is a lot more forgiving than I think I would be.
Can I just say the amazing job Sarah did portraying the first evil?
"I've done things with you I can't spell." That is possibly the funniest line I have ever heard.....LMFAO
All of this connecting the parallels makes me wish Summer Glau was a potential.
I love that, although Caleb is extremely powerful, he’s no fighter.
Buffy is an excellent fighter and very agile.
While he’s got The Scythe he uses it clumsily and relies on fisticuffs. He was bound to fail.
I have thought that The First was not really capable of appreciating weapons as it’s been incorporeal for eons.
Just like the hubris of ‘No weapon forged’ from Season 2.
I always hated the lack of resolve re: the falling out in 7x19. It would have been nice to see a brief scene with the core Scoobies where they all admit their wrongs and make up properly but I guess the fact that nothing was said was a silent acknowledgement of how everyone had messed up at one point or another. 🤷
Team Bangel here too ❤
Worth it for the Bangel reaction. It was ALL worth it.
Translation of what the guardian said for those too slow to pick it up. The Shadow Men became the Watchers. The Guardians were are a group of women (most likely witches) who wanted to watch over and protect the Slayer. Not just from the Demons and Monsters she faces but from the manipulation of the Council. They Forged the Scythe to be the perfect mystical weapon in the hands of the Slayer.
You probably already know about this, but there’s an Audible audio drama called Slayers written by Amber Benson and featuring some of the original cast. It’s due to be released in a few days.
I enjoyed it.
Dirty Girls: Buffy is told Caleb has her stapler.
Touched: Buffy finds the mystical stapler.
End of Days: Buffy uses the Easy Button!
I see what you did there
It was interesting for me to see if the last scene would work for you or not and what will be your reaction. They said that this scene was made just for angel shippers like the last gesture to the ship in buffy TV series. Since they were vocal (and there weren't many of them they said) but they were asking for smth at that time, and this piece of pie was given to them. That's also why this conflicts with the rest of the main plot at the end, with what we saw in previous ep and especially how funny it looks like when after that Buffy says that it was 'just a hello' and asks to continue sleeping with Spike. As if nothing happened. Maybe it means that nothing really happened then. Anyway this whole thing looked bizarre. And especially that she will say 'the words' to Spike after that at the very end.
Such conflicting things happen when the author wants to please everyone at the same time, but this doesn't work like that actually. You can't please everyone. You have to choose.
“You know what’s crazy? She’s saying all these nice things to Xander and he never even apologized for being part of kicking out of her own house. I feel like we’ve just moved passed that. Kind of random.”
Once again - careless sloppy writing. Season 7 really suffers from this. Things aren’t acknowledged or addressed or concluded in a natural or organic way.
It feels forced, it feels contrived. It doesn’t feel like the final season of a fantastic character-driven saga. I don’t know what the accurate term is for it. Half-baked? Like Buffy’s terrible cookie analogy.
what's terrible about buffy's cookie analogy?
They are essentially in a war zone. It isn't normal. Events and feelings either get dealt with in a compressed amount of time, or jettisoned. No choice.
@@sirmoonslosthismindI get the point of it. It’s just worded really weirdly.
@@adgato75Wouldn’t happen if they had done with whole fight thing earlier.
@@Girl4Music
that's by design.
"and then, you know, if i want someone to eat me -- er..."
I love the way the Scythe sings when someone swings it through the air!
They just tried to do too much this season and it shows here. I will say, there are too many important things to fight to bother rehashing the whole coup right now, but it still doesn't feel right. Also, her just making out with Angel on first sight doesn't make sense to me, especially RIGHT AFTER what she went through with Spike, but whatever. I've always felt that was more for the fans than Buffy's character, but I also never liked them together so I have my own bias.
ofcourse bangel shipper. joss has himself said its the most epicromance he has ever written. plus, sarah herself doesn't care a bit abt spike and buffy, she is angel girl through and through
Yes, but he did not say that Bangel was endgame however. He ended that sentence by saying that Spike is the long- term guy for Buffy.
You are aware that SMG opinion here doesn’t really matter because of the fact that she is not the actual Buffy and does not write her own lines. And also she has outright admitted that she never finished watching the show, which is just another reason why her opinion holds no water here.
@@miaamer7718we get that your a Spuffy shipper and your in the majority so can you please just let us enjoy what little we have , geez
Love your btvs reactions! 🥰 I can't believe they are coming to an end, it's so sad 🥲 Good thing is, I can always rewatch ❤
I consider the recent past episodes as everyone being arrogant and stupid:
Buffy: The First wants us all dead, likes to feed us information to lead us into traps, so let's keep following that information and rushing into those traps!
Everyone else in the Scooby Gang: The First wants us all dead, likes to feed us information to lead us into traps, so let's keep following that information and rushing into those traps, and let's kick out Buffy as well!
Caleb: We want Buffy and the Slayer line destroyed, we don't want her and her team to have this mystical weapon, so let's make sure they all know where it is, and send our bombs, ubervamps, etc. elsewhere! And when Buffy shows up, I'll make sure to show her precisely where it is while flailing like a drunkard!
😂😂😂😂😂LOL.. Dawn was like, yeah fuck this. I am going back to Sunnydale for my sister.
Had Faith been the one to do it instead of Buffy, I Imagine that she would've had no trouble pulling the scythe from the stone. It belongs to the Slayer after all.
Season 4 of _Angel_ takes place over a very short period of time, though.
I love excited to the point of being incoherent Lexi. ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
When i was editing that part i was like yeah i also don’t know what i’m saying here haha
"hes boinking the first"
I mean can't blame him tbf 🤣
........poor spike.
One of the best characters in the series next to willow, faith, wesley
The only thing I regret is that he didn't find someone better than Buffy. He deserved better than to deal with Buffy's mixed signals.
@@x-man9473 Yeah, buffy is such a bitch for having PTSD after dying....... "better than buffy" there isn't better than buffy.
@@MicukoFeltonSorry Buffy fangirl. Almost every woman in the show is a better girlfriend than Buffy. Willow, Tara, Cordelia, Anya, Sam, etc. They actually appreciate the relationship they're in and treat their partner like someone they want to be with.
Buffy's a judgemental woman who can't stop obsessing over her high school ex boyfriend who broke up with her and moved on since leaving her with multiple women. And treating every other relationship she's in like a burden being thrown on her that she has to "learn to accept".
Since she's eternally "PTSD ridden" in relationships, she can stay single and wait on a loop for Angel to take her back. 😂
@x-man9473
Let’s be honest her so - called friends are like 10 times more judgmental than she is.
Not to mention her so called friends have certainly done more f***ked up shit than she has. So real tis Buffy that is better than them.
Big hint that the show is telling us Buffy has returned to the right path after making some mistakes ? She's accompanied by the "Chosen" theme again (season 7's "hero theme" and one of the best pieces of film/TV score ever written IMO - and i'm saying that in a universe that contains John Williams :).
(plus she's making with the jokes again, carrying the heavy things lightly)
Also, for all his many faults, we are reminded that Xander Harris is bordering on _crazy_ brave.
(also also, was that Andrew doing the frikkin' _Xena_ battle cry ? How could I have forgotten that among _many_ nods and references, BtVS acknowledged Xena walked so Buffy could run ?)
Is that really Xena's?
Buffy don't talk about kicking out of her own house ? The mission is the most important.
Xander and others dont' apologize .Ok, but some friendship dont need words for that, after all this time. We've seen this type of scene before and they know they messed up with Buffy. She knows that they feel guilty just as she feels guilty for the debacle at the vineyard just before, for Xander's gouged out eye, for the deaths of Molly and Dianne, Rona's broken arm and everyone's trauma. Buffy didn't apologize either. But that's not the important thing. The important thing is the mission. Great reaction, like always !!
On a side note, did anyone notice how lazy explosion effects are handled during this season compared to previous seasons of Buffy and Angel?
The reason that we didn’t see a big reconciliation scene is that they’re at war. Faith was out of commission, the Potentials were about to die, and Buffy showed up and took command. That’s what happens in battle. Once she took command and demonstrated the new weapon, the girls had new hope and finally realized their mistake.
There will be time to talk things through later; for now, they need to tend to their wounded, bury the dead and prepare for the final battle.
The other practical reason is that they just had too many storylines, character arcs, and the entire series to wrap up in only a four-episode block.
It was more important to introduce the Slayer Scythe; hint at Willow’s part in the finale; finish developing Andrew; set up the Xander/Dawn storyline; resolve Faith and Buffy’s relationship; and come to some understanding between Buffy and Spike.
That’s a lot for one episode where “nothing happened.” 😊
His name was actually in the intro, you were looking at the screen & you didn’t react and I thought ‘oh!! She’s going to be totally surprised!!’
Spuffy shipper till the end
You’re not the only one
A friend of mine has a fun theory for what happened with them and buffy. They think some of them assumed, like most of the time, someone would die for this to work and were hoping that by kicking Buffy out it would be Faith.
Pretty sure they were all thinking that the potentials would die.
Spuffy forever
Spuffy who? I’m sorry, the winning couple that’s who ❤
Angel and buffy the most iconic duo.
Your eye makeup is so pretty here!
He's boinking The First. 😂
Who's boinking the Second?
Bangel 4eva and always ❤ I loved your reaction to Angel showing up and their kiss was very much in character for Bangel 🥰
Expect for the fact that bangel is not really in character for those two at all anymore.
@@miaamer7718girl get a life lol
On October 12, an audio drama is set to be released on Audible. Anthony Stewart Head, Nicholas Brendon, Charisma Carpenter, and James Marsters are reprising their roles. It's set in an alternate reality where Cordillia is the Slayer. I believe the script was co-written by Amber Benson. Joss Whedon isn't involved for certain reasons.
I loved this episode! And the ending battle was AWESOME!
This is a theory I don't think about as much as others because there still aren't as many reaction viewers who don't make it here as opposed to the first four or five seasons. That's slowly changing, though. I think. I'm still refining this to the point where its cohsive (that will take years).
I like that Xander shows character growth in only saying and not yelling at her, but say how wonderful she is three episodes ago, helping the group [and allow himself to be used as the "reasonable justification" (🙄]) to do the first's bidding in kicking Buffy out two episodes ago, before saying in this episode "I thought I'd be with you until the end" and be upset that Buffy's giving him the job of watching over Dawn instead of being in the fight shows that the issues of attacking Buffy when things don't go the Scoobies way, and not dealing with the fallout afterwards are still a part of Xander's phyche. I get the issue and I love that he doesn't yell at Buffy like he used to in high school, but I also think that when it comes to his issues, it show more a lateral movement for me on the issues he's not dealing with and never has dealt with more than it does character growth overall.
I'm not railing against Xander's actions in the arc of the few episodes I've brought up. I'm pointing out the flaw in what he said in this episode in comparison to what he's said and done in the previous episode's. He cannot be with Buffy until the end if she is alone after being kicked out, and he cannot praise her to the best any character ever has, and then agree that kicking her out is an option and still think he had a chance of being with her to the end. If he wanted to be with her to the end and still disagree about not going to the vineyard, following someone else while not following Buffy (without kicking her out) was the only possible solution. No one in the group considered that kicking Buffy out was something The First would praise, though. “Be with her until the end” doesn’t negate disagreeing with Buffy, but kicking Buffy out does negate being with her until the end. How Xander disagree's with Buffy is what shows how he's grown up. But he still has a long way in dealing with his own personal issues, though. And kicking Buffy out was another moment in a long line of deflecting those issues. The only people who apologize for kicking Buffy out are Faith (before Buffy left) Kennedy, Amanda, and Vi. Thus my lateral movement reference.
I love that Amanda, Vi, and Kennedy apologize to Buffy. They don't say the actual words, but it's an apology on their part. I don't like that the best the core Scoobies can do is look down when Buffy calls out how bad everyone is (including herself) at communication skills. I don't hate on Kennedy like I see much of the fanbase doing. The fact that she apologizes to Buffy in this episode and calls herself a brat is more than most characters can say in terms of character progress. Plus, most reasons I see for Kennedy's dislike are reasons to dislike Rona over Kennedy. Her doing the "why are we fighting we're all going to die anyway" gets on my nerves more than anything Kennedy ever does. At least in my opinion. But, I know that is not a popular opinion.
Whether you side with Buffy or The Scoobies, The First is winning from the moment the group argues until Buffy saves everyone post-bomb. Which is why I am pro-Faith in apologizing to Buffy. She doesn't need to say the words to try to persuade Buffy to stay. Saying what she does say, is enough to show that she is taking command against a nearly sinking ship. And Buffy handing her the reins shows she knows that was going to happen if she continued arguing and didn't let herself be kicked out and replaced. This is why The First showed up as The Mayor telling Faith she was smart "to kick [Buffy] out." Buffy despite knowing this is in an emotionally bad place, as she always is after the Scoobies gang up on her, and Faith is now in charge and as she says to Buffy in this episode that she now understands Buffy's side of slaying.
Even after the bomb, the Scoobies don't really understand what Buffy and Faith talk about. Being the leader is akain to a General and knowing saving everyone isn't possible. Studying the bigger picture and hoping for as few casualties as possible is the best you can do. The group has been through apocalypses. But there is a difference between those and war. This has been war since Buffy was ressureccted. The first only just showed it's hand at the beginning of the season. The most losses the group suffered so far, was during the time they had kicked Buffy out (the bomb) because they didn't realize they were in the middle of being agents of The First when Buffy was kicked out. The only difference between Buffy and Dumbledore is Dumbledore seems wiser due to how old her is and only has people question him post death where as Buffy has people question her to her face and she has to pick herself up emotionally where as Dumbledore always seemed to never emotionally fall apart (although I personally think he did).I love that Faith is understanding for the first time what Buffy had been trying to teach her in S3 exept now it has to be more than that because war is different than apocalypses and being the general of a small army is different than leading a Scooby Gang. But either way, no one in the Scoobies have ever understood or will ever understand, even when they think they do. That is why they have always gone up against Buffy when things go wrong. It's why Xander disagreeing with her means he didn't the bigger picture on her side or that he had been a part of the bad guy's plan by kicking Buffy out.
The theory's still not cohesive in the way I like it, but I feel it's better than it was in its cohesiveness than when I came up with it years ago.
I only partially agree here. I think the only reason Xander didn’t yell at her is because he was on pain meds, Because even in the continuation comics he not only yells at her, he actively and of his own volition goes to the people who want to kill Buffy and spills the beans on where they can find the thing to help them kill her, and her motives. He very very very nearly got her killed.
@@miaamer7718 That makes more sense. Especially with the comics story. I hadn't put that into this theory because many S7 theories of mine aren't as fleshed out as others. But I like this. Especially when people say how grown up he is. I want to agree because I think in some ways it is true, but in other ways it makes little sense in the _turning against Buffy_ moment and _contradicting himself_ moments. This fixes a lot of that. Thanks!
If you like reading there's a book called in every generation that focuses on the potentials and Willow just not Buffy about stories after last episode 😊🐾 💜
There are also several more canon seasons in comic book form.
@@adgato75 Don't read comics but thanks. I can't even read books anymore because I lost sight in my left eye
Oh, good, you are interspersing this with the _Angel_ episodes.
I will tell you why I will be a Spike girl always and its really simple; Angel only loves Buffy because he was cursed with a soul. When he was evil his love and care for her went away and changed to hatred and evil and only after he got cursed again did it return. Spike loved Buffy BEFORE he got his soul back. Spike, even while evil, could not hurt Buffy and ended fighting for her and attempted to "do good" because of his love for her. Spike's soul was not a curse - he sought it out, FOR HER. To be the man she wanted and needed because of his love fore her. He suffered to the extreme - FOR HER and for her to love him back. Angle had to be cursed in order to love her and be a good man, he didnt seek it out nor want it when he was evil. Spike didnt have to be cursed. He did it willingly, FOR HER. Only half of Angel loves Buffy, his good half. ALL of Spike loves Buffy, bad and good. To me, Angel is pretty pathetic. His love is not "unconditional". Spikes is.
Evil Spike could not hurt Buffy? I guess I just dreamed up Seeing Red and all the times he punched her, blackmailed her, verbally abused her, alienated her from her friends and exploited her self hatred so he could have her.
Honestly, I'll take straightforward gleefully evil Angelus over romanticized toxic Spike who imposes his manpain onto a girl he tried to SA. Any day.
Are you forgetting Spike tried to kill Buffy and her friends? That his 'love' in season 5 was basically obsession, stalking, trespassing, stealing her underwear, kidnapper, tied her up and almost got her and dawn killed. Coercing Buffy into degrading public sex countless of times, taking advantage of her depression to isolate her and use her further for his unhealthy fetishes, ultimately resulting in his disgusting SA attempt that left her bruised on the floor of her own home. I still cannot get people who romanticize this its so problematic.
Spikes storyline would have been much better if his 'love' actually caused him to go on his own journey of self reflection and discovery of his soul.
Yeah Spike without a soul was certainly more humane than Angelus but I wouldn’t go so far to say that Spike “could not hurt” her. He punched her the minute he realized the chip didn’t work on her 🙄 I’ll take Spike over Angel any day, especially Spike with a soul, but let’s not romanticize soulless Spike.
Spike was toxic and did Buffy way more damage than any other man. Sad how females think his actions are romantic.
@@theprodigalPreach! The way they would hit each other and Buffy repeatedly telling Spike no only for him to force himself on her would make me cringe. Even SMG didn’t like the Buffy and Spike relationship. After the events of season 6, she suddenly wanted the show to end. I understand why S7 was it for her.
Buffy is too good for all of them. They don't deserve her
I remember thinking at the end: ::mild spoiler warning:: Wait a sec, does that mean Spike was just going to watch Buffy potentially die? ::end spoiler::
can't believe our journey is almost over
Season 7 has always been my favorite season. Idk why but it's like that with the Harry Potter series both books and movies. I love the final book and movies.
I’ve basically just binged all your Buffy reactions - they are so great! I’m still a bit delulu and wishing Buffy/Faith were together.. it wouldn’t have worked when they were younger but post season 7.. I think they would have!
A stebon reference? I've seen it all.
11:36 That's for the cyclops thing.
I hated that Angel scene so much. Angel suddenly appears, they kiss like nothing happened (and if you've watched Angel it's even weirder...) and like Spike doesn't exist. It's like the writers were like "ah, let's just quickly squash that it there for the Bangel fans". Felt so unnatural, urgh. And like a punch in the face for Spike.
What? I think you clearly are caught up into shipping. That scene makes perfect sense.
@@Square-ow7oq Does it? Imagine not having seen you ex in months, he appears and you just kiss him Hello on the mouth. While having a thing with someone else and not knowing if maybe he has another relationship.
@plantifulalexandra look, i dont care about fictional romantic relationships, even if its my favorite show, but Angel is not just an "ex". Pretty much everyone involved in making the show was clear that Angel is the love of buffys life. You may dont like it, but you know it. Even spike didnt care or got as upset as much as you seem to.
"A punch in the face"? Stop being so dramatic, it was a kiss in the lips lol
@Square-ow7oq
There is absolutely no indication that Angel is anything more than first love.
If you think otherwise then please provide me with truth.
Even Joss Whedon admitted that this was fan service
@miaamer7718 i haven't read Joss saying that so if you could kindly provide a source i would belive you. In any case, my point is people who overreact to that, love a ship so much it gets them eo angry. It's just a kiss... they're not real people you know? It's not a "slap in the face" lmao
So Lexi's reaction to first or second viewings of new characters.
Andrew: wish he would die.
Anya: hate her, why bring parallel prrson back.
Dawn: what is happening, I don't like her.
Adult Connor: interesting.
Now her feelinga about all of them, she loves them, except for adult connor who she now hates.
So guess one character the writers just could not get.
Only 1 season of Angel after this finishes. Gonna miss your reactions
finale is next buckle up for one hell of a ride.
I'm so excited 😭
I'm not sure, but I guess the third way to kill a vampire with the scythe would be with the pointy tip of the blade. Although that part is made of metal, so I can't be 100% sure of my theory.
'Lets leave Faith behind? What a sucky ass person'
A few moments earlier..
'To hell with the potentials'
😊 I love your investment in this show and your responses to it, reminds me of me..a certain number of years ago..god that's depressing.
Anyhow, finale coming up soon, woop!
_i tried so hard, and got so far..._
_...and in the end, it doesn't even matter..._
x P
I had to fall to loose it all
And in the end it doesn’t even matter
😢😮
Do you have options to look into the comics like online? I really would love to see them beyond descriptions in Wikipedia that sound insane and often epic. And really, really consider the US version of Shameless, I believe your thoughts about the characters and all wound be very enjoyable
❤ angel ❤
The First is that mean girl from high school who likes to spread rumors and start drama
Spike death broke me n am a man but that was my dude my favorite bad person yep I cried when he died but was happy to see him on angel show tho but I wanted him n Buffy together
Ah but Harris. That’s not what you do. That’s what Rosenberg does. What you do is much healthier.
You use your heart. You console. You comfort. You care. You don’t manipulate and control through power. Isn’t it sad how this guy always paints himself as the useless one because he has no power, yet he is responsible for some of the power moves in the show. So he makes jokes to compensate for his shitty feelings. So what? Lots of people use humour to cope. Why it’s made out as a bad thing that he makes jokes at inappropriate times is something I don’t understand. I find that is a much healthier coping mechanism than altering everything to be your way.
The differences between Willow and Xander’s ways of “dealing” are striking. As Buffy’s two bestest friends, one with supernatural power. One without. It is definitely Xander that has the healthier way to deal. I think what makes it not seem that way though is because Xander often fails in his attempts to deal while Willow is mostly successful in escaping dealing. And so it’s often Xander that gets all the slander… when really the one who deserves it is Willow because controlling the situation, the environment or the person is not dealing with it or helping it. It’s manipulating it. It’s altering it. And escaping the difficulties and consequences in the meanwhile. Using humour however has no risk and causes no damage. It can just come across as annoying or frustrating. But people would much rather be mad over a few poorly thought out jokes at inappropriate times and places than actual chaos and destruction of time and place. Having power to work your will is not always a good thing. And that is illustrated brilliantly through Willow. And it figures Xander would be the one to stop her.
Xander is not the bad guy. If he was - he’d do a piss poor job at being it because the only area he is a failure in is with control. He is useless there. But like I said - that’s not what he does. That’s what Willow does. And it’s made extremely clear in this show that that is not a good way to deal. To that I say - I’ll take the jokes any day.
Honestly... I kinda hate Spike's romantic speech, because when he says he's never been close to anyone, it cheapens his one century relationship with Dru and I call bs on that. "He had no soul, so it wasn’t real love", "it was more of an obsession". I know that's how a large portion of the audience stands on this, but I disagree, I don't think it was just obsession, just lust, or a shallow thing, an imitation of feeling. It might have been a sick, twisted, gothic love, but it was presented as the real deal in season 2, at least on Spike's end, and it was that peculiarity amongst vampires that made Spike and Dru so interesting.
Spike loved Dru and he "belonged to her" but she didn't belong to him, she was constantly cheating and would always put Angelus first, it's not her fault that she was so messed up mentally but it makes sense that Spike never truly felt close to her.
Spaffy forever! Don't like Angel... But who cares here... ))
Buffy vs Captain Mal
Why am I still the only person I know that HATES Buffy and Angel together???? He was SO TOXIC for her!!!
you are not. I am right there with you.
The fact that he fell for her when she was 15 and he was stalking her is just... eesh
He turned when he was 26 so the whole "Vampires stay the age they turned at" doesn't excuse him dating her when she was 16-17 🤢
and Spike wasnt toxic lol? I wish she'd sacked them both off and said she doesn't want to be with an undead person. Also Spike also met Buffy when she was 17 and their vast age difference is apparent the most in S6 and S7 it actually creeps me out SMG was in her early 20s kissing a 40 year old.
@@theprodigal He totally was, don't get me wrong. I just think at least when Spike has a soul he is capable of understanding his own toxicity while Angel thinks he's... well, an angel
@theprodigal
He was in his thirties.
@32:32 they probably did...
9:01 Is it? These are a bunch of teenagers - you cannot expect them to act as rationally as adults would. On top of that and without intending to insult anyone - girls are very emotional and do act like that quite often. Even adult women oftentimes make rash decisions like this - more so than men (who are of course not entirely immune to that type of behaviour either).
Not sure that it's because of emotions, but pretty sure men would just depose Buffy for being incompetent, and then depose Faith. Maybe they wouldn't be as b***y about it, but just as capable of making stupid decisions.
@@alicequinn505 Sure, but in a different way - less chaotic.
But as I mentioned - we have to keep in mind that these girls are basically all teenagers, most somwhere between 15-18 years old. Not children anymore, but not yet adults either.
The comics are really good. Though I stopped after season eight was finished because it got too expensive but very worth it.
Imo season 8 was the worst thing ever to hit the fandom. It truly made me embarrassed to be a Buffy fan....
I’m sorry i tried to continue the comics, but they are bad. And i don’t consider it canon, no matter what. They would of never done that stuff in live action.
@@mizzdiiva92 Agreed. Most of it was bloody insane! lol
Dont fall for it. It is still always Buffy and Angel.
Just wait until you watch the series finale That's all I'm saying.
Wow yay u caught on eith miss kitty fanstastico
Hello 👋🏻. Surprise
A great opening scene with Caleb showing his fear now Buffy has freed mʔ from the rock. Buffy of course has to save The Potentials from certain death and dispatches The Turok Han with ease now as she now has the power of mʔ . Again when Spike returns we can see something is different between Buffy and Spike by the look in their eyes, the whole dynamic is now on another level, they both know that last night was special and has given Buffy the strength to fight on. Spike having his soul restored has of changed everything for the dynamic between him and Buffy. You can see in that conversation that there something is definitely there, and the Spike in Seeing Red is not the Spike in Chosen. Again how can Faith who with a soul, actually sexually assaulted and tried to murder Xander, and actually technically raped Riley in season 4, and committed cold blooded murder be treated differently from Spike by many fans. We realise that Xander was just doing what Buffy asked him when capturing Dawn and driving her to safety, but Dawn turns the tables zapping Xander and returns. A superb final scene with Angel returning to aid Buffy, but as Buffy and Angel kiss after Caleb has apparently been dispatched, it pans away to a very jealous Spike being tormented again this time by The First Evil as Buffy saying 'look at that bitch' a brilliant final scene to the episode. Enjoy the last episode CHOSEN you won't be disappointed, but many fans still feel the show reached a zenith in Series 5 finale THE GIFT.
🔥 This🔥 ☕️ 🐶 🔥 is fine🔥
I think there's a lot of lazy writing in the last season. Many eps. don't progress the plot, there's fighting, talking, people coming and going without a lot actually happening. The finale is good, no hints about that.
you cannot be a bangel shipper after the previous episode its so clear thet they are perfect for each other and love eachother
Yes; you can. And you can also be a spuffy shipper.
😂😂😂
“It’s so weirdly done honestly. I think it’s just so unsatisfying because they did this huge plot and then it just doesn’t matter in the end because … we don’t have time to talk about it. See, that’s the issue. Like I fucking knew it. Like if you’re going to make this, you should have done it earlier so that there was a chance for the characters to talk about it and to work through it. Instead now Buffy’s just back and is their leader again because … she has to be since Faith is just chilling in a bed because she got injured and is also feeling bad for leading the girls into a trap. It’s like… I don’t understand. It doesn’t really make sense. Like… I don’t like this storyline. It’s just so unnecessary in a sense. Well, maybe it could have been good but I just don’t think they executed it very well. I just don’t think they should have left it to the very last minute to do it. And they also should have then - if they had done it - addressed it instead of just not talk about it at all.”
Absolutely agree. And it’s not just ‘Empty Places’, although that is the worst example of it. The main problem with Season 7 is that they set up character arcs and narratives and themes only to just drop them and do something else or ignore them completely. Five By Five Takes gave the analogy of buying an IKEA desk and instead of constructing the parts in the proper and most logical way, just dump them on the floor and leave what you’re supposed to get from it a huge mess. Don’t even bother picking them up, let alone actually building the damn desk.
Season 7 is exactly like that. There’s no proper narrative undertaking for any set up they have - it’s all just left there. They have great ideas and honestly some great starter episodes and setups for everything… I mean ‘Lessons’, ‘Beneath You’, ‘Conversations With Dead People’, ‘Help’, ‘Selfless’, ‘Same Time, Same Place’… are fantastic episodes that don’t really suffer from the careless sloppy writing of the later episodes and a weighty main plot that’s that badly executed that it buckles under its own weight. It’s a massive inconsistent mess what they do with the latter half of the season. And they just neglect to properly use all of what was set up in the former half for this messy ass main plot with characters no one even cares about nor would be able to get any satisfying character representation or development so that we can learn to care about them because it’s the final season. There’s no time for any of that character stuff. Not even with the main characters. The point is to CONCLUDE them - to wrap up and tie together this amazing character-driven saga with its arcs and give them all a compelling and satisfying endgame. But nope… this never happens because there’s no time with all the rest of what’s going on taking the majority of the focus for the season. The final fucking season.
To say I’m disappointed is an understatement. But I can’t say I hate the entire season because there is some great episodes from it that arguably are some of the best in the entire show. It’s just I’m so dissatisfied with how they execute everything.
They don’t really address Willow and her magic. They don’t talk about Tara’s death and let us properly grieve for her. They don’t properly patch up Willow and Buffy’s relationship… there’s a lot left there. Everything just feels like it’s done wrong.
And I can’t even say that I wish they had just dropped Season 6 and 7 entirely because no Dark Willow and no ‘Once More, With Feeling’. 😢
People disagree with me. But I wish the show ended after season 5. By the final 2 seasons, every character felt like a hollow shell of themselves and they were all unlikable.
Season 6 destroyed their character arcs and season 7 just felt like they were going on an apology tour for how bad season 6 was.
@@x-man9473 personally I love Season 6 so I can’t agree with you there.
But I do understand what you mean. There was no way to undo the damage done from the fall out of Season 6 and they don’t even attempt to.
I can't believe you prefer the creepy stalker to the poet! That's so weird.
This comment translated in my brain as:"I can't believe you prefer Spike to Spike!"THIS is weird!@.@
@@Nicamon good point, he was a creepy stalker too at one point! But at least he didn’t fall for a 15 year-old.
@@phueal No...but at least Angel never tried to R-wording her...and not even Angelus did...
@@phueal Angel is always 26. And Buffy is 22 here. It's always the human who ages past the vampire. The writers were always careful to keep bringing out his sometimes childish nature. But he didn't stalk her. That's a predatory term. He was sent to help her. Otherwise he'd be doing his usual total avoidance of humans - the opposite of stalking. Spike was the predator, and Buffy keeps hating him. But he kept forcing himself on her until the ultimate assault.
@@gungho1284 This!👆