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- Опубліковано 25 лют 2023
- Are we really so different from the farm animals we eat? Philosophical thought experiments elucidate this question, bringing together the differing perspectives of philosophers and researchers, along with entertaining animations.
Peter Singer, Professor of Ethics at Princeton University, is seen as the philosophical father of the contemporary animal rights movement. Based on the philosophy of utilitarianism, the doctrine that sees the basis of moral behavior in the utilitarian, he convincingly explains why we need to consider the interests and feelings of animals in our views on meat consumption just as much as those of other humans.
But what do animals really feel? Sara Hintze is an animal welfare researcher at the University of Natural Resources and Life Sciences in Vienna. She studies the emotions of farm animals. Touching footage from her lab shows young fattening pigs displaying astonishingly human-like behavior in psychological experiments.
How do we know that animals feel, but that plants do not? Evolutionary biologist Jon Mallatt is concerned with precisely this boundary between the conscious and the unconscious world. He takes viewers on a journey 500 million years back in time, and explains why animals began to develop the first feelings.
Finally, we hear from Dan Shahar, one of the few philosophers to present an ethical defense of the consumption of meat. His arguments don’t gloss over the realities of livestock farming, but pose the question: what moral demands do we want to make on ourselves?
'The Great Meat Debate' Playlist (5-Part Series): • The Great Meat Debate ...
Part 1: Factory farming, animal welfare and the future of modern agriculture - • Factory farming, anima...
Part 2: Do we need to eat meat? - • Do we need to eat meat...
Part 3: Ethics and meat consumption - • Ethics and meat consum...
Part 4: The world of meat substitutes - • The world of meat subs...
Part 5: A vegan lifestyle: Is it the future? - [Coming soon]
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Dear viewers, we would like to apologize for the insert mistake @ 26:51 and any issues it may have caused. The insert should read: Dan Shahar, Author of "Why It's OK to Eat Meat".
Really? And what about humans being distant cousins with chimpanzees? Having a common mother? 04:56 Ain't that a mistake you should apologize too?
@@a.k.3659 😂.. we are talking about factual mistakes… not those which you ‘feel’ or ‘believe’ are.
@@remi_gio Whatever, Darwin theorist...
@@a.k.3659 🤣🤣🤣
@@a.k.3659 😂😂😂
Excellent video! So many people are fine with horrific conditions so long as it keeps the price down. My wife and I became vegan after seeing how they're really treated thanks to documentaries like Dominion. I think this series on the meat industry is a fantastic addition to the list of important documentaries.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
I couldn't agree with you more! Dominion is the most horrific, sadistic, cruel documentary I've ever watched. However, it is the most honest, important and necessary film that needs to be viewed by all, including college and university students. It should be made mandatory viewing in the high school curriculum - for 18 yrs old. The worldwide animal husbandry/agricultural industry have hidden behind walls and remained unaccountable for decades. Nothing is ever done to overhaul the industry and give better quality lives to farm animals facing slaughter. Dominion have been the only film company to have the courage of their convictions and face off with this corrupt, inhumane industry. People should at least know that slick little slogan used in the food and restaurant industries nowadays 'from the paddock to plate', skips a whole big bad chapter. The barbaric, archaic methods used in 'modern day' slaughter houses and abbatoirs across the world. If people choose to eat meat, they need to see this process and how their food is really bred, 'manufactured', cruelly warehoused and slaughtered.
@@DWDocumentary Why focus on meat only, can't we extrapolate that to plant as well and everything else we consume? And what about the living organism that you kill when "purifying" the water you drink?
@@joesamson8666 Because of sentience. Do you think stabbing a dog or cow in the throat is the same as chopping broccoli?
@@joesamson8666 Please watch the documentaries "dominion" and "earthlings".
Minimizing all suffering is the goal, but raising breeding slaughtering 71 billion
animals is a horror show.
I stopped eating animal products 12 years ago, lost a bunch of weight, kept it off, and am very healthy. No animals have to die to be my food, I am very comfortable morally with that.
actually if we think more globaly that is not 100% true. How many animals had to be killed directly and indirectly to allow crops fields to exist? How many were killed to allow the cobstruction of roads and transport the vegetables, fruits and cereals to our houses? I think being vegan in a western city is always better but mire or less we are always destroying natural resources including animals. Natives used to eat meat and respected a lot more the natural balance than any modern vegan.
@@farmoboy83 Some good points there. Speaking of globally, I note the vast swaths of the Amazon Rain forest being destroyed in order to raise cattle. Perhaps nothing is 100 percent correct, but I'm still good with my vegetables.
Beautiful, u inspire me
@@joannag6992 I find I can eat all the vegetables, fruit, grains I want and am able to keep the weight off and never be hungry. I will never change. Definitely can be done. Best description for the way I eat is Whole Food Plant Based and I avoid processed foods. No reading labels required! Good Luck!
Listening to Dan Shahar reminded me of something I read in The Believing Brain by Michael Shermer:
“A common myth most of us intuitively accept is that there is a negative correlation between intelligence and belief: as intelligence goes up belief in superstition or magic goes down. This, in fact, turns out not to be the case, especially as you move up the IQ spectrum… once people commit to a belief, the smarter they are the better they are at rationalizing those beliefs. Thus: smart people believe weird things because they are skilled at defending beliefs they arrived at for nonsmart reasons.”
Yup. The more you can manipulate words and the other symbols the more you are able to lie to youself and to others.
go vegan, it won't hurt
Uuu that is actualy very interesting. It also can explain why most only have 1 or 2 belives that don't match since 1 exception is easier to justify than a whole mindset. This is coming from a meat eater btw
This, speaks to me on so many levels. It's such an accurate reflection of society and how manipulative people can be at normalizing violence.
Thank you DW for talking thruth. You're one of the best media channels in the world
Agreed. Love DW for very truthful presentations. I turn on DW first everyday
I was transitioning to not eat meat and this has strengthened my resolve, and I will try to not eat dairy and eggs too. Great documentary like everyone said, thank you.
UA-camrs Earthling Ed, Arvind Vegan, Soytheist and others talk about these animal products. My favorite, however, is Ryuji Chua. He's really underrated and his videos are top quality. 🌱
Eat the bugs wear ur mask... Stay in ze pod.
@@libzyfarz4788 Non-vegans eat bugs. Vegans don't eat any animals, including insects. 🌱
Animals eat other animals alive. When they stop so will I
@@ivandansigmun3891 If you model your ethics after wild animals, are you into rape as well?
The Question is, why some feel empathy to animals and others don’t? How can one takes one’s life for pleasure and not feel any guilt?
Yes exactly!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I guess it revolves around egocentrism. It is just more comfortable to shut one's eyes. To not allow the thought that some animals (at least some) deserve empathy is more comfortable.
I do not think there is more logic behind it. Otherwise we would keep those domesticated animals that are closest to us as pets. Those who kept diabetics alive before the synthetic production of insulin. Instead we kill the pigs. And mistreat them.
Morality
That's a very complex question and truly anti human. Animal meat made humans human. Plus more animals are killed and nature is destroyed to grow plant foods. Therfore, it would be less of an impact on animals if we all Become carnivores
@@Viodoxy I won't even mention the environmental issues that you've written about, but rather than sharing your opinion, you should focus on improving your basic writing skills. Do you know anything about biology or how evolution works? There are religious groups that have been vegetarian since the 4th century BC (I imagine this fact might be hard for you to process)
Waiting impatiently for part 2! Excellent documentary as always DW! ❤
Great interviews with two great thinkers at the beginning. The last part of this video was basically appeal to futility fallacy.
Agreed. And that guy had no idea what vegetarianism and veganism are, conflating them constantly. By his logic, as long as others are immoral we're justified to not even attempt to be moral.
His cognitive dissonance was palpable.
@@thebowandbullet The illogical tendencies of evolution? So our brains don't need Omega-3 DHA and EPA? Only fish provide us with enough DHA and EPA. Seaweed concentrate capsules aren't natural. Your brain has to acquire DHA and EPA from your diet. If you feel that eating fish and shrimp is unethical, then you're deluded, in my opinion.
This is a great documentary! Vegan for 22 years now. Best decision I ever made.
Hi, iam 17 yo boy and also I've been a vegetarian for 3 years. You said that you've been vegan for 22 years so I assume that you know how to eat well enough to not have any health issues connected to your diet. That's why I want to ask you for a help. Lately my knees started to hurt more and more frequently. I did some research and the most likely reason for that is that I lack enough collagen. (Well it's not painful enough to go to see a doctor 💀). But iam getting concerned about it. Because of that I've started to drink collagen drinks. My problem is that there wasn't any vegan source of collagen at all. All of them were just extracts of ✨dead animal corpses✨ and I can't see any difference between this and eating meat. I want to know what is your method of getting collagen so that you can still have strong joints and tendons. Thank you ✌️🥰☮️
I was unable to quit smoking since a long time. 6 months ago I stopped consuming meat. It has been 2 months since i smoked my last cigarette. I have never felt so satisfied before. Self control is the key.
So meat made you smoke?
@@Leo-gt1bx I am trying to say that after I quit eating meat, My self control got stronger and it became easier for me to quit smoking. Let me remind you, Smoking is extremely addictive.
Congratulations, but I would humbly add that while self control is VITAL, it is not the only part of the puzzle, particularly in the beginning of stopping a habit or an addiction
Great documentary and kudos to DW for tackling a subject that most news media outlets seem to shy away from
Cured my boredom real quick. I learned some new things. Thank you DW.
Another excellent documentary, DW tackling issues that other networks avoid even mentioning. This topic is going to be one the major moral dilemma of our lives.
Yes indeed. That's why DW is my favourite channel for many years.
The intro is very good, it is what I have always been thinking. The irony , it was interrupted by chicken pizza commercial.
A video on helping animals is funded by a commercial on killing animals
Sadly I don't think the documentary producers have any control over what ads appear on their videos. UA-cam itself is. UA-cam analyses our personal data, and tries to target ads towards us personally. Pretty disgusting.
Fascinating documentary! Exactly one of the reasons I eat mostly vegan, animals are worthy of respect and kindness.
Put them in parliment
@@iovanpaul8935honestly animals would do a better job than trump and Biden
Great job! Amazing documentary. Keep on this way!
Brilliant documentary!!! Eagerly waiting for the next one :D
This is the type of educational content we need more of! :D Thanks for making a well articulated and interesting short look into ethics and meat consumption :)
This thought-provoking exploration challenges us to reconsider our relationship with farm animals. It brings together diverse perspectives, from animal rights advocates to researchers, sparking a crucial conversation about ethics and empathy.
This is an excellent overview of the topic and the possible responses.
well done.. thought provoking enough to stop and think> as it did for me .
100% agree Animal and Land needs rights! And should Not be regarded as property. All living beings Need to have natural law rights
it took me until I was 56 to realize how cruel and unhealthy and wasteful animal agriculture is. Now it seems ridiculous but shouldn't expect other to see things like me when I only got it a few years ago.
I was 56 too last year when I came across veganism from Joey Carbstrong. Now I'm on this issue daily.
Great documentary, I'm waiting the second part
Been vegan for 6 years now. 0 health issues and eating delicious food every day.
Not to mention the pharma pills...
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@@poweredbynato6313 what??
But animals eat other animals
@@Gt92279 do you think lions understand the concepts of morality and Justice? Can they distinguish right from wrong the way we humans do?
They are obligate carnivores and act out of instincts, while we humans have a choice.
And why do you only want to copy one behavior of the carnivores, and not others? Like they kill cubs born of a different male lion, they fight with each other all the time, males kill other male lions to take over prides.
@@atishbong im not sure what lions think but if the whole ecosystem is designed to have population control then we should hunt and eat animals... also we do copy their other traits by starting wars and crime etc...
I'm 50 and I became a vegan at 47 after careful reflection and contemplation. It was the best decision I've ever made and my only regret is that I did it sooner... decades sooner, as my lifestyle had a horrible effect on countless animals. 🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱🌱
I feel bad for you ! 😟
Sure what about all the animals getting killed during the farming process to produce the vegetables in the fields?.. your living in a dream world if u think you are not killing animals with vegetables
@@iii___iii Only fish provide us with enough Omega-3 DHA and EPA. Your brain has to acquire DHA and EPA from your diet. Seaweed does not provide us with enough DHA and EPA. Seaweed extract capsules made in a lab are unnatural. If you have ethical issues with eating fish, then you're simply deluded. Have fun with your unnatural seaweed concentrates. We evolved eating fish. It's a lie to believe otherwise.
@@betterlivinghabits6724 I feel bad for my old selfish self. No need to feel bad for me now. I'm perfectly happy. My food is cheap, my body is healthy, my environmental impact is lessened and best of all, I'm not funding animal abuse. If you feel bad for me, rest assured, there's nothing to worry about!!
@@Shishiku91 I'm pretty ignorant on that, but my first thought would be that the originating cells would hopefully be harvested ethically. Maybe, if it's like yogurt or something it could just be harvested once, and reproduced at a cellular level from that time onwards. I really don't know.
If one is on the fence about changing diet, eliminating meat - Watch Earthlings.
It was exactly what I needed and didn't need to see to tip me over. I say didn't need because it slapped you in the face so hard and took me several sittings to get through.
Well done, DW! Let's hope this will awaken people and get them thinking like some of us have. It's not ok to exploit, torture, force-breed and kill others when this is unnecessary, and the meat industry is one of many animal industries which is entirely unnecessary. The amount of suffering humans cause for 15 min of taste pleasure is completely unjustified.
I'm still an omnivore but I often reflect on the arguments for and against eating meat. It's silly when people just pretend there is no suffering involved in the meat you eat. I think respectful hunting is probably the closest we get to humane as far as eating meat. Factory farms are awful places.
Why would I feel bad for eating shrimp and fish?
Only fish provide us with enough Omega-3 DHA and EPA. Your brain has to acquire DHA and EPA from your diet. Seaweed does not provide us with enough DHA and EPA. Seaweed extract capsules made in a lab are unnatural. If you have ethical issues with eating fish, then you're simply deluded. Have fun with your unnatural seaweed concentrates. We evolved eating fish. It's a lie to believe otherwise.
How can you justify if someone respectfully hurted you
go vegan, it won't hurt
@@aesthetic15912 you can't
@@aesthetic15912 we human are superior than animal. This is fundamental value.
So, respectfully haunted human isn't same as respectfully haunted animal.
Great documentary, will wait for the next part!
I eat meat and doubt that I will ever be a vegetarian, however...There is another point that should be made here: Ethics towards the environment (knowing that meat production requires intensive use of land, water and natural resources in general). Thank you DW for your great docs. Cheers!
DW - Thank you for this honest, well researched and confronting video. Animals are indeed sentient beings. Yet, there are still many people worldwide, who challenge this fact! Especially global animal husbandry practises and the agricultural farming industries. They don't just need to change their archaic, horrendous treatment of animals. They must change their uncaring, unethical mindset. Only then, can positive changes begin to happen. While the farming industry refuses to acknowledge this inconvenient truth, all animals will continue to suffer needlessly. The tragic irony of the story is, animals or 'products' who feed, nourish and keep billions of humans alive everyday, are treated in the most appalling, inhumane way. They have the shortest lives in the animal kingdom. If we're going to consume animals, then we should at the very least, respect them, make their short lives cruelty free and the most comfortable we can! Instead of something from a horror movie that even Stephen King would be scared of! Anyway, cheers from Australia.
go vegan, it won't hurt
Thats nice and all but I still want to be able to afford a hot dog.
@@sirzn You might choke on your hot dog one day....😱😁
@@nicolelillis2077 You might realize you have protein deficiency one day....😱😁
@@sirzn Like I said, I sincerely hope you don't choke...It couldn't happen to a nicer person...
Thank you for putting out the truth 🙏🏼☀️💕
I stopped eating animal protein for over 3 years and doing intermittent fasting and now my taste buds don't like them at all. My health and muscles have improved significantly. I feel stronger than ever before.
Did anyone else notice that when predation is explained, the Succession soundtrack plays? 21:48
This is amazing!!! Great content. 👏🌱💚
Great job guys! Your perspective really makes me think.
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I need to be honest here, and the overall costs with purchasing meat these days has made me rethink my consumption of it, and the ethics behind raising those animals have left me conflicted for years. These days I rarely eat red meat, that's not to say I've eliminated it entirely. I do eat the occasional burger, or sausage, maybe 3-4 times a year. Mostly I eat fish, chicken eggs, and at least once a month I eat chicken or turkey. The fish I catch myself, the turkey I hunt myself, the chicken and eggs I purchase from my local farmer near my home.
I salute you for posing this important question in front of humanity.
Thank you DW very much for the video. The first 1 minute is reasonable enough to make someone think about the topic deeply 👍❤ really appreciate the work, from India ❤
Thanks for watching and for your constructive feedback! :-)
The intro is just spot on.
Thank you DW for presenting the truth most people do not want to see / hear
GREAT WORK I LISTENING EACH & EVERY WORD OF THIS DOCUMENTRY
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Shall wait for the continued part 2…
this is actually part 3, you can find the links to earlier parts in the description under the video
Excellent work DW!!!
Great thought-provoking documentary 👍.
Thanks for watching and for the positive feedback:)
There's chain reaction for a change. I was the first vegetarian in my family at the age of 15, then my aunt became vegetarian, then my father, a brother, a sister, a causin sister, one of my niece and list is coming gradually. Nobody forced them to become but they got inspired and their compassion woke up.
Edit : only through understanding other's suffering, altruism, moral ethic and compassion can bring vegan or vegetarianism into world. 5% do that due to health consciousness.
Most people claim they could never harm an animal, and then they eat one! Always remember your meat was once an animal you never wanted to hurt!
"All breathing, existing, living, sentient creatures should not be slain, nor treated with violence. nor abused, nor tormented, nor driven away." - Mahavira
"A man can live and be healthy without killing animals for food; therefore, if he eats meat, he participates in taking animal life merely for the sake of his appetite. And to act so is immoral." LEO TOLSTOY
"To be non-vegetarian is inhuman. The
non-vegetarian is exactly equal to being a
cannibal. There is no difference, except that
cannibals eat better meat than the
non-vegetarians." Osho
...most people just Eat what's available, or what they work hard to 'harvest'.
The Eskimo in winter transmutes his animals into sustanance, as do animals who eat other animals raw.
Humans can live on spirulina and other protiens, including unborn chickens called eggs.
Still, stop having choices and start getting hungry and what will YouAll eat?
@@timebot000 Eat or not eat meat is not a personal choice, no more than what is a personal choice to beat children, rape women, or hate people of another race or sexuality. Once your "choices" infringe on another person's freedom to suffer, it is no longer your choice. And as we know, the "choice" of eat meat (which, mind you, is never given to children and, in some cases, they are forced to strongly), it affects millions of birds, fish, cows, pigs and other animals every day and in the most cruel ways.
@@timebot000 Are you an Eskimo? Didn't think so. Don't use other people as an excuse not to do the right thing when it's easy for you to do so.
@@timebot000 the eskimos don't live very long. Their life span is around 45 years. The same with the masaais, who often have the lifespan of 40 years. Yes, putting ethics aside, we can eat everything we want, but when your long term health is put on the line, the story is different. Red meat, when being grilled, fried or cooked at too high temperature turns into carcinogens that can cause colon cancer. The W.H.O has numerous studies that showed this and these studies have been turned into hundreds page long book that can be purchased online.
I eat meat too but I am still looking for alternatives and I have decided to look for alternatives no matter what. I only eat wild caught animals though.
Animal lovers make me laugh, stuffing dead ones down their throats every day!
The vast majority of the meat we consume comes from factory farming 99% we all know the physical / emotional ABUSE NIGHTMARE these animals endure on a daily basis even
many small farms have these same problems if you continue to consume you are paying for and supporting this Industry and ensuring this NIGHTMARE will continue/ it's easy to eat a plant based diet as long as you get enough protein You don't have to change overnight start gradually making more plant based meals that you like / one person can easily save the lives of Hundreds of animals from a life of torture and misery
What if you just care more about the safety and well-being of your family and not unknown animals?
The animation is so beautiful! Thank you
Thanks for watching :)
plants also have pain receptors...
pain receptors are connected to the brain which plants don't have
No they don't, and the 6 people liking this comment has 0 understanding of biology. Pain receptors connect to a brain. Plants don't have brains, and they don't have pain receptors either. Only creatures that can MOVE have reason to have emotions, because emotions are functions meant to motivate movement towards sustenance and away from danger. Since plants can't move, they have not developed sentience, feeling or emotions.
And EVEN if plants were feeling, sentient creatures, a vegan diet would be more moral. A vegan diet takes on average 7-10 times less plants. Why? Because the animals you eat need to be fed tons and tons of plants. So if plants could feel, that would be yet another reason to eat vegan.
@@fromeveryting29 keep telling yourself that if it makes you _feel_ better, plant murderer.
@@streetsarecold plants do not have nerve cels or a central nervous system like vertebrates have so they do not feel pain
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Excellent video!
Excellent documentary, although I am already vegetarian and couldn't watch the cruelty scenes. I do eat eggs, which I buy from a friend who raises chickens on her land and doesn't eat them. They live freely, roam over open land and will never know the tyranny of the ax. If you can find eggs free of cruelty, then I think it's okay to eat them. But I can't bear the sorrow of slaughtered flesh. I don't know how anyone can.
Please search for "Dairy is Scary" on UA-cam to learn the truth about that awful industry.
VERY INTERESTING LOVE THIS WORK I TOO ALWAYS STRUGGLING WITH THESE QUESTIONS THAN FOR DEEPENING UNDERSTANDING
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Thank you for making this amazing documentary which is very factual and not hiding anything from the food industry but also considering the intelligence of the animals humans are farming!
Oh gosh, those videos made me go pale 🤢. People need to see this.
No, that last guys argument didn’t quite check out.
Another though provoking documentary from my favourite channel.
I have a lot to re-consider, thank you for this documentary.
Thank you for watching!
@@DWDocumentaryDo you have any resources for connecting with people, or more videos that go further in depth into this topic?
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One of the best things that I’ve done for me is.. stop eating chicken (the ONLY type of meat I used to eat).. I sometimes do feel the urge to eat it but.. I don’t. I won’t.
It’s only some time when I stop eating eggs too.
The Sauce Stache UA-cam channel has great vegan chicken recipes, same with Thee Burger Dude. No need to fight cravings anymore!
Ready for this to get taken off of youtube by a large organization that is a stake holder in the meat industry. That is what I think happened to one of the most eye-opening dw doc., the "neonicotinoids" pesticide documentary. Downloaded this one...
It is so easy to stop eating meat, that it doesn't qualify as an excuse.
The hard part for many is the fact you'd have to build yourself an armoury of new dishes to prepare and I guarantee you; Enjoyment of food will not be compromised.
To me, the experiment blowing air at the pig didn’t necessarily prove boredom. Because the human knows they’ll get the electric shock if they choose. Whereas the pig doesn’t know they’ll always have the air blow. They might be just experimenting to see if they get something different ie. food, drink.
Excellent
Really makes the viewer think 👍👍👍
Great video❤
Socrates fight to bring us, a society where we can analyze and build something better for all of us. Unfortunately, sophism continues to win this battle. The documentary was excellent and obvious to me the first minutes explain all. I suggest everyone who cares about animals reflect in truth. Who you are? Looks like simple questions, but if your pursuit the truth to answer, and analyze the words that you choose to explain, you will see that can be deeper, and not superficial as a sophist society teach you to be.
I am from jain religion. This is the same concept our religion is based upon. The discussion that is happening in western side now was done way back in Jainism.
Jainism is another extremist religion regarding being naked and not killing the bacteria etc.
@@aesthetic15912 well may be you didn’t understand my statement
It still is based upon non violence concept
Now it’s a different matter if it takes it too far but again there are branches which follow it differently with keeping non violence as core
true, and thank you
I am glad the series is not over. This film ends on the matter of 'taste' - and this is so huge a point that surely the next program will be looking at 'alternative proteins' - the growing investment into the development of lab-grown meat, harming no animal at all. I envisage a world where there are two markets for meat - one which grants animals an outdoor life, as close to their natural beings as possible, for as long as possible, and a very humane slaughter process. That meat will cost its true price. It will not be cheap. And the other market will be lab-grown meat which tastes as near as damn it as good as natural meat but is much cheaper. It will not be the same as what I call 'humane meat' - the real thing - but it will be very acceptable for many of us to have that special taste which a vegetarian diet just cannot provide. It's great to be able to mix meat and veg!
Wow. I love eating meat, but this has opened my eyes quite a bit. I look forward to the next part of this documentary
Another wonderful documentary coverage video was shared by an excellent (DW )documentary channel... video encouraging humanity to leave meats 🍖 eating due to the maximum rate of humanity kindness measured...exaggeration emotional thinking.....delicate & super emotional members are thinking about domesticated animals live rights equivalent to human rights... while we are living on the planet, there are more than 3000 atomic heads & 40 countries continue producing more atomic weapons. This video raised several questions in mind's to ward's different directions....thanks... encouraging vegetarians behaving
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts.
we can be kind if we want to, go vegan, it feels much better
Thanks for sharing
For some reason nobody has issues with pork Consumption.
I know people who care about animals are even concerned about pigs. But most people focus only on cows and buffaloes that's it
just go vegan, stop all the nonsense
first few seconds were Just WOWWWW🤩🤩🤩 !!!
I want to translate your documentaries in urdu, would you permit?
Any animal that has lungs and large intestine experiences loss, grief, and sadness. Any animal that has kidneys and bladder experiences fear. Any animal that has stomach and spleen experiences worry and anxiety. Any animal that has liver and gall bladder experiences anger. Any animal that has a heart has the potential to experience love.
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I have raised livestock for decades, I favor livestock welfare improvements. Realistically, livestock do not have the option for a long, comfortable life in the wild. Their life in the wild will be shorter and more brutal than life on the farm. Given a choice between a reasonably comfortable life on a farm and non-existence, most life forms will prefer life. I believe meat consumption is as ethical as our farming and slaughtering practices.
Interesting story
So good
At 25:42 plants don't feel... Risky assumption, seems so much in need of understanding and knowing about things to me...
you have all wrong we are separated at a young age from home sent to school where we learn to run a treadmill for 40-50 yrs and milked for what we earn then discarded when old
The introduction reminds me of Goerge Owel's Animal Farm.
Meat: people are free to eat as much - or as little of it - as they want. I'm a vegetarian. I have lots of friends who aren't. We've never gotten into a fistfight over steaks vs. tofu. 😐
Looking at current obesity rates and how a lot of jobs are, we're definitely being fattened up and shipped to factories. For the same reasons animals are, because it's profitable. I'm all for eating meat by the way, this was eye opening and I appreciate the new perspective this series has given me. We don't always have to choose between 2 extremes, there's a middle ground. It's possible to farm responsibility and ethically but gross over consumption and our new age god, "the economy" will not allow this.
The carnists will cry a lot without even watching the doc. Hahahahaha
What is a carnist?
@@whitemailprivilege2830 conservatives who defend meat consumption
@@sheridan1887 Guess you didn't watch the video. Who looks silly now?
@@whitemailprivilege2830 Google, baetch...
@@sheridan1887 Are you stůpiđ??? Plants don't feel pain.
What if the tomato and onion think about the same when we try to eat them.. I am vegetarian but some how the logic does not fit together. So are we grouping what does not have nervous system does not have emotion like the way we use to and therefore it is okay to eat those because we do not understand their system
I literally blown up what i was hearing in the first one minute 😳
I have always said that I have absolutely no problem with paying a little extra for the humane treatment of food source, but I also have absolutely no interest in becoming a vegetarian. Great doc 👍
Why not?
@@dittmannrudolfrohr2149 Because he likes meat and does not find it it immoral to eat most likely.
BUT, wait!!!
What do plants feel?
No doubt this really relevant topic will be discussed more and more as we advance towards the future... Most (morally healthy) people feel disturbed when they see or hear an animal suffering: we were designed to feel empathy with other sentient beings. So many things have to change in this world... Our perception of what's right or wrong will keep shifting (AI will surely help) as we evolve. Dan Shahar doesn't take into account the most serious problem that humanity faces today (global warming). What's more important than sentient beings and our planet?... Interesting video.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Please see 4:04 thru 4:54 Animals that have THESE capacities and Humans who lack these capacities
When the animals are treated better, the better the quality. Isn't that a win win?
go vegan stop the madness
I just started eating only meat and drinking only water 10 days ago. Never felt better. We have a carnivore digestive system and almost all plants are toxic in some way with wheat and soy being two of the worst.
*"As long as there are slaughter houses there will always be battlefields."*
-*Leo Tolstoy*
Beef, chicken, pork, goat, duck and fish. Even if those animals seem cute and sentient, I am quite happy and satisfied to consume them.
Very nice documentary. However while I understand the argument of sentience and believe it to a certain degree there are a range of animals that eat living things. Are predators unethical? Or onminvores? Why is being herbivores a none compromising requirement for humans and not for other “sentient” beings?
Well argued what about the herbivores aren't plant living things
@@catherinewambui5771 I agree I think plants are living things but the documentary specifically excludes them. It rationalizes that plants are not sentient at all. Which I do have arguments against but I won’t make those here.
Had you evolve to eat animals you’d be able to grab them with you teeth and be able to tear the fur and skin with them (like true predators do) and eat them raw - which you won’t - it’s quite easy and simple. So no, NATURAL predators are not unethical.
@@remi_gio actually there is a lot of evidence to suggest that cooking animals came long after eating them. So yes they were eaten raw for a very long time. Evidence almost suggests that this was the largest contributor to brain grown. Further more your teeth are not herbivores they actually fit neatly in line with the tooth structure of other omnivores. Especially the mammalian ones such as bears. Also we digest meat very well which leads to another idea that it is a natural adaptation and not a ideological one. These are all scientific viewpoints. Which sort of shocks me with the vegan crowd because it proves to me that they are being ideological instead of scientific. Anything which requires one to ignore facts to support a viewpoint is bordering on a dogma and therefore I can’t agree to it. Let’s not forget that most vegans also have to take supplements because they are deficient in a myriad of vitamins and minerals which their omnivore counterparts tend not to be. Were our ancestors in caves eating supplements?
@@angelmujahid2233 😂😂😂 really dude? We are omnivores only because we cook. We evolved from apes… are apes meat eating? Nope. Don’t make me laugh. What is this nonsense about taking supplements? An urban myth that has no evidence in science. May I suggest looking into …wait for it… a whole of India where most people are vegetarian… 🤦🏻♂️
Have you ever felt fear of death? It's worse than pain. But pain itself can cause fear of death.
How about the ethics of plant consumption.
thanks for raising awareness. liked the video. hope factory farming is banned. animals deserve freedom and respect
I LOVE that DW made this video!! Understanding sentience (the fact that animals feel) is the video takeaway. And if you want to live by what you preach, being vegan is the only logical and ethical lifestyle to live. History will prove that. Unfortunately not everyone is strong enough to do the right thing until a celebrity or authority figure makes the decision for you.
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Stop wearing clothes
@@aaronsteven8961 Q... your.self
Unless you don't mind the results and love steak
100% agreed