Thanks! Its using a surveil package with 3 Thoughtbound Phantasm, 4 Tempest Dijins, and 3 Dream Eaters as finishers. I even use 2 Quasiduplicate in the main just to outvalue the opponent's removal
Okay here it is... 4 Opt 3 Thoughtbound Phantasm 2 Blink of an Eye 4 Essence Scatter 4 Mission Briefing 2 Quasiduplicate 4 Tempest Djinn 4 Chemister's Insight 3 Dream Eater 3 Syncopate 23 Island Sideboard is a weird experiment atm, but its... 4 Negate 4 Drowned Secrets 4 Psychic Corrosion 3 Deep Freeze My theory here is that my worst matchup is against other control decks, and if I turn into mill I have a better change of winning that way rather than control.
venerated loxodon let you milti spell in a turn. verderous gearhulk didn't let you do that. I think that and the aditional boost of power make them equal in power level.
That is definitely a great point too. Both cards have attributes that make them better in certain situations compared to the other, but both are certainly powerful cards nonetheless!
@@AlbyMTG Now that I think more about it. It's faster and more efficient, but it's not a good treat on it's own and it let you less choise. I can see that making it awfull against control deck, because after à bord wipe it's 5 mana 4/4.
@@AlbyMTG because if you play it on turn 3 on the draw.( quickest you can play it) you can only attack once before be board wipe. I'd say on the play playing it on turn 3 missing 3 to 5 damage but adding 6 to 7 power To the board and attack the two next turn would be wort it. But on the draw. I don't think it would be wort it. And in this analyse I don't take in considération settle the wrekage or the new R/W bord wipe. If their a jeskai control deck that apear .
I totally agree. This is likely one of the cards that you sideboard out against the control matchups. Sideboarding them out does open slots though for you to bring in cards that are good against control like Lyra, March of the Multitudes, and other ways to end the game quickly or instant speed threats.
Explosion does both, not just a win through damage, it keeps you alive and I mean forever!! Deal X damage to any target, and then you get to pick up that many cards, also run Revitalize for health against fast and wide decks!!
I'm interested to see how Jeskai Control evolves...I'm not super interested in playing the first couple weeks of standard because I don't want to guess what meta I should be countering before that meta's started to solidify
As a control player (now shifted to Grixis Midrange) I would suggest that Justice Strike is one of your best tools. Card kills everything really except for Brontodon. Other than that meta choices aren't super cryptic. The meta is more midrangey so I would suggest running more counterspells than previously. Due to more midrangey matchups you should also run a couple non-teferi wincons or Devious Cover Up. If you desire to play the first couple weeks I can assure you most of it will be midrange or aggro-midrange like boros mentor.
I’m interested to see it evolve as well. I think the big change that we’ll see it more counterspells over removal spells since the list that I showcased here had so many removal spells.
@@xed8530 that card is lackluster against boros aggro. Seal away also lackluster against Boris aggro. Honestly jeskai in a bad spot because most of their lands have red in it and you can't consistently get double blue turn 3. I think it's wise to just use ionized over sabotage completely and run negates and scatters mainboard. You'll have better success with that.
@@Radric33 Boros aggro is in a bad spot currently. It simply isn't fast enough. The mana is amazing double blue on T3 is relatively easy while not always achieveable. Even if we go with the theory that Boros aggro is amazing the other midrange decks do exist which jeskai beats. (Cept for grixis which is in a great spot) Aggro dominates the beginning of the season always even if if ends up being garbage later on. Boros aggro isn't fast enough nor able to outvalue control. Making board wipes such as nova amazing. This doesn't even include settle. Foundry+Vents and checks are fully able to support the mana base.
Nope! You Convoke is different from something like Improvise from Kaladesh block. Convoke allows you to tap a creature of that color to tap for that color of mana and any creature to pay for the generic mana.
You seem to be reading the card wrong though. You put a counter on each creture that convoked it. i.e. up to five creatures get +1/1 each, the loxodon is always a 4/4... Not a very good card i.m.o.
@@MrTandtrollet you are rating it wrong, it's not just a 4/4. It's "put 9/9 into play across 6 bodies for tapping 5 dudes". Maybe it'll turn out to be too slow for the format, but the card is very strong as a standalone card. It's actually better that it doesn't put 5 counters on itself, it'd be pretty unplayable like that.
I agree with Netaron's reasoning here. That sounds accurate to me. River Sneak is probably competing with the spot that Nightveil Sprite just took, so it's the deckbuilder's preference on whether they prefer the Surveil ability from the Sprite more or less than the occasional extra point of damage that you could sometimes get with River Sneak.
Thank you so much for subscribing! I really appreciate it and hopefully you'll enjoy more of the content I put out in the future! If I had to pick just one, I'd probably go with the Mono Red list. It has the speed to take game one against the control decks, it has chainwhirler to help against the tokens matchup, and Experimental Frenzy is a crazy card that can even sometimes allow the red decks to have access to so many additional cards that it can even steal game 1 from the midrange decks. Hope this was helpful!
Monored Aggro all the way, you can severely punish very fast, and everything does direct damage and costs nothing to play, Chainwhirler and Rekindling are absolute monsters!!
i play root snare. not having cycling hurts turbo fog. so i play slightly fog lol, its blue white control, splash for root snare , gift of of paradise, Side board in carnage tyrant.and march of the multitudes. MotM is so good in game 2 vs control. in control mirrors, ive searched for 6 lands at once because my opponent tapped out on my turn which made MotM cast for 9... then forced him to use settle. i deck is sweet vs all aggro decks. in the control mirrors game 1 is a lost, but side board out snares add in negates, carnage tyrant, MotM, nezahal. so far 1st, 2nd, 1st, 3rd, 1st at fnm grind.
Yeah. Wedge got his list by looking at the same data that I looked at. Wedge didn't come up with the decklist, he just showed his audience the decklist. I do the same thing for this series, but I just like to make it clear that I'm not the one who comes up with the decklists for this series of videos and I like to give credit to the players who actually came up with the decklists.
Oh yeah definitely not hating i was just curious which came first ya know ? Enjoy the content though, nice to know what week 1 meta will be beforehand. Keep it up !
there is no way Steam Kin can be a 2 mana 5/5. biggest it can get is 4/4 then on chapter 3 of Flame of Keld it can hit for 6 damage but it is never a 5/5 unless I'm missing something
Correct. I misspoke. It's a 1/1 that can have 3 +1/+1 counters placed on it for a total of being a 4/4. I don't know why I said 5/5, but I appreciate the correction to clear things other up for other viewers as well. Thank you!
its cool, I wasn't trying to catch you out, keep up the content, its an exiting time in MTG, I see these new Ravnica sets having a huge metagame impact in Standard and Modern :D
I'm certain it's a fluke. The meta is really new and people are trying out weird brews that ANY aggro beats. Once the meta becomes more serious mono red won't be able to keep up due to the immense loss of tools. I think if you want to do aggro Boros may be the way to go instead and that isn't as fast as mono red was.
Running the knights list is pretty fun (WBG) but I keep losing from having a hand with 2 lands and never drawing any morefor the entire game xD. Also it is impossible to beat the bullshit tefani decks unless you make a deck SPECIFICALLY to beat it, sooner he rotates out the better.
That makes sense. It's hard to win with just 2 lands, especially against control! I haven't had a chance to test it out yet, but I plan on playing at least a few matches with it later on.
It's waaaaaay to early to start analyzing this stuff. This isn't a Grand Prix, ultra competitive or professional play. As with all rotation there will be sleeper decks. I do think that 3 decks will certainly see play from the past due to their success (UW Control, Stompy, and Grixis Midrange) but I think trying to make a meta this early is holding people back from brewing the tier 1 decks.
That's fair. I just like showing potential decks to people for the upcoming standard season. Viewers can get an idea for what they might see when playing on MTGO or Arena or they can find a deck that they really like and want to try out themselves.
Maybe it's a setting in your UA-cam account. When I go to your videos it defaults to 480p. You may want to check your UA-cam settings or do some Google searches about the video quality. I was able to change your video to 1080 so HD is available.
@@AlbyMTG The Jeskai Control is built to deal with these wide decks in this video, now control is on the top of the boards! But so is monored and Boros Angels!
That's totally understandable. Most of my videos do tend to go a bit longer than most other UA-camrs since I don't script my videos and I try to pack in as much information as I can.
I'm assuming I called him Ral Zarek in the video? Ral is his first name and Zarek is his last name. It still means the same person, but I'm just used to saying Ral with his last name as well.
I like your winning deck series best. Another great video!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it! This series is where most people know me from.
Excellent incite. Great video my man
hehe, puns are fun. (assume you are talking about the new card incite)
Thank you Robert! I appreciate it!
I went 5-1 in competitive constructed on Arena with mono-blue control!
Nice work!
Thanks! Its using a surveil package with 3 Thoughtbound Phantasm, 4 Tempest Dijins, and 3 Dream Eaters as finishers. I even use 2 Quasiduplicate in the main just to outvalue the opponent's removal
Kimi Shimmi list?
Okay here it is...
4 Opt
3 Thoughtbound Phantasm
2 Blink of an Eye
4 Essence Scatter
4 Mission Briefing
2 Quasiduplicate
4 Tempest Djinn
4 Chemister's Insight
3 Dream Eater
3 Syncopate
23 Island
Sideboard is a weird experiment atm, but its...
4 Negate
4 Drowned Secrets
4 Psychic Corrosion
3 Deep Freeze
My theory here is that my worst matchup is against other control decks, and if I turn into mill I have a better change of winning that way rather than control.
Just went 5-0 again this evening. Dream Eater is such a game ender its ridiculous. It won't stay as a cheap card for long I guerntee it
venerated loxodon let you milti spell in a turn. verderous gearhulk didn't let you do that. I think that and the aditional boost of power make them equal in power level.
That is definitely a great point too. Both cards have attributes that make them better in certain situations compared to the other, but both are certainly powerful cards nonetheless!
@@AlbyMTG Now that I think more about it. It's faster and more efficient, but it's not a good treat on it's own and it let you less choise. I can see that making it awfull against control deck, because after à bord wipe it's 5 mana 4/4.
@@AlbyMTG because if you play it on turn 3 on the draw.( quickest you can play it) you can only attack once before be board wipe. I'd say on the play playing it on turn 3 missing 3 to 5 damage but adding 6 to 7 power To the board and attack the two next turn would be wort it. But on the draw. I don't think it would be wort it. And in this analyse I don't take in considération settle the wrekage or the new R/W bord wipe. If their a jeskai control deck that apear .
I totally agree. This is likely one of the cards that you sideboard out against the control matchups. Sideboarding them out does open slots though for you to bring in cards that are good against control like Lyra, March of the Multitudes, and other ways to end the game quickly or instant speed threats.
Explosion does both, not just a win through damage, it keeps you alive and I mean forever!! Deal X damage to any target, and then you get to pick up that many cards, also run Revitalize for health against fast and wide decks!!
I totally agree. Expansion//Explosion has been one of those cards that feels like it over performs every single time!
I'm interested to see how Jeskai Control evolves...I'm not super interested in playing the first couple weeks of standard because I don't want to guess what meta I should be countering before that meta's started to solidify
As a control player (now shifted to Grixis Midrange) I would suggest that Justice Strike is one of your best tools. Card kills everything really except for Brontodon. Other than that meta choices aren't super cryptic. The meta is more midrangey so I would suggest running more counterspells than previously. Due to more midrangey matchups you should also run a couple non-teferi wincons or Devious Cover Up. If you desire to play the first couple weeks I can assure you most of it will be midrange or aggro-midrange like boros mentor.
I’m interested to see it evolve as well. I think the big change that we’ll see it more counterspells over removal spells since the list that I showcased here had so many removal spells.
@@xed8530 that card is lackluster against boros aggro. Seal away also lackluster against Boris aggro. Honestly jeskai in a bad spot because most of their lands have red in it and you can't consistently get double blue turn 3. I think it's wise to just use ionized over sabotage completely and run negates and scatters mainboard. You'll have better success with that.
@@Radric33 Boros aggro is in a bad spot currently. It simply isn't fast enough. The mana is amazing double blue on T3 is relatively easy while not always achieveable. Even if we go with the theory that Boros aggro is amazing the other midrange decks do exist which jeskai beats. (Cept for grixis which is in a great spot) Aggro dominates the beginning of the season always even if if ends up being garbage later on. Boros aggro isn't fast enough nor able to outvalue control. Making board wipes such as nova amazing. This doesn't even include settle. Foundry+Vents and checks are fully able to support the mana base.
6:50 the elephant can't convoke for five? You need to pay one white I thought since convoke counts for colourless
Nope! You Convoke is different from something like Improvise from Kaladesh block. Convoke allows you to tap a creature of that color to tap for that color of mana and any creature to pay for the generic mana.
@@AlbyMTG oh you're right! I totally didn't read the last line of the convoke description.
You seem to be reading the card wrong though. You put a counter on each creture that convoked it. i.e. up to five creatures get +1/1 each, the loxodon is always a 4/4... Not a very good card i.m.o.
@@MrTandtrollet you are rating it wrong, it's not just a 4/4. It's "put 9/9 into play across 6 bodies for tapping 5 dudes". Maybe it'll turn out to be too slow for the format, but the card is very strong as a standalone card. It's actually better that it doesn't put 5 counters on itself, it'd be pretty unplayable like that.
Ty for this Alb!
And thank you for watching!
Love the content.
Awesome video and insight to the meta a sub from me keep up the good work sir.
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I hope you'll enjoy the other content that I make!
Love your vids @albymtg and yes, one of the best ways fort players to get good info on the upcoming meta. #SHARED
Thank you so much Michael! I always appreciate your support and I'm glad you enjoy the series as well!
in the mono blue, why wouldn't you just use river sneak in place of slither blade?
mana cost, you can't play curious obsession turn 2 and it is still a 1/1
I agree with Netaron's reasoning here. That sounds accurate to me. River Sneak is probably competing with the spot that Nightveil Sprite just took, so it's the deckbuilder's preference on whether they prefer the Surveil ability from the Sprite more or less than the occasional extra point of damage that you could sometimes get with River Sneak.
New subscriber here :) which of these decks has the strongest game one and why?
Thank you so much for subscribing! I really appreciate it and hopefully you'll enjoy more of the content I put out in the future! If I had to pick just one, I'd probably go with the Mono Red list. It has the speed to take game one against the control decks, it has chainwhirler to help against the tokens matchup, and Experimental Frenzy is a crazy card that can even sometimes allow the red decks to have access to so many additional cards that it can even steal game 1 from the midrange decks. Hope this was helpful!
Monored Aggro all the way, you can severely punish very fast, and everything does direct damage and costs nothing to play, Chainwhirler and Rekindling are absolute monsters!!
I play slightly-turbo fog. Great deck, preys on boros and goblins on game 2 and 3. Golgari is a joke vs fog. Jeskai control is an ez win game 2 and 3.
Sounds sweet! Are you playing a different fog in replace of Haze of Pollen since it rotated out? If so, which one?
i play root snare. not having cycling hurts turbo fog. so i play slightly fog lol, its blue white control, splash for root snare , gift of of paradise, Side board in carnage tyrant.and march of the multitudes. MotM is so good in game 2 vs control.
in control mirrors, ive searched for 6 lands at once because my opponent tapped out on my turn which made MotM cast for 9... then forced him to use settle. i
deck is sweet vs all aggro decks. in the control mirrors game 1 is a lost, but side board out snares add in negates, carnage tyrant, MotM, nezahal.
so far 1st, 2nd, 1st, 3rd, 1st at fnm grind.
That mono blue tempo deck is card for card the mana sources list.
Yeah. Wedge got his list by looking at the same data that I looked at. Wedge didn't come up with the decklist, he just showed his audience the decklist. I do the same thing for this series, but I just like to make it clear that I'm not the one who comes up with the decklists for this series of videos and I like to give credit to the players who actually came up with the decklists.
@@AlbyMTG really appreciate your approach, and your videos, man! Keep up the good work 👍🏽😎
Thank you Marco! I appreciate the kind words!
Oh yeah definitely not hating i was just curious which came first ya know ? Enjoy the content though, nice to know what week 1 meta will be beforehand. Keep it up !
there is no way Steam Kin can be a 2 mana 5/5. biggest it can get is 4/4 then on chapter 3 of Flame of Keld it can hit for 6 damage but it is never a 5/5 unless I'm missing something
Correct. I misspoke. It's a 1/1 that can have 3 +1/+1 counters placed on it for a total of being a 4/4. I don't know why I said 5/5, but I appreciate the correction to clear things other up for other viewers as well. Thank you!
its cool, I wasn't trying to catch you out, keep up the content, its an exiting time in MTG, I see these new Ravnica sets having a huge metagame impact in Standard and Modern :D
Surprised there isn’t a Sultai deck
There probably will be after a few more days of data is released. Sultai has a lot of great tools right now.
Please provide links to decklists
I tend not to do this for these videos because it disincentives people from actually watching the video itself.
Mono red still strong 💪 which I know it would be
Chainwhirler's reign isn't over quite yet!
i really hope it wasn't a fluke and that mono red will continue to thrive post rotation.
I'm certain it's a fluke. The meta is really new and people are trying out weird brews that ANY aggro beats. Once the meta becomes more serious mono red won't be able to keep up due to the immense loss of tools. I think if you want to do aggro Boros may be the way to go instead and that isn't as fast as mono red was.
Can we get links to the decks? Please??
I generally don't do decklist links for these videos because it disincentives people from actually watching the video.
Running the knights list is pretty fun (WBG) but I keep losing from having a hand with 2 lands and never drawing any morefor the entire game xD. Also it is impossible to beat the bullshit tefani decks unless you make a deck SPECIFICALLY to beat it, sooner he rotates out the better.
That makes sense. It's hard to win with just 2 lands, especially against control! I haven't had a chance to test it out yet, but I plan on playing at least a few matches with it later on.
It's waaaaaay to early to start analyzing this stuff. This isn't a Grand Prix, ultra competitive or professional play. As with all rotation there will be sleeper decks. I do think that 3 decks will certainly see play from the past due to their success (UW Control, Stompy, and Grixis Midrange) but I think trying to make a meta this early is holding people back from brewing the tier 1 decks.
That's fair. I just like showing potential decks to people for the upcoming standard season. Viewers can get an idea for what they might see when playing on MTGO or Arena or they can find a deck that they really like and want to try out themselves.
Why is it blurry
It shouldn't be blurry. It should be available in 1080p.
Maybe it's a setting in your UA-cam account. When I go to your videos it defaults to 480p. You may want to check your UA-cam settings or do some Google searches about the video quality. I was able to change your video to 1080 so HD is available.
I know it's only week one and everything is really unrefined, but is it just me who thinks most of these decks looks kinda bad?
That usually happens with week 1 decks. It's usually closer to week 3 or 4 when we start getting the more tested and refined decklists.
@@AlbyMTG The Jeskai Control is built to deal with these wide decks in this video, now control is on the top of the boards! But so is monored and Boros Angels!
I watch your videos at 1.5x speed...
That's totally understandable. Most of my videos do tend to go a bit longer than most other UA-camrs since I don't script my videos and I try to pack in as much information as I can.
Ral's name is just Ral. thats it
I'm assuming I called him Ral Zarek in the video? Ral is his first name and Zarek is his last name. It still means the same person, but I'm just used to saying Ral with his last name as well.